[Ky1976]

So, pollsters, what's the verdict on A-TOWN vs. THE COUNTY part 2? Who's taking the crown this time? And can THE COUNTY keep it close, or are we in for another blow out? 

[Strikeout King]

Who the hell is Atown and the county?

[Ky1976]

Alright, Strikeout King, let me break it down for you—APB (Ashland-A-Town) vs BC (Boyd-The County) is like the basketball version of a Shakespearean drama, full of passion, rivalry, and unexpected plot twists. If this doesn’t help you understand the most beautiful rivalry in the 16th region—and possibly the state—then maybe, I’ll just have to send you a mixtape of highlights to seal the deal!

[4 Quarters]

And this one belongs to A-Town. I might add by a good margin.

[-STAT-]

So when do these 2 teams play again?

[Ky1976]

Looks like the strike out king fixed this so it was more understandable for the not so fluent everyday fan. But if you know you know A-Town vs THE COUNTY part 2 of 4 will be held this Friday starting around 7:30 at the legendary J Anderson gymnasium. Let’s go man this is fun. ?

[Fanman]

IMO, this game depends completely on how Boyd shoots. They will shoot 30+ 3's, and if they are hitting, then who knows. I look for Zander Carter to guard Spurlock again, so he will be limited on his looks. That means Hicks, Holbrook, and Childers will have to consistently score for Boyd.

I hope for a good game, i'll take Ashland.

[i82much]

Who the hell is Atown and the county?

My guess would be the two teams listed in the thread that you clicked on.
Or maybe the thread title was changed? if so, my bad.

[Fanman]

Who the hell is Atown and the county?

My guess would be the two teams listed in the thread that you clicked on.
Or maybe the thread title was changed? if so, my bad.

Thread title was changed by Strikeout King

[Hooperregion]

If BC had multiple players hitting and they actually play defense then it’s a toss up if APB is also playing well. But I haven’t seen a consistent defensive game from them yet this season. Athletic and capable of playing great defense but just haven’t seen what I think they are capable of.
Likewise from APB they seem to play defense consistently but can be all over offensively. Against Lincoln they couldn’t miss but then struggled to score consistently against Pike.
Gonna be a battle and interesting to see how they show up.

[HOOPFAN]

Should be a good game, I think it will come down to two things. Shot making and defensive stops. The team that does that will win this game. Ashland (Neel has never been on the roster/eligible so I do not count him.) has its entire roster and so will Boyd (minus Huff who is out for the season).

[Fanman]

Should be a good game, I think it will come down to two things.  Shot making and defensive stops.  The team that does that will win this game. Ashland (Neel has never been on the roster/eligible so I do not count him.) has its entire roster and so will Boyd (minus Huff who is out for the season).

Neel is still fighting eligibility apparently. I hope Taylor can go full strength for Boyd, watched him last night a little and he looked to be limping quite a bit.

[Ky1976]

In A-Town, where the spirit soars higher than the last-minute buzzer-beater and the heartbeats of unity echo louder than the referee’s whistle, their dominance over the little brother, THE COUNTY, is basically a family tradition at this point. Each victory? It’s like a rock concert and just a hint of smug satisfaction in the air. It’s a heartwarming celebration of triumph and togetherness, where every win is like a new chapter in the never-ending saga of A-Town making sure THE COUNTY remembers who’s boss and their daddy. Long live the legacy and long live the friendly rivalry!

[Gambit]

This will be a shoot around for Jacob spurlock. But it’ll be a close W for A-town, and Zander carter will just continue to dominate.

[HOOPFAN]

Should be a good game, I think it will come down to two things.  Shot making and defensive stops.  The team that does that will win this game. Ashland (Neel has never been on the roster/eligible so I do not count him.) has its entire roster and so will Boyd (minus Huff who is out for the season).

Neel is still fighting eligibility apparently. I hope Taylor can go full strength for Boyd, watched him last night a little and he looked to be limping quite a bit.

He is noticeably and quite a bit. I give the kid credit for trying to return to make one last run with his teammates. He is a great kid and an awesome teammate.

[Ky1976]

:woah: :woah: :woah: :woah: :woah: :woah:

[Ky1976]

A-Town vs THE COUNTY—just 24 hours until the highly anticipated showdown, and this is shaping up to be nothing short of legendary! Will THE COUNTY finally get in the win column, or will A-Town extend their reign of dominance, leaving THE COUNTY wondering if they need to bring in HC J Wallace a little sooner than planned? Perhaps it’s time to expedite that Ohio player they’ve got, who could very well step into the shoes of the last Buckeye who graced their roster, and finally give A-Town a taste of their own medicine remember BC winning 2018 year.

