Allen Central 56

Was A Rebel Fan · 12-20-2008, 12:39 PM

Could be the worse coach teams in the mountains.

sportsfan22 · (This post was last modified: 12-20-2008, 01:23 PM by jammin' jamey.)

Different game if the 2 SF starters were allowed to play. That's the way it goes. Good game STUMBO.

Warriors23RJ · 12-20-2008, 01:29 PM

Why does everyone act suprised by this score. Allen Central is bad yes but South Floyd is equally as bad so I really don't get it.

the old WASP · 12-20-2008, 02:07 PM

Warriors23RJ Wrote:Why does everyone act suprised by this score. Allen Central is bad yes but South Floyd is equally as bad so I really don't get it.

no, sf isn't as bad as ac at this point they just had two players out. that does make a difference

the old WASP · 12-20-2008, 02:09 PM

jolly rancher Wrote:Well I wish him well and this game would have been differnt with him there

I agree 100%

softballcoach · 12-20-2008, 02:33 PM

Great team ball tonight by allen central Im glad to see the team ball at achs instead of just 1 or 2 players trying to score all the points the way it has been for the past 20 some years. They plyed good together and showed some decent defense so good luck rebels and hang in there it will get better

**outdoorsman43** · 12-20-2008, 02:36 PM

the old WASP Wrote:no, sf isn't as bad as ac at this point they just had two players out. that does make a difference

Allen Central is also now without Josh Prater, Hunter Crowder and Logan Crowder so this was a pretty even game IMO

wecare · 12-20-2008, 03:23 PM

the rebels are starting to gel, it may take some time but ac will get it all together, thanks to all the players that decided to stay with coach martin and the rebels. some of us really appreciate the hard work you have givin to the team.

wecare · 12-20-2008, 03:30 PM

thanks to the players that stayed with the team, they are the ones that should have all of your support instead of the negitive things people are saying about them and the team. the two boys that are not there now, one was kicked off and the other choose to leave.
THANKS ALLEN CENTRAL REBELS BASKETBALL TEAM I HOPE THE BEST FOR YOU BOYS THAT REALLY WANTED TO PLAY THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the old WASP · 12-20-2008, 08:09 PM

BigChew Wrote:You may have never said you weren't a rebel fan, but if you go back and look at your posts over the last couple weeks, i think you'll see that you have had nothing but negative things to say about the new coach!

that is because there is nothing positive to say about him

the old WASP · 12-20-2008, 08:10 PM

wecare Wrote:the rebels are starting to gel, it may take some time but ac will get it all together, thanks to all the players that decided to stay with coach martin and the rebels. some of us really appreciate the hard work you have givin to the team.

joke

the old WASP · 12-20-2008, 08:12 PM

wecare Wrote:thanks to the players that stayed with the team, they are the ones that should have all of your support instead of the negitive things people are saying about them and the team. the two boys that are not there now, one was kicked off and the other choose to leave.
THANKS ALLEN CENTRAL REBELS BASKETBALL TEAM I HOPE THE BEST FOR YOU BOYS THAT REALLY WANTED TO PLAY THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

there are 4 players gone. I know some of you are glad they are gone , so your bench warmers can play.

the old WASP · 12-20-2008, 08:14 PM

outdoorsman43 Wrote:Allen Central is also now without Josh Prater, Hunter Crowder and Logan Crowder so this was a pretty even game IMO

these 3 players will not be back, the two from sf will. I am just saying yjr next game those two players may be back

**outdoorsman43** · 12-20-2008, 08:16 PM

the old WASP Wrote:these 3 players will not be back, the two from sf will. I am just saying yjr next game those two players may be back

I know they wont be back, I was saying that it was an evenly matched game IMO

runninrebs21 · 12-20-2008, 09:38 PM

BigChew Wrote:You may have never said you weren't a rebel fan, but if you go back and look at your posts over the last couple weeks, i think you'll see that you have had nothing but negative things to say about the new coach!

