[jetpilot]

Bac that’s the stats for four different teams but who was on their schedule has a lot to do with stats and I know you know but a lot of teams have less challenging schedules and have greater stats hard to make comparisons that way

Also, just because a team has a lot coming back doesn't mean much if they were getting drilled by good teams last year. Plus you need to know how good the players are who will be stepping into starting rolls in 2025 and how deep teams will be.

[bac2369]

Here’s a little test for anyone looking and please give ur opinion and order. I’m gonna give some numbers and stats and u want u to rank them 1-4.

Team A- Returns 1248 yards offensively. The defense returns its #2,7,9,10, tacklers from last season with 8 INTs. There quarterback returns as well with 3- Oline starters

Team B- Returns 2605 yards offensively. The defense returns its #1,3,6,8,9,11, tacklers from last year with 5 INTs.  New Quarterback to start with experience with 5 starters on the O-line.

Team C- Returns close to 1400 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,5,7,11 tacklers from last year with 8 INTs.  New Quarterback with limited snaps and 3 starters back on the 0-line.

Team D-  Returns over 3500 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,7,10,11 tacklers from last season with 3 INTS. Quarterback returns with 5 O-line starters back.

That means very little on its own, for several reasons. Just one small piece of a large puzzle of how good those 4 teams will be, whoever they are.

Trust me returning numbers means a lot. Shows what they did last year and what they can do or do more in 2025.

[bac2369]

Bac that’s the stats for four different teams but who was on their schedule has a lot to do with stats and I know you know but a lot of teams have less challenging schedules and have greater stats hard to make comparisons that way

Every team listed challenged themselves. All will be in the top 10 of 1A 2025.

[bac2369]

Here’s a little test for anyone looking and please give ur opinion and order. I’m gonna give some numbers and stats and u want u to rank them 1-4.

Team A- Returns 1248 yards offensively. The defense returns its #2,7,9,10, tacklers from last season with 8 INTs. There quarterback returns as well with 3- Oline starters

Team B- Returns 2605 yards offensively. The defense returns its #1,3,6,8,9,11, tacklers from last year with 5 INTs. New Quarterback to start with experience with 5 starters on the O-line.

Team C- Returns close to 1400 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,5,7,11 tacklers from last year with 8 INTs. New Quarterback with limited snaps and 3 starters back on the 0-line.

Team D- Returns over 3500 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,7,10,11 tacklers from last season with 3 INTS. Quarterback returns with 5 O-line starters back.

Give us your thoughts and after a few rankings them I will tell who they are.

[RAMDAD50]

It’s just talking points fellas….bac isn’t suggesting any kind of success based on who returns what. That’s a lot of effort from bac just so we can have something to discuss during the off season. Good work bac.

Class A was a lot more fun this year in my opinion. I’m glad the super classes are gone and it’s nice to see only a handful of kids that look like they are 35 and have three kids on each team now. It should be more competitive moving forward. Both the Newport teams were a surprise last year. I wonder who will be the surprise team of 2025?

[EKY Hoops]

Here’s a little test for anyone looking and please give ur opinion and order. I’m gonna give some numbers and stats and u want u to rank them 1-4.

Team A- Returns 1248 yards offensively. The defense returns its #2,7,9,10, tacklers from last season with 8 INTs. There quarterback returns as well with 3- Oline starters

Team B- Returns 2605 yards offensively. The defense returns its #1,3,6,8,9,11, tacklers from last year with 5 INTs. New Quarterback to start with experience with 5 starters on the O-line.

Team C- Returns close to 1400 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,5,7,11 tacklers from last year with 8 INTs. New Quarterback with limited snaps and 3 starters back on the 0-line.

Team D- Returns over 3500 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,7,10,11 tacklers from last season with 3 INTS. Quarterback returns with 5 O-line starters back.

Give us your thoughts and after a few rankings them I will tell who they are.

1. Team D
2. Team B
T3. Team A
T3. Team C

I agree that returning production matters to an extent, but of course it doesn't tell the whole story. You can return your whole team and that is going to make your returning numbers look good, but if you were 4-6, it probably doesn't mean a whole lot. Not saying that is the case with these teams, just my 2 cents.

[bac2369]

It’s just talking points fellas….bac isn’t suggesting any kind of success based on who returns what. That’s a lot of effort from bac just so we can have something to discuss during the off season. Good work bac.

Class A was a lot more fun this year in my opinion. I’m glad the super classes are gone and it’s nice to see only a handful of kids that look like they are 35 and have three kids on each team now. It should be more competitive moving forward. Both the Newport teams were a surprise last year. I wonder who will be the surprise team of 2025?