[HOOPFAN]

A-Town vs THE COUNTY—just 24 hours until the highly anticipated showdown, and this is shaping up to be nothing short of legendary! Will THE COUNTY finally get in the win column, or will A-Town extend their reign of dominance, leaving THE COUNTY wondering if they need to bring in HC J Wallace a little sooner than planned? Perhaps it’s time to expedite that Ohio player they’ve got, who could very well step into the shoes of the last Buckeye who graced their roster, and finally give A-Town a taste of their own medicine remember BC winning 2018 year.

Can Ashland narrow the gap to the past five games. BC 3-2 in the last 5. Will BC push it to 4-2 after tonight or does APB even the series 3-3. They will play at least 1 more time for district where BC has won the past 2 District Championships. Can both teams escape upsets in the Region this year or will we get a chance to see two more games after tonight. We will see. Ashland will not start 1 single Ashland kid tonight or have them in the top 7 or 8 in the rotation.

ALL AREA TEAM. Tonight, in the BC vs Ashland game the 16th region will be well represented. Oh yes, none of these guys every moved. Thank you KHSAA for supporting the ATOWN- (The All Area Team) LOL
Carter-Greenup County
Davis-Boyd County
Smith- Boyd County
Clarke-Boyd County
LaLonde-Boyd County
Hoskins-Morgan County
Hughes-South Point
Neel- Russell (if eligible)
Lyons-Ashland

[Hooperregion]

A-Town vs THE COUNTY—just 24 hours until the highly anticipated showdown, and this is shaping up to be nothing short of legendary! Will THE COUNTY finally get in the win column, or will A-Town extend their reign of dominance, leaving THE COUNTY wondering if they need to bring in HC J Wallace a little sooner than planned? Perhaps it’s time to expedite that Ohio player they’ve got, who could very well step into the shoes of the last Buckeye who graced their roster, and finally give A-Town a taste of their own medicine remember BC winning 2018 year.

Can Ashland narrow the gap to the past five games. BC 3-2 in the last 5. Will BC push it to 4-2 after tonight or does APB even the series 3-3. They will play at least 1 more time for district where BC has won the past 2 District Championships. Can both teams escape upsets in the Region this year or will we get a chance to see two more games after tonight.  We will see.  Ashland will not start 1 single Ashland kid tonight or have them in the top 7 or 8 in the rotation.

ALL AREA TEAM. Tonight, in the BC vs Ashland game the 16th region will be well represented. Oh yes, none of these guys every moved. Thank you KHSAA for supporting the ATOWN- (The All Area Team) LOL
Carter-Greenup County
Davis-Boyd County
Smith- Boyd County
Clarke-Boyd County
LaLonde-Boyd County
Hoskins-Morgan County
Hughes-South Point
Neel- Russell (if eligible)
Lyons-Ashland

I understand the point you are making about kids not being lifelong players/students at Ashland, and APB does get a lot of kids moving into district or transferring more than others. But I guess I just don’t see why a school gets to claim a kid for life? Families move, parents get new jobs, ect. Childers is a South Point kid, he only did 1 year at expressions. He came for his senior year only. So BC has similar kids. Teams like Lewis and Elliott are almost the only complete homegrown teams. If every kid has to stay at the school they started then a lot of kids wouldn’t be where they are now. This is not a recruitment debate, just a conversation about how schools want to claim kids for life.How many years does a kid have to be at a school in order to be considered homegrown?

[Ky1976]

If THE COUNTY is truly as great as it’s often described, why would these four kids choose to leave for A-Town? What’s missing, or what’s driving them to seek opportunities elsewhere if everything is supposedly top-tier at home?

If all these kids have moved for various reasons and the KHSAA doesn’t find fault, it sounds like someone might be a bit butthurt—cough HOOPFAN. From the outside looking in, it seems like THE COUNTY (and HOOPFAN) didn’t want these four kids at THE COUNTY and doesn’t want them at A-Town either. Could this be a very possible scenario? It’s hard not to wonder if there’s more to the story than HOOPFAN wants to acknowledge and just continues to say recruiting, recruiting, recruiting, and yes, I have heard the audio, by psycho dad and a basketball coach.

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A little story about tonight.


It was January 31st, 2025 7:30 pm at the famous Anderson Gymnasium—an evening that would live in infamy for HOOPFAN. As A-Town completely dismantled his beloved LIONS once again completing the sweep, the poor guy was clutching his stomach, his face turning every shade of green as he watched his team get steamrolled. The final blow? Morehead's TOMCATS cutting down the nets once again, leaving HOOPFAN questioning not only his loyalty but his life choices. The poor guy couldn't handle it—next thing you know, he's on a so-called "medical leave," which, let’s be honest, looked more like a retreat to lick his wounds. Rumor has it, he's already scouting the 15th region for next year, hoping the drama's a little less... explosive. Somewhere, he’s probably Googling "How to deal with defeat and avoid another stomach ulcer." Man, this is fun!!!!!

