[TheTruth!]

What’s next for Coach Hoskins?

[Redneck]

I saw someone say that they may hire Brian Melvin to try and keep Johnson There but I heard from a very reliable source that Alex Johnson Plans on moving anytime soon. So they may not take that into account when making the hire now.

He’s going to tour Prestonsburg Wednesday for a fact

I don't know about a tour, but he has been interested in possibly transferring to Prestonsburg since last year. I have always heard he would prefer to be a running back, and a backfield with him and Patton would be one of 2A's best.

If Prestonsburg put him at RB instead of QB, they would be doing themselves a disservice.

[Blue_Bird96]

What’s next for Coach Hoskins?

Hopefully HC at Floyd Central.

[BlackcatAlum]

I’ve been a fan of Alex Johnson since he was in the 7th grade. He can play any skill position on offense. He’d help defensively and on special teams as well at Prestonsburg if he decided transfer.

Kid can ball.

[Belichick]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg. If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere. Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

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Well shoot....Go ahead and send your resume. Lukas surely has some school stipends or booster funds he could throw your way. Matter of fact, why don't you form a committee and replace the whole staff. As you mentioned, the coach doesn't make the program...Which makes total sense because I forgot all about Mac's championships at Pike Central. I recall Sheldon Clark and Harlan and even South Floyd beating Pikeville. How many times did they run IZ or Power? Are you sure it wasn't Duo? Mid Zone? Stretch? Did they run it to the 3t or the 1t? Was it out of 22p, 21p, 11p? What coverage skeleton was primarily shown on P&10? The only "fact is" is that Pikeville got accustomed to winning, and then they didn't. Boyle County effect. Quit crying. Donate more to the Pikeville NIL fund. Maybe all the Pikeville fans could attend some community meetings so there would be more economic development before UPike and Pikeville Methodist Hospital buy the entire city. You would be really sad if kids are forced to attend Central or Valley. 

As for Paintsville, I'd argue they are tanking once more. It might be sometime before they can recoup...Betsy Layne, Johnson Central, Prestonsburg, and Martin County are going to spread that talent even more

i might send my resume to paintsville if they make the right hire...... as far as replacing the whole staff at pikeville if it were up to me i would replace the whole staff with elves because i am from belfry. trust me i want brad allen to remain the offensive coordinator!!! mac definitely struggled at pike central and in his first stint at pikeville but he came back and established that program for 4-5 years and won at least one championship before brad took over as offensive coordinator. good to see you play madden and can name some run concepts too!!! could be any of those but im not sure brad ever felt the need to go that deep in the bag.... i was giving him credit naming two! they ran it at whatever d-line technique they wanted because they have had dudes that can just flat out run it...... lets talk about this year..... did pikeville ever run mesh to try and get braxton or hall into space or a smash concept for easy yards?? i remember a few screens.... once again, extended handoffs..... because theres no concepts that get guys open aside from getting them the ball and letting them make the play. AND I GET IT!!!!!!! youve got talent use it........ but the overwhelming truth is for the last 6 years is that pikeville only wins the games when theyre flat out better than the other team and their guys go make plays.... find me one example of the run game being stifled but brad allen has dialed up passing concepts and schemed out a win and ill gladly change my mind i havent watched every game admittedly but i dont recall a time that has happened?? its been a simple approach hand it to raines hand it to birchfield hand it to anthony and again if it isnt broke dont fix it but any offensive coordinator could do that when the rubber hits the road and the run game isnt dominating it is OVER for the panthers...... anthony wasnt himself this year and pikeville scores 6 points against sayre!!!!!! with a 3 or 4 year starter at quarterback i believe????

lets talk about head coach brad allen while we're here........ head coach at east ridge from 2008-2013, went to belfry as an assistant in 2014 and won a state title as an assistant, then head coach 2015-2017..... in those 9 years youd think a team lead by a winner would win some decent games right??? 29 wins in 9 years (thats 3 per year btw) 65 losses (that's 7 per year)...... 3 seasons of 1 or less wins, 1 season over .500 (6-4), and of those 29 wins NOT A SINGLE ONE came over a team over .500 from kentucky EVER!!!! in 9 whole seasons!! the one season that he went to belfry east ridge went .500 that means in a 10 year stretch they had just as many .500 seasons without brad allen then they did with him and he was the head coach for 9....... never once did he upset a team who was over .500...... never won a single playoff game either.... now again i understand it is hard to win at east ridge and ultimately i do think he did a good job there but to say hes a "winner" is a little crazy he never did anything awe inspiring his best parts of his resume are joining already established programs and winning an assistant and theres nothing wrong with that but youre giving him way too much credit.... i will also add i think his best addition to the pikeville program has been as the o line coach he does well at that he just cant call plays

