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Should Joseph Robinette Biden, Jr. be impeached?
#1
Is it too late to impeach former President Joe Biden? If not, should he be impeached to ensure that a dangerous, dysfunctional presidency such as Biden's never threatens the existence of our democratic republic again?

If you are curious about who was in charge of the White House during the last year of Biden's presidency, then watch the following video. Pay particular attention to the seconds around the 6-minute mark of the video.

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#2
Waste of valuable time IMO. All the corruption is coming out daily anyway. Let Jill put a bib on him and feed him with a spoon and change his Depends every day for the rest of his life, that is if she doesn't flee.
#3
I am interested in the BGR liberals answering this question. Why should Biden not be impeached for allegedly allowing his crackhead son access to top secret classified information, despite Hunter not having a security clearance? Also, if Hunter Biden was the de facto president during the last few months of Joe Biden's presidency, why should anybody assume that Joe signed pardons or signed bills into law if there is no video evidence of the signings?

There is a precedent from 1876, where the Secretary of War was impeached and tried after he resigned his position. Democrats thought that it was important to impeach Donald Trump and then have the Senate try him after his first term ended. Why should Trump and the Republican controlled Congress not return the favor? What would Democrats do if the shoe was on the other foot? Never mind...the answer to that question is obvious.
#4
Doesn't the court require that you must be of sound mind before any kind of prosecution?

mic drop
#5
(02-09-2025, 01:58 PM)Granny Bear Wrote: Doesn't the court require that you must be of sound mind before any kind of prosecution?

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Bingo, Granny. Courts also require that people who sign legal documents such as contracts be of sound mind when they sign legal documents such as contracts. Joe Biden was definite not of sound mind, especially after the Democrats decided he was incapable of running for a second term. 

When Lindi Li acted shocked following the election at the amount of money that Kamala Harris spent during her disastrous presidential campaign, I thought she was either an idiot or pretending to be an idiot to dodge any criminal responsibility.

I think recent videos, including the ones I posted suggests that Li was only acting shocked earlier. I find her explanations about who was pulling Joe Biden's strings to be very credible. She is no airheaded bimbo.
#6
The only thing crazier, and more outlandish , than the OP is the OP's sources. Conspiracy nut.
#7
My major issue with her is, she has stated she’s always been a conservative….Is this true or is she just switching sides politically cause she sees the democrats in disarray and wants to be on the winning team in the future? In other words she’s gonna support which ever side puts money in her pocket and that’ll be her worldview not her actual morals…
#8
(02-09-2025, 01:58 PM)Granny Bear Wrote: Doesn't the court require that you must be of sound mind before any kind of prosecution?

mic drop


This post could be construed as elderly on elderly crime.  Big Grin  



Does anyone on here seriously(I mean, SERIOUSLY) think Donald Trump is of sound mind???
#9
Hard no for me, the precedence that every administration is going to impeach the previous just divides us even more, and really severs no purpose, what they may have did, is already done.

Trump was smart his first term and didnt try to do it, hopefully he does that again, find other ways to get them back.
#10
(02-09-2025, 03:14 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: The only thing crazier, and more outlandish , than the OP is the OP's sources. Conspiracy nut.
The OP's source was the top fundraiser for Kamala Harris.  Big Grin

What's your point if you have one? I'm assuming that you did not watch the video and that you had no idea who Li was. Don't waste time denying it, because nobody will believe you anyway. Once you lose your credibility, it is difficult to restore it.
#11
(02-09-2025, 03:15 PM)TD Hounds Wrote: My major issue with her is, she has stated she’s always been a conservative….Is this true or is she just switching sides politically cause she sees the democrats in disarray and wants to be on the winning team in the future?  In other words she’s gonna support which ever side puts money in her pocket and that’ll be her worldview not her actual morals…
No conservative would have been a Democrat and a top fundraiser for Harris. Li is trying to avoid a potential prison term or litigation for her role in fleecing donors to Kamala's campaign, which squandered upwards of $1.5 billion.
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#12
(02-09-2025, 03:17 PM)Old School Hound Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 01:58 PM)Granny Bear Wrote: Doesn't the court require that you must be of sound mind before any kind of prosecution?

mic drop


This post could be construed as elderly on elderly crime.  Big Grin  



Does anyone on here seriously(I mean, SERIOUSLY) think Donald Trump is of sound mind???
Your the wrong person to be questioning the soundness of anybody's mind.  Big Grin You have no standing to make the charge.
#13
(02-09-2025, 03:39 PM)plantmanky Wrote: Hard no for me, the precedence that every administration is going to impeach the previous just divides us even more, and really severs no purpose, what they may have did, is already done. 

