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02-05-2007, 09:29 PM
bigE, You don't know nothing. Coach brought Powell from leading the state in personal fouls to not even getting any. He also brought the biggest group and best group of players out.
02-05-2007, 09:59 PM
It's been over a week and there hasn't been much talk of whether Whitaker is any closer or further away from becoming a Pirate??? Any new news??
02-05-2007, 10:11 PM
you obviously dont know your history, maybe they did lead the state in personal fouls but they were also among the leaders in alot of stats....the DB's were ranked 2nd in the state in passing defense, and your numbers were no better the past few years. im not saying he's a bad coach all im saying is he wasn't the best. i would rather have a group of kids who get the occasional personal foul than have kids who were afraid to hit, and that bunch was not afraid to hit and every team they played knew. they were the toughest kids i'd ever seen and that was the best team, not too mention they still have the school record for wins
02-06-2007, 05:02 PM
bigE Wrote:you obviously dont know your history, maybe they did lead the state in personal fouls but they were also among the leaders in alot of stats....the DB's were ranked 2nd in the state in passing defense, and your numbers were no better the past few years. im not saying he's a bad coach all im saying is he wasn't the best. i would rather have a group of kids who get the occasional personal foul than have kids who were afraid to hit, and that bunch was not afraid to hit and every team they played knew. they were the toughest kids i'd ever seen and that was the best team, not too mention they still have the school record for winsI don't know who you are but only one coach had a tie season at powell. Coach Jones Has 3 state champs rings. One of them was one he played in. Within two years of him being in powell. Had a Dfence that was 1 in the state for 4 week in a role. Then he had the 1 rushing offense inthe state for 3 weeks. Know each other coach has done that?
02-06-2007, 06:18 PM
you might want to check your stats buddy in 98 coach posey went 5-5, and no he didn't have the number 1 anything the whole time he was there, defense or offense..i think your thinking about number 1 in the district not the state.
02-06-2007, 06:30 PM
Big E and Daddy#62, in comparing coaches, you have to look at a lot of criteria and it is not fair in a lot of situations, especially at Powell Co. Bruce Reynolds had the nerve and the guts to start a program from scratch there. We played them the 1st or 2nd year of varsity football. He had his hands full and it took a lot of hard work to do what he did. Tom Posey did a great job there as well. If I'm not mistaken he still has the best single season record. I do not recall Phillip Stockdale but I do remember Dave Collins. Tom Posey had a couple of great assistants but the only one I remember is Coach Dayne Brown. Each coach had their good points and bad and each had different support both in and out of the school. The districts each were in, needs to be considered as well. Every coach that has been at Powell has brought and left something (good and bad). The overall program needs to be considered as well from the structure, to the up keep (program & facilities), to the performance just to name a few. "IF" Mike Whitaker gets or takes this job I believe he will have the first winning season but again should you compare him to Bruce Reynolds who had to play Danville and Lex Cath, or Tom Posey that had to play Belfry, Pike Central, Johnson Central, etc., or Doug Martin or Bruce Jones that had to play Russell & Fleming & East/West Carter? I'm hoping that any coach that takes this job will have support from the new administration and that the fact the state dept. (supposedly coming in next year) is not going to hinder their ability to get the job done on the field. Those are tough situations if you are a teacher but when you are both teacher and coach it can be disastrous. Hats off to all of the coaches and players that came before and best of luck to the new coach, players and program.
02-06-2007, 06:38 PM
tom posey does have the single season win record, and his head assistant was phillip stockdale, and dayne brown came in a year later, but didn't do much. bruce reynolds in my opinion is the best coach powell had because he had the most pressure and he was let go with a number of other coaches at the same time. dave collins was good to but he was limited with what he could do, he was a great baseball coach though. the danvilles and lex catholics were alot tougher than what they are playing now, with the exception of russell...posey took them to their first ever playoff appearance in 97, so something should be said for that.
02-06-2007, 06:46 PM
I agree. I am not taking away anything from any of the guys you mentioned. They all have had an impact on the program. I am not sure how old that program actually is, (15-16 yrs?), but I believe that until the cycle begins to where the players daddy's played it is going to be tough to build a solid program. Look at all the great programs. The players fathers and in some instances grand fathers and great grand fathers have played football and most of the time for that same school. They know what it takes and instill that in their kids. Again, could not agree with you more bigE, about Coach Reynolds and Posey but I do believe every player and every coach has laid another run on the foundation needed to get the program over the hump. Again, Best wishes for the new coach, the players and the program.
