02-09-2009, 12:02 PM
This thread is not about bashing a high school kid, so play nice please.
I was wondering on everyone's thought's about what he needs to do or keep doing to attract the attention of major D-1 schools.
I'll start by saying that he needs to find a way to showcase his 3-point range without disrupting the cohesion of the team. College coaches already see him as someone who could run their team from the point, but they need to know that he can shoot from the perimeter with some range. Some 30-40 point games would be a big boost, but that's going to be hard because of the style and well-rounded team that he's on at SV.
I was wondering on everyone's thought's about what he needs to do or keep doing to attract the attention of major D-1 schools.
I'll start by saying that he needs to find a way to showcase his 3-point range without disrupting the cohesion of the team. College coaches already see him as someone who could run their team from the point, but they need to know that he can shoot from the perimeter with some range. Some 30-40 point games would be a big boost, but that's going to be hard because of the style and well-rounded team that he's on at SV.
02-09-2009, 12:49 PM
SportsKing Wrote:This thread is not about bashing a high school kid, so play nice please.
I was wondering on everyone's thought's about what he needs to do or keep doing to attract the attention of major D-1 schools.
I'll start by saying that he needs to find a way to showcase his 3-point range without disrupting the cohesion of the team. College coaches already see him as someone who could run their team from the point, but they need to know that he can shoot from the perimeter with some range. Some 30-40 point games would be a big boost, but that's going to be hard because of the style and well-rounded team that he's on at SV.
I doubt you ever see a game close to 40 points from Elisha. He realizes that when the entire team is involved, they are a great team, there's no need to try and fix what isn't broken. If college coaches want him, they'll have to take what they see, which is a great defender, leader, and offensive force.
02-09-2009, 01:06 PM
I was extremely impressed with this young man at the state All A. Great ball handler, passer, and cool under pressure. I'm not sure he's major D-1 material or not (his size may be an issue), but he's definitely mid-major in my opinion.
02-09-2009, 01:49 PM
I thought that he was being looked at by schools such as Florida. If those schools think he is good enough for D-1, then why would we question it?
02-09-2009, 02:04 PM
IMO he is a very good player. But I think that his height will hurt him.
02-09-2009, 02:24 PM
Come on guys have we not already been over this. Size is a very small factor when it comes to playing PG....Elisha is listed as 5'11, guess who else is listed as 5'11....Ty Lawson.
Listen, if I had to choose between a 6'3 average talent player or a 5'11 great talent, I would take the great talent every time.
Elisha is a great ball handler who has a nice shot.
IMO he does not need to show he can shoot the 3 on a regular basis because a lot of PG's do not shoot a ton of 3's.
As long as he doesn't suffer any sort of major injury he will be D-1. I wish him nothing but the best!
Listen, if I had to choose between a 6'3 average talent player or a 5'11 great talent, I would take the great talent every time.
Elisha is a great ball handler who has a nice shot.
IMO he does not need to show he can shoot the 3 on a regular basis because a lot of PG's do not shoot a ton of 3's.
As long as he doesn't suffer any sort of major injury he will be D-1. I wish him nothing but the best!
02-09-2009, 02:33 PM
Maybe????
i think if he goes to a D-1 college he wont play that much so i believe he will go to atleast a D-2 college
i think if he goes to a D-1 college he wont play that much so i believe he will go to atleast a D-2 college
02-09-2009, 02:38 PM
i know, right? Wrote:Maybe????
i think if he goes to a D-1 college he wont play that much so i believe he will go to atleast a D-2 college
Hardly anyone on this site thought Landon would see much playign time at UK. Heck, he's on the floor his freshman year, and BCG has said it was because of his D, we all know that Elisha is a better player than Landon, and a WAY better defender, so why wouldn't Elisha see much playing time?
02-09-2009, 03:01 PM
Heart can take over for height. Some kids have the "it" factor that you just can't put on a stat sheet, and he has it. KY better not lose another good one to an out-of-state school yet again.
02-09-2009, 03:13 PM
roundball gal Wrote:Heart can take over for height. Some kids have the "it" factor that you just can't put on a stat sheet, and he has it. KY better not lose another good one to an out-of-state school yet again.
I have a feeling they're going to. Pelphrey has supposedly made a push for Elisha, and BCG hasn't really done much. I thought BCG was supposed to visit every high school in the state, one of the states best Juniors is going basically unnoticed by BCG, other than the Elite Camp and some open gym.