Trump was smart his first term and didnt try to do it, hopefully he does that again, find other ways to get them back.
I'm not in favor of impeaching Biden after he left office. It was ridiculous when Democrats tried Trump after the end of his term, and it would be ridiculous for Republicans to impeach Biden now.

However, unlike both impeachments of Trump, there is very compelling evidence that Biden was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. But, I agree that impeaching Biden now would be a waste of valuable time and it would set a dangerous precedent. 

That being said, it is important that Congress investigate the shenanigans of the Biden administration to deter a repeat of the same illegal acts in the future.
#14
(02-09-2025, 04:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 03:39 PM)plantmanky Wrote: Hard no for me, the precedence that every administration is going to impeach the previous just divides us even more, and really severs no purpose, what they may have did, is already done. 

Trump was smart his first term and didnt try to do it, hopefully he does that again, find other ways to get them back.
I'm not in favor of impeaching Biden after he left office. It was ridiculous when Democrats tried Trump after the end of his term, and it would be ridiculous for Republicans to impeach Biden now.

However, unlike both impeachments of Trump, there is very compelling evidence that Biden was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. But, I agree that impeaching Biden now would be a waste of valuable time and it would set a dangerous precedent. 

That being said, it is important that Congress investigate the shenanigans of the Biden administration to deter a repeat of the same illegal acts in the future.

Congress was involved in it, are they gonna investigate themselves.   Thats my point, its useless, what was done is done.  Looking back does nothing.
#15
(02-09-2025, 04:27 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 03:39 PM)plantmanky Wrote: Hard no for me, the precedence that every administration is going to impeach the previous just divides us even more, and really severs no purpose, what they may have did, is already done. 

Trump was smart his first term and didnt try to do it, hopefully he does that again, find other ways to get them back.
I'm not in favor of impeaching Biden after he left office. It was ridiculous when Democrats tried Trump after the end of his term, and it would be ridiculous for Republicans to impeach Biden now.

However, unlike both impeachments of Trump, there is very compelling evidence that Biden was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. But, I agree that impeaching Biden now would be a waste of valuable time and it would set a dangerous precedent. 

That being said, it is important that Congress investigate the shenanigans of the Biden administration to deter a repeat of the same illegal acts in the future.

Congress was involved in it, are they gonna investigate themselves.   Thats my point, its useless, what was done is done.  Looking back does nothing.
The difference is the previous investigations were nothing but whitewashes conducted by committees controlled by Democrats. In other cases, witnesses lied under oath, ignored subpoenas,etc., and the crooked Biden DoJ refused to enforce any charges against members of the Biden administration. 

It is very important to hold people accountable for criminal wrongdoing. Another thing that has changed is that people who have been pardoned can no longer refuse to answer questions by invoking the Fifth Amendment.

This is a different Congress than it was a few months ago and we have a legitimate Attorney General in charge of the DoJ. Pam Bondi will enforce contempt rulings fairly and without regard to party affiliation.

Oversight of federal agencies is a very important constitutional responsibility of Congress. Meeting its constitutional obligations is not a waste of time.
#16
(02-09-2025, 04:01 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 03:15 PM)TD Hounds Wrote: My major issue with her is, she has stated she’s always been a conservative….Is this true or is she just switching sides politically cause she sees the democrats in disarray and wants to be on the winning team in the future?  In other words she’s gonna support which ever side puts money in her pocket and that’ll be her worldview not her actual morals…
No conservative would have been a Democrat and a top fundraiser for Harris. Li is trying to avoid a potential prison term or litigation for her role in fleecing donors to Kamala's campaign, which squandered upwards of $1.5 billion.
I hope they lock her up and throw away the key, along with many deserving others….
#17
I'm gonna take the mask off and be serious for just a moment. No role playing , no playing the bad guy. My family has a long history of leaving out of this world because of dementia. As a young lad of just six or seven, I can remember my great grandmother having to be  fed, cleaned, diapered, and cared for 24/7. My great grandfather was not a young man himself but he loved her with all his heart and did his best to care for her. But it was hard. Back then, before Alzheimer's was a thing, her condition was just called "hardening of the arteries." All I remember hearing from her was just nonsensical childlike babble, until she finally passed away when I was around eight. My grandmother (my great-grandmother's mother)  was showing signs of dementia before she passed away from a stroke.

