[~Pirates Pack a Punch~]

Nobody needs to be cutting their hair this time of year. I know I don't have any to cut, but don't cut any payer's hair if they are playing good. Do not jinx us. BTW, if we make it back to state, I will let Thomas and whoever else wants to, cut my hair and shave what little I have at a pep rally.

We'll hold ya to that!

[~Pirates Pack a Punch~]

I am so very proud of muh Pirates!

[DevilsWin]

I agree and my son is Thomas Varney. To be compared with any of those teams is a great accomplishment in my book. This team does have a lot of talent ,Heart , and discipline. All the components to be great though.

I bet a 15-0 record might change your mind.:thumpsup:

[SmackDaddy2]

You are right that every team, Russell, Belfry, Bell County, Highlands, etc... , have down years. The rest of it you are wrong about.

If you had followed this team all year you would no what that mental block is. I know for a fact that many of the seniors on this team had talked about losing this game when the playoffs started. They never had the mindset that they were going to go in there and take it to Belfry. It is the same mindset that set in when they got down 22-10 to Ashland. "We are not going to win so why bother".

The toughest part to take is that despite all of the shortcomings this team had enough physical talent. I'm not saying these are bad kids or anything like that. But they do not have the mental toughness or mean streak to take on an uphill battle. That is exactly what they had against Belfry.

I'm not downing anybody for losing a game to a better team.

By the way. I'm watching the Oklahoma/Texas Tech game and its giving me flashbacks to last night. Oklahoma(Belfry) came out with a chip on their shoulder and a point to prove. Texas Tech(Russell) has looked shell shocked from the start and just has no answer for the buzz saw they ran into.

Belfry was without a doubt a better team. That is not disputable. But 42-0 better is.

I have pulled for this group all year long. I have also been critical of them. I'm not just going to blame the kids either. Not by any means am I saying that Coach McGlone or any of the coaching staff can't coach but they have to shoulder some of the blame as well. This team needed an attitude adjustment early on. They didn't get it. I can think of a few kids on the sideline though not as physically talented,may have given this team a boost and some seniors who some time on the bench might have snapped them out of it.

AGREE

[SmackDaddy2]

You can just send me the little one... I'll keep him!! LOL... AND the $20.00 I was gonna give ya last night!! HAHA....You do have some GREAT boys... BUT then again... I'm kinda partial to boys seeing as I have 2 of them myself!!!

Was he the little guy catching passes in the end zone after the game?

[FBALL]

Don't forget 1985. :Cheerlead

Sorry but they were better in 86.

[FBALL]

Good choice of teams but I think this edition of Belfry is much more talented and deeper than the overachieving 2005. Offensively they are similar, but this team is much stronger defensively and have quite a bit more experience and leadership. That 2005 team was one of the most overachieving Belfry teams of All-time and one of Haywood's best coaching jobs. They were a false start away from a State Final and that 2005 Russell game symbolized what that team was all about. Even though Russell was a better and more rounded team, they found a way to hang in there and left it on the field.

The 2003, 2004, and 1986 teams can be evaluated in a few weeks.

I disagree. I thought the 05 team was more physically talented and stronger up front. Maynard was also more of a playmaker than anybody on the current team.

[EKUAlum05]

Hey EKU, if you are in for the game this weekend, come by the press box and say hello.

I'll be sitting right next to it...

[cobra67]

Was he the little guy catching passes in the end zone after the game?

Yes .He was the one with no shoes on. Hes cute but not the brightest bulb in the box LMAO

[cobra67]

I bet a 15-0 record might change your mind.:thumpsup:

I'd say it would but we are a looonngg way from even pondering that point.But we'll see how it plays out.

[TeamMom]

Sorry but they were better in 86.

I don't know the stats, but I know that they did not score any points in the championship game in 1986. However, 1985 was the first time they scored at state. I think it's pretty good. :p

[phs1986]

Yes .He was the one with no shoes on. Hes cute but not the brightest bulb in the box LMAO

We will have NONE of that!! You better not be talking about my baby!!! HAHA.... After all we did come up with a tenative deal last night didn't we??

[phs1986]

In 85 they played Paduach(sp) Tillman and in 86 they played Owensboro and the score was 14-0.