The only negative things i have said about the new coach is that he should speed the game up some. I'm not saying they should run n gun, but the players aren't going to have any fun walking the ball up and passing 10 times before a shot. I have played that way before and it is horrible. But I thought Mark did a great job last night, and I wish him nothing but luck throughout the season. I just would like to say the tempo pushed up some.

BigChew · 12-20-2008, 11:51 PM

the old WASP Wrote:that is because there is nothing positive to say about him

Hmmmmmm, grudge? Jealousy? What's the deal, old Wasp?

brain cramp · 12-21-2008, 01:28 AM

runninrebs21 Wrote:The only negative things i have said about the new coach is that he should speed the game up some. I'm not saying they should run n gun, but the players aren't going to have any fun walking the ball up and passing 10 times before a shot. I have played that way before and it is horrible. But I thought Mark did a great job last night, and I wish him nothing but luck throughout the season. I just would like to say the tempo pushed up some.

dont sweat these 2 or 3 people trying to find a silver lining. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a little critical of your school. Most of us are UK fans and have spent the better part of 50 years finding something wrong with UK. These 2 are either parents of the ones getting to play now that 3 are gone or some of Sis Hall's loyalists. They are trying to take this one victory over a weak team that was not even at full strength and say that Coach M. Martin is suddenly vindicated and that the loss of the 3 boys was not missed too much. I cant wait to see how that holds up. I dont think they have 1 more win on the schedule. If you have your opinion so be it, they are upset that someone's opinion does not match theirs. Some of these posts are just hillarious and it is the stuff that keeps me reading.

brain cramp · 12-21-2008, 01:30 AM

BigChew Wrote:Hmmmmmm, grudge? Jealousy? What's the deal, old Wasp?

He probably just dont like the fact that AC messed up making this change and kids and fans are left to deal with it. There may some grudge, but what is there to be jealous about over there at AC right now? I dont get that part at all.

brain cramp · 12-21-2008, 01:31 AM

outdoorsman43 Wrote:I know they wont be back, I was saying that it was an evenly matched game IMO

It probably was pretty even with AC big 3 gone and Sf missing 2 starters. Caught the game on WPRG and I did not see anything that separated them with this scenario.

Was A Rebel Fan · 12-21-2008, 01:34 AM

The kids is who I feel sorry for. Losing by 40 every game couldn't be fun. It takes some kind of person to run a progam into the ground in 4 games.

brain cramp · 12-21-2008, 01:35 AM

wecare Wrote:the rebels are starting to gel, it may take some time but ac will get it all together, thanks to all the players that decided to stay with coach martin and the rebels. some of us really appreciate the hard work you have givin to the team.

I dont think anybody dont appreciate hard work, but gel.....that is just funny! lol.....

BigChew · 12-21-2008, 01:48 AM

brain cramp Wrote:He probably just dont like the fact that AC messed up making this change and kids and fans are left to deal with it. There may some grudge, but what is there to be jealous about over there at AC right now? I dont get that part at all.

I was just asking what his deal was with the new coach. His statement was that there was nothing positive to say about him. His comment wasn't about AC or the administration, it was about the coach.

And I agree, some of these posts are hilarious!

brain cramp · 12-21-2008, 01:54 AM

Was A Rebel Fan Wrote:The kids is who I feel sorry for. Losing by 40 every game couldn't be fun. It takes some kind of person to run a progam into the ground in 4 games.

the kids always suffer at the hands of adults who have something to prove

uhavenoidea · 12-22-2008, 12:48 AM

Like a few others have said when you have basically 3 starters out D.Hall, D. Langdon, and M. Tackett, 3 out of your top 8 or 9 players, your gonna have trouble winning some games. Wait and see, when SF gets healthy they will beat AC 20+. D.Hall was all-conf. last year as a freshman, Langdon is a 6'4 senior thats avg. around 10ppg and 6rpg. and Matt Tackett usually gets 5+pts. You will see a big diff. come the next meeting. So take this one and run with it.