Mom passed from a stroke back in the summer of '23, but over the year or so prior to her stroke,  she had begun getting very forgetful and repeating a lot of things she said.  She was definitely showing signs of losing herself.

Dad is about two and a half years older than former President, Joe Biden.  Like Mr Biden, dad also struggles with his mental acuity. He's not the same person he was just a few short years ago. To watch him the other night, for what seemed like thirty minutes , aimlessly wandering around the kitchen, looking to put utensils that had been put away just minutes before, was pretty heart wrenching.  Dad's confusion seems to worsen when the sun goes down. I've heard people even refers to Sundown Syndrome, where people with dementia issues tend to become more confused in the late afternoon or evening hours. I can tell you that it's a real thing.

And then there's me. The guy that plays a bad guy role but is really not a bad guy at all. I feed and care for between two and three dozen animals on nearly a daily basis. I even stop at restaurants just to feed strays. Animals are my heart. I sacrifice my time, energy, and finances to care for as many as I can. I support causes to help the homeless , the abused(children, women, the elderly).  Think of me as the board sadist, if you want, but I don't feel that is accurate. I'll be the first to admit that I do love animals more than I do most humans. If that's a terrible thing, then think of me as a terrible person.  Why do I say this?  Remember , dementia runs in my family. It's likely in the DNA code.  Great-grandmother, grandmother, mom, dad, and now... ME ??? 

I'm moving headlong into my sixties. I can see that not so magical 65 in full view now. I forget names that I shouldn't forget. I forget doctor appointments.  I lose my phone a couple times a week. The last time , some stranger brought the phone to me, after calling a number on the phone and finding out where I lived. Apparently, I had left the phone on the car and it had fallen on the side of the road. The same week, I lost a set of house keys ...TWICE. Both times I found them... once, on my street, just down from my house. The other time, on an adjacent street. A car had run over them and broken two of the eight or so keys. Again, apparently,  I had left them on the car and drove off.  Do I have an issue with the same debilitating condition that affected other family members? I don't know. But I worry. And I think I have reason to worry.

I sometimes brush it off as just having "too much on my plate, " at the present time. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's the curse of the DNA.  The first time that I really started to worry was when I forgot the name of someone I had dated and loved for several years. I was sitting in the Walmart parking lot and thinking about her and her child and realized, much to my shock and dismay,  that I had forgotten their names. These were two people I had known for years, and had been apart of their lives just a very few years prior.  I hope it's because I just stretch myself too thin, trying to do do much, in the time that I have. But, I worry. I'm not too young.

Now, the real reason I say all of this. Dementia is not something that's funny, or to belittle someone about, whether you like them or hate them. Joe Biden would not have been my #1 choice for president, nor would Kamala Harris. I think Biden did okay, and I think history will treat him pretty well. While he wasn't my all-time favorite, I just hope I have the mental faculties twenty years from now to perform as well as he did. I'm sure all of the jokes and hurtful things people  have said about his loss of mental acuity has been hard on his wife. I remember reading heartbreaking accounts of Ms. Reagan talking about the day when her beloved husband no longer recognized her. That had to be truly devastating. I was far from a Reagan fan but reading her account of that made me sad.

I know I play the heel role on here, and I do enjoy being Ric Flair or Roddy Piper, but even guys who play heels have feelings. As I watched my dad, now with a cane,  because of tired and broken knees , seemingly dazed and confused in the kitchen, it reminded me how sad my life is now compared to the time when my mom and dad, and grandparents , were all alive and making my sister and I the happiest kids alive. Life is different now. Now is a period in my life that I have trouble navigating, at times. I'm sad a lot of the time. Maybe, that too, is part of the onset of something horrible that will eventually take my mind from me.