[Hooperregion]

A-Town vs THE COUNTY—just 24 hours until the highly anticipated showdown, and this is shaping up to be nothing short of legendary! Will THE COUNTY finally get in the win column, or will A-Town extend their reign of dominance, leaving THE COUNTY wondering if they need to bring in HC J Wallace a little sooner than planned? Perhaps it’s time to expedite that Ohio player they’ve got, who could very well step into the shoes of the last Buckeye who graced their roster, and finally give A-Town a taste of their own medicine remember BC winning 2018 year.

Can Ashland narrow the gap to the past five games. BC 3-2 in the last 5. Will BC push it to 4-2 after tonight or does APB even the series 3-3. They will play at least 1 more time for district where BC has won the past 2 District Championships. Can both teams escape upsets in the Region this year or will we get a chance to see two more games after tonight.  We will see.  Ashland will not start 1 single Ashland kid tonight or have them in the top 7 or 8 in the rotation.

ALL AREA TEAM. Tonight, in the BC vs Ashland game the 16th region will be well represented. Oh yes, none of these guys every moved. Thank you KHSAA for supporting the ATOWN- (The All Area Team) LOL
Carter-Greenup County
Davis-Boyd County
Smith- Boyd County
Clarke-Boyd County
LaLonde-Boyd County
Hoskins-Morgan County
Hughes-South Point
Neel- Russell (if eligible)
Lyons-Ashland

I understand the point you are making about kids not being lifelong players/students at Ashland, and APB does get a lot of kids moving into district or transferring more than others. But I guess I just don’t see why a school gets to claim a kid for life? Families move, parents get new jobs, ect. Childers is a South Point kid, he only did 1 year at expressions. He came for his senior year only. So BC has similar kids. Teams like Lewis and Elliott are almost the only complete homegrown teams. If every kid has to stay at the school they started then a lot of kids wouldn’t be where they are now. This is not a recruitment debate, just a conversation about how schools want to claim kids for life.How many years does a kid have to be at a school in order to be considered homegrown?

[HOOPFAN]

A-Town vs THE COUNTY—just 24 hours until the highly anticipated showdown, and this is shaping up to be nothing short of legendary! Will THE COUNTY finally get in the win column, or will A-Town extend their reign of dominance, leaving THE COUNTY wondering if they need to bring in HC J Wallace a little sooner than planned? Perhaps it’s time to expedite that Ohio player they’ve got, who could very well step into the shoes of the last Buckeye who graced their roster, and finally give A-Town a taste of their own medicine remember BC winning 2018 year.

Can Ashland narrow the gap to the past five games. BC 3-2 in the last 5. Will BC push it to 4-2 after tonight or does APB even the series 3-3. They will play at least 1 more time for district where BC has won the past 2 District Championships. Can both teams escape upsets in the Region this year or will we get a chance to see two more games after tonight.  We will see.  Ashland will not start 1 single Ashland kid tonight or have them in the top 7 or 8 in the rotation.

ALL AREA TEAM. Tonight, in the BC vs Ashland game the 16th region will be well represented. Oh yes, none of these guys every moved. Thank you KHSAA for supporting the ATOWN- (The All Area Team) LOL
Carter-Greenup County
Davis-Boyd County
Smith- Boyd County
Clarke-Boyd County
LaLonde-Boyd County
Hoskins-Morgan County
Hughes-South Point
Neel- Russell (if eligible)
Lyons-Ashland

I understand the point you are making about kids not being lifelong players/students at Ashland, and APB does get a lot of kids moving into district or transferring more than others. But I guess I just don’t see why a school gets to claim a kid for life? Families move, parents get new jobs, ect. Childers is a South Point kid, he only did 1 year at expressions. He came for his senior year only. So BC has similar kids. Teams like Lewis and Elliott are almost the only complete homegrown teams. If every kid has to stay at the school they started then a lot of kids wouldn’t be where they are now. This is not a recruitment debate, just a conversation about how schools want to claim kids for life.How many years does a kid have to be at a school in order to be considered homegrown?

I wouldn't say life. I would say from the list above. NEEL, HOSKINS, SMITH, HUGHES all played somewhere else the year before. No so-called transfer/recruit came in while the year prior on probation from recruiting and multiple attempts of actively trying to get kids to come there from coaches. Ironic, I know. Not one kid that year wanted to move in. Even though, years prior and after they did. Out of this list it has been shown all have been recruited but the Clarke kid who left because of SMITHS Dad/brother. Lalonde-however it was mentioned he was contacted by prior coach. OH YEAH .....NO ONE MOVED. Imagine ruining a kid's life who always wanted to be a Tomcat that has went through the program and never get to play in high school because by the time you get to middle school, they are seeking everyone's best 8th grader. WHY? Cause you get around doing any KHSAA paperwork and you don't have to move.

