12-18-2007, 12:13 AM
vundy33 Wrote:I still don't see why this thread hasn't been closed yet...why are we still talking about this?cause it's a interesting topic
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12-18-2007, 12:14 AM
RammsteinFan92 Wrote:THANK YOU VERY FREAKING MUCH I HAVE I'VE WATHCED LIKE 6 HOURS OF MOVIES ON THIS.....
Woah, you like, watch like, 6 hours of like, movies on this? When you get old enough to watch an R-rated movie then come back and try to talk politics.
12-18-2007, 12:14 AM
post after post... why do you keep ignoring posts 51, 52, 53? rammy?
12-18-2007, 12:19 AM
vundy33 Wrote:. IMO you are committing treason
Its not just your opinion... or an opinion at all to be perfectly honestly. just another in a series of facts he chooses to ignore.
12-18-2007, 12:20 AM
The NRO, which works closely with the Dept. of Defense and CIA, had planned a simulated exercise in which a small jet âcrashesâ into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. The government said it was a âbizarre coincidenceâ that one of the most important U.S. intelligence agencies had planned a mock plane-into-building crash on Sept. 11, according to the Associated Press who reported the story on August 22.
NRO headquarters are in Chantilly, Virginia, about 4 miles from the runways of Dulles airport.
The secretive NRO was created in 1960 and oversees the nationâs spy satellites for reconnaissance and defense purposes. For the first 32 years the U.S. government even denied its existence. The NRO recruits personnel from the military and the Central Intelligence Agency and has a budget that is estimated to equal the combined budgets of both the CIA and the National Security Agency.
The director of the NRO (DNRO) reports directly to the Secretary of Defense and the director of the CIA. On 11 September 2001 the NRO director was Keith R. Hall, who had headed the agency since 1996. As DNRO, Hall was responsible for the acquisition and operation of all United States space-based reconnaissance and intelligence systems. Hall also served as Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Space until December 8, 2001 when Peter B. Teets replaced Hall in both positions.
Hall had joined the Pentagon during the administration of Bush the elder, as deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence and security, where he remained into the Clinton administration, until then CIA Director John M. Deutch brought him to the CIA. Hall crafted Deutchâs plan to create a new spy bureaucracy in the Pentagon, the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) by merging the CIAâs center for interpreting spy satellite imagery with the Defense Mapping Agency.
âAs Director, NRO, I have responsibility for the design, acquisition, and operations of all the nation's reconnaissance satellites, reporting to the Secretary of Defense and the Director of Central Intelligence,â Hall told the Senate subcommittee on strategic forces in 1999.
The fact that the NRO had planned a scenario on 9/11 that was remarkably similar to what actually happened exposes the lie by some senior administration officials who claimed the events of 9/11 had not been foreseen.
The âbizarre co-incidenceâ between the planned exercise and the grim reality suggests that the âgameâ was hijacked by unknown agents who overlaid it with a lethal scheme in the same way that former Israeli prime minister, Yitzhak Rabin, was assassinated during what was meant to be a security exercise.
The existence of the NROâs pre-planned plane-attack simulation was first revealed in an announcement of a recent National Law Enforcement and Security Institute conference in Chicago. In a promotion for speaker John Fulton, a CIA officer assigned as chief of NROâs strategic gaming division, the announcement read: âOn the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team ... were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day.â
It was American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 767, which took off from Dulles at 8:10 a.m., 50 minutes before the NRO exercise was to begin, that reportedly struck the Pentagon on Sept. 11. The Pentagon was hit between 9:30 and 9:40 a.m. with 125 deaths on the ground and 64 reported on the plane.
The NRO scenario was planned to test employeesâ ability to respond to a disaster, according to Art Haubold, spokesman for the agency. No actual plane was to be involved. To simulate the damage from the crash, some stairwells and exits were to be closed off, forcing employees to find other ways to evacuate the building. Haubold told AFP that is was meant to be a âmake believeâ drill, âlike the fire drills we did as kids in school.â
AFP asked Haubold why NROâs staff was sent home when there was no apparent imminent danger. Haubold said NRO employees had been sent home as federal workers in Washington had. A spokesperson at NIMA in Bethesda, Md., however, told AFP that NIMA personnel had remained on the job on 9/11. NIMA is headed by Lt. Gen. James R. Clapper (USAF Ret.).