There are those moments when I wish I did have something to cling to, outside of this earthly existence. Maybe then, I would , at least be able to deal with loss, and "the long goodbye" of loved ones with a bit more peace and comfort. Maybe being a rational thinker, which I highly prize,  has its own  pitfall , or two. Let's please not mic drop anyone's loss of mental faculties. We never know when that insidious monster may come knocking on our our on front door. I love you all.  Thanks for listening.

Now,  back to being the Nature Boy... ;)
#18
(02-09-2025, 09:11 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: I'm gonna take the mask off and be serious for just a moment. No role playing , no playing the bad guy. My family has a long history of leaving out of this world because of dementia. As a young lad of just six or seven, I can remember my great grandmother having to be  fed, cleaned, diapered, and cared for 24/7. My great grandfather was not a young man himself but he loved her with all his heart and did his best to care for her. But it was hard. Back then, before Alzheimer's was a thing, her condition was just called "hardening of the arteries." All I remember hearing from her was just nonsensical childlike babble, until she finally passed away when I was around eight. My grandmother (my great-grandmother's mother)  was showing signs of dementia before she passed away from a stroke.

Mom passed from a stroke back in the summer of '23, but over the year or so prior to her stroke,  she had begun getting very forgetful and repeating a lot of things she said.  She was definitely showing signs of losing herself.

Dad is about two and a half years older than former President, Joe Biden.  Like Mr Biden, dad also struggles with his mental acuity. He's not the same person he was just a few short years ago. To watch him the other night, for what seemed like thirty minutes , aimlessly wandering around the kitchen, looking to put utensils that had been put away just minutes before, was pretty heart wrenching.  Dad's confusion seems to worsen when the sun goes down. I've heard people even refers to Sundown Syndrome, where people with dementia issues tend to become more confused in the late afternoon or evening hours. I can tell you that it's a real thing.

And then there's me. The guy that plays a bad guy role but is really not a bad guy at all. I feed and care for between two and three dozen animals on nearly a daily basis. I even stop at restaurants just to feed strays. Animals are my heart. I sacrifice my time, energy, and finances to care for as many as I can. I support causes to help the homeless , the abused(children, women, the elderly).  Think of me as the board sadist, if you want, but I don't feel that is accurate. I'll be the first to admit that I do love animals more than I do most humans. If that's a terrible thing, then think of me as a terrible person.  Why do I say this?  Remember , dementia runs in my family. It's likely in the DNA code.  Great-grandmother, grandmother, mom, dad, and now... ME ??? 

I'm moving headlong into my sixties. I can see that not so magical 65 in full view now. I forget names that I shouldn't forget. I forget doctor appointments.  I lose my phone a couple times a week. The last time , some stranger brought the phone to me, after calling a number on the phone and finding out where I lived. Apparently, I had left the phone on the car and it had fallen on the side of the road. The same week, I lost a set of house keys ...TWICE. Both times I found them... once, on my street, just down from my house. The other time, on an adjacent street. A car had run over them and broken two of the eight or so keys. Again, apparently,  I had left them on the car and drove off.  Do I have an issue with the same debilitating condition that affected other family members? I don't know. But I worry. And I think I have reason to worry.

I sometimes brush it off as just having "too much on my plate, " at the present time. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's the curse of the DNA.  The first time that I really started to worry was when I forgot the name of someone I had dated and loved for several years. I was sitting in the Walmart parking lot and thinking about her and her child and realized, much to my shock and dismay,  that I had forgotten their names. These were two people I had known for years, and had been apart of their lives just a very few years prior.  I hope it's because I just stretch myself too thin, trying to do do much, in the time that I have. But, I worry. I'm not too young.

Now, the real reason I say all of this. Dementia is not something that's funny, or to belittle someone about, whether you like them or hate them. Joe Biden would not have been my #1 choice for president, nor would Kamala Harris. I think Biden did okay, and I think history will treat him pretty well. While he wasn't my all-time favorite, I just hope I have the mental faculties twenty years from now to perform as well as he did. I'm sure all of the jokes and hurtful things people  have said about his loss of mental acuity has been hard on his wife. I remember reading heartbreaking accounts of Ms. Reagan talking about the day when her beloved husband no longer recognized her. That had to be truly devastating. I was far from a Reagan fan but reading her account of that made me sad.