02-07-2007, 01:35 AM
I heard that Coach Jones has put back in for head coach for Powell Co. So maybe since Mr. Smith has resigned as principal we will have more support for our team. If they give Coach Jones the spot back they won't have to worry.
02-08-2007, 01:58 AM
Good Luck to Coach Jones and Powell County, regardless of the outcome of the coaching situation. Coach Jones is a good man and I feel can do well given the support!
02-08-2007, 02:44 AM
i hope he goes somewhere he is wanted, i heard the only reason he ended back at powell the first time was because the other coach quit a couple of weeks before the season and they had no other choice.
02-08-2007, 03:27 AM
the atheletic director at powell has finally decided to bring in a football coach to that has built programs and can build a program at powell. I applaud the administration on going after a coach like Whitaker. This makes a statement that they are going to make an all out effort to turn the football prgram around. Your right bigE, stockdale was a great motivator and coach. coach Reynolds had the misfortune of being in the toughest district in the state. im just glad to see the administration do the right thing and get a true football coach at Powell co.
02-08-2007, 03:28 AM
i agree they need ressurection like ive never seen before and i hope he can do it
02-08-2007, 03:39 AM
Daddy #62 Wrote:I don't know who you are but only one coach had a tie season at powell. Coach Jones Has 3 state champs rings. One of them was one he played in. Within two years of him being in powell. Had a Dfence that was 1 in the state for 4 week in a role. Then he had the 1 rushing offense inthe state for 3 weeks. Know each other coach has done that?I'm not being negative but i will be realistic here. powell never had the best defense in the state or district ever. they have given up approximately 400 points the past couple seasons. you cant blame the players for that. if they were taught any basic fudamental defense at all that would never happen. a turn around for Powell is comming and the only thing they can do is get better.
02-08-2007, 03:46 AM
Whitaker has won every where he has been. if he is the coach powell gets its first winning season in the next 4 years or even sooner. the kids will play for a coach like whitaker. every athelete in that school will come out and play for a coach who coached Tim Couch. wont be any more of this dressing 18 to 20 kids on game night.
if powell gets Whitaker i bet theyll dress 50 kids or better. kids will play for a guy like that.
if powell gets Whitaker i bet theyll dress 50 kids or better. kids will play for a guy like that.
02-08-2007, 03:51 AM
CoachB Wrote:Good Luck to Coach Jones and Powell County, regardless of the outcome of the coaching situation. Coach Jones is a good man and I feel can do well given the support!
Good post :Thumbs:
02-08-2007, 04:28 AM
MR.PERFECT Wrote:I'm not being negative but i will be realistic here. powell never had the best defense in the state or district ever. they have given up approximately 400 points the past couple seasons. you cant blame the players for that. if they were taught any basic fudamental defense at all that would never happen. a turn around for Powell is comming and the only thing they can do is get better.
I telling the truth it was all over the clay city times and not to say i was on that team. Now say we wasn't the number 1 deffence in the state for 4 weeks in a row and the number 1 rushing offence in the state. The offence is true for sure because i was the left guard on that line. Look it up. 05-06 season
02-08-2007, 11:39 AM
i wouldnt rely on the clay city times for my information if i were you
02-08-2007, 12:18 PM
Daddy #62 Wrote:I telling the truth it was all over the clay city times and not to say i was on that team. Now say we wasn't the number 1 deffence in the state for 4 weeks in a row and the number 1 rushing offence in the state. The offence is true for sure because i was the left guard on that line. Look it up. 05-06 season
I looked up some stats for you. In 06 Powell gave up 438 points while scoring 126. In 05 Powell gave up 220 points while scoring 130. That does not add up to the best defense or offense at all.
Powell was next to last in the region in 06 just edging out North Oldham. In 05 Powell was 10th in the region out of 14 teams.
The elite teams in region 3 in 06 were as follows:
Mercer scoring 760 and giving up 140 while finishing with a 15-0 record.
Russell scoring 585 and giving up 142 while finishing with a 13-2 record.
Fleming scoring 388 and giving up 229 while finishing with a 8-4 record.
Newport scoring 248 and giving up 152 while finishing with a 8-4 record.
The elite teams in Region 3 in 05 were as follows:
Russell scoring 565 and giving up 261 while finishing with a 14-1 record.