02-09-2009, 03:15 PM
Afternoon_Delight Wrote:Come on guys have we not already been over this. Size is a very small factor when it comes to playing PG....Elisha is listed as 5'11, guess who else is listed as 5'11....Ty Lawson.
Listen, if I had to choose between a 6'3 average talent player or a 5'11 great talent, I would take the great talent every time.
Elisha is a great ball handler who has a nice shot.
IMO he does not need to show he can shoot the 3 on a regular basis because a lot of PG's do not shoot a ton of 3's.
As long as he doesn't suffer any sort of major injury he will be D-1. I wish him nothing but the best!
Just because you are listed at 5'11" does not mean that you are. Pretty confident in saying that he isn't that tall.
02-09-2009, 03:19 PM
thetribe Wrote:Just because you are listed at 5'11" does not mean that you are. Pretty confident in saying that he isn't that tall.
I've said it a few times on here, I just graduated from Valley last year, I saw the boy every day in the halls, I'm close to 6'1, 6'0 and 7/8 to be exact, and Elisha wasn't much shorter than me.
02-09-2009, 04:12 PM
How far Shelby Valley advances in the State Tournament this year will
publicize Elisha Justice as well. If they should happen to go to the Elilte 8 or
16, coaches might ask who was the point guard. He could use publicity, I think
he is ready to play already and could do better at point guard than the present
crew at UK. Just my opinion.
publicize Elisha Justice as well. If they should happen to go to the Elilte 8 or
16, coaches might ask who was the point guard. He could use publicity, I think
he is ready to play already and could do better at point guard than the present
crew at UK. Just my opinion.
02-09-2009, 04:16 PM
he would probably have a better outing than porter if he were to play for uk right now..haha
02-09-2009, 04:17 PM
thetribe Wrote:Just because you are listed at 5'11" does not mean that you are. Pretty confident in saying that he isn't that tall.
I have never seen him play, but would anyone compare his style to Downey? Before Downey transferred to USC, I watched the kid from up close when he was a Freshman at UC. He is 5-8 tops. Many Chuck Machok (UC announcer)interviews made it clear that Downey was shorter than Chuck, and Chuck is 5-10.
02-09-2009, 04:19 PM
Stardust Wrote:I have never seen him play, but would anyone compare his style to Downey? Before Downey transferred to USC, I watched the kid from up close when he was a Freshman at UC. He is 5-8 tops. Many Chuck Machok (UC announcer)interviews made it clear that Downey was shorter than Chuck, and Chuck is 5-10.
I was take the comparison to Downey. Elisha is a fast and good defender just like Downey.
02-09-2009, 04:20 PM
Elisha is major D-1 IMO. He has it all only thing he cannot do is dunk, but comes very close.
If UK doesn't offer then I expect him to goto Arkansas or Marshall.
If UK doesn't offer then I expect him to goto Arkansas or Marshall.
02-09-2009, 04:24 PM
BlackcatAlum Wrote:Elisha is major D-1 IMO. He has it all only thing he cannot do is dunk, but comes very close.
If UK doesn't offer then I expect him to goto Arkansas or Marshall.
He can get up there and put the ball in, it isn't pretty and he can't do it consistently in a game, but he does have some hops.
02-09-2009, 04:34 PM
BlackcatAlum Wrote:Elisha is major D-1 IMO. He has it all only thing he cannot do is dunk, but comes very close.
If UK doesn't offer then I expect him to goto Arkansas or Marshall.
I think you are right--his heart would probably be with UK, but it will probably end up being something like Arkansas or Marshall. Wherever he ends up, he will be a coaches' dream. He listens, works harder than anyone, and loves the game of basketball. To the person who described him as having the "it" factor, I think that is the best way to describe him. He just has something that makes him a special player and his height will never be an obstacle. He has heard it his entire life and he has always excelled in spite of it.
02-09-2009, 06:48 PM
thetribe Wrote:Just because you are listed at 5'11" does not mean that you are. Pretty confident in saying that he isn't that tall.
I agree a lot of players height is fibbed about. He needs to grow about 4-5 inches if he doesn't there will be very little chance going major D-1. I wish him well any chance to play at any level would be an honor.
02-09-2009, 07:13 PM
Stardust Wrote:I thought that he was being looked at by schools such as Florida. If those schools think he is good enough for D-1, then why would we question it?
Exactly.