I know I play the heel role on here, and I do enjoy being Ric Flair or Roddy Piper, but even guys who play heels have feelings. As I watched my dad, now with a cane,  because of tired and broken knees , seemingly dazed and confused in the kitchen, it reminded me how sad my life is now compared to the time when my mom and dad, and grandparents , were all alive and making my sister and I the happiest kids alive. Life is different now. Now is a period in my life that I have trouble navigating, at times. I'm sad a lot of the time. Maybe, that too, is part of the onset of something horrible that will eventually take my mind from me.

There are those moments when I wish I did have something to cling to, outside of this earthly existence. Maybe then, I would , at least be able to deal with loss, and "the long goodbye" of loved ones with a bit more peace and comfort. Maybe being a rational thinker, which I highly prize,  has its own  pitfall , or two. Let's please not mic drop anyone's loss of mental faculties. We never know when that insidious monster may come knocking on our our on front door. I love you all.  Thanks for listening.

Now,  back to being the Nature Boy... Wink
Whether you are a decent man in real life or not, how you present yourself online is the only way you will be judged online, and you are not a decent person online. I have no reason to take your word for anything because the online "you" is dishonest and unlikable. If that is how you seek to be perceived here, then you are a smashing success.

I hope that in person, you are exactly the man you described. I recently lost my mother to dementia and I don't wish that fate on anybody. There is nothing funny about dementia, we can agree on that.
#19
(02-09-2025, 09:31 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 09:11 PM)Old School Hound Wrote: I'm gonna take the mask off and be serious for just a moment. No role playing , no playing the bad guy. My family has a long history of leaving out of this world because of dementia. As a young lad of just six or seven, I can remember my great grandmother having to be  fed, cleaned, diapered, and cared for 24/7. My great grandfather was not a young man himself but he loved her with all his heart and did his best to care for her. But it was hard. Back then, before Alzheimer's was a thing, her condition was just called "hardening of the arteries." All I remember hearing from her was just nonsensical childlike babble, until she finally passed away when I was around eight. My grandmother (my great-grandmother's mother)  was showing signs of dementia before she passed away from a stroke.

Mom passed from a stroke back in the summer of '23, but over the year or so prior to her stroke,  she had begun getting very forgetful and repeating a lot of things she said.  She was definitely showing signs of losing herself.

Dad is about two and a half years older than former President, Joe Biden.  Like Mr Biden, dad also struggles with his mental acuity. He's not the same person he was just a few short years ago. To watch him the other night, for what seemed like thirty minutes , aimlessly wandering around the kitchen, looking to put utensils that had been put away just minutes before, was pretty heart wrenching.  Dad's confusion seems to worsen when the sun goes down. I've heard people even refers to Sundown Syndrome, where people with dementia issues tend to become more confused in the late afternoon or evening hours. I can tell you that it's a real thing.

And then there's me. The guy that plays a bad guy role but is really not a bad guy at all. I feed and care for between two and three dozen animals on nearly a daily basis. I even stop at restaurants just to feed strays. Animals are my heart. I sacrifice my time, energy, and finances to care for as many as I can. I support causes to help the homeless , the abused(children, women, the elderly).  Think of me as the board sadist, if you want, but I don't feel that is accurate. I'll be the first to admit that I do love animals more than I do most humans. If that's a terrible thing, then think of me as a terrible person.  Why do I say this?  Remember , dementia runs in my family. It's likely in the DNA code.  Great-grandmother, grandmother, mom, dad, and now... ME ??? 

I'm moving headlong into my sixties. I can see that not so magical 65 in full view now. I forget names that I shouldn't forget. I forget doctor appointments.  I lose my phone a couple times a week. The last time , some stranger brought the phone to me, after calling a number on the phone and finding out where I lived. Apparently, I had left the phone on the car and it had fallen on the side of the road. The same week, I lost a set of house keys ...TWICE. Both times I found them... once, on my street, just down from my house. The other time, on an adjacent street. A car had run over them and broken two of the eight or so keys. Again, apparently,  I had left them on the car and drove off.  Do I have an issue with the same debilitating condition that affected other family members? I don't know. But I worry. And I think I have reason to worry.