Asked about how many people at the Dept. of Defense and CIA had been made aware of the planned exercise, Haubold said that the Pentagon and the CIA were aware of the drill, which he called a âcontingency responseâ test. Pentagon spokesman Ken McClellan could not say whether Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was aware of the exercise at NRO. However, regarding the threat of an airplane attack at the Pentagon or the World Trade Center, McClellan said, âpeople were prescient.â
NRO headquarters are in Chantilly, Virginia, about 4 miles from the runways of Dulles airport.
The secretive NRO was created in 1960 and oversees the nationâs spy satellites for reconnaissance and defense purposes. For the first 32 years the U.S. government even denied its existence. The NRO recruits personnel from the military and the Central Intelligence Agency and has a budget that is estimated to equal the combined budgets of both the CIA and the National Security Agency.
The director of the NRO (DNRO) reports directly to the Secretary of Defense and the director of the CIA. On 11 September 2001 the NRO director was Keith R. Hall, who had headed the agency since 1996. As DNRO, Hall was responsible for the acquisition and operation of all United States space-based reconnaissance and intelligence systems. Hall also served as Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Space until December 8, 2001 when Peter B. Teets replaced Hall in both positions.
Hall had joined the Pentagon during the administration of Bush the elder, as deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence and security, where he remained into the Clinton administration, until then CIA Director John M. Deutch brought him to the CIA. Hall crafted Deutchâs plan to create a new spy bureaucracy in the Pentagon, the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA) by merging the CIAâs center for interpreting spy satellite imagery with the Defense Mapping Agency.
âAs Director, NRO, I have responsibility for the design, acquisition, and operations of all the nation's reconnaissance satellites, reporting to the Secretary of Defense and the Director of Central Intelligence,â Hall told the Senate subcommittee on strategic forces in 1999.
The fact that the NRO had planned a scenario on 9/11 that was remarkably similar to what actually happened exposes the lie by some senior administration officials who claimed the events of 9/11 had not been foreseen.
The âbizarre co-incidenceâ between the planned exercise and the grim reality suggests that the âgameâ was hijacked by unknown agents who overlaid it with a lethal scheme in the same way that former Israeli prime minister, Yitzhak Rabin, was assassinated during what was meant to be a security exercise.
The existence of the NROâs pre-planned plane-attack simulation was first revealed in an announcement of a recent National Law Enforcement and Security Institute conference in Chicago. In a promotion for speaker John Fulton, a CIA officer assigned as chief of NROâs strategic gaming division, the announcement read: âOn the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team ... were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day.â
It was American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 767, which took off from Dulles at 8:10 a.m., 50 minutes before the NRO exercise was to begin, that reportedly struck the Pentagon on Sept. 11. The Pentagon was hit between 9:30 and 9:40 a.m. with 125 deaths on the ground and 64 reported on the plane.
The NRO scenario was planned to test employeesâ ability to respond to a disaster, according to Art Haubold, spokesman for the agency. No actual plane was to be involved. To simulate the damage from the crash, some stairwells and exits were to be closed off, forcing employees to find other ways to evacuate the building. Haubold told AFP that is was meant to be a âmake believeâ drill, âlike the fire drills we did as kids in school.â
AFP asked Haubold why NROâs staff was sent home when there was no apparent imminent danger. Haubold said NRO employees had been sent home as federal workers in Washington had. A spokesperson at NIMA in Bethesda, Md., however, told AFP that NIMA personnel had remained on the job on 9/11. NIMA is headed by Lt. Gen. James R. Clapper (USAF Ret.).
Asked about how many people at the Dept. of Defense and CIA had been made aware of the planned exercise, Haubold said that the Pentagon and the CIA were aware of the drill, which he called a âcontingency responseâ test. Pentagon spokesman Ken McClellan could not say whether Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was aware of the exercise at NRO. However, regarding the threat of an airplane attack at the Pentagon or the World Trade Center, McClellan said, âpeople were prescient.â
12-18-2007, 12:21 AM
Redneck Wrote:it's not only that i'm reading offical stuffWatchin movies like "Loose Change" ain't gonna help ya out any...