[pitchfork]

well first congrats to belfry you played a good game. that said i have held my tongue all year but its done now and everyone has said all year long there is no leadership on this russell team and they have no heart well i know most of these boys and they have both but the problem with this team isnt leadership and heart it was respect for each other and faith in each other.the senior boys had all of these but they didnt have control of there fate.you put disrespectful juniors in the mix and a coaching staff that will only show faith in one player to lead the team and a complete unwillingness to change and doom is all that is left. #13 #3 #88 #72 are great kids and will never be disrespectful but also dont have the outstanding personality that a casey or a tyler did doesnt mean they had any less heart. It started with coaching this year. they ran the plays they wanted with the players they wanted didnt matter if they worked didnt matter if the kids blocked didnt matter if the kids were disrespectful to other players or even coaches they knew they werent getting pulled out. so hey we can do what ever we have next year to quote one junior. then you get a gift in the form of #44 and what do you do nothing if that kid had been on the line on offense there would have been a hole for #13and#38and#30and#34 or even have him in the back field to help out with carries he would run over people. and why did the coaches waste practice time every week on plays for certain teams only to never actually call them in the game. why not give the qb some options when it comes to the pass when you only have one receiver going out and there are 3to4 guys covering him you cant think this is actually going to work but you cant even look for anyone else because thy are all standing at the line of scrimage just hanging out . my only wish was that for even one half of one game this year these senior boys would have control of there own fate that they could of played there own game with there own plays and the players where they new they would work. that would have been an awsome sight. to the russell faithful i wish you luck in the comming years I hope the coaches get control of the players again and decide they want to be coaches again. to my senior boys I am sorry you didnt get your chance to shine

Totally agree. If the coaches read this. Then maybe it will give them that attitude of winning and nothing less. But on the same note. When you have kids that are uncoachable and no matter what you do they just won't listen. You should tell him to pick splinters.
I've seen kids win a position games ago and every one knows they should be in the starting line up and that kid knows himself and next game might play 2mins if that at all. Our offesive line was terrible but no changes were made and the players know who should be in there.
There was very little excitement from the coaches and Russell coaches are better than this. A player would continually miss his block, lazy out of the huddle, after the block no hustle. For numerous of plays a lineman would not even touch a soul, double team blocks were getting beat,etc.... but still these players would remain on the field??????????
Enough said and vented. Football is over this year time for basketball.
Always a RED DEVIL and will always bleed the MAROON & GOLD

[FBALL]

I don't know the stats, but I know that they did not score any points in the championship game in 1986. However, 1985 was the first time they scored at state. I think it's pretty good. :p

Sorry. I played against both of those teams and 86 was better IMO.

[Buc-a-roo]

Sorry. I played against both of those teams and 86 was better IMO.

I would give 86 the nod too. Both teams were good, but 86 was better. If not for 9 fumbles in the championship game, we would have likely won Belfry's first state championship.

[piratefan989]

I'd say it would but we are a looonngg way from even pondering that point.But we'll see how it plays out.

whats the point?

[kybaseball]

I would give 86 the nod too. Both teams were good, but 86 was better. If not for 9 fumbles in the championship game, we would have likely won Belfry's first state championship.

9 fumbels?:eek: How many points did the other team have? How many drives did they have and did not fumble?

[phs1986]

I would give 86 the nod too. Both teams were good, but 86 was better. If not for 9 fumbles in the championship game, we would have likely won Belfry's first state championship.

WELL.... you played with my hubby!! It IS a small world isn't it!!!

[Buc-a-roo]

9 fumbels?:eek: How many points did the other team have? How many drives did they have and did not fumble?

We lost 14-0 to Owensboro. It could have been a whole lot different.

[Buc-a-roo]

WELL.... you played with my hubby!! It IS a small world isn't it!!!

No, no, I didn't say I played on that team, but I did have somebody really close to me on it.

I used the term "we" as I always do with every Pirate team.

Once a Pirate, Always a Pirate.

[phs1986]

No, no, I didn't say I played on that team, but I did have somebody really close to me on it.

I used the term "we" as I always do with every Pirate team.

Once a Pirate, Always a Pirate.

No you didn't... I guess I need to read IN DEPTH the posts I reply too! LOL....

[Buc-a-roo]

Hey that was a great team, you should be proud of your husband. What number and position was he, if you don't mind saying?

[Devil09]

I respectfully disagree with you.... if Russell couldn't get up for this game when everyone was writing them off against the favorite to win 3A then I would be shocked.

Head coach!

[phs1986]

Hey that was a great team, you should be proud of your husband. What number and position was he, if you don't mind saying?

#75 and I think he played something on defense???

[Beetle01]

Well just glad its over. What little respect I did have for the coaching staff is gone after Ivan told Dave he would not get back in to play after a weak roughing the passer call.

Oh well just glad its over. I figured we would struggle to tackle Belfry.

I would just like to say that of all the players that played all season. I thought Drew Miller played hard on every play and never gave up.

