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Speed vs. Size
#1
You can't replace ealier of these two and if you were a coach would you rather have a skills player with great speed, or a guy who has the same skills thats bigger and slower?
#2
As skill posistion of speed vs. size only, I will take the bigger guy with the same skills. I'll lose a step if the guy is taller and bigger and can break tackles and go up for a jump ball.
#3
Most definately size. The smaller faster guy can't always bust through the big D-line where as the larger stronger guy usally can. Bigger guys are more apt to get more first downs while the smaller guy will be the one to break open the big play.
#4
you can't really survive without alil of both in your line up but.. two words ladamian tomilison.. i think thats how you spell it #21 for the chargers he small and is makin some teams look stupid
#5
As far as skill positions go you can make a small, fast rb-wr-qb a lot stronger way before you can make a big rb-wr-qb faster. In most cases you can get a little more out of each athlete speed wise but you cant coach pure speed.
#6
RUNtheBALL Wrote:As far as skill positions go you can make a small, fast rb-wr-qb a lot stronger way before you can make a big rb-wr-qb faster. In most cases you can get a little more out of each athlete speed wise but you cant coach pure speed.

i beg to differ. coaching speed requires more dedication on the part of the player, but speed is trainable. i've seen players first hand go from 5.0+ 40 times to 4.6 or less. teaching speed is a combination of a few things.
First off hip fleixibility. You would think that technique would come first, but without eing flexible good form isn't really possible.
From there with a good work ethic and dedication to starts and form, speed is extremely coachable.Confusederved:
#7
speed kills, you cant tackle what you cant catch
#8
To answer this question refer back to the Class 2A State Finals in 2001, Bardstown vs. Prestonsburg. Prestonsburg may ahve been one of the strongest and most physical teams in the state that season and look what Bardstown did to them.
#9
Speaking of Big..Who is that kid for Belfry i see standing on the sidelines??
#10
Dont Take It Away! Wrote:You can't replace ealier of these two and if you were a coach would you rather have a skills player with great speed, or a guy who has the same skills thats bigger and slower?
well im gonna go with size donttakeitaway....think about this........take a mack truck and a ferrari and drive them head on with each other and see what happens!!!!
#11
I'll take someone in between.
#12
actually the best thing is to have a running back of each kind...just ask Coach MItchell of Lynn Camp.
#13
LCwildcatJR Wrote:well im gonna go with size donttakeitaway....think about this........take a mack truck and a ferrari and drive them head on with each other and see what happens!!!!

thats only if the ferrari lets the mack truck hit it........prime example....USC, they have as small an offensive line in ncaa football but they have freaky team speed and last time i checked been quite a while since anyone beat them.
#14
well in football youre gonna get hit as some point....just hate to be that ferrari!!!!!
lol....speed is very important but u need size to run between the tackles and pound it up the middle on a defense.....then the speed to go to the outside...like i said once before its good to have a little of both in your backfield!!!!
#15
LCwildcatJR Wrote:well im gonna go with size donttakeitaway....think about this........take a mack truck and a ferrari and drive them head on with each other and see what happens!!!!

true but if they don't hit each other head on then the ferarri is better cuz theres no way the mack truck can catch it...

personally i like speed better...

but then for a perfect football team you should have a good combination of both
#16
That is true but they are both wrecked...
#17
Lynn Camp is sittin pretty good on this topic. They have a big line and about 4 really fast backs, along with alot of other speed in skill positions.
#18
I'll take speed. Speed backs can get thru a small hole. A big, slower back has to make his own hole.


But, if you have an incredible line, it won't make much of a difference anyway.
#19
LCwildcatJR Wrote:well im gonna go with size donttakeitaway....think about this........take a mack truck and a ferrari and drive them head on with each other and see what happens!!!!

But think about what would happen if you put them side by side......Confusedhh: :flame:
#20
I think it really depends on ur offense i think you defenatley have to have the big fattys running it between the tackles. But you got to have that quick little dude getting outside. College wise im gonna go with size because players are made not born.:thumb:
#21
I didnt say speed wasnt coachable. And yes, players through use of good form can get faster, in a 40 yrd dash. But being fast is more than running a 40. Lateral movement is extremly important as well, and you cant put a stop watch on that. Most good skill position players are born with the ability to move well through traffic. Try to teach a fat girl to hit C gap and then get on the edge and see how coachable that is
#22
RUNtheBALL Wrote:I didnt say speed wasnt coachable. And yes, players through use of good form can get faster, in a 40 yrd dash. But being fast is more than running a 40. Lateral movement is extremly important as well, and you cant put a stop watch on that. Most good skill position players are born with the ability to move well through traffic. Try to teach a fat girl to hit C gap and then get on the edge and see how coachable that is

horizontal movement, lateral movement all stems from the same place. as far as the comparison of a fat girl, that's an assinine anology by any and all means, but if we were to take a kid who had very little athletitc ability, i gaurentee that he if he were on a high quality program, he could be made all district, expecially if he were a dedicated student of the game. i'll anull that, because that just leads into another discussion. But a kid with a very slight knack for ball movement (on defense) can be trained into be a good linebacker. If a kid decides that he is going to do whatever it takes to be an unstoppable force and becomes relentless in reaching this goal, even if it is a chubby girl, then its perfectly feasable. I've seen it and coached it first hand. Granted, the player wasn't a girl, but **** was he girly.
#23
I'll take Size anyday...i've seen a RB that was slow but strong runner rack up more yards than a speedy guy in a game because you can do things too stop speed set up a defense but you cant stop what you cant tackle...JR#26:HitWall:
#24
DangerousA, granted every player can work to get faster, deciede to be a student of the game, become a better player, want to be an unstopable force blah blah blah... but MY opinion to the question asked by Dont Take it Away, Ill take speed. Pure, Natural SPEED. My apologies on the the big girl analogy.
#25
with a good o line i'll take speed and a good burst through the hole (having speed doesn't mean you hit the hole hard) and that can get to the edge .

but with a bad o line or young and inexperienced i would take a big baCK because he can create more with less blocking do to his size
#26
Speed gets more yards. imo
#27
Dont Take It Away! Wrote:Speed gets more yards. imo


A speed back is only as good as his line lets him be, and usually goes down easier. A power back can usually do a little more on his own because he has the ability of breaking tackles. So i would choose the powerback. TongueirateSho
#28
It depends on the offense, honestly. Sometimes teams DO get lucky, IE lynn camp and somehow, out of a school of 300 people get a power back, a speed back, a COMBO, and a fat @$$ fullback/tightend.
#29
I was the greatest Wrote:with a good o line i'll take speed and a good burst through the hole (having speed doesn't mean you hit the hole hard) and that can get to the edge .


but with a bad o line or young and inexperienced i would take a big baCK because he can create more with less blocking do to his size


I concur with your post, you seem to know what you are talking about.
#30
[B]Man it's pretty much an equal deal here. The size makes the wholes, but you have to have a speed running back to get the yards. But it all boils down to in a nut shell the size. Just because you can have a powerful running back like Josh Reynolds to get yards or you can get a speed back like Jimmy Chaffin to get up feild, but if you don't have a strong line like James Neice, Bret Barrett,Brain Slusher, Rick May, Anthony Walters, to get the push up front, Buddy you just won't get any yards.

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