Newport scoring 541 and giving up 288 while finishing with a 11-2 record.
Mercer scoring 419 and giving up 248 while finishing with a 10-2 record
East Carter scoring 337 and giving up 214 while finishing with a 8-4 record.
02-08-2007, 12:23 PM
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02-08-2007, 12:25 PM
finally some real stats!!! i would love to see what the stats said in the clay city times
02-08-2007, 12:45 PM
I'm not taking up for him, but he was stating that they had the top rated defense in the state for the first four games of the season. I actually believe that, because I remember watching the news that year and during sport it was stated that Powell had the #1 defense in the state. That was only the first four weeks. It went way down hill after that. I do remember that. i would love it if someone could help me find that info.
02-08-2007, 12:49 PM
it may be in the lexington herald archives if you just know the date it came out, which would be kinda hard to narrow down but maybe
02-08-2007, 12:52 PM
JustTrying Wrote:I'm not taking up for him, but he was stating that they had the top rated defense in the state for the first four games of the season. I actually believe that, because I remember watching the news that year and during sport it was stated that Powell had the #1 defense in the state. That was only the first four weeks. It went way down hill after that. I do remember that. i would love it if someone could help me find that info.
What year are you talking about. In 06 they went 1-3 the first 4 games being outscored 129-72
02-08-2007, 12:54 PM
Now in 05 they went 3-1 the first 4 games. But I would have to say they were not the top defense by the 4th game of the year. If I remember correctly Russell was up 21-0 within the first 3 minutes of the game.
02-08-2007, 12:56 PM
Sorry. My mistake on the 05 game. That was the 04 game I was thinking about.
02-08-2007, 12:57 PM
Powell County
2005 Kentucky High School Football
Have a score we don't have? Call it in to 1-800-715-8388.
Coach: Bruce Jones
Class: AA
Region: 3
District: 6
Latest Stats Report: October 26, 2005
DATE
OPPONENT
SITE
SCORE
Aug 20, '05 Berea Berea 14 - 6 (W)
Aug 26, '05 Betsy Layne Powell County 40 - 6 (W)
Sep 2, '05 Phelps 20 - 0 (W)
Sep 9, '05 Open -
Sep 16, '05 Russell Powell County 12 - 42 (L)
Sep 23, '05 West Carter Powell County 6 - 26 (L)
Sep 30, '05 Morgan County Morgan County 0 - 36 (L)
Oct 6, '05 Fleming County Powell County 6 - 42 (L)
Oct 14, '05 East Carter East Carter 0 - 42 (L)
Oct 21, '05 Lewis County Powell County 4 - 6 (L)
Oct 28, '05 Estill County Estill County 28 - 14 (W)
Schedule and scores last updated at Oct 28, 2005 11:24pm
2005 Kentucky High School Football
Have a score we don't have? Call it in to 1-800-715-8388.
Coach: Bruce Jones
Class: AA
Region: 3
District: 6
Latest Stats Report: October 26, 2005
DATE
OPPONENT
SITE
SCORE
Aug 20, '05 Berea Berea 14 - 6 (W)
Aug 26, '05 Betsy Layne Powell County 40 - 6 (W)
Sep 2, '05 Phelps 20 - 0 (W)
Sep 9, '05 Open -
Sep 16, '05 Russell Powell County 12 - 42 (L)
Sep 23, '05 West Carter Powell County 6 - 26 (L)
Sep 30, '05 Morgan County Morgan County 0 - 36 (L)
Oct 6, '05 Fleming County Powell County 6 - 42 (L)
Oct 14, '05 East Carter East Carter 0 - 42 (L)
Oct 21, '05 Lewis County Powell County 4 - 6 (L)
Oct 28, '05 Estill County Estill County 28 - 14 (W)
Schedule and scores last updated at Oct 28, 2005 11:24pm
02-08-2007, 01:03 PM
they obviously dont weigh-in strength of schedule on the stats huh?
02-08-2007, 01:21 PM
JustTrying Wrote:I'm not taking up for him, but he was stating that they had the top rated defense in the state for the first four games of the season. I actually believe that, because I remember watching the news that year and during sport it was stated that Powell had the #1 defense in the state. That was only the first four weeks. It went way down hill after that. I do remember that. i would love it if someone could help me find that info.
They had the top rated defense in the state until the JFL part of their schedule ended.
02-08-2007, 01:24 PM
jfl!!!haha i actually played jfl thats funny
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