[i82much]

A-Town vs THE COUNTY—just 24 hours until the highly anticipated showdown, and this is shaping up to be nothing short of legendary! Will THE COUNTY finally get in the win column, or will A-Town extend their reign of dominance, leaving THE COUNTY wondering if they need to bring in HC J Wallace a little sooner than planned? Perhaps it’s time to expedite that Ohio player they’ve got, who could very well step into the shoes of the last Buckeye who graced their roster, and finally give A-Town a taste of their own medicine remember BC winning 2018 year.

Can Ashland narrow the gap to the past five games. BC 3-2 in the last 5. Will BC push it to 4-2 after tonight or does APB even the series 3-3. They will play at least 1 more time for district where BC has won the past 2 District Championships. Can both teams escape upsets in the Region this year or will we get a chance to see two more games after tonight.  We will see.  Ashland will not start 1 single Ashland kid tonight or have them in the top 7 or 8 in the rotation.

ALL AREA TEAM. Tonight, in the BC vs Ashland game the 16th region will be well represented. Oh yes, none of these guys every moved. Thank you KHSAA for supporting the ATOWN- (The All Area Team) LOL
Carter-Greenup County
Davis-Boyd County
Smith- Boyd County
Clarke-Boyd County
LaLonde-Boyd County
Hoskins-Morgan County
Hughes-South Point
Neel- Russell (if eligible)
Lyons-Ashland

I understand the point you are making about kids not being lifelong players/students at Ashland, and APB does get a lot of kids moving into district or transferring more than others. But I guess I just don’t see why a school gets to claim a kid for life? Families move, parents get new jobs, ect. Childers is a South Point kid, he only did 1 year at expressions. He came for his senior year only. So BC has similar kids. Teams like Lewis and Elliott are almost the only complete homegrown teams. If every kid has to stay at the school they started then a lot of kids wouldn’t be where they are now. This is not a recruitment debate, just a conversation about how schools want to claim kids for life.How many years does a kid have to be at a school in order to be considered homegrown?

No need to debate here, as long as he can find a shred of truth in his mind then that's the way it is. For example, I don't mention kids names but one of the kids on this list has a mother that teaches and coaches basketball in Ashland. She also graduated from Blazer and is their second all time leading scorer. She is the definition of a lifelong Tomcat. But....because she taught at Boyd County and her son went to school there he is now inherently Boyd County's property. Makes sense? you bet!!  It's kind of a shame that he always goes back to this stuff. When he just talks basketball I kind of like reading his comments. Hard to sift through the rhetoric though...

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As for the game tonight, if both teams play their best Ashland wins. They're just better. But not better in a sense that they can overcome the truth that "on a given night anything can happen". One of Ashland's best defensive players left the team to concentrate on his football future which is a good decision but it does hurt Ashland in this game. It will be closer than the last game but I believe Ashland pulls away down the stretch...but...a close Boyd County win wouldn't surprise me.

[HOOPFAN]

A-Town vs THE COUNTY—just 24 hours until the highly anticipated showdown, and this is shaping up to be nothing short of legendary! Will THE COUNTY finally get in the win column, or will A-Town extend their reign of dominance, leaving THE COUNTY wondering if they need to bring in HC J Wallace a little sooner than planned? Perhaps it’s time to expedite that Ohio player they’ve got, who could very well step into the shoes of the last Buckeye who graced their roster, and finally give A-Town a taste of their own medicine remember BC winning 2018 year.

Can Ashland narrow the gap to the past five games. BC 3-2 in the last 5. Will BC push it to 4-2 after tonight or does APB even the series 3-3. They will play at least 1 more time for district where BC has won the past 2 District Championships. Can both teams escape upsets in the Region this year or will we get a chance to see two more games after tonight.  We will see.  Ashland will not start 1 single Ashland kid tonight or have them in the top 7 or 8 in the rotation.