I sometimes brush it off as just having "too much on my plate, " at the present time. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's the curse of the DNA.  The first time that I really started to worry was when I forgot the name of someone I had dated and loved for several years. I was sitting in the Walmart parking lot and thinking about her and her child and realized, much to my shock and dismay,  that I had forgotten their names. These were two people I had known for years, and had been apart of their lives just a very few years prior.  I hope it's because I just stretch myself too thin, trying to do do much, in the time that I have. But, I worry. I'm not too young.

Now, the real reason I say all of this. Dementia is not something that's funny, or to belittle someone about, whether you like them or hate them. Joe Biden would not have been my #1 choice for president, nor would Kamala Harris. I think Biden did okay, and I think history will treat him pretty well. While he wasn't my all-time favorite, I just hope I have the mental faculties twenty years from now to perform as well as he did. I'm sure all of the jokes and hurtful things people  have said about his loss of mental acuity has been hard on his wife. I remember reading heartbreaking accounts of Ms. Reagan talking about the day when her beloved husband no longer recognized her. That had to be truly devastating. I was far from a Reagan fan but reading her account of that made me sad.

I know I play the heel role on here, and I do enjoy being Ric Flair or Roddy Piper, but even guys who play heels have feelings. As I watched my dad, now with a cane,  because of tired and broken knees , seemingly dazed and confused in the kitchen, it reminded me how sad my life is now compared to the time when my mom and dad, and grandparents , were all alive and making my sister and I the happiest kids alive. Life is different now. Now is a period in my life that I have trouble navigating, at times. I'm sad a lot of the time. Maybe, that too, is part of the onset of something horrible that will eventually take my mind from me.

There are those moments when I wish I did have something to cling to, outside of this earthly existence. Maybe then, I would , at least be able to deal with loss, and "the long goodbye" of loved ones with a bit more peace and comfort. Maybe being a rational thinker, which I highly prize,  has its own  pitfall , or two. Let's please not mic drop anyone's loss of mental faculties. We never know when that insidious monster may come knocking on our our on front door. I love you all.  Thanks for listening.

Now,  back to being the Nature Boy... Wink
Whether you are a decent man in real life or not, how you present yourself online is the only way you will be judged online, and you are not a decent person online. I have no reason to take your word for anything because the online "you" is dishonest and unlikable. If that is how you seek to be perceived here, then you are a smashing success.

I hope that in person, you are exactly the man you described. I recently lost my mother to dementia and I don't wish that fate on anybody. There is nothing funny about dementia, we can agree on that.


My sincere and heartfelt sadness for your loss. It is a terrible thing.  I think it's fine to discuss the former president's , or any leader's possible issues with dementia . But to make light of it in any way is kinda terrible. It certainly isn't funny when it's been a part of your life since you were six years old.

I don't often take my online mask off and break character but when I've seen so many family members struggle with this disease, I have no issue with "turning face," to use a pro wrestling expression. I like being the heel, and I'm fine with you, or anyone, judging that character, rather the person I choose not to show as much. In fact, just like wrestling heels(I'm an Old School wrestling fan), who make their money drawing heat, I enjoy the heat I draw. I look at it as , an event, entertainment , a Wrestlemania.  Takes away from the some the time that I would, otherwise, spend feeling the pain.

Again, my sincere condolences on the loss of your mother.
#20
(02-09-2025, 04:53 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:27 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 03:39 PM)plantmanky Wrote: Hard no for me, the precedence that every administration is going to impeach the previous just divides us even more, and really severs no purpose, what they may have did, is already done. 

Trump was smart his first term and didnt try to do it, hopefully he does that again, find other ways to get them back.
I'm not in favor of impeaching Biden after he left office. It was ridiculous when Democrats tried Trump after the end of his term, and it would be ridiculous for Republicans to impeach Biden now.

However, unlike both impeachments of Trump, there is very compelling evidence that Biden was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. But, I agree that impeaching Biden now would be a waste of valuable time and it would set a dangerous precedent. 

That being said, it is important that Congress investigate the shenanigans of the Biden administration to deter a repeat of the same illegal acts in the future.

Congress was involved in it, are they gonna investigate themselves.   Thats my point, its useless, what was done is done.  Looking back does nothing.
The difference is the previous investigations were nothing but whitewashes conducted by committees controlled by Democrats. In other cases, witnesses lied under oath, ignored subpoenas,etc., and the crooked Biden DoJ refused to enforce any charges against members of the Biden administration. 

