Elisha Justice: Major D-1?

**PC_You_Know** · 02-09-2009, 10:42 PM

BasketBallonlyfan Wrote:Just wondering, how many times in a major D-1 game are the point guards expected to drive the lane and dunk on someone? I have personally seen EJ lay the ball over the rim, pull it down to make it look like a dunk, and I have seen him make a clean dunk without pulling the rim down. I just dont think dunking are a normal requirement for a point guard.

Good point, dunks are for style points, the only time a PG is dunking is on a break away, and I don't care if Elisha dunks or not, he scores the 2.

Afternoon_Delight · 02-09-2009, 10:44 PM

PC_You_Know Wrote:Good point, dunks are for style points, the only time a PG is dunking is on a break away, and I don't care if Elisha dunks or not, he scores the 2.

Yep and the last time I checked;

Layup= 2pts

Dunk= 2pts

MonsterMan · 02-09-2009, 11:15 PM

Justice is a great kid and player. There are alot of players on the D-1 level that can do what he does and are bigger, faster and can jump higher, just plain fact.

Landon Slone has proven you can play at the D-1 level if you work hard, I think Justice has this same kind of ethic/

kybaseball · 02-09-2009, 11:21 PM

BasketBallonlyfan Wrote:Just wondering, how many times in a major D-1 game are the point guards expected to drive the lane and dunk on someone? I have personally seen EJ lay the ball over the rim, pull it down to make it look like a dunk, and I have seen him make a clean dunk without pulling the rim down. I just dont think dunking are a normal requirement for a point guard.

It's not the dunk itself that is looked at it's the athletic abilty to do it is.Which also leads to other areas such as playing defense and beating a defender.

And EJ being faster than Lucas is " put them in a real game not a camp and let's see who the quickest is. Wink

I don't understand why people people put so much pressure on him for with all this unrealistic expectations that some have. If it turns out he is going to a major D-1 school great for him.I hope he get's to go to the best college possible

Afternoon_Delight · 02-09-2009, 11:53 PM

kybaseball Wrote:It's not the dunk itself that is looked at it's the athletic abilty to do it is.Which also leads to other areas such as playing defense and beating a defender.

And EJ being faster than Lucas is " put them in a real game not a camp and let's see who the quickest is.

I don't understand why people people put so much pressure on him for with all this unrealistic expectations that some have. If it turns out he is going to a major D-1 school great for him.I hope he get's to go to the best college possible

It's funny that some people just have a bias against others. I mean if it were a kid from Elliott Co. being recruited by D-1 schools then you'd believe nothing less, but since it's not you don't believe it can happen.

It's sad to see that some people still don't believe he can play, even though he's proven it time and time again!

Bengal4Life · 02-09-2009, 11:59 PM

I think Elisha could play D-1 ball and be very productive.

But, best of luck to Elisha.

kybaseball · 02-10-2009, 12:06 AM

Afternoon_Delight Wrote:It's funny that some people just have a bias against others. I mean if it were a kid from Elliott Co. being recruited by D-1 schools then you'd believe nothing less, but since it's not you don't believe it can happen.

It's sad to see that some people still don't believe he can play, even though he's proven it time and time again!

I'm the one biased??????? That's hilarious. :lmao:

Where did I go on about an Elliott player like others have about Justice? And show me ONE POST where I said he could not play. I never said he wouldn't go to a D-1 I just disagree he would go to a major D-1 school at this time. Did I not say he still has time to mature physicaly. Like I said before I hope he goes to the best possible college.

~~Magicjefferson25~~ · 02-10-2009, 12:08 AM

Does anyone have a video on this kid?

~~zulu~~ · 02-10-2009, 12:52 AM

Afternoon_Delight Wrote:Oh no, most people on here won't remember Travis Ford I mean I'm surprised some people will admit that he could even play. Some may argue that Ford didn't even play at UK. A players height means little when their heart and desire and large. Elisha is just that, he has the determination to never quit and he'll prove each and everyone of you doubters who say his size will hinder him. I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong.

Ford could shoot the 3 Justice can't. He will be lucky to play naia

SportsKing · 02-10-2009, 01:07 AM

PC_You_Know Wrote:I have a feeling they're going to. Pelphrey has supposedly made a push for Elisha, and BCG hasn't really done much. I thought BCG was supposed to visit every high school in the state, one of the states best Juniors is going basically unnoticed by BCG, other than the Elite Camp and some open gym.

Billy G likes to recruit 6'5- 6'6 guards that can't shoot, dribble, or pass. He only needs two scorers. LOL!

SportsKing · 02-10-2009, 01:10 AM

theflash Wrote:he would probably have a better outing than porter if he were to play for uk right now..haha

I would like to see Porter and Elisha play some one-on-one right in front of Gilispie!

SportsKing · 02-10-2009, 01:13 AM

kybaseball Wrote:I agree a lot of players height is fibbed about. He needs to grow about 4-5 inches if he doesn't there will be very little chance going major D-1. I wish him well any chance to play at any level would be an honor.

I don't know, looks like there are alot of shorter point guards in the NCAA that are having most of the success right now.

kybaseball · 02-10-2009, 01:15 AM

SportsKing Wrote:I don't know, looks like there are alot of shorter point guards in the NCAA that are having most of the success right now.

Yeah but look at who they are. Wink

kybaseball · 02-10-2009, 01:16 AM

SportsKing Wrote:I would like to see Porter and Elisha play some one-on-one right in front of Gilispie!

Be carefull of what you wish for.:p you may not like what you see.