I have also more numbers of about all the teams in class 1A like this.

[bac2369]

Here’s a little test for anyone looking and please give ur opinion and order. I’m gonna give some numbers and stats and u want u to rank them 1-4.

Team A- Returns 1248 yards offensively. The defense returns its #2,7,9,10, tacklers from last season with 8 INTs. There quarterback returns as well with 3- Oline starters

Team B- Returns 2605 yards offensively. The defense returns its #1,3,6,8,9,11, tacklers from last year with 5 INTs. New Quarterback to start with experience with 5 starters on the O-line.

Team C- Returns close to 1400 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,5,7,11 tacklers from last year with 8 INTs. New Quarterback with limited snaps and 3 starters back on the 0-line.

Team D- Returns over 3500 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,7,10,11 tacklers from last season with 3 INTS. Quarterback returns with 5 O-line starters back.

Give us your thoughts and after a few rankings them I will tell who they are.

1. Team D
2. Team B
T3. Team A
T3. Team C

I agree that returning production matters to an extent, but of course it doesn't tell the whole story. You can return your whole team and that is going to make your returning numbers look good, but if you were 4-6, it probably doesn't mean a whole lot. Not saying that is the case with these teams, just my 2 cents.

You definitely can put up good numbers and return good numbers with weak schedules. These 4 teams listed had pretty tough schedules. So there numbers are against quality teams. Thanks for your order on the numbers too.

[Belichick]

Returning players mean a lot sometimes and not so much others. I would guess most had Pikeville running over 1A last season. They lost a ton of “stats” but not sure you can go off returning numbers for them because they had several kids hurt who return and others who step into roles that no one knows yet but they will. I also agree with Patriot that the Panthers will be a problem again. I think Raceland, KCD, and Campbellsville deserve the preseason chatter but Pikeville isn’t rebuilding next year.

[RAMDAD50]

I haven’t really talked much about Racelands season. Everyone thought they would struggle this year and at times they did. This season was fun for me because the kids grew up a lot during the season and they got much better as the season went. The past to season we never really got better. We just kinda started the season and ended the season the same. Sure we done some things during the season that we got better at but as a whole there wasn’t much growth. This past Raceland team got so much better from the start of the season all the way through the last game. The kids were hungry to learn and they absorbed so much. I’d say it was fun for the coaches this past season as well. The next two years will be fun for Raceland fans.

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Here’s a little test for anyone looking and please give ur opinion and order. I’m gonna give some numbers and stats and u want u to rank them 1-4.

Team A- Returns 1248 yards offensively. The defense returns its #2,7,9,10, tacklers from last season with 8 INTs. There quarterback returns as well with 3- Oline starters

Team B- Returns 2605 yards offensively. The defense returns its #1,3,6,8,9,11, tacklers from last year with 5 INTs.  New Quarterback to start with experience with 5 starters on the O-line.

Team C- Returns close to 1400 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,5,7,11 tacklers from last year with 8 INTs.  New Quarterback with limited snaps and 3 starters back on the 0-line.

Team D-  Returns over 3500 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,7,10,11 tacklers from last season with 3 INTS. Quarterback returns with 5 O-line starters back.

Give us your thoughts and after a few rankings them I will tell who they are.

It’s hard to play this game without knowing each team’s schedule but if we had that info we would know each team. I wish you would’ve put the year of each qb starting or expected to start but based on numbers and just throwing out all larger schools on each teams schedule and basing it on class A alone ….here my guess 

Team D 
Team B 
Team A 
Team C

[Stone Jack Baller]

D
B
C
A

[bac2369]

Returning players mean a lot sometimes and not so much others. I would guess most had Pikeville running over 1A last season. They lost a ton of “stats” but not sure you can go off returning numbers for them because they had several kids hurt who return and others who step into roles that no one knows yet but they will. I also agree with Patriot that the Panthers will be a problem again. I think Raceland, KCD, and Campbellsville deserve the preseason chatter but Pikeville isn’t rebuilding next year.

Pikeville had a lot of kids step up and get PT. Pikeville also had several kids play in more than half the games they played expect for maybe 2/3. So I also want to add that every team will have players no one knows yet step into roles so u can’t base it off that it. But that does give you the surprise that many can’t see on paper.

[bac2369]

I haven’t really talked much about Racelands season. Everyone thought they would struggle this year and at times they did. This season was fun for me because the kids grew up a lot during the season and they got much better as the season went. The past to season we never really got better. We just kinda started the season and ended the season the same. Sure we done some things during the season that we got better at but as a whole there wasn’t much growth. This past Raceland team got so much better from the start of the season all the way through the last game. The kids were hungry to learn and they absorbed so much. I’d say it was fun for the coaches this past season as well. The next two years will be fun for Raceland fans.