It is very important to hold people accountable for criminal wrongdoing. Another thing that has changed is that people who have been pardoned can no longer refuse to answer questions by invoking the Fifth Amendment.

This is a different Congress than it was a few months ago and we have a legitimate Attorney General in charge of the DoJ. Pam Bondi will enforce contempt rulings fairly and without regard to party affiliation.

Oversight of federal agencies is a very important constitutional responsibility of Congress. Meeting its constitutional obligations is not a waste of time.


You do realized that 96% of incumbents in Congress were re-elected right, so its the same group of people, who are going to investigate themselves.  

Lets not waste more of our money and things from yesterday, and worry about things for tomorrow.
#21
(02-09-2025, 09:48 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:53 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:27 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 03:39 PM)plantmanky Wrote: Hard no for me, the precedence that every administration is going to impeach the previous just divides us even more, and really severs no purpose, what they may have did, is already done. 

Trump was smart his first term and didnt try to do it, hopefully he does that again, find other ways to get them back.
I'm not in favor of impeaching Biden after he left office. It was ridiculous when Democrats tried Trump after the end of his term, and it would be ridiculous for Republicans to impeach Biden now.

However, unlike both impeachments of Trump, there is very compelling evidence that Biden was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. But, I agree that impeaching Biden now would be a waste of valuable time and it would set a dangerous precedent. 

That being said, it is important that Congress investigate the shenanigans of the Biden administration to deter a repeat of the same illegal acts in the future.

Congress was involved in it, are they gonna investigate themselves.   Thats my point, its useless, what was done is done.  Looking back does nothing.
The difference is the previous investigations were nothing but whitewashes conducted by committees controlled by Democrats. In other cases, witnesses lied under oath, ignored subpoenas,etc., and the crooked Biden DoJ refused to enforce any charges against members of the Biden administration. 

It is very important to hold people accountable for criminal wrongdoing. Another thing that has changed is that people who have been pardoned can no longer refuse to answer questions by invoking the Fifth Amendment.

This is a different Congress than it was a few months ago and we have a legitimate Attorney General in charge of the DoJ. Pam Bondi will enforce contempt rulings fairly and without regard to party affiliation.

Oversight of federal agencies is a very important constitutional responsibility of Congress. Meeting its constitutional obligations is not a waste of time.


You do realized that 96% of incumbents in Congress were re-elected right, so its the same group of people, who are going to investigate themselves.  

Lets not waste more of our money and things from yesterday, and worry about things for tomorrow.


I can get on board with that.  Most of Congress sucks. Time wasters and money wasters, the vast majority of them.
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(02-09-2025, 09:48 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:53 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:27 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 03:39 PM)plantmanky Wrote: Hard no for me, the precedence that every administration is going to impeach the previous just divides us even more, and really severs no purpose, what they may have did, is already done. 

Trump was smart his first term and didnt try to do it, hopefully he does that again, find other ways to get them back.
I'm not in favor of impeaching Biden after he left office. It was ridiculous when Democrats tried Trump after the end of his term, and it would be ridiculous for Republicans to impeach Biden now.

However, unlike both impeachments of Trump, there is very compelling evidence that Biden was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. But, I agree that impeaching Biden now would be a waste of valuable time and it would set a dangerous precedent. 

That being said, it is important that Congress investigate the shenanigans of the Biden administration to deter a repeat of the same illegal acts in the future.

Congress was involved in it, are they gonna investigate themselves.   Thats my point, its useless, what was done is done.  Looking back does nothing.
The difference is the previous investigations were nothing but whitewashes conducted by committees controlled by Democrats. In other cases, witnesses lied under oath, ignored subpoenas,etc., and the crooked Biden DoJ refused to enforce any charges against members of the Biden administration. 

It is very important to hold people accountable for criminal wrongdoing. Another thing that has changed is that people who have been pardoned can no longer refuse to answer questions by invoking the Fifth Amendment.

This is a different Congress than it was a few months ago and we have a legitimate Attorney General in charge of the DoJ. Pam Bondi will enforce contempt rulings fairly and without regard to party affiliation.