ALL AREA TEAM. Tonight, in the BC vs Ashland game the 16th region will be well represented. Oh yes, none of these guys every moved. Thank you KHSAA for supporting the ATOWN- (The All Area Team) LOL
Carter-Greenup County
Davis-Boyd County
Smith- Boyd County
Clarke-Boyd County
LaLonde-Boyd County
Hoskins-Morgan County
Hughes-South Point
Neel- Russell (if eligible)
Lyons-Ashland

I understand the point you are making about kids not being lifelong players/students at Ashland, and APB does get a lot of kids moving into district or transferring more than others. But I guess I just don’t see why a school gets to claim a kid for life? Families move, parents get new jobs, ect. Childers is a South Point kid, he only did 1 year at expressions. He came for his senior year only. So BC has similar kids. Teams like Lewis and Elliott are almost the only complete homegrown teams. If every kid has to stay at the school they started then a lot of kids wouldn’t be where they are now. This is not a recruitment debate, just a conversation about how schools want to claim kids for life.How many years does a kid have to be at a school in order to be considered homegrown?

No need to debate here, as long as he can find a shred of truth in his mind then that's the way it is. For example, I don't mention kids names but one of the kids on this list has a mother that teaches and coaches basketball in Ashland. She also graduated from Blazer and is their second all time leading scorer. She is the definition of a lifelong Tomcat. But....because she taught at Boyd County and her son went to school there he is now inherently Boyd County's property. Makes sense? you bet!!  It's kind of a shame that he always goes back to this stuff. When he just talks basketball I kind of like reading his comments. Hard to sift through the rhetoric though...

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As for the game tonight, if both teams play their best Ashland wins. They're just better. But not better in a sense that they can overcome the truth that "on a given night anything can happen". One of Ashland's best defensive players left the team to concentrate on his football future which is a good decision but it does hurt Ashland in this game. It will be closer than the last game but I believe Ashland pulls away down the stretch...but...a close Boyd County win wouldn't surprise me.

I do agree with what you are saying. I would rather talk about basketball. Here is something to ponder after watching the Morgan Co game. since talking about some of the movement and if it is truly better for the player.

Hoskins- After watching him play at APB vs if he played his Senior year at Morgan. IMO it has truly hindered his development as a player if he is wanting to go to the next level. Which from what I have heard is what he wants to do. At Ashland, he is only a catch and shoot kid. He only has a handful of 2pt field goal attempts going into the last 3rd of the season. If at Morgan he would be forced to do other things such as handle the ball more, drive the basket, be more of a rebounder and passer. The kid can stroke it from 3 but playing on this team that is all he does.

Smith-with the injury to Taylor and Huff. Smith would be a starter at BC. Just like Hoskins, he would be in more of position to handle the ball more and be a true point guard instead of Carter bringing the ball down the floor majority of the time. This would have only helped him develop more as a point guard. Due to is size, he would not be a SG at the next level if he wanted to play after HS. I don't know if he does or not.

Neel-I don't think I need to say anything about this. I would say his parents are kicking themselves in the butt right now. Going from a Two year starter to playing JV and getting no varsity clock has been a wasted year. That is even if he plays this year later down the road.

Everyone's road is different for sure, but parents get in the way ruin relationships with teammates and communities for the sake of what? Winning a Region? How does winning a Region benefit the above guys I mentioned in this thread. It doesn't IMO. In addition to ruining friendships and relationships. Remember these are HS kids. I am not saying small colleges don't recruit from watching High School games. They do. Most Mid Majors and Power 5 schools go to the high level AAU programs to see thousands of the best under one roof. Not just showing up in APB or BC or any other HS for that matter because they heard of kid. They have watched them play AAU and then gain interest. Not the other way around.

IDK about the HUGHES situation. I am not familiar with his situation at South Point.

[Hooperregion]

A-Town vs THE COUNTY—just 24 hours until the highly anticipated showdown, and this is shaping up to be nothing short of legendary! Will THE COUNTY finally get in the win column, or will A-Town extend their reign of dominance, leaving THE COUNTY wondering if they need to bring in HC J Wallace a little sooner than planned? Perhaps it’s time to expedite that Ohio player they’ve got, who could very well step into the shoes of the last Buckeye who graced their roster, and finally give A-Town a taste of their own medicine remember BC winning 2018 year.

Can Ashland narrow the gap to the past five games. BC 3-2 in the last 5. Will BC push it to 4-2 after tonight or does APB even the series 3-3. They will play at least 1 more time for district where BC has won the past 2 District Championships. Can both teams escape upsets in the Region this year or will we get a chance to see two more games after tonight.  We will see.  Ashland will not start 1 single Ashland kid tonight or have them in the top 7 or 8 in the rotation.