SportsKing · 02-10-2009, 01:18 AM

kybaseball Wrote:I bet they all can dunk easily and are stronger and faster as well. No knock though he is still a jr and has more time to mature physicaly

Some of them may have more breakaway speed than Elisha, but I would put his quickness with hands and feet up against any of those guys.

EKY Sportster · 02-10-2009, 01:19 AM

??? Didn't we have this same discussion last season about Landon?? All anyone wanted to do then was bash Landon. Well look where he is at right now! No he didn't actually get a scholly, but he is getting PT with the Wildcats! IMO, I don't see Eiisha getting a bunch of fan mail from the major D-1 schools. But I think he can go D-2 easily or walk on at a major D-1 like Landon did and see PT as well.

It really comes down to what he wants to do. If he wants to play a lot, then he needs to stay away from D-1. If he wants to be a part of D-1 then he should go for it. He is a great player and I'm sure he could contribute at the D-1 level. But they just aren't going to come looking for him is all. There is just too much better talent out there.

Best of luck to him though in whatever he chooses to do. Would like to see him as a walk on at UK! But he may want something else.

**BlackcatAlum** · 02-10-2009, 01:19 AM

Magicjefferson25 Wrote:Does anyone have a video on this kid?

kybaseball · 02-10-2009, 01:22 AM

Not bashing him in the least. I said it twice and now for a third time I hope he get to go to the best college possible. So I guess disagreeing is now considered bashing?:confused:

SportsKing · 02-10-2009, 01:23 AM

kybaseball Wrote:Be carefull of what you wish for.:p you may not like what you see.

Maybe not but I would still give credit where credit was due!

kybaseball · 02-10-2009, 01:25 AM

Iknow this is off topic but who was the kid with the dunk? That was sweet. I couldn't tell on the video.

**JOBAKKA** · 02-10-2009, 01:25 AM

EKY Sportster Wrote:??? Didn't we have this same discussion last season about Landon?? All anyone wanted to do then was bash Landon. Well look where he is at right now! No he didn't actually get a scholly, but he is getting PT with the Wildcats! IMO, I don't see Eiisha getting a bunch of fan mail from the major D-1 schools. But I think he can go D-2 easily or walk on at a major D-1 like Landon did and see PT as well.

It really comes down to what he wants to do. If he wants to play a lot, then he needs to stay away from D-1. If he wants to be a part of D-1 then he should go for it. He is a great player and I'm sure he could contribute at the D-1 level. But they just aren't going to come looking for him is all. There is just too much better talent out there.

Best of luck to him though in whatever he chooses to do. Would like to see him as a walk on at UK! But he may want something else.

Always posts with class. Keep up the good work!:p

**JOBAKKA** · 02-10-2009, 01:26 AM

BlackcatAlum Wrote:

Thanks for the video

kybaseball · 02-10-2009, 01:28 AM

SportsKing Wrote:Maybe not but I would still give credit where credit was due!

Me too that's the only way to go.

SportsKing · 02-10-2009, 01:29 AM

Like I said before, if he had the opportunity to showcase the range on his shot, it would seal the deal in my opinion.
I would love to see Elisha playing for Coach K at Duke, not saying that would be a possibility, but Coach K would love his attitude and work ethic. Now that would be a great fit. Poulos fits in pretty well there.

EKY Sportster · 02-10-2009, 01:37 AM

SportsKing Wrote:Like I said before, if he had the opportunity to showcase the range on his shot, it would seal the deal in my opinion.
I would love to see Elisha playing for Coach K at Duke, not saying that would be a possibility, but Coach K would love his attitude and work ethic. Now that would be a great fit. Poulos fits in pretty well there.

Hey, if he ends up at a major D-1 school, we sure don't want to see him at Duke!! lol He would have to be a Wildcat!! Once a Wildcat, always a Wildcat!

Afternoon_Delight · 02-10-2009, 01:41 AM

EKY Sportster Wrote:Hey, if he ends up at a major D-1 school, we sure don't want to see him at Duke!! lol He would have to be a Wildcat!! Once a Wildcat, always a Wildcat!

Dorton, Shelby Valley, possibly UK? lol

Afternoon_Delight · 02-10-2009, 01:43 AM

I'm not saying Elisha is going to become an impact player at a major D-1 school but I do think he can contribute to a D-1 school and I believe he'll end up playing in the SEC somewhere....But that's just my opinion and we'll have to wait and see.

EKY Sportster · 02-10-2009, 01:45 AM

Afternoon_Delight Wrote:I'm not saying Elisha is going to become an impact player at a major D-1 school but I do think he can contribute to a D-1 school and I believe he'll end up playing in the SEC somewhere....But that's just my opinion and we'll have to wait and see.

I don't think that they will offer him a scholarship, but if they do he should jump on it. Would love to see him playing in the SEC, but would prefer he be at UK!!!!!!

Afternoon_Delight · 02-10-2009, 02:05 AM

EKY Sportster Wrote:I don't think that they will offer him a scholarship, but if they do he should jump on it. Would love to see him playing in the SEC, but would prefer he be at UK!!!!!!

And when he was asked he said that has always been a dream of his and he'd love to play at UK and if he was offered it'd be really tough for him to turn it down to play somewhere else.

**PC_You_Know** · 02-10-2009, 02:18 AM

Pelphrey has supposedly shown the most interest. He knows what kind of talent is in Eastern Kentucky and I'm sure if he wanted to know how good Elisha is he could ask BMR, which, I'm sure BMR has more than likely already talked to Pelphrey about Elisha and that's what got Pelphrey interested in the first place.