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01-24-2007, 12:50 PM
TRIPLE J Wrote:I agree that the game was not ugly at all, SF seems to step up and push PHS every year in both b-ball and f-ball. I will say that I am disappointed in the protection that is afforded to L.Slone, if he misses a shot or loses the ball and anyone is within his comfort zone, then you can count on a whistle to be blown! E. Johnsons steal and subsequent mugging that followed was a big momentum shift, should have been 2 free throws and the ball for SF late in the 4th, but I'm still not clear why the shriek of basketball sneaker would eliminate that play and put the ball back at halfcourt? Oh well, I hope M. Hall enjoys his time at the track this weekend or with some of his calls he may be planning a big bonus for the riverboat!
Didn't see it....Slone is very very good at drawing contact. but you act as if he went to the FT line 20 times??
01-24-2007, 01:48 PM
This was to close. Congrats paintsville.. But i was really thinking this was be a blow out.
01-24-2007, 02:06 PM
Great game to watch...Hated to see SF come up short, but dang if they didn't put up a good fight! The Raiders played like defending tournament champions and not a team mired in a 3-13 season. Glad to see SF putting out that kind of all-out effort. Hold your head up Lyle, you're a good ballplayer and all of you guys gave it your best and that's all that can be asked.
Paintsville played hard like all BMR teams do. Great game for Landon and a balanced scoring effort. BMR did all he could to keep his boys settled down when SF started their frantic style of play and in the end, it worked for them. Again though, the Tigers left the door open for SF in the end, the Raiders just didn't have the gas in the tank at the end...boys had to be tired after playing so hard all night.
The semi's with Pikeville/Paintsville will be great along with whoever comes up from the bottom bracket.
Paintsville played hard like all BMR teams do. Great game for Landon and a balanced scoring effort. BMR did all he could to keep his boys settled down when SF started their frantic style of play and in the end, it worked for them. Again though, the Tigers left the door open for SF in the end, the Raiders just didn't have the gas in the tank at the end...boys had to be tired after playing so hard all night.
The semi's with Pikeville/Paintsville will be great along with whoever comes up from the bottom bracket.
01-24-2007, 02:09 PM
How many 3's did SF attempt and make? B/c I know they took alot and made a majority of them. They got very hot there in the 1st half which got them back into the game.
01-24-2007, 02:26 PM
Johnny Fairplay Wrote:I also thought that is what EKY was saying. I was only asking might he be saying they were outcoached. I thought the Coach controlled the way a team played because if you ask me when a player doesn't do what the coach says then they sit the bench until they understand what the coach is asking them to do. Coaches use timeouts to advise the team to not shoot so many 3s, work the ball inside, step up the D or someone on the bench that wants to will play. But according to you a Coach is only a babysitter.
I agree somewhat with your assessments. The problem is finding a benchplayer who can come in to contribute to win the game. Also, playing perimeter defense is something the TIgers can't do anyway, so having the Coach ask them to do it is a waste of a timeout.
If you thought he was saying Coach Runyon was outcoached, then that is what you think -- I can handle that, fair enough.
01-24-2007, 02:32 PM
The Guru Wrote:Didn't see it....Slone is very very good at drawing contact. but you act as if he went to the FT line 20 times??
Exactly GURU.
Landon doesn't miss many shots, and he doesn't lose the ball much. If I was a bettin' man, I'd say when he misses a shot or loses the ball then there is a good chance he did get fouled.
Good players have an ability to draw contact -- Landon is one of the best at it. Few players can keep a pivot foot like Landon can, and it throws opponents off guard.
01-24-2007, 04:00 PM
I witnessed quite a few shots L.Slone missed. I was basing alot on my observations over the past couple of years, he has spent a great deal of time on the line. Others that try to "draw" contact typically get a 50/50 shot of whether it will be an offensive foul. Last night on at least two occasions the dropped shoulder to run over the defender led to baskets, trust me I like to watch games in other regions and the only other person that comes close to those kinds of breaks is the Stepp kid at JBS. These two have a great deal of similarities- mostly that the offense runs through them and they get more shots at improving their stats. PHS is loaded with some talent, but it seems that most of the other guys end up watching the offense and getting lost in the shuffle.