ALL AREA TEAM. Tonight, in the BC vs Ashland game the 16th region will be well represented. Oh yes, none of these guys every moved. Thank you KHSAA for supporting the ATOWN- (The All Area Team) LOL
Carter-Greenup County
Davis-Boyd County
Smith- Boyd County
Clarke-Boyd County
LaLonde-Boyd County
Hoskins-Morgan County
Hughes-South Point
Neel- Russell (if eligible)
Lyons-Ashland

I understand the point you are making about kids not being lifelong players/students at Ashland, and APB does get a lot of kids moving into district or transferring more than others. But I guess I just don’t see why a school gets to claim a kid for life? Families move, parents get new jobs, ect. Childers is a South Point kid, he only did 1 year at expressions. He came for his senior year only. So BC has similar kids. Teams like Lewis and Elliott are almost the only complete homegrown teams. If every kid has to stay at the school they started then a lot of kids wouldn’t be where they are now. This is not a recruitment debate, just a conversation about how schools want to claim kids for life.How many years does a kid have to be at a school in order to be considered homegrown?

No need to debate here, as long as he can find a shred of truth in his mind then that's the way it is. For example, I don't mention kids names but one of the kids on this list has a mother that teaches and coaches basketball in Ashland. She also graduated from Blazer and is their second all time leading scorer. She is the definition of a lifelong Tomcat. But....because she taught at Boyd County and her son went to school there he is now inherently Boyd County's property. Makes sense? you bet!!  It's kind of a shame that he always goes back to this stuff. When he just talks basketball I kind of like reading his comments. Hard to sift through the rhetoric though...

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As for the game tonight, if both teams play their best Ashland wins. They're just better. But not better in a sense that they can overcome the truth that "on a given night anything can happen". One of Ashland's best defensive players left the team to concentrate on his football future which is a good decision but it does hurt Ashland in this game. It will be closer than the last game but I believe Ashland pulls away down the stretch...but...a close Boyd County win wouldn't surprise me.

I do agree with what you are saying. I would rather talk about basketball. Here is something to ponder after watching the Morgan Co game. since talking about some of the movement and if it is truly better for the player.

Hoskins- After watching him play at APB vs if he played his Senior year at Morgan. IMO it has truly hindered his development as a player if he is wanting to go to the next level. Which from what I have heard is what he wants to do. At Ashland, he is only a catch and shoot kid. He only has a handful of 2pt field goal attempts going into the last 3rd of the season. If at Morgan he would be forced to do other things such as handle the ball more, drive the basket, be more of a rebounder and passer. The kid can stroke it from 3 but playing on this team that is all he does.

Smith-with the injury to Taylor and Huff. Smith would be a starter at BC. Just like Hoskins, he would be in more of position to handle the ball more and be a true point guard instead of Carter bringing the ball down the floor majority of the time. This would have only helped him develop more as a point guard. Due to is size, he would not be a SG at the next level if he wanted to play after HS. I don't know if he does or not.

Neel-I don't think I need to say anything about this. I would say his parents are kicking themselves in the butt right now. Going from a Two year starter to playing JV and getting no varsity clock has been a wasted year. That is even if he plays this year later down the road.

Everyone's road is different for sure, but parents get in the way ruin relationships with teammates and communities for the sake of what? Winning a Region? How does winning a Region benefit the above guys I mentioned in this thread. It doesn't IMO. In addition to ruining friendships and relationships. Remember these are HS kids. I am not saying small colleges don't recruit from watching High School games. They do. Most Mid Majors and Power 5 schools go to the high level AAU programs to see thousands of the best under one roof. Not just showing up in APB or BC or any other HS for that matter because they heard of kid. They have watched them play AAU and then gain interest. Not the other way around.

IDK about the HUGHES situation. I am not familiar with his situation at South Point.

Interesting perspective. Have you actually spoken with any of these kids or families? I personally have spoken with 2 of them. And your opinions are not correct. But opinions are the right of everyone, but remember they are opinions and until you speak to the actual source you can’t claim facts.

[HOOPFAN]

Can Ashland narrow the gap to the past five games. BC 3-2 in the last 5. Will BC push it to 4-2 after tonight or does APB even the series 3-3. They will play at least 1 more time for district where BC has won the past 2 District Championships. Can both teams escape upsets in the Region this year or will we get a chance to see two more games after tonight.  We will see.  Ashland will not start 1 single Ashland kid tonight or have them in the top 7 or 8 in the rotation.

ALL AREA TEAM. Tonight, in the BC vs Ashland game the 16th region will be well represented. Oh yes, none of these guys every moved. Thank you KHSAA for supporting the ATOWN- (The All Area Team) LOL
Carter-Greenup County
Davis-Boyd County
Smith- Boyd County
Clarke-Boyd County
LaLonde-Boyd County
Hoskins-Morgan County
Hughes-South Point
Neel- Russell (if eligible)
Lyons-Ashland

I understand the point you are making about kids not being lifelong players/students at Ashland, and APB does get a lot of kids moving into district or transferring more than others. But I guess I just don’t see why a school gets to claim a kid for life? Families move, parents get new jobs, ect. Childers is a South Point kid, he only did 1 year at expressions. He came for his senior year only. So BC has similar kids. Teams like Lewis and Elliott are almost the only complete homegrown teams. If every kid has to stay at the school they started then a lot of kids wouldn’t be where they are now. This is not a recruitment debate, just a conversation about how schools want to claim kids for life.How many years does a kid have to be at a school in order to be considered homegrown?