softballcoach · 12-25-2008, 11:05 PM

It seems to me like everybody has forgotten what this site is for.This site is to talk about YOUR team and the players not the grudges you hold against somebody or adminastration issues. The players is who ought to be talked about on here and the hard work and dedication they give day in and day out no matter what I mean we can sit and down every school every player and every coach in the state about something but let try to start talkin about the hard work and the dedidation these players give thier coach everyday. I mean yea theres alot of uf that dont agree with the coaching change at allen central but its done and over with lets move on and either support him or dont say anything at all but if you one of them that dont support him then ur not supporting these kids either and thier the ones out thier sweating and giving it thier all and I know all of them on that team and thier every one great kids and deserve to get that support not the negatism that is going on with them this year. I mean come on people lets get this back to the kids instead of wanting to bash the coaches all the time and start giving nothing but postive words to these young men and women playing these sports the coach is jsut like a boss at work even tho you may not like him are you going to quit and give up or are you going to tough it out and hope that something will change and stay with it lets support these rebels in thier tough time and show them (the kids) the support they need win or lose

**Stardust** · 12-25-2008, 11:55 PM

softballcoach Wrote:It seems to me like everybody has forgotten what this site is for.This site is to talk about YOUR team and the players not the grudges you hold against somebody or adminastration issues. The players is who ought to be talked about on here and the hard work and dedication they give day in and day out no matter what I mean we can sit and down every school every player and every coach in the state about something but let try to start talkin about the hard work and the dedidation these players give thier coach everyday. I mean yea theres alot of uf that dont agree with the coaching change at allen central but its done and over with lets move on and either support him or dont say anything at all but if you one of them that dont support him then ur not supporting these kids either and thier the ones out thier sweating and giving it thier all and I know all of them on that team and thier every one great kids and deserve to get that support not the negatism that is going on with them this year. I mean come on people lets get this back to the kids instead of wanting to bash the coaches all the time and start giving nothing but postive words to these young men and women playing these sports the coach is jsut like a boss at work even tho you may not like him are you going to quit and give up or are you going to tough it out and hope that something will change and stay with it lets support these rebels in thier tough time and show them (the kids) the support they need win or lose

:Thumbs: Thank you, excellent post. Many times we forget what we are doing this for.

fball fan · 12-26-2008, 10:31 PM

softballcoach Wrote:It seems to me like everybody has forgotten what this site is for.This site is to talk about YOUR team and the players not the grudges you hold against somebody or adminastration issues. The players is who ought to be talked about on here and the hard work and dedication they give day in and day out no matter what I mean we can sit and down every school every player and every coach in the state about something but let try to start talkin about the hard work and the dedidation these players give thier coach everyday. I mean yea theres alot of uf that dont agree with the coaching change at allen central but its done and over with lets move on and either support him or dont say anything at all but if you one of them that dont support him then ur not supporting these kids either and thier the ones out thier sweating and giving it thier all and I know all of them on that team and thier every one great kids and deserve to get that support not the negatism that is going on with them this year. I mean come on people lets get this back to the kids instead of wanting to bash the coaches all the time and start giving nothing but postive words to these young men and women playing these sports the coach is jsut like a boss at work even tho you may not like him are you going to quit and give up or are you going to tough it out and hope that something will change and stay with it lets support these rebels in thier tough time and show them (the kids) the support they need win or lose