01-24-2007, 04:10 PM
TRIPLE J Wrote:I witnessed quite a few shots L.Slone missed. I was basing alot on my observations over the past couple of years, he has spent a great deal of time on the line. Others that try to "draw" contact typically get a 50/50 shot of whether it will be an offensive foul. Last night on at least two occasions the dropped shoulder to run over the defender led to baskets, trust me I like to watch games in other regions and the only other person that comes close to those kinds of breaks is the Stepp kid at JBS. These two have a great deal of similarities- mostly that the offense runs through them and they get more shots at improving their stats. PHS is loaded with some talent, but it seems that most of the other guys end up watching the offense and getting lost in the shuffle.
I understand what you are saying.
As far as the above boldened statement is concerned, I also understand, but feel like you may be blaming this on Landon or the gameplan in general. The fact is at Paintsville, every player has an equally essential role in the offense -- from the time I used to watch PHS practice as a little boy, till when I played for them, till now, I have never seen an offense set up just for one player.
This type of offense allows players to play basketball, rather than have to rely on "point A, point B" schematics -- often times, the best players tend to be the ones who score. This is similar to Bobby Knight basketball, where he runs a motion offense not designed for on particular person.
Have a good day Triple J, I have to go learn about litigating Contracts.
01-24-2007, 08:44 PM
.B.A.L.L.I.N. Wrote:This was not a very pretty game!
South Floyd, keep your heads up!
Congrats Tigers on the victory and good luck on Friday.
I couldn't have said it better my self
01-24-2007, 11:37 PM
Johnny Fairplay Wrote:Might you be saying that BMR got out coached tonight but had enough talent to get the win.
I was not saying that BMR got outcoached at all. That doesn't mean that I don't believe that he could sometimes try harder to settle the Tigers down, but then I'm not in the huddle during TO's and can't say that he doesn't. But what I meant in the post was that SF played great when they came at the Tigers with their 3 point shooting attack, but the Tigers felt that they had to respond in kind and unfortunately for the Tigers they didn't hit as many. The Tigers needed to stick to the game plan and go inside more, step up perimeter D on SF and let them try to shoot all of the 3's they wanted. I think that this would have kept SF from keeping it close. As it worked out, SF was very close (one or two 3 pointers) at the end to winning the game. The Tigers were lucky!
01-24-2007, 11:39 PM
The Governor Wrote:I understand what you are saying.
As far as the above boldened statement is concerned, I also understand, but feel like you may be blaming this on Landon or the gameplan in general. The fact is at Paintsville, every player has an equally essential role in the offense -- from the time I used to watch PHS practice as a little boy, till when I played for them, till now, I have never seen an offense set up just for one player.
This type of offense allows players to play basketball, rather than have to rely on "point A, point B" schematics -- often times, the best players tend to be the ones who score. This is similar to Bobby Knight basketball, where he runs a motion offense not designed for on particular person.
Have a good day Triple J, I have to go learn about litigating Contracts.
Although not a die hard tiger fan I have watched them for years here and there dating back to John Pelphery. I would completely agree with Gov that PHS runs an offense where everyone has the chance to score and the best players and scores find a way to get baskets. I watched a game against I think Brewbaker, Ala. and in the first half Slone picked up 3 fouls and the Tigers where in a very close game and I though the Ala team would pull away with Slone out of the game but the other Tigers picked it up and Meade played great off the bench and the Tigers won a blow out game. I would also say that Landon Slone is the best at getting to the free throw line, he knows how to get to the basket and either score or get fouled.
01-24-2007, 11:41 PM
TRIPLE J Wrote:I agree that the game was not ugly at all, SF seems to step up and push PHS every year in both b-ball and f-ball.