No need to debate here, as long as he can find a shred of truth in his mind then that's the way it is. For example, I don't mention kids names but one of the kids on this list has a mother that teaches and coaches basketball in Ashland. She also graduated from Blazer and is their second all time leading scorer. She is the definition of a lifelong Tomcat. But....because she taught at Boyd County and her son went to school there he is now inherently Boyd County's property. Makes sense? you bet!!  It's kind of a shame that he always goes back to this stuff. When he just talks basketball I kind of like reading his comments. Hard to sift through the rhetoric though...

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As for the game tonight, if both teams play their best Ashland wins. They're just better. But not better in a sense that they can overcome the truth that "on a given night anything can happen". One of Ashland's best defensive players left the team to concentrate on his football future which is a good decision but it does hurt Ashland in this game. It will be closer than the last game but I believe Ashland pulls away down the stretch...but...a close Boyd County win wouldn't surprise me.

I do agree with what you are saying. I would rather talk about basketball. Here is something to ponder after watching the Morgan Co game. since talking about some of the movement and if it is truly better for the player.

Hoskins- After watching him play at APB vs if he played his Senior year at Morgan. IMO it has truly hindered his development as a player if he is wanting to go to the next level. Which from what I have heard is what he wants to do. At Ashland, he is only a catch and shoot kid. He only has a handful of 2pt field goal attempts going into the last 3rd of the season. If at Morgan he would be forced to do other things such as handle the ball more, drive the basket, be more of a rebounder and passer. The kid can stroke it from 3 but playing on this team that is all he does.

Smith-with the injury to Taylor and Huff. Smith would be a starter at BC. Just like Hoskins, he would be in more of position to handle the ball more and be a true point guard instead of Carter bringing the ball down the floor majority of the time. This would have only helped him develop more as a point guard. Due to is size, he would not be a SG at the next level if he wanted to play after HS. I don't know if he does or not.

Neel-I don't think I need to say anything about this. I would say his parents are kicking themselves in the butt right now. Going from a Two year starter to playing JV and getting no varsity clock has been a wasted year. That is even if he plays this year later down the road.

Everyone's road is different for sure, but parents get in the way ruin relationships with teammates and communities for the sake of what? Winning a Region? How does winning a Region benefit the above guys I mentioned in this thread. It doesn't IMO. In addition to ruining friendships and relationships. Remember these are HS kids. I am not saying small colleges don't recruit from watching High School games. They do. Most Mid Majors and Power 5 schools go to the high level AAU programs to see thousands of the best under one roof. Not just showing up in APB or BC or any other HS for that matter because they heard of kid. They have watched them play AAU and then gain interest. Not the other way around.

IDK about the HUGHES situation. I am not familiar with his situation at South Point.

Interesting perspective. Have you actually spoken with any of these kids or families? I personally have spoken with 2 of them. And your opinions are not correct. But opinions are the right of everyone, but remember they are opinions and until you speak to the actual source you can’t claim facts.

The development is my opinion. That is what IMO stands for. Since you have spoken with two of them. Tell me what is not accurate? Neel, Smith, Hoskins? How have they developed more or grown more as a player at APB. Again it’s just talking perspective and opinions. Obviously I’m wrong on something. Please discuss

[i82much]

A-Town vs THE COUNTY—just 24 hours until the highly anticipated showdown, and this is shaping up to be nothing short of legendary! Will THE COUNTY finally get in the win column, or will A-Town extend their reign of dominance, leaving THE COUNTY wondering if they need to bring in HC J Wallace a little sooner than planned? Perhaps it’s time to expedite that Ohio player they’ve got, who could very well step into the shoes of the last Buckeye who graced their roster, and finally give A-Town a taste of their own medicine remember BC winning 2018 year.

Can Ashland narrow the gap to the past five games. BC 3-2 in the last 5. Will BC push it to 4-2 after tonight or does APB even the series 3-3. They will play at least 1 more time for district where BC has won the past 2 District Championships. Can both teams escape upsets in the Region this year or will we get a chance to see two more games after tonight.  We will see.  Ashland will not start 1 single Ashland kid tonight or have them in the top 7 or 8 in the rotation.