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Here’s a little test for anyone looking and please give ur opinion and order. I’m gonna give some numbers and stats and u want u to rank them 1-4.

Team A- Returns 1248 yards offensively. The defense returns its #2,7,9,10, tacklers from last season with 8 INTs. There quarterback returns as well with 3- Oline starters

Team B- Returns 2605 yards offensively. The defense returns its #1,3,6,8,9,11, tacklers from last year with 5 INTs.  New Quarterback to start with experience with 5 starters on the O-line.

Team C- Returns close to 1400 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,5,7,11 tacklers from last year with 8 INTs.  New Quarterback with limited snaps and 3 starters back on the 0-line.

Team D-  Returns over 3500 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,7,10,11 tacklers from last season with 3 INTS. Quarterback returns with 5 O-line starters back.

Give us your thoughts and after a few rankings them I will tell who they are.

It’s hard to play this game without knowing each team’s schedule but if we had that info we would know each team. I wish you would’ve put the year of each qb starting or expected to start but based on numbers and just throwing out all larger schools on each teams schedule and basing it on class A alone ….here my guess 

Team D 
Team B 
Team A 
Team C

See that’s the thing with this, I’d bet a 100 bucks the order changes with names. I’ll tell the names in 2 more people putting there order.
But All voters have the same order so far.

[Big Five-0-]

Returning players mean a lot sometimes and not so much others. I would guess most had Pikeville running over 1A last season. They lost a ton of “stats” but not sure you can go off returning numbers for them because they had several kids hurt who return and others who step into roles that no one knows yet but they will. I also agree with Patriot that the Panthers will be a problem again. I think Raceland, KCD, and Campbellsville deserve the preseason chatter but Pikeville isn’t rebuilding next year.

Pikeville had a lot of kids step up and get PT. Pikeville also had several kids play in more than half the games they played expect for maybe 2/3. So  I also want to add that every team will have players no one knows yet step into roles so u can’t base it off that it. But that does give you the surprise that many can’t see on paper.

And many of those games were against some pretty tough competition on one of the most grueling schedules statewide but these young men will benefit from it this season though.

[bac2369]

Returning players mean a lot sometimes and not so much others. I would guess most had Pikeville running over 1A last season. They lost a ton of “stats” but not sure you can go off returning numbers for them because they had several kids hurt who return and others who step into roles that no one knows yet but they will. I also agree with Patriot that the Panthers will be a problem again. I think Raceland, KCD, and Campbellsville deserve the preseason chatter but Pikeville isn’t rebuilding next year.

Pikeville had a lot of kids step up and get PT. Pikeville also had several kids play in more than half the games they played expect for maybe 2/3. So  I also want to add that every team will have players no one knows yet step into roles so u can’t base it off that it. But that does give you the surprise that many can’t see on paper.

And many of those games were against some pretty tough competition on one of the most grueling schedules statewide but these young men will benefit from it this season though.

I agree 110%. They should be ready when called upon.

[bac2369]

Here’s a little test for anyone looking and please give ur opinion and order. I’m gonna give some numbers and stats and u want u to rank them 1-4.

Team A- Returns 1248 yards offensively. The defense returns its #2,7,9,10, tacklers from last season with 8 INTs. There quarterback returns as well with 3- Oline starters

Team B- Returns 2605 yards offensively. The defense returns its #1,3,6,8,9,11, tacklers from last year with 5 INTs. New Quarterback to start with experience with 5 starters on the O-line.

Team C- Returns close to 1400 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,5,7,11 tacklers from last year with 8 INTs. New Quarterback with limited snaps and 3 starters back on the 0-line.

Team D- Returns over 3500 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,7,10,11 tacklers from last season with 3 INTS. Quarterback returns with 5 O-line starters back.

Give us your thoughts and after a few rankings them I will tell who they are.

Jet give us your list out of those 4. I will post the names afterwards.

[Bluecat]

Team D
Team B
Team A
Team C

Biggest key for me is the returning O-Line players

[bac2369]

Here’s a little test for anyone looking and please give ur opinion and order. I’m gonna give some numbers and stats and u want u to rank them 1-4.

Team A- Returns 1248 yards offensively. The defense returns its #2,7,9,10, tacklers from last season with 8 INTs. There quarterback returns as well with 3- Oline starters

Team B- Returns 2605 yards offensively. The defense returns its #1,3,6,8,9,11, tacklers from last year with 5 INTs. New Quarterback to start with experience with 5 starters on the O-line.