Great reminder.... lets support the kids

brain cramp · 12-26-2008, 10:58 PM

softballcoach Wrote:It seems to me like everybody has forgotten what this site is for.This site is to talk about YOUR team and the players not the grudges you hold against somebody or adminastration issues. The players is who ought to be talked about on here and the hard work and dedication they give day in and day out no matter what I mean we can sit and down every school every player and every coach in the state about something but let try to start talkin about the hard work and the dedidation these players give thier coach everyday. I mean yea theres alot of uf that dont agree with the coaching change at allen central but its done and over with lets move on and either support him or dont say anything at all but if you one of them that dont support him then ur not supporting these kids either and thier the ones out thier sweating and giving it thier all and I know all of them on that team and thier every one great kids and deserve to get that support not the negatism that is going on with them this year. I mean come on people lets get this back to the kids instead of wanting to bash the coaches all the time and start giving nothing but postive words to these young men and women playing these sports the coach is jsut like a boss at work even tho you may not like him are you going to quit and give up or are you going to tough it out and hope that something will change and stay with it lets support these rebels in thier tough time and show them (the kids) the support they need win or lose

That is great advice for those that live in a perfect world. I have not forgotten what this site is about, it is like other opinion sites. It is a place for those to give their thoughts and opinions. Sometimes, the opionions held by the users are not agreed upon to everyone. While I appreciate your attempt to persuade others to only keep it positive, that is not reality. If you think that saying all is good, when it is not is a good thing, then I say go for it, that is your opinion. I on the other hand do not share that opinion and simply call a spade a spade. There is not a lot of positives to spin on AC basketball, I'm sorry. If you will look at previous posts, the negative comments have not been toward the kids, and most agree on here that the kids suffer at the hands of administration. I would say that at some point, these kids will realize that patting them on the back does not fix the losing and downward spiral that they are caught up in.

fball fan · 12-26-2008, 11:28 PM

brain cramp Wrote:dont sweat these 2 or 3 people trying to find a silver lining. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a little critical of your school. Most of us are UK fans and have spent the better part of 50 years finding something wrong with UK. These 2 are either parents of the ones getting to play now that 3 are gone or some of Sis Hall's loyalists. They are trying to take this one victory over a weak team that was not even at full strength and say that Coach M. Martin is suddenly vindicated and that the loss of the 3 boys was not missed too much. I cant wait to see how that holds up. I dont think they have 1 more win on the schedule. If you have your opinion so be it, they are upset that someone's opinion does not match theirs. Some of these posts are just hillarious and it is the stuff that keeps me reading.

Diffenence of opinions is what makes the site popular. Why do you feel that M Martin needs to be vindicated?
This is a team he given. We may agree with the coaching change or not, but the fact is it happened, if M. Martin didn't take the job someone else would have.
Johnny M did a great job, but heard he just did not see eye to with the Sis hall. If you or I do a great job but can't get along with our boss, how long do you think we would keep our job?

brain cramp · 12-27-2008, 01:30 AM

fball fan Wrote:Diffenence of opinions is what makes the site popular. Why do you feel that M Martin needs to be vindicated?
This is a team he given. We may agree with the coaching change or not, but the fact is it happened, if M. Martin didn't take the job someone else would have.
Johnny M did a great job, but heard he just did not see eye to with the Sis hall. If you or I do a great job but can't get along with our boss, how long do you think we would keep our job?

I imagine you to be a boss. I would say that you feel exactly that way because if someone dont see eye to eye with you, then they should go away. I have never been in a boss role myself. I have always followed my boss's instructions to the letter, even when I thought it a foolish request. All the former coach do was win 500 games. It appears that was his job, I also think former players would attest to the teaching of how to be a better person was a result of his being there. If I was productive and got results, but did not see eye to with my boss and they booted me out, they lost out, and will endure the outcome. I also say that M. Martin knew of the coup before anyone (JMO). That, in my mind just seems wrong. I could be wrong about that, but it sure was a quick hire. BTW, if you choose to follow a successful individual, as you say he chose the job, then yes, you have to prove yourself (vindication). Dont be naive and think otherwise. If your boss makes decisions based on personality and personal relationships and always surrounding themselves who only see eye to eye, I think they may not be a very good boss and will get poor results. That reminds me, what kind of results is this decision actually getting anyway?