12-18-2007, 12:22 AM
vundy33 Wrote:Woah, you like, watch like, 6 hours of like, movies on this? When you get old enough to watch an R-rated movie then come back and try to talk politics.i tired of peoples jokes about my age.....
12-18-2007, 12:23 AM
ronald_reagan Wrote:post after post... why do you keep ignoring posts 51, 52, 53? rammy?i seen them.....though there were metal at the sight there should've been more
12-18-2007, 12:23 AM
post after post.
the silence is deafening. huh? did you say something... nevermind.
the silence is deafening. huh? did you say something... nevermind.
12-18-2007, 12:23 AM
vundy33 Wrote:Stop copying and pasting. Any 15 yr old that gets on a public forum and makes himself look stupid can do that.where the **** do u want me to get my info
12-18-2007, 12:28 AM
RammsteinFan92 Wrote:i seen them.....though there were metal at the sight there should've been more
you saw all the witnesses and there statements, including reporters?
you saw the 'small hole' (the width of the jet is 13 feet... ), which is a LITTLE bit smiler than the gash in the Pentagon.... ???
you saw the lack of fire because of the missle (which doesn't create fire)?
The photos of the bodies? http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecase...ution.html
How about the jet engines, or the jets wheels that were found?
The black boxes that weren't found, *(but were)?
WITNESS PROTECTION PROGRAM!!!!!!
12-18-2007, 12:29 AM
vundy33 Wrote:Disrespect...disrespecting the people that died that day, their families and friends. There is NO question whether or not this happened or it didn't.I know it happend.....the question is was did the goverment have anything to do with it????
12-18-2007, 12:29 AM
RammsteinFan92 Wrote:where the **** do u want me to get my info
Me.
12-18-2007, 12:30 AM
vundy33 Wrote:Me is reptar here I roar!!!...
Learn to use correct punctuation.
LMAO...
I agree with your post before this one. It is very disrespectful and if I was a family member of one of those who were lost durin the tragedies of 9/11 I would be raisin all kinds of ****.
12-18-2007, 12:31 AM
RammsteinFan92 Wrote:I know it happend.....the question is was did the goverment have anything to do with it????
The government can't even adminster social security... or Katrina clean-up... or the Iraq war... or its own budget!!!!!
But Bush and his buds planned this out so flawlessly...
not 1 leak?
no one shred of evidence?
This keeps getting better...
12-18-2007, 12:33 AM
rammy = :igiveup:
RammsteinFan92 Wrote:I know it happend.....the question is was did the goverment have anything to do with it????
12-18-2007, 12:33 AM
My cousin was killed in the World Trade on 9/11, I've been obsessed with conspiracy theories, and believed that it was one, but just from this last page, my mind may be changed. I'm going to go back and read every post in a while, but does anyone have an explanation as to why there were no parts of the plane or bodies in the open field?
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12-18-2007, 12:34 AM
BFritz Wrote:My cousin was killed in the World Trade on 9/11, I've been obsessed with conspiracy theories, and believed that it was one, but just from this last page, my mind may be changed. I'm going to go back and read every post in a while, but does anyone have an explanation as to why there were no parts of the plane or bodies in the open field?no....they don't.......
12-18-2007, 12:35 AM
Redneck Wrote:Make up your mind kid. You said a plane DIDN'T hit the Pentagon, now you say you know it happened.I MEANT THE 9/11 Attacks Not The Pentagon Thing
12-18-2007, 12:37 AM
ronald_reagan Wrote:The government can't even adminster social security... or Katrina clean-up... or the Iraq war... or its own budget!!!!!there are leaks did you read the article i posted about NRO????......Bush Didn't neccaserly have to know aobut the plans!
But Bush and his buds planned this out so flawlessly...
not 1 leak?
no one shred of evidence?
This keeps getting better...
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