[SmackDaddy2]

Yes .He was the one with no shoes on. Hes cute but not the brightest bulb in the box LMAO

He has great hands though!

[ALWAYSADEVIL]

I normally will not comment on these sites but I feel I need to comment...I am so tired of reading the comments made about the Russell team having no heart. Most of you don't have kids on the team so what you think you know is only hear say...there are a handfull of these kids that have the biggest heart for the game that you will ever know, but when you have students, teachers(yes teachers) and one of your own team captains constantly telling you that you stink and you will be lucky to win any games, it kind of gets you down. And what alot of you don't know is that one of the captains kept telling the boys while on the field friday night that they stink and that he wants to loose. The coaches are aware of this kid and have been aware alllllll year and let it go so long that it almost came to blows on friday. There has been only jelousy from this kid all year and like someone else said, it spreads like a cancer. but what can you expect when you dont come to practice for a week at a time and the expect to be played as much as the ones that show up sick, hurt etc.I feel the coaching staff should take most of the blame on how this year turned out because they were fully aware of the problem and did nothing to my knowledge to correct it. I have always had respect for the coaching staff but this year I have been let down. You have to instill some disipline, you cant let a kid cuss you out and turn the other cheek, which happened several times this year. This one boy disrespected his entire team, coaches and community on Friday. If you knew the whole story you wouldn't believe it. he cussed everyone from the trainer to coach Mcglone.:mad:

[ryanparker]

I normally will not comment on these sites but I feel I need to comment...I am so tired of reading the comments made about the Russell team having no heart. Most of you don't have kids on the team so what you think you know is only hear say...there are a handfull of these kids that have the biggest heart for the game that you will ever know, but when you have students, teachers(yes teachers) and one of your own team captains constantly telling you that you stink and you will be lucky to win any games, it kind of gets you down. And what alot of you don't know is that one of the captains kept telling the boys while on the field friday night that they stink and that he wants to loose. The coaches are aware of this kid and have been aware alllllll year and let it go so long that it almost came to blows on friday. There has been only jelousy from this kid all year and like someone else said, it spreads like a cancer. but what can you expect when you dont come to practice for a week at a time and the expect to be played as much as the ones that show up sick, hurt etc.I feel the coaching staff should take most of the blame on how this year turned out because they were fully aware of the problem and did nothing to my knowledge to correct it. I have always had respect for the coaching staff but this year I have been let down. You have to instill some disipline, you cant let a kid cuss you out and turn the other cheek, which happened several times this year. This one boy disrespected his entire team, coaches and community on Friday. If you knew the whole story you wouldn't believe it. he cussed everyone from the trainer to coach Mcglone.:mad:

You're right in that most of us have no knowledge of what went on this year. Just as an observer of what happened on the field, it was clear that something was wrong, though. The team never seemed cohesive. If a single player was truly the source of all this, then you would think something could have been done either by the coaches or the players. What a shame. This team didn't have the talent to beat Belfry, but I think they had good enough talent to come closer than 42. You are right in that one bad apple can spoil the bushel. It's just too bad something wasn't done about it.

[DevilsWin]

I normally will not comment on these sites but I feel I need to comment...I am so tired of reading the comments made about the Russell team having no heart. Most of you don't have kids on the team so what you think you know is only hear say...there are a handfull of these kids that have the biggest heart for the game that you will ever know, but when you have students, teachers(yes teachers) and one of your own team captains constantly telling you that you stink and you will be lucky to win any games, it kind of gets you down. And what alot of you don't know is that one of the captains kept telling the boys while on the field friday night that they stink and that he wants to loose. The coaches are aware of this kid and have been aware alllllll year and let it go so long that it almost came to blows on friday. There has been only jelousy from this kid all year and like someone else said, it spreads like a cancer. but what can you expect when you dont come to practice for a week at a time and the expect to be played as much as the ones that show up sick, hurt etc.I feel the coaching staff should take most of the blame on how this year turned out because they were fully aware of the problem and did nothing to my knowledge to correct it. I have always had respect for the coaching staff but this year I have been let down. You have to instill some disipline, you cant let a kid cuss you out and turn the other cheek, which happened several times this year. This one boy disrespected his entire team, coaches and community on Friday. If you knew the whole story you wouldn't believe it. he cussed everyone from the trainer to coach Mcglone.:mad:

There have been many troubled kids that were tollerated in the past and that's gonna happen.

What I want to know is. Without mentioning names and/or numbers what was this "sideline situation" I keep hearing about. Everyone's tip-toeing around this "Incident". So what happened.

We all probably already could accurately guess Who it was already. Just what happened or what was said. No need to name names. Just give it to us straight.