Team C- Returns close to 1400 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,5,7,11 tacklers from last year with 8 INTs. New Quarterback with limited snaps and 3 starters back on the 0-line.

Team D- Returns over 3500 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,7,10,11 tacklers from last season with 3 INTS. Quarterback returns with 5 O-line starters back.

Give us your thoughts and after a few rankings them I will tell who they are.

1. Team D
2. Team B
T3. Team A
T3. Team C

I agree that returning production matters to an extent, but of course it doesn't tell the whole story. You can return your whole team and that is going to make your returning numbers look good, but if you were 4-6, it probably doesn't mean a whole lot. Not saying that is the case with these teams, just my 2 cents.

You vote for

1. D- Louisville Holy Cross
2. B- Hazard
3 A- New Cath
3 C- Pikeville

[bac2369]

I haven’t really talked much about Racelands season. Everyone thought they would struggle this year and at times they did. This season was fun for me because the kids grew up a lot during the season and they got much better as the season went. The past to season we never really got better. We just kinda started the season and ended the season the same. Sure we done some things during the season that we got better at but as a whole there wasn’t much growth. This past Raceland team got so much better from the start of the season all the way through the last game. The kids were hungry to learn and they absorbed so much. I’d say it was fun for the coaches this past season as well. The next two years will be fun for Raceland fans.

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Here’s a little test for anyone looking and please give ur opinion and order. I’m gonna give some numbers and stats and u want u to rank them 1-4.

Team A- Returns 1248 yards offensively. The defense returns its #2,7,9,10, tacklers from last season with 8 INTs. There quarterback returns as well with 3- Oline starters

Team B- Returns 2605 yards offensively. The defense returns its #1,3,6,8,9,11, tacklers from last year with 5 INTs.  New Quarterback to start with experience with 5 starters on the O-line.

Team C- Returns close to 1400 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,5,7,11 tacklers from last year with 8 INTs.  New Quarterback with limited snaps and 3 starters back on the 0-line.

Team D-  Returns over 3500 yards offensively. Defense returns its # 2,4,7,10,11 tacklers from last season with 3 INTS. Quarterback returns with 5 O-line starters back.

Give us your thoughts and after a few rankings them I will tell who they are.

It’s hard to play this game without knowing each team’s schedule but if we had that info we would know each team. I wish you would’ve put the year of each qb starting or expected to start but based on numbers and just throwing out all larger schools on each teams schedule and basing it on class A alone ….here my guess 

Team D 
Team B 
Team A 
Team C

1. D- Louisville Holy Cross
2. B- Hazard
3. A- New Cath
4. C- Pikeville

[bac2369]

D
B
C
A

1. Louisville Holy Cross
2. Hazard
3. Pikeville
4. New Cath

[bac2369]

Team D
Team B
Team A
Team C

Biggest key for me is the returning O-Line players

1. D- Louisville Holy Cross
2. B- Hazard
3. A- New Cath
4. C- Pikeville

[Patriot1]

I never said bac does a bad job he studies 1A football like Bull does and they both do a great job I was just giving my opinion

[RAM-A-DEVIL]

There are grants, help from boosters. merit based scholarships, and a lot of different ways. Private schools all have “funding” out there for the right kid. I’m not saying they straight up pay kids to play, but there are things that are set aside to help a bad situation a kid may be in financially. I’m all for it. I think any kid should be able to go wherever they want. That’s the trickle down from the college portal. Even if it is a private school. If a kid can get an opportunity to better themselves let them.

In what universe do you come out ahead dollar-wise attending a $30k/year and up private school over free public school? Time to stop making excuses every time a private school wins anything.

Sure pisses you off though when they can get done in 7 years what you’ve been trying to do for a hundred.

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It’s just talking points fellas….bac isn’t suggesting any kind of success based on who returns what. That’s a lot of effort from bac just so we can have something to discuss during the off season. Good work bac.

Class A was a lot more fun this year in my opinion. I’m glad the super classes are gone and it’s nice to see only a handful of kids that look like they are 35 and have three kids on each team now. It should be more competitive moving forward. Both the Newport teams were a surprise last year. I wonder who will be the surprise team of 2025?

There we go again with the super class. Where was it? Who had one. And also…..moving forward……all the way down to pre school kids are holding back by the droves. That’s not ever going to go away from here on out unless rules are changed.

[jetpilot]

Believe me I don't want Sayre winning Class A ever. Especially when they used RPI to play a JV schedule and get home field throughout last year. Highly motivated to see them go down in 2025.

