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[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Auburn
20-1
2
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Duke
19-2
3
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Alabama
19-3
4
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Tennessee
18-4
5
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Houston
17-4
6
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Florida
18-3
7
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Purdue
17-5
8
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Iowa State
17-4
9
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Michigan State
18-3
10
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Texas A&M
17-5
11
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Marquette
18-4
12
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]St. John's
19-3
13
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Texas Tech
17-4
14
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Kentucky
15-6
15
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Missouri
17-4
16
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Kansas
15-6
17
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Memphis
18-4
18
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Maryland
17-5
19
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]UConn
16-6
20
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Arizona
15-6
21
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Wisconsin
17-5
22
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Mississippi State
16-6
23
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Illinois
15-7
24
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Michigan
16-5
25
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Ole Miss
16-6
No movement at the top 2, Auburn keeps rolling in the toughest conference, as Duke keeps rolling in a weak ACC.
Kentucky falls to 14, obviously not for the UT win, they would have fallen down way more after the Arkansas loss Saturday.
Ole Miss falls to 25, defeated Texas last week but lost to Auburn, they were previously at 23. Their in-state rival Mississippi St, I am very surprised they even stayed in at all, Missouri put a 27-point loss on them at The Hump.
Maryland & Michigan make their way back into the top 25 as well. Michigan St 13 game win streak ended as they suffered their first conference loss to USC. Been pretty high on Sparty, but they haven't had the strongest schedule, will really find out what they're made of coming up as their conference schedule moves forward.
Iowa St had a brutal week, losing to Arizona on the road, and getting crushed on their home floor by a bad Kansas St team, doesn't get any easier as they travel to Kansas tonight. Speaking of Arizona, they are finally coming around to the team everyone expected them to be in the pre-season.
St. John's has been playing arguably better than anyone in the country and could quite possible be Rick Pitino's best coaching job, still has his fastball. The Johnnies toughest test to date will all be this week, as they host Marquette, and travel to UConn.
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Auburn
20-1
2
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Duke
19-2
3
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Alabama
19-3
4
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Tennessee
18-4
5
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Houston
17-4
6
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Florida
18-3
7
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Purdue
17-5
8
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Iowa State
17-4
9
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Michigan State
18-3
10
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Texas A&M
17-5
11
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Marquette
18-4
12
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]St. John's
19-3
13
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Texas Tech
17-4
14
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Kentucky
15-6
15
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Missouri
17-4
16
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Kansas
15-6
17
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Memphis
18-4
18
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Maryland
17-5
19
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]UConn
16-6
20
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Arizona
15-6
21
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Wisconsin
17-5
22
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Mississippi State
16-6
23
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Illinois
15-7
24
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Michigan
16-5
25
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Ole Miss
16-6
No movement at the top 2, Auburn keeps rolling in the toughest conference, as Duke keeps rolling in a weak ACC.
Kentucky falls to 14, obviously not for the UT win, they would have fallen down way more after the Arkansas loss Saturday.
Ole Miss falls to 25, defeated Texas last week but lost to Auburn, they were previously at 23. Their in-state rival Mississippi St, I am very surprised they even stayed in at all, Missouri put a 27-point loss on them at The Hump.
Maryland & Michigan make their way back into the top 25 as well. Michigan St 13 game win streak ended as they suffered their first conference loss to USC. Been pretty high on Sparty, but they haven't had the strongest schedule, will really find out what they're made of coming up as their conference schedule moves forward.
Iowa St had a brutal week, losing to Arizona on the road, and getting crushed on their home floor by a bad Kansas St team, doesn't get any easier as they travel to Kansas tonight. Speaking of Arizona, they are finally coming around to the team everyone expected them to be in the pre-season.
St. John's has been playing arguably better than anyone in the country and could quite possible be Rick Pitino's best coaching job, still has his fastball. The Johnnies toughest test to date will all be this week, as they host Marquette, and travel to UConn.
8 hours ago
(9 hours ago)-STAT- Wrote: 1He's fast alright. About 15 seconds fast.
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Auburn
20-1
2
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Duke
19-2
3
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Alabama
19-3
4
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Tennessee
18-4
5
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Houston
17-4
6
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Florida
18-3
7
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Purdue
17-5
8
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Iowa State
17-4
9
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Michigan State
18-3
10
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Texas A&M
17-5
11
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Marquette
18-4
12
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]St. John's
19-3
13
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Texas Tech
17-4
14
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Kentucky
15-6
15
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Missouri
17-4
16
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Kansas
15-6
17
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Memphis
18-4
18
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Maryland
17-5
19
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]UConn
16-6
20
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Arizona
15-6
21
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Wisconsin
17-5
22
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Mississippi State
16-6
23
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Illinois
15-7
24
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Michigan
16-5
25
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Ole Miss
16-6
No movement at the top 2, Auburn keeps rolling in the toughest conference, as Duke keeps rolling in a weak ACC.
Kentucky falls to 14, obviously not for the UT win, they would have fallen down way more after the Arkansas loss Saturday.
Ole Miss falls to 25, defeated Texas last week but lost to Auburn, they were previously at 23. Their in-state rival Mississippi St, I am very surprised they even stayed in at all, Missouri put a 27-point loss on them at The Hump.
