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01-27-2009, 05:53 PM
i mean honestly if people would give these pirates 2 more years with this coach you will major improvement... players have to learn a system and last time i checked EVERY TEAM HAS REBUILDING YEARS and you dont go firing a coach during a rebuilding period because that will just lead to more of them on down the road... If monroe jones is any kind of athletic director he wont listen to the negatives and he'll look at the future this team has... come one powell county, its not the coach...
01-27-2009, 06:37 PM
Hang In There Coach Hall, From What I've Read And Heard Your Doing The Right Things.
01-28-2009, 02:36 AM
I OWN THE PAINT Wrote:those 6 player didn't want to tough it out,they should of stayed strong instead off running off crying...so i think it good their gone :howdy:
Last time I checked no one ran off crying. They ran off to play basketball somewhere other than Powell. Can you blame them? Crowe went to Estill, Hawkins went to Wolfe, and Conley, Frailey, Rice, and Rose all went to play JAMS. Maybe its just me but it seems like they made a good choice the way everyone is talking. Estill, Wolfe, and even a JAMS lineup could beat the Pirates this year. Its just seems sad to me that a church league has more talent than the high school team.

01-28-2009, 09:35 AM
Chill out, the coach isnt to blame in this situation. I am not going to talk about any specific players because they are kids but, they have no heart. They have no leader on the floor and those older kids quit because they were losing. You talk about the kids that quit, we are not exactly talking about Ritchie Farmer and Allen Houston here. Help is on the way if the rumors are true for next year and I finally got to see a middle school game the other night and the future looks pretty good, those kids play extremely hard and that little point guard for the 8th grade is lights out and seems to be a good leader on the floor. I came away extremely impressed with the middle school program and the way those kids played for the coach.
01-28-2009, 11:57 AM
I think you need to look at history. BL struggled last year and look at this year. Coach Hall will have them ready you just have to relax, they will play like "trojan warriors"
01-28-2009, 01:28 PM
betsylaynealum Wrote:I think you need to look at history. BL struggled last year and look at this year. Coach Hall will have them ready you just have to relax, they will play like "trojan warriors"
Most of the players on Powell dont know the meaning of hardwork. They dont dive on loose balls, get back on D, fight for rebounds, or give it all they've got while they are on the court. I'm not saying that its everyone because their are a few players who do play hard, but as a whole they just dont hustle like they should. I hope Hall can turn them into Trojan Warriors but I just dont see it happening with this bunch.
01-28-2009, 08:49 PM
powellpirates08 Wrote:i mean honestly if people would give these pirates 2 more years with this coach you will major improvement... players have to learn a system and last time i checked EVERY TEAM HAS REBUILDING YEARS and you dont go firing a coach during a rebuilding period because that will just lead to more of them on down the road... If monroe jones is any kind of athletic director he wont listen to the negatives and he'll look at the future this team has... come one powell county, its not the coach...
Exactly. Nobody has the same ideas, so when you change coaches, the team must adjust. I don't think you can ever judge a coach during their first year. I think you should keep a coach at least 3 years before a change is considered. During the first year, wins should not only be what is used to judge the coach.
01-28-2009, 09:54 PM
NoTime2Waste Wrote:Last time I checked no one ran off crying. They ran off to play basketball somewhere other than Powell. Can you blame them? Crowe went to Estill, Hawkins went to Wolfe, and Conley, Frailey, Rice, and Rose all went to play JAMS. Maybe its just me but it seems like they made a good choice the way everyone is talking. Estill, Wolfe, and even a JAMS lineup could beat the Pirates this year. Its just seems sad to me that a church league has more talent than the high school team.
:Clap: I love this guy he took the words right from my mouth! :notworthy
01-28-2009, 11:54 PM
I've got an idea what Powell should do.
Stop the negativity towards the team and the coach! That's all we here on this site, every I bet there are 15 threads on Powell Co and how bad their team is and how bad their coach is (at least every Powell Co. thread ends up talking about that). Also, it is the same 4-5 kids on here that are making those posts.
Let the team play and let the coach coach. It's getting old!
