[Jen]

he has sinus cavity damage and may need to have it repaired. The medical bills will be large. Also a possible fractured cheekbone. Otherwise he is feeling fine. He may sidelined for awile. Kenton is from another school than I but he is one of the finest young men to ever come from this area. I am so sorry that a classy young man like Kenton has to go through this.

Thanks! For the update. I wish him well.

[courtdog]

I hope Estill and Lee gets to play two more times would that not be great.

[JOBAKKA]

That would be the coolest

[courtdog]

I hope Estill and Lee gets two play each other two more times this year would that not be great.

[courtdog]

there two teams leaves ever thing on the floor when they play both teams play hard and wants to win but after the game they are great friends you always see a great game and great sportmanship when they play.

[MonsterMan]

:argue: If Crowe was the only that retaliated then he would have been the only one ejected by the officials. You need to take your blue colored glasses off. Estill would definately do some good by taping your games. Your opinions don't mean anything without the proper documentation to back it up. Estill County did leave their bench and their coaching staff did not do anything more than the JC coaching staff to stop the problem. In fact, didn't the coach of Estill County argue with a fan of Johnson Central to the point that he had to be restrained. Let me answer that for you, he did.

Good post! My thoughts and prayers are with the Estill kid to have a speedy recovery!

This was a poorly officated game that was just plain dirty and got out of control, both sides are guilty. The game tape that was submitted will tell the whole story, before, during and after the incident and not just pieces that an EC or JC fan saw or remembered.

I say disipline the 4 players who were ejected eqaully and let's move on.

[JOBAKKA]

there two teams leaves ever thing on the floor when they play both teams play hard and wants to win but after the game they are great friends you always see a great game and great sportmanship when they play.

I call it a mutual respect. We know how hard you all work, we work hard also for success and you can respect others who have the commitment Estill has.

[courtdog]

No you are wrong and you want to take the easy way out who gives a big rats *** about the khsaa the courts will take care of this you want a easy way out see what a judge says. the only person that was wrong in this matter was the sucker punching kid from jc and thats the way it is.

[JOBAKKA]

Good post! My thoughts and prayers are with the Estill kid to have a speedy recovery!

This was a poorly officated game that was just plain dirty and got out of control, both sides are guilty. The game tape that was submitted will tell the whole story, before, during and after the incident and not just pieces that an EC or JC fan saw or remembered.

I say disipline the 4 players who were ejected eqaully and let's move on.

Everyone that left the bench area should be suspended per the rules. The fat woman I wont say lady should be charged, and if I hear correctly will be. She left the stands, and went into the floor area. Big no-no

[courtdog]

i think we have two of the best players in the 14th but they never get any credit. Cack and Charles are as good as anyone in the 14th.

[JOBAKKA]

I hope no one notices our teams till we send them home. Then maybe someone might take notice.

[courtdog]

yes what about the big woman what was her deal hope they got her on tape maybe she wanted to get her licks in on a fallen player wow what class jc has.

[courtdog]

this could be the year the 56th could shine we dont have to go all the way to east Ky to play.

[JOBAKKA]

Maybe we can get some home court love for a change

[JCHS05]

Getting pushed around is part 0f the game. This in no way gives any player the right to viciously attack another. This is an unfortunate issue for all those that are involved. Let the process of reviewing tape as a deciding factor.

let ma tell you something. Show me a rule that says pushing isnt a foul. if you want to gripe about johnson central taking up for them selves then maybe the team from estill county needs to stop knocking players like cody parker down. and yes the referees are to blame to but maybe dirty play is also to blame. I played a little in my day and i garantee you there is no way i would take half of what a lot teams do to each other. maybe if the game was played the way it is supposed to be with out all the no calls on knock downs among other things fights wouldnt happen because kids wouldn't feel the need to stand up for themselves if the coaches would stop teaching dirty tactics and the refs would call fouls.

[NeerMom]

:argue: If Crowe was the only that retaliated then he would have been the only one ejected by the officials. You need to take your blue colored glasses off. Estill would definately do some good by taping your games. Your opinions don't mean anything without the proper documentation to back it up. Estill County did leave their bench and their coaching staff did not do anything more than the JC coaching staff to stop the problem. In fact, didn't the coach of Estill County argue with a fan of Johnson Central to the point that he had to be restrained. Let me answer that for you, he did.