Oversight of federal agencies is a very important constitutional responsibility of Congress. Meeting its constitutional obligations is not a waste of time.


You do realized that 96% of incumbents in Congress were re-elected right, so its the same group of people, who are going to investigate themselves.  

Lets not waste more of our money and things from yesterday, and worry about things for tomorrow.
You misunderstand the significance of an election that resulted in Republicans capturing control of the House, the Senate, and the presidency. The minority party has very little say in the results of investigations or anything else in our system. When you add an extremely crooked president and Attorney General to the mix, it is difficult for the party controlling the House or Senate to conduct effective investigations because witnesses can lie and ignore subpoenas with impunity.

You are mostly correct about reelection rates, but the Senate rate was only 88 percent in the 2024 elections, which was enough for Republicans to win the controlling majority of seats. But the most important change in the elections was the defeat of Kamala Harris and the appointment of Pam Bondi as the new Attorney General.

The bottom line is that when Congress subpoenas documents and witnesses for hearings, they will be forthcoming - or somebody will be held accountable for their failure to comply. Witnesses will testify honestly or they will face contempt, obstruction, or perjury charges and the Department of Justice will enforce penalties. That did not happen for the past four years.

What you are suggesting is analogous to only investigating crimes that are committed after a new mayor is elected.

Investigating the corruption of the Biden administration should not be the Republican Congress's top priority, but the 535 House and Senate members are not too overworked to spend part of their time determining what went wrong the past four years and not repeating the mistakes that were made.

Finally, most of the problems of the past four years were the result of a very corrupt president and his administration. Congress has its own problems with corruption, but the worst failure of Congress during the past four years was failing to provide proper oversight of the federal agencies in the executive branch. Biden and his band of outlaws had a free rein for four years and they took full advantage.
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(02-09-2025, 09:55 PM)Old School Hound Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 09:48 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:53 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:27 PM)plantmanky Wrote:
(02-09-2025, 04:13 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: I'm not in favor of impeaching Biden after he left office. It was ridiculous when Democrats tried Trump after the end of his term, and it would be ridiculous for Republicans to impeach Biden now.

However, unlike both impeachments of Trump, there is very compelling evidence that Biden was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. But, I agree that impeaching Biden now would be a waste of valuable time and it would set a dangerous precedent. 

That being said, it is important that Congress investigate the shenanigans of the Biden administration to deter a repeat of the same illegal acts in the future.

Congress was involved in it, are they gonna investigate themselves.   Thats my point, its useless, what was done is done.  Looking back does nothing.
The difference is the previous investigations were nothing but whitewashes conducted by committees controlled by Democrats. In other cases, witnesses lied under oath, ignored subpoenas,etc., and the crooked Biden DoJ refused to enforce any charges against members of the Biden administration. 

It is very important to hold people accountable for criminal wrongdoing. Another thing that has changed is that people who have been pardoned can no longer refuse to answer questions by invoking the Fifth Amendment.

This is a different Congress than it was a few months ago and we have a legitimate Attorney General in charge of the DoJ. Pam Bondi will enforce contempt rulings fairly and without regard to party affiliation.

Oversight of federal agencies is a very important constitutional responsibility of Congress. Meeting its constitutional obligations is not a waste of time.


You do realized that 96% of incumbents in Congress were re-elected right, so its the same group of people, who are going to investigate themselves.  

Lets not waste more of our money and things from yesterday, and worry about things for tomorrow.


I can get on board with that.  Most of Congress sucks. Time wasters and money wasters, the vast majority of them.
Plantman, the fact that OSH agrees with you should be enough to convince you that you are wrong.  Big Grin

Seriously, I agree that most members of Congress are wastes of space, but that is no reason to stop demanding that they do their jobs. There are some good, hard-working members of Congress but they are few and far between.
#24
It is almost 8:30 AM and President Trump has not held a press conference or signed any new documents yet. He must have slept in this morning after receiving the reception of a conquering hero at last night's Super Bowl in New Orleans.

Had Joe Biden jetted to New Orleans for the Super Bowl, he would have required a two-week vacation on the beach to recover, followed by a couple days of seclusion at the White House to recover from his return trip to Washington.

It is great to have a real president who is not brain-dead leading the country again!

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