Stop the negativity towards the team and the coach! That's all we here on this site, every I bet there are 15 threads on Powell Co and how bad their team is and how bad their coach is (at least every Powell Co. thread ends up talking about that). Also, it is the same 4-5 kids on here that are making those posts.
Let the team play and let the coach coach. It's getting old!
01-29-2009, 08:49 AM
NoTime2Waste Wrote:Most of the players on Powell dont know the meaning of hardwork. They dont dive on loose balls, get back on D, fight for rebounds, or give it all they've got while they are on the court. I'm not saying that its everyone because their are a few players who do play hard, but as a whole they just dont hustle like they should. I hope Hall can turn them into Trojan Warriors but I just dont see it happening with this bunch.
Yes some of the players do dive after the ball. As in my previous post I said #5 and #11 scared me to death with all the bleacher diving when KCC played them. You just aren't giving them a chance. It takes a couple of years for a new coach to rebuild a team. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither is a good ball team.
01-29-2009, 09:17 AM
LOOKAYANNER Wrote:Hall is not to blame. He didn't exactly inherit a ton of talent when he arrived at Powell County. That's due to the fact that the previous coach concentrated on working with 13 seniors and forgetting about what was coming up for the future. And then 2 of the better players he had at his disposal when he came there took their cry-baby attitudes and quit/transferred after they were unhappy with their playing time in a pre-season scrimmage game. Good Lord!! Can you image that? A pre season scrimmage! All I can say about that is both of them are now someone else's problem to give them the sugar tit.
Hall will be OK. He simply inherited a bad problem. Don't make him the scapegoat.
If i am not totally mistaken,Powell had lots of seniors last two years and they was suppose to win 14th Region,but when you dont play ur younger kids u get in to trouble down the road,Coach Hall isnt the problem,well his % of problem is way less that 2 other things,% of Problem is the Parents (not being able to tell kids they need to work harder,pratice harder,play harder if they wanta get better and more floor time,but they tell them they are the Best and next D-1 player at UK/L'ville) thats in all schools,then what % of problem is kids having so many other things to do,could care less if they pratice,but come game night they should be starting and mad if they are not,and if they dont pratice they shouldnt get to play,cause praticing is where you teach and learn to play the game,heard a couple young freshmans didnt play cause they wanted to use weight room for Football maybe next year they will be playing and could help some ...Good Luck Powell
01-29-2009, 11:50 AM
goodguy Wrote:I've got an idea what Powell should do.
Stop the negativity towards the team and the coach! That's all we here on this site, every I bet there are 15 threads on Powell Co and how bad their team is and how bad their coach is (at least every Powell Co. thread ends up talking about that). Also, it is the same 4-5 kids on here that are making those posts.
Let the team play and let the coach coach. It's getting old!
It's been a while since I logged onto BGR. I am not surprised to see Powell has yet another debate. But to throw a coach under the bus. I just don't think these people realize the committment and sacrifice a coach gives to the kids, and yet receives little, or no respect in return. This is from players and parents. I hope the AD there can realize it will take time to rebuild this team and teach these kids an entirely new concept...respect, discipline and hard work achieves results. No one owes you guys anything. No one is required to give you a spot on a team because of your age, height, weight, color, last name, financial assets or reputation. You gotta earn it. Keep up the good work coach and the players that have pulled through this bad time. You will perservere and be glad in the end!
01-31-2009, 03:19 PM
OldHasBeenOfEstill Wrote:It's been a while since I logged onto BGR. I am not surprised to see Powell has yet another debate. But to throw a coach under the bus. I just don't think these people realize the committment and sacrifice a coach gives to the kids, and yet receives little, or no respect in return. This is from players and parents. I hope the AD there can realize it will take time to rebuild this team and teach these kids an entirely new concept...respect, discipline and hard work achieves results. No one owes you guys anything. No one is required to give you a spot on a team because of your age, height, weight, color, last name, financial assets or reputation. You gotta earn it. Keep up the good work coach and the players that have pulled through this bad time. You will perservere and be glad in the end!