Trust me, the game was ugly as far as Paintsville Tiger basketball was concerned. The Tigers played very poorly in executing a game plan. In fact you could see the frustration on BMR's face all during the game. As far as SF is concerned, I'm sure the game was not ugly, because SF came to play and played perhaps one of the best games all year.
01-24-2007, 11:43 PM
Johnny Fairplay Wrote:I would completely agree with Gov that PHS runs an offense where everyone has the chance to score and the best players and scores find a way to get baskets. I watched a game against I think Brewbaker, Ala. and in the first half Slone picked up 3 fouls and the Tigers where in a very close game and I though the Ala team would pull away with Slone out of the game but the other Tigers picked it up and Meade played great off the bench and the Tigers won a blow out game. I would also say that Landon Slone is the best at getting to the free throw line, he knows how to get to the basket and either score or get fouled.
:thumpsup: Well said!
01-24-2007, 11:44 PM
EKY Sportster Wrote:I was not saying that BMR got outcoached at all. That doesn't mean that I don't believe that he could sometimes try harder to settle the Tigers down, but then I'm not in the huddle during TO's and can't say that he doesn't. But what I meant in the post was that SF played great when they came at the Tigers with their 3 point shooting attack, but the Tigers felt that they had to respond in kind and unfortunately for the Tigers they didn't hit as many. The Tigers needed to stick to the game plan and go inside more, step up perimeter D on SF and let them try to shoot all of the 3's they wanted. I think that this would have kept SF from keeping it close. As it worked out, SF was very close (one or two 3 pointers) at the end to winning the game. The Tigers were lucky!
Sorry, that was just they way I read it but I understand what you are saying. I also was not trying to say he got out coached I was just say that the Coach does have SOME control of his team and their actions. Personally, I think BMR has proved year in and out that he is a great coach.
01-25-2007, 12:47 AM
CONGRATS PAINTSVILLE
01-25-2007, 12:56 AM
Great game to both teams. BUT whats new Paintsville lowered their game to the compition! This better have been a news flash for them.
01-25-2007, 01:01 AM
I do know at Halftime the lead was 5 pts for the tigers and the FT's where 6/9 for the tigers and the Raiders 0/0, at the end of the 3rd the Tigers where 8/11 from the line and the Raiders where 0/0. that might be the reason some people say that they got some calls. I watch a great game with great calls until 1:30 to go in the game and the refs stopped blowing their whistles on the SF end and like basketballonlyfan said if it was a mistake then time should have went back on the clock then if they did not add the time back then the foul should have stood.
01-25-2007, 01:18 AM
meganwillis10 Wrote:I do know at Halftime the lead was 5 pts for the tigers and the FT's where 6/9 for the tigers and the Raiders 0/0, at the end of the 3rd the Tigers where 8/11 from the line and the Raiders where 0/0. that might be the reason some people say that they got some calls. I watch a great game with great calls until 1:30 to go in the game and the refs stopped blowing their whistles on the SF end and like basketballonlyfan said if it was a mistake then time should have went back on the clock then if they did not add the time back then the foul should have stood.
How does SF expect to get to the free throw line when all they do is shoot 3's. I stayed until halftime and I bet I only seen about 5 shots inside the 3 point line from SF. Before the SF fans start complainin about them not shootin any free throws (not sayin you cause you aint complainin) they might wanna think about that for a minute.
01-25-2007, 01:41 AM
like I said they might think that but a lot of fans look at the scoreboard (the ones that do not pay cloase attention) and I can tell you it said foul SF 7 Paintsville 1 at the halftime never seen a game that a team like Paintsville who as always been know as a physical team down low does not get more the one foul tring to hit the boards hard. !st half SF was 7/17 threes in first half and took 20 shots inside the line so not the reason no fouls where calls.
01-25-2007, 01:42 AM
Shot 3 more 3 attempts then Paintsville in first half
SF 17
P 14
SF 17
P 14
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