The coach of Estill county had a mother that jumped onto the court and came at him when all he was doing was trying to protect his players. She was very out of control and kept coming at him and kept coming at him. Why dont you people get a grip? If it hadnt been for coaches trying to get the players under control there is no telling who else would have gotten hurt. Why dont you quit trying delegate blame where it doesnt belong? The ONLY issue here is the fact that Ian Welch hurt a young man very badly. How about you take your blue colored glasses off?

[courtdog]

let ma tell you something. Show me a rule that says pushing isnt a foul. if you want to gripe about johnson central taking up for them selves then maybe the team from estill county needs to stop knocking players like cody parker down. and yes the referees are to blame to but maybe dirty play is also to blame. I played a little in my day and i garantee you there is no way i would take half of what a lot teams do to each other. maybe if the game was played the way it is supposed to be with out all the no calls on knock downs among other things fights wouldnt happen because kids wouldn't feel the need to stand up for themselves if the coaches would stop teaching dirty tactics and the refs would call fouls.

just drop it man the courts will take care of this whole manner.

[courtdog]

Good post! My thoughts and prayers are with the Estill kid to have a speedy recovery!

This was a poorly officated game that was just plain dirty and got out of control, both sides are guilty. The game tape that was submitted will tell the whole story, before, during and after the incident and not just pieces that an EC or JC fan saw or remembered.

I say disipline the 4 players who were ejected eqaully and let's move on.

maybe the judge want be as bad as the ref's and Kenton will get a fair trial this and not get suckered punched again then no one will have anyone to blame. we just want a fair trial. from a neers fan

[AleDavJes]

let ma tell you something. Show me a rule that says pushing isnt a foul. if you want to gripe about johnson central taking up for them selves then maybe the team from estill county needs to stop knocking players like cody parker down. and yes the referees are to blame to but maybe dirty play is also to blame. I played a little in my day and i garantee you there is no way i would take half of what a lot teams do to each other. maybe if the game was played the way it is supposed to be with out all the no calls on knock downs among other things fights wouldnt happen because kids wouldn't feel the need to stand up for themselves if the coaches would stop teaching dirty tactics and the refs would call fouls.

First of all, your grammar, typing, and capitalization are excellent. You represent yourself in such a classy way on here. Now in all seriousness, pushing may be a foul. Playing dirty may be a violation. But, sucker punching a kid (when you are 18+years of age) is a felony. Period. I highly doubt you can compare pushing and "playing dirty" to a closed-fist punch that results in a concussion, broken bones, and permanent physical damage. And I don't care if you played in your day or not, you would put up with a little pushing and a little "dirty play" or you would not play. That is a part of the sport, so get over it. Otherwise, Shaq would never have made it playing basketball. Back to point, don't throw threats around like "there is no way I would take half of what a lot of teams do to each other." Like I said, you either would take it or you would not play. Or possibly, you'd end up doing something stupid like Welch and end up in court.

[ecblue02]

First of all my prayers go out to Kenton at this time. Hope he has a quick and full recovery from that terrible injury.

As a fan at the game, I was appalled by what I witnessed. Anyone who was there can not deny that Kenton was attacked. I saw NOTHING on his part that would warrant such behavior from the JC player. I hope that the player who hit him suffers the consequences for his behavior. I know that tempers can flare in the heat of a close game, but that hit was severe enough to warrant a lengthy suspension from the basketball court. I personally do not think he should be allowed to play another game this season.

Although Crowe deserved the ejection since he violated the rules, I do not blame him for retaliating. Those boys are family and care for each other too much to witness something like that without coming to the defense of a teammate!

Here's to the team pulling together to finish off a well played season. I hope they can use this as fuel for some big wins in the district tournament!

[courtdog]

First of all, your grammar, typing, and capitalization are excellent. You represent yourself in such a classy way on here. Now in all seriousness, pushing may be a foul. Playing dirty may be a violation. But, sucker punching a kid (when you are 18+years of age) is a felony. Period. I highly doubt you can compare pushing and "playing dirty" to a closed-fist punch that results in a concussion, broken bones, and permanent physical damage. And I don't care if you played in your day or not, you would put up with a little pushing and a little "dirty play" or you would not play. That is a part of the sport, so get over it. Otherwise, Shaq would never have made it playing basketball. Back to point, don't throw threats around like "there is no way I would take half of what a lot of teams do to each other." Like I said, you either would take it or you would not play. Or possibly, you'd end up doing something stupid like Welch and end up in court.

this was a great post people from jc have made ever excuss they can now it's in the hands of the court system so lt see who is wrong.