WELL I THINK ITS THE COACHES CONCEPT THATS THE PROBLEM. I HAVE SEEN EVERY GAME THIS YEAR AND HAVE WATCHED THE CHANGES HE IS TRYING TO MAKE. I THINK THE COACH MAY BE UNWILLING TO MESH HIS STYLE WITH THE PLAYERS TALENT. MAYBE HIS SLOWED PACED ,RUN A BUNCH OF PLAYS VERSUS THE HIGH SPEED ALL GO NO STOP STYLE THEY HAVE BEEN PLAYING, MOST OF THEM FOR 6 YEARS IS BATTELING EACH OTHER. WE NEED A GOOD MIDDLE HERE FOR THE COACH AND THE PLAYERS. OBVIOUSLY THE CURRENT STYLE IS NOT WORKING. ALSO THE COACH CAN BE UNDECISIVE WHEN HE CHOOSES A PLAY DURING A TIME OUT. I MEAN I HAVE HEARD HIM SAY WELL GUYS LETS RUN THIS PLAY AND THEN SAY WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS OR MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THIS INSTEAD CAN YOU DO IT. I THINK HE MEANS WELL REALLY I DO AND HE IS A NICE PERSON. I KNOW THE BOYS THERE ARE TRYING, WORKING HARD, SHOWING UP TO ALL PRACTICES, AND LISTENING TO THE COACH. BUT ALWAYS REMEMBER TO GET RESPECT YOU ALSO HAVE TO GIVE IT. PLAYERS AND COACHES.

01-31-2009, 03:30 PM
NoTime2Waste Wrote:Last time I checked no one ran off crying. They ran off to play basketball somewhere other than Powell. Can you blame them? Crowe went to Estill, Hawkins went to Wolfe, and Conley, Frailey, Rice, and Rose all went to play JAMS. Maybe its just me but it seems like they made a good choice the way everyone is talking. Estill, Wolfe, and even a JAMS lineup could beat the Pirates this year. Its just seems sad to me that a church league has more talent than the high school team.
OK WELL I DONT BLAME CROWE OF HAWKINS. THE OTHERS LEAVING I DO I THINK THEY TOOK THE EASY ROAD OUT. THEY WERE NOT HAPPY WITH PLAYING TIME AND WELL TOUGH. LIFE IS NOT FAIR IF YOU AREN'T DOING THE JOB YOU WILL BE REPLACED EVERYONE IS REPLACEABLE. ITS MUCH HARDER TO WORK THROUGH THIS YEAR THAN IT IS TO GO PLAY JAMS BECAUSE WELL EVERYBODY PLAYS. I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR QUITERS. NOW CAN WE QUIT TALKING ABOUT THE QUITERS THEY LEFT THEY CAN NO LONGER HELP OR HURT US END OF STORY.:beg:
01-31-2009, 06:19 PM
I've read a lot of PC threads and they all seem to be quite negative towards everybody. IMO the "fans" need to shut up and let the coach coach. The first year a coach takes over is more of a reflection of the previous coach's ability to develop players than the new coaches ability to coach. The players that quite apparently weren't very strong mentally. If they were they wouldn't quite on their teammates, family, and school. These type of people will quite everything that is hard for the rest of their lives. The fans and players need to man up and just grow up a little. Powell has never been a juggernaut at basketball anyway. Its not like they are Holmes, or Paintsville, ect. I think it is a shame you blast a coach for not being that good when he essentially has a new team. Have a little bit of support for your school. Lord have mercy I wouldn't want to play or coach for people that negative. It is embarrasing to see adults and students act like this when the cupboard is bare.
01-31-2009, 06:25 PM
Give Coach Hall his chance...he did inherit a team with chemistry problems...he will work through this...
01-31-2009, 06:49 PM
Chuck Taylor Wrote:Give Coach Hall his chance...he did inherit a team with chemistry problems...he will work through this...
WHAT CHEMISTRY PROBLEM?