ALL AREA TEAM. Tonight, in the BC vs Ashland game the 16th region will be well represented. Oh yes, none of these guys every moved. Thank you KHSAA for supporting the ATOWN- (The All Area Team) LOL
Carter-Greenup County
Davis-Boyd County
Smith- Boyd County
Clarke-Boyd County
LaLonde-Boyd County
Hoskins-Morgan County
Hughes-South Point
Neel- Russell (if eligible)
Lyons-Ashland

I understand the point you are making about kids not being lifelong players/students at Ashland, and APB does get a lot of kids moving into district or transferring more than others. But I guess I just don’t see why a school gets to claim a kid for life? Families move, parents get new jobs, ect. Childers is a South Point kid, he only did 1 year at expressions. He came for his senior year only. So BC has similar kids. Teams like Lewis and Elliott are almost the only complete homegrown teams. If every kid has to stay at the school they started then a lot of kids wouldn’t be where they are now. This is not a recruitment debate, just a conversation about how schools want to claim kids for life.How many years does a kid have to be at a school in order to be considered homegrown?

No need to debate here, as long as he can find a shred of truth in his mind then that's the way it is. For example, I don't mention kids names but one of the kids on this list has a mother that teaches and coaches basketball in Ashland. She also graduated from Blazer and is their second all time leading scorer. She is the definition of a lifelong Tomcat. But....because she taught at Boyd County and her son went to school there he is now inherently Boyd County's property. Makes sense? you bet!!  It's kind of a shame that he always goes back to this stuff. When he just talks basketball I kind of like reading his comments. Hard to sift through the rhetoric though...

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As for the game tonight, if both teams play their best Ashland wins. They're just better. But not better in a sense that they can overcome the truth that "on a given night anything can happen". One of Ashland's best defensive players left the team to concentrate on his football future which is a good decision but it does hurt Ashland in this game. It will be closer than the last game but I believe Ashland pulls away down the stretch...but...a close Boyd County win wouldn't surprise me.

I do agree with what you are saying. I would rather talk about basketball. Here is something to ponder after watching the Morgan Co game. since talking about some of the movement and if it is truly better for the player.

Hoskins- After watching him play at APB vs if he played his Senior year at Morgan. IMO it has truly hindered his development as a player if he is wanting to go to the next level. Which from what I have heard is what he wants to do. At Ashland, he is only a catch and shoot kid. He only has a handful of 2pt field goal attempts going into the last 3rd of the season. If at Morgan he would be forced to do other things such as handle the ball more, drive the basket, be more of a rebounder and passer. The kid can stroke it from 3 but playing on this team that is all he does.

Smith-with the injury to Taylor and Huff. Smith would be a starter at BC. Just like Hoskins, he would be in more of position to handle the ball more and be a true point guard instead of Carter bringing the ball down the floor majority of the time. This would have only helped him develop more as a point guard. Due to is size, he would not be a SG at the next level if he wanted to play after HS. I don't know if he does or not.

Neel-I don't think I need to say anything about this. I would say his parents are kicking themselves in the butt right now. Going from a Two year starter to playing JV and getting no varsity clock has been a wasted year. That is even if he plays this year later down the road.

Everyone's road is different for sure, but parents get in the way ruin relationships with teammates and communities for the sake of what? Winning a Region? How does winning a Region benefit the above guys I mentioned in this thread. It doesn't IMO. In addition to ruining friendships and relationships. Remember these are HS kids. I am not saying small colleges don't recruit from watching High School games. They do. Most Mid Majors and Power 5 schools go to the high level AAU programs to see thousands of the best under one roof. Not just showing up in APB or BC or any other HS for that matter because they heard of kid. They have watched them play AAU and then gain interest. Not the other way around.

IDK about the HUGHES situation. I am not familiar with his situation at South Point.

I don't know about all this and it's not my business and I have no interest in trying to discuss whether a family made a correct tough life decision, especially after the fact and on a public forum. You seem knowledgeable but are not using any wisdom at all.

[Ky1976]

HOOPFAN is talking about the experience adults have with Coach A at THE COUNTY no structure, the culture is horrible, and some dads just trying muscle (?) over everyone till they get what they want. He will reply about dads at APB doing the same and the recurring issues with recruiting. Dude can’t past his own faults. A dad accomplished his goal of getting JM run off but what he didn’t think would happen did and more than likely it will again this year. Ashland will beat Boyd at the regional tournament again and dad can play the Justin Timberlake song cry me a river. But once again rumor has it kid will transfer to the 15th. Pot calling kettle black and HOOPFAN will drift away like Dobie Gray song.

Man this is fun.

[Fanman]

Ashland 85
Boyd Co 76

[Ky1976]

HOOPFAN looks like the home grown talent from Ohio was the difference maker DEJA VU 2018