[ArmChairHC]

“Super classes” I would classify as a group of 5 or more kids that stayed back, that added with an already bigger class. That being said, nothing was done that was against the rules. 1A schools having 15+ kids in a class is very successful in terms of interest in football for a given class. 1A schools with 20+ in each class is pretty unheard of. That has happened now, atleast in the 15-20 kid range, several times over the last few years. Most of those classes having several (not all) 19yo seniors at graduation time. A lot of schools have taken advantage of holding back at a younger age, k-5, which flies things under the radar and doesn’t get noticed. But when it happens during, or leading into the MS years, it draws more attention. My argument still is pro-hold back though. Kids aren’t ready for the real world at 18. Let them get another year before they get thrown into the fiasco that is life in this day and age. If it benefits a football program or so be it. The transfer portal is trickling down, hold backs are the norm, let’s all move on lol

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And imo, the only way Sayre stays consistent in what they did in ‘24 is to hammer the private school ability to talk to whoever you want essentially whenever you want. Lexington has a huge crop of talent and Pennington has shown he can develop it into something very competitive.

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So if he can get kids coming in, it will change the game for them. If not, this big group of talent he had come through will be the last one for awhile.

[RAMDAD50]

There are grants, help from boosters. merit based scholarships, and a lot of different ways. Private schools all have “funding” out there for the right kid. I’m not saying they straight up pay kids to play, but there are things that are set aside to help a bad situation a kid may be in financially. I’m all for it. I think any kid should be able to go wherever they want. That’s the trickle down from the college portal. Even if it is a private school. If a kid can get an opportunity to better themselves let them.

In what universe do you come out ahead dollar-wise attending a $30k/year and up private school over free public school? Time to stop making excuses every time a private school wins anything.

Sure pisses you off though when they can get done in 7 years what you’ve been trying to do for a hundred.

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It’s just talking points fellas….bac isn’t suggesting any kind of success based on who returns what. That’s a lot of effort from bac just so we can have something to discuss during the off season. Good work bac.

Class A was a lot more fun this year in my opinion. I’m glad the super classes are gone and it’s nice to see only a handful of kids that look like they are 35 and have three kids on each team now. It should be more competitive moving forward. Both the Newport teams were a surprise last year. I wonder who will be the surprise team of 2025?

There we go again with the super class. Where was it? Who had one. And also…..moving forward……all the way down to pre school kids are holding back by the droves. That’s not ever going to go away from here on out unless rules are changed.

When you have hold backs and you couple that with the covid year then yes….there were a lot of older kids playing. Nobody broke any rules to do so. I don’t understand why you can’t admit. It doesn’t take anything away from any accomplishments. It’s not an insult to actual talk about the truth. The only reason I said it is because I love small school football. You can go watch these factory schools play and they look like small college teams. There nothing like small town football in the middle of nowhere and that’s usually played with young kids that grow up in front of your eyes while making mistakes. To not acknowledge the fact that the typical age for class a football was a lot older for at least three years is just crazy. It was in all classes

[plantmanky]

There are grants, help from boosters. merit based scholarships, and a lot of different ways. Private schools all have “funding” out there for the right kid. I’m not saying they straight up pay kids to play, but there are things that are set aside to help a bad situation a kid may be in financially. I’m all for it. I think any kid should be able to go wherever they want. That’s the trickle down from the college portal. Even if it is a private school. If a kid can get an opportunity to better themselves let them.

In what universe do you come out ahead dollar-wise attending a $30k/year and up private school over free public school? Time to stop making excuses every time a private school wins anything.

Sure pisses you off though when they can get done in 7 years what you’ve been trying to do for a hundred.

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It’s just talking points fellas….bac isn’t suggesting any kind of success based on who returns what. That’s a lot of effort from bac just so we can have something to discuss during the off season. Good work bac.

Class A was a lot more fun this year in my opinion. I’m glad the super classes are gone and it’s nice to see only a handful of kids that look like they are 35 and have three kids on each team now. It should be more competitive moving forward. Both the Newport teams were a surprise last year. I wonder who will be the surprise team of 2025?

There we go again with the super class. Where was it? Who had one. And also…..moving forward……all the way down to pre school kids are holding back by the droves. That’s not ever going to go away from here on out unless rules are changed.

When you have hold backs and you couple that with the covid year then yes….there were a lot of older kids playing. Nobody broke any rules to do so. I don’t understand why you can’t admit. It doesn’t take anything away from any accomplishments. It’s not an insult to actual talk about the truth. The only reason I said it is because I love small school football. You can go watch these factory schools play and they look like small college teams. There nothing like small town football in the middle of nowhere and that’s usually played with young kids that grow up in front of your eyes while making mistakes. To not acknowledge the fact that the typical age for class a football was a lot older for at least three years is just crazy. It was in all classes

You sure about that?