01-31-2009, 06:57 PM
Booya Wrote:I've read a lot of PC threads and they all seem to be quite negative towards everybody. IMO the "fans" need to shut up and let the coach coach. The first year a coach takes over is more of a reflection of the previous coach's ability to develop players than the new coaches ability to coach. The players that quite apparently weren't very strong mentally. If they were they wouldn't quite on their teammates, family, and school. These type of people will quite everything that is hard for the rest of their lives. The fans and players need to man up and just grow up a little. Powell has never been a juggernaut at basketball anyway. Its not like they are Holmes, or Paintsville, ect. I think it is a shame you blast a coach for not being that good when he essentially has a new team. Have a little bit of support for your school. Lord have mercy I wouldn't want to play or coach for people that negative. It is embarrasing to see adults and students act like this when the cupboard is bare.
HOW CAN THIS BE A REFLECTION ON THE PREVIOUS COACH WHEN ONLY 2 PLAYERS CREECH AND REED ARE LEFT THAT HAD VARSITY EXPERIENCE AND THEY ARE SOPHOMORES? THE REST OF THE TEAM IS GONE THAT WOULD HAVE PLAYED. I DO NOT SUPPORT QUITTING AND YOU SHOULD FINISH ANYTING YOU START REGARDLESS OF WINS OR LOSES. BUT THIS IS HONESTLY NOT A REFLECTION ON COACH LIVELY AT ALL. AS FAR AS MANNING UP I THINK THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING NOT ALLOWING OUR PROGRAM TO GO DOWN THE TOILET FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. I REALLY THINK THE ENTIRE PROBLEMS REVOLVES AROUND HE COACHES INABILITY TO COMMUNICATE. BY THE WAY IF YOU ARE NOT A PLAYER OR A PARENT YOU HAVE NO IDEA.:mad:
01-31-2009, 07:59 PM
THEONLYONE Wrote:WHAT CHEMISTRY PROBLEM?A bunch of whiners and quitters. Now that he has got rid of them the program will move forward.
02-01-2009, 02:08 AM
THEONLYONE Wrote:WELL I THINK ITS THE COACHES CONCEPT THATS THE PROBLEM. I HAVE SEEN EVERY GAME THIS YEAR AND HAVE WATCHED THE CHANGES HE IS TRYING TO MAKE. I THINK THE COACH MAY BE UNWILLING TO MESH HIS STYLE WITH THE PLAYERS TALENT. MAYBE HIS SLOWED PACED ,RUN A BUNCH OF PLAYS VERSUS THE HIGH SPEED ALL GO NO STOP STYLE THEY HAVE BEEN PLAYING, MOST OF THEM FOR 6 YEARS IS BATTELING EACH OTHER. WE NEED A GOOD MIDDLE HERE FOR THE COACH AND THE PLAYERS. OBVIOUSLY THE CURRENT STYLE IS NOT WORKING. ALSO THE COACH CAN BE UNDECISIVE WHEN HE CHOOSES A PLAY DURING A TIME OUT. I MEAN I HAVE HEARD HIM SAY WELL GUYS LETS RUN THIS PLAY AND THEN SAY WHAT DO YOU THINK GUYS OR MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THIS INSTEAD CAN YOU DO IT. I THINK HE MEANS WELL REALLY I DO AND HE IS A NICE PERSON. I KNOW THE BOYS THERE ARE TRYING, WORKING HARD, SHOWING UP TO ALL PRACTICES, AND LISTENING TO THE COACH. BUT ALWAYS REMEMBER TO GET RESPECT YOU ALSO HAVE TO GIVE IT. PLAYERS AND COACHES.
It's just lucky for Powell there's always an excuse and always a scape goat. Keep your head up Hall and don't give up. Remember, if you can make a difference in only one life then you have succeeded.
02-01-2009, 12:45 PM
OldHasBeenOfEstill Wrote:It's just lucky for Powell there's always an excuse and always a scape goat. Keep your head up Hall and don't give up. Remember, if you can make a difference in only one life then you have succeeded.
well what rainbow and lollipop field did you come out of?:Thumbs:
02-01-2009, 08:00 PM
I watched Coach Hall coach at Betsy Layne and I know that he knows the game well and can coach...Sometimes a coach gets the blame when other problems exist. I bet if Coach Hall coached at Scott County or Elliott or Shelby Valley that he would be winning 25-30 games this year. Quit blaming the coach and let him do his job...