Maryland & Michigan make their way back into the top 25 as well. Michigan St 13 game win streak ended as they suffered their first conference loss to USC. Been pretty high on Sparty, but they haven't had the strongest schedule, will really find out what they're made of coming up as their conference schedule moves forward.
Iowa St had a brutal week, losing to Arizona on the road, and getting crushed on their home floor by a bad Kansas St team, doesn't get any easier as they travel to Kansas tonight. Speaking of Arizona, they are finally coming around to the team everyone expected them to be in the pre-season.
St. John's has been playing arguably better than anyone in the country and could quite possible be Rick Pitino's best coaching job, still has his fastball. The Johnnies toughest test to date will all be this week, as they host Marquette, and travel to UConn.
8 hours ago
(8 hours ago)Old School Hound Wrote:(9 hours ago)-STAT- Wrote: 1He's fast alright. About 15 seconds fast.
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Auburn
20-1
2
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Duke
19-2
3
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Alabama
19-3
4
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Tennessee
18-4
5
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Houston
17-4
6
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Florida
18-3
7
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Purdue
17-5
8
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Iowa State
17-4
9
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Michigan State
18-3
10
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Texas A&M
17-5
11
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Marquette
18-4
12
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]St. John's
19-3
13
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Texas Tech
17-4
14
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Kentucky
15-6
15
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Missouri
17-4
16
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Kansas
15-6
17
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Memphis
18-4
18
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Maryland
17-5
19
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]UConn
16-6
20
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Arizona
15-6
21
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Wisconsin
17-5
22
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Mississippi State
16-6
23
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Illinois
15-7
24
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Michigan
16-5
25
[Image: https://static01.nyt.com/athletic/logos/...-50x50.png]Ole Miss
16-6
No movement at the top 2, Auburn keeps rolling in the toughest conference, as Duke keeps rolling in a weak ACC.
Kentucky falls to 14, obviously not for the UT win, they would have fallen down way more after the Arkansas loss Saturday.
Ole Miss falls to 25, defeated Texas last week but lost to Auburn, they were previously at 23. Their in-state rival Mississippi St, I am very surprised they even stayed in at all, Missouri put a 27-point loss on them at The Hump.
Maryland & Michigan make their way back into the top 25 as well. Michigan St 13 game win streak ended as they suffered their first conference loss to USC. Been pretty high on Sparty, but they haven't had the strongest schedule, will really find out what they're made of coming up as their conference schedule moves forward.
Iowa St had a brutal week, losing to Arizona on the road, and getting crushed on their home floor by a bad Kansas St team, doesn't get any easier as they travel to Kansas tonight. Speaking of Arizona, they are finally coming around to the team everyone expected them to be in the pre-season.
St. John's has been playing arguably better than anyone in the country and could quite possible be Rick Pitino's best coaching job, still has his fastball. The Johnnies toughest test to date will all be this week, as they host Marquette, and travel to UConn.
Hey whatever works! But this is by far one of, if not his best coaching job.
7 hours ago
Like some of the movement, but downright baffled by other parts.
Obviously liked Houston moving up and think Alabama is a deserving #3.
Purdue is a team that I just can't get behind at #7 unless there's something I'm missing. Their resume actually looks like the mish-mash of an SEC and ACC team's if we're looking at quality opponents.
Losses:
11/19 - Marquette by 18
12/5 - Penn St. by 11
12/14 - Texas A&M by 4
12/21 - Auburn by 18
1/21 - Ohio St. by 3
Wins:
11/15 - Alabama by 9
11/29 - Ole Miss by 2
1/18 - Oregon by 7
1/24 - Michigan by 27
I'm seeing a team with a really nice mid-November win over Alabama, a good late November win over Ole Miss, and two okay wins. I'm also seeing a team that was blown out by Marquette and Auburn, beaten by double digits by a not-so-great Penn State, and two narrow but relatively understandable losses to A&M and OSU.
Even with the win over 'Bama, that doesn't scream "top 10" to me. Take away the early win over the Tide and we're probably talking about a team that's #18-25.
Removing any Top 10 team's biggest win obviously hurts, but we're now in February and everyone else at least has other big wins. I don't know how long the media and pollsters keep letting them ride a November 15th win, but I'm just not seeing it.
Obviously liked Houston moving up and think Alabama is a deserving #3.
Purdue is a team that I just can't get behind at #7 unless there's something I'm missing. Their resume actually looks like the mish-mash of an SEC and ACC team's if we're looking at quality opponents.
Losses:
11/19 - Marquette by 18
12/5 - Penn St. by 11
12/14 - Texas A&M by 4
12/21 - Auburn by 18
1/21 - Ohio St. by 3
Wins:
11/15 - Alabama by 9
11/29 - Ole Miss by 2
1/18 - Oregon by 7
1/24 - Michigan by 27
I'm seeing a team with a really nice mid-November win over Alabama, a good late November win over Ole Miss, and two okay wins. I'm also seeing a team that was blown out by Marquette and Auburn, beaten by double digits by a not-so-great Penn State, and two narrow but relatively understandable losses to A&M and OSU.
Even with the win over 'Bama, that doesn't scream "top 10" to me. Take away the early win over the Tide and we're probably talking about a team that's #18-25.
Removing any Top 10 team's biggest win obviously hurts, but we're now in February and everyone else at least has other big wins. I don't know how long the media and pollsters keep letting them ride a November 15th win, but I'm just not seeing it.
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