02-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Talking about size, does anyone remember Travis Ford. He was listed at 5'9" and 165 ponds. After high school he played a Missouri and was named to the Big 8 All-Freshman team. Transfered to UK and set school records in single game assist, single season 3 point field goals, consecutive free throws made. He was also All-SEC in 93 & 94 seasons and was the Regional Most Outstanding Player 1993 NCAA Tourny. Travis was SEC Tourny MVP in 93 & 94 and was Academic All-SEC all 3 years at UK.
Heart and desire with talent can over come size sometimes and Elisha is in that category. I think he has a very good shot at D-1. I wish him nothing but the best.
Heart and desire with talent can over come size sometimes and Elisha is in that category. I think he has a very good shot at D-1. I wish him nothing but the best.
02-09-2009, 09:32 PM
Colonel Kill Wrote:Talking about size, does anyone remember Travis Ford. He was listed at 5'9" and 165 ponds. After high school he played a Missouri and was named to the Big 8 All-Freshman team. Transfered to UK and set school records in single game assist, single season 3 point field goals, consecutive free throws made. He was also All-SEC in 93 & 94 seasons and was the Regional Most Outstanding Player 1993 NCAA Tourny. Travis was SEC Tourny MVP in 93 & 94 and was Academic All-SEC all 3 years at UK.
Heart and desire with talent can over come size sometimes and Elisha is in that category. I think he has a very good shot at D-1. I wish him nothing but the best.
Oh no, most people on here won't remember Travis Ford I mean I'm surprised some people will admit that he could even play. Some may argue that Ford didn't even play at UK. A players height means little when their heart and desire and large. Elisha is just that, he has the determination to never quit and he'll prove each and everyone of you doubters who say his size will hinder him. I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong.
02-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Afternoon_Delight Wrote:Oh no, most people on here won't remember Travis Ford I mean I'm surprised some people will admit that he could even play. Some may argue that Ford didn't even play at UK. A players height means little when their heart and desire and large. Elisha is just that, he has the determination to never quit and he'll prove each and everyone of you doubters who say his size will hinder him. I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong.
I thought with the ones who say that size is Elisha's problem getting to D1 must have fogotten about Mr. Ford. Travis was not as big as Elisha yet look what he accomplished. Heart, Desire and Talent is what it takes and Elisha has it all.
02-09-2009, 09:49 PM
NIKE2010 Wrote:IMO he is a very good player. But I think that his height will hurt him.
I have said this over and over how does size matter... Look at all the top teams and the teams that are winning and beating kentucky.. Downey and Bocht, and Ole miss guard, Floridas guard, Ty Lawson, levance fields, aj price, and Arkansas guard Fortson whom I think is freshman of the year in the sec... All those guards are under 6'0 so I dont understand though
02-09-2009, 10:01 PM
theVILLE Wrote:I have said this over and over how does size matter... Look at all the top teams and the teams that are winning and beating kentucky.. Downey and Bocht, and Ole miss guard, Floridas guard, Ty Lawson, levance fields, aj price, and Arkansas guard Fortson whom I think is freshman of the year in the sec... All those guards are under 6'0 so I dont understand though
I bet they all can dunk easily and are stronger and faster as well. No knock though he is still a jr and has more time to mature physicaly
02-09-2009, 10:18 PM
kybaseball Wrote:I bet they all can dunk easily and are stronger and faster as well. No knock though he is still a jr and has more time to mature physicaly
I dunno how fast Jai Lucas is but I know for a fact that Elisha Justice is quicker than him!
02-09-2009, 10:20 PM
Afternoon_Delight Wrote:I dunno how fast Jai Lucas is but I know for a fact that Elisha Justice is quicker than him!
Yep, and Jai is a proven D-1 guard.
02-09-2009, 10:30 PM
PC_You_Know Wrote:He can get up there and put the ball in, it isn't pretty and he can't do it consistently in a game, but he does have some hops.yeah, it showed him have a fast break one handed dunk in a game on wymt a few weeks ago. Didn't bring down the goal or anything, but it was a dunk in a game by a point guard, by george.
02-09-2009, 10:31 PM
kybaseball Wrote:I bet they all can dunk easily and are stronger and faster as well. No knock though he is still a jr and has more time to mature physicalyJust wondering, how many times in a major D-1 game are the point guards expected to drive the lane and dunk on someone? I have personally seen EJ lay the ball over the rim, pull it down to make it look like a dunk, and I have seen him make a clean dunk without pulling the rim down. I just dont think dunking are a normal requirement for a point guard.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It is the size of the fight in the dog.
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