02-01-2009, 10:41 PM
THEONLYONE Wrote:well what rainbow and lollipop field did you come out of?:Thumbs:
It wasn't in Powell county, I assure you.:lmao:
02-02-2009, 01:37 AM
Booya Wrote:I've read a lot of PC threads and they all seem to be quite negative towards everybody. IMO the "fans" need to shut up and let the coach coach. The first year a coach takes over is more of a reflection of the previous coach's ability to develop players than the new coaches ability to coach. The players that quite apparently weren't very strong mentally. If they were they wouldn't quite on their teammates, family, and school. These type of people will quite everything that is hard for the rest of their lives. The fans and players need to man up and just grow up a little. Powell has never been a juggernaut at basketball anyway. Its not like they are Holmes, or Paintsville, ect. I think it is a shame you blast a coach for not being that good when he essentially has a new team. Have a little bit of support for your school. Lord have mercy I wouldn't want to play or coach for people that negative. It is embarrasing to see adults and students act like this when the cupboard is bare.
You dont need to label these kids that have quit this team like this, a few of these kids had very good reasons to give it up, not just because they are quiters cause they aren't. So get the story before you put the kids down like this.
02-02-2009, 05:03 AM
Wow, this is kind of pathetic if you ask me. If things were in a hole when I was there we just dug right out. But just because there's a new coach in town doesn't give anyone the right to diss what's happening now. It happens everywhere...not just Powell County. It's a lack of drive in the players, not just the coach, and partially because 2 of our their best players transferred to other schools. Do what you can do with the players you've got. That's exactly what he's doing. If I can recall I belive there's only one senior on that team now. You have to give players time and the coach time to play and coach together to become a team, so in this case its going to take a little time. Don't give in. Do it for the better of the players, they are there for a reason. If they love basketball and have the determination to be the best, then it will happen. Otherwise, it will go farther downhill.
02-02-2009, 05:46 AM
I OWN THE PAINT Wrote:those 6 player didn't want to tough it out,they should of stayed strong instead off running off crying...so i think it good their gone :howdy:
Running off crying? Hmm...isn't all the ones that quit your good friends? That's a real ****ty thing to say about your friends. And I don't think its good that they left cause you all need them. But hey, good luck trying to win with your 6 best players not playing for you all.
02-02-2009, 08:08 AM
Guys...Hall is an outstanding person and a good coach. You have to give him 3 years or so to put his system in place and let everyone get used to his coaching style. He does not play favorites or politics from what I have see and that tends to make him unpopular at least it did at BL. I think if Powell will stick it out and support this guy in a couple of years you all will be on here singing his praises and the praises of your team. Problems like this dont happen over night they build up over time and it takes time to fix them.
02-02-2009, 11:26 PM
THEONLYONE..... SHUT UP.... your post get old, my god. you say the dumbest things about the coach. i mean your not coach K. so untill you are stop the negatives.... no wonder poco is in a bad year. people need to grow up and learn that NO MATTER WHAT you post on BGR its not gonna make any difference. im pretty sure typing up a few things on the computer aint gonna make the team better.... Thats my opinion. THEONLYONE youve gotta learn that at some point in your life youve gotta face the facts and learn that you dont know everything
02-03-2009, 12:37 PM
After losing 13 seniors, Powell County should be happy that they were even able to get a coach this season. Brian Hall will be fine at Powell County, he will install discipline and have success. Parents and players that cant handle discipline will be eliminated and Powell County will start to succeed.
02-04-2009, 09:08 PM
NoTime2Waste Wrote:Last time I checked no one ran off crying. They ran off to play basketball somewhere other than Powell. Can you blame them? Crowe went to Estill, Hawkins went to Wolfe, and Conley, Frailey, Rice, and Rose all went to play JAMS. Maybe its just me but it seems like they made a good choice the way everyone is talking. Estill, Wolfe, and even a JAMS lineup could beat the Pirates this year. Its just seems sad to me that a church league has more talent than the high school team.
Quit the high school basketball team to go play JAMS? Some of you guys played football and this really surprises me. :confused:
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