[Mama Bear]

Prayers to the young man injured and all involved.

I'm in no way shape or form involved with either school. I'm in a whole other region. I've just read what was on here about what occurred. I was wondering if there are charges and let's say even convictions that are a result of this, what will be the long term affect that this will have on basketball? I realize that people's tempers are still very high right now and this may be an innappropriate time to ask and my apologies if it is. It's just that anytime you start getting lawyers involved .....and the court system...and money......

Like I said, I hope this question doesn't offend anyone. If it were my son I may feel totally different. These are teenagers involved.

[courtdog]

a 19 year old suckered punched a 16 year old for no reason and yes if it was your son you would feel diff. there is no place in sport for a cowarldy act like this and yes there is law action taken and should be.

[NeerMom]

Prayers to the young man injured and all involved.

I'm in no way shape or form involved with either school. I'm in a whole other region. I've just read what was on here about what occurred. I was wondering if there are charges and let's say even convictions that are a result of this, what will be the long term affect that this will have on basketball? I realize that people's tempers are still very high right now and this may be an innappropriate time to ask and my apologies if it is. It's just that anytime you start getting lawyers involved .....and the court system...and money......

Like I said, I hope this question doesn't offend anyone. If it were my son I may feel totally different. These are teenagers involved.

A lawyer has been detained, and criminal charges began to be filed. Estill County may not recover this season from psychological and physical damages that were done to these young men. Hopefully, this will make referees, law enforcement, school administrators, and members of teams aware of the consequences of incidents like these.

[ecblue02]

I think criminal charges are warranted in this case. The only was to keep things like this from happening in the future is to make sure we do not tolerate this behavior. These are kids! Those boys should be able to focus on the game without worrying about their safety! I only hope our boys can rebound from this both physically AND mentally.

[Eagle_Fan442]

It's a shame that it happened...but it happened. The least everyone could do is be honest about it. Roberts instigated the whole thing. Ian retaliated. May not of been the right way to retaliate but in the same sense he didn't start it either. Some of Estills fans on here saying that 6 players from JC was hitting Roberts after he was on the ground is doing nothing but lying, that is not what happened. There may be charges filed...both ways.

[ecblue02]

It's a shame that it happened...but it happened. The least everyone could do is be honest about it. Roberts instigated the whole thing. Ian retaliated. May not of been the right way to retaliate but in the same sense he didn't start it either. Some of Estills fans on here saying that 6 players from JC was hitting Roberts after he was on the ground is doing nothing but lying, that is not what happened. There may be charges filed...both ways.

You can call it retaliotion if you want...the courts are going to call it assault.

[Express]

It's a shame that it happened...but it happened. The least everyone could do is be honest about it. Roberts instigated the whole thing. Ian retaliated. May not of been the right way to retaliate but in the same sense he didn't start it either. Some of Estills fans on here saying that 6 players from JC was hitting Roberts after he was on the ground is doing nothing but lying, that is not what happened. There may be charges filed...both ways.

No it was said that there were 3 players that jumped on Kenton and 3 players on Crowe. I am not lying - IT IS 100% TRUTH. I have one to answer to and it is not you - He knows I'm telling the truth.
Roberts Didn't instigate getting punched while not looking. This is my last post on this. It doesn't have to be proven on BGR. Right is Right wrong is wrong - If there was an apology and admission of guilt and accountability we probably could have avoided all of this. Instead we have people teaching kids if you get played too rough in a game then you can suckerpunch them when they are not looking. I will never teach my kids that - ever. They will be held accountable for their actions even if there are consequences that affect their lives. Kenton I'm praying for your speedy recovery - if yoiu are reading this, and some of this makes me as sick as I know it does you.
THE END

[BigSis]

It's a shame that it happened...but it happened. The least everyone could do is be honest about it. Roberts instigated the whole thing. Ian retaliated. May not of been the right way to retaliate but in the same sense he didn't start it either. Some of Estills fans on here saying that 6 players from JC was hitting Roberts after he was on the ground is doing nothing but lying, that is not what happened. There may be charges filed...both ways.

It will be interesting to see HOW in the world any Johnson people could file charges when it was their player who assaulted the Estill player. I am pretty sure that one cannot press charges without reason.

[Eagle_Fan442]

Nobody wants to see a kid hurt. All I can say is film should prove what needs to be proven.