as for paintsville i think if you hire the right coach you can be competitive in two years..... the tigers went 3-8 in 2013.... then 8-4 in 2014 and 10-3 in 2015 it doesnt take that long.... if brad allen can take the job and do that ill eat my words but i think you have a chance to go out and hire a guy who can excited the program and maybe even take kids from johnson central who isnt exactly setting the world on fire with the jesse peck era (speaking of hiring a guy who had mediocre success at a bad program and thinking being an assistant at a good program would change him.........) 

ill conclude with this...... have you seen a single pikeville fan parent player or coach in any thread clamoring to not lose brad allen? when one of them does maybe ill change my course..... i have no personal anomosity towards brad ive only met him a handful of times in my life but he seems like a VERY nice guy this is is purely from the perspective of a guy who likes football and is cheering for paintsville..... i dont think brad allen is a very good offensive play caller and his head coaching resume is not inspiring for a program who needs a shot in the arm like paintsville but has proven a shot in its arm can change their trajectory.......... again if im wrong ill gladly eat my words.......... but if im the tigers the coordinator at pikeville im throwing my money at IS NOT the offensive one

Pikeville did throw against LCA, GRC, Ironton, and Boyd County.  Some of their best weapons were injured this year and that may be why they were so run heavy in addition to having #35 in the backfield but when they decided to throw, it worked.  They put up big offensive numbers in all 4 of those games.  400-500+ yards of offense in all of those I believe.  BUT, word is those were by a different play caller.  Hence the question why?  Watch those games and then watch their others.  I think when next year's Panthers play, there will be some confusion by people who do not follow them closely wondering who some of these guys are and where were they last year? They were there and you saw flashes and big games by a couple but some weren't able to continue due to injury and others were kind of wasted in all honestly.  I think there will be changes but I don't believe that impacts the hire at Paintsville.

[pirateforlife]

I saw someone say that they may hire Brian Melvin to try and keep Johnson There but I heard from a very reliable source that Alex Johnson Plans on moving anytime soon. So they may not take that into account when making the hire now.

He’s going to tour Prestonsburg Wednesday for a fact

I don't know about a tour, but he has been interested in possibly transferring to Prestonsburg since last year. I have always heard he would prefer to be a running back, and a backfield with him and Patton would be one of 2A's best.

If Prestonsburg put him at RB instead of QB, they would be doing themselves a disservice.

How’s that? Does Prestonsburg run the bone offensively? Qb mostly handing it off every play. Just assumed they ran what Shawn Hager ran while at Sheldon Clark. If Johnson is as good a play maker as you say sounds like he would be best at rb in a run heavy offense

[BlackcatAlum]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg.  If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere.  Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

Last time I checked, Pikeville lost in the regional championship round just like Prestonsburg.

[jetpilot]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg.  If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere.  Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

Last time I checked, Pikeville lost in the regional championship round just like Prestonsburg.

Yes when deciding Pikeville or Prestonsburg please disregard Pikeville's 8 championships and 4 in last 
6 years, and pretend Prestonsburg has as good a chance as Pikeville of winning more championships going forward.

[2000PHS]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg.  If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere.  Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

Last time I checked, Pikeville lost in the regional championship round just like Prestonsburg.

Yes when deciding Pikeville or Prestonsburg please disregard Pikeville's 8 championships and 4 in last 
6 years, and pretend Prestonsburg has as good a chance as Pikeville of winning more championships going forward.

I knew this would elicit a response haha

[BlackcatAlum]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg.  If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere.  Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

Last time I checked, Pikeville lost in the regional championship round just like Prestonsburg.

Yes when deciding Pikeville or Prestonsburg please disregard Pikeville's 8 championships and 4 in last 
6 years, and pretend Prestonsburg has as good a chance as Pikeville of winning more championships going forward.

I knew this would elicit a response haha

You and me both lol

[Blue_Bird96]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg.  If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere.  Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

Last time I checked, Pikeville lost in the regional championship round just like Prestonsburg.

Yes when deciding Pikeville or Prestonsburg please disregard Pikeville's 8 championships and 4 in last 
6 years, and pretend Prestonsburg has as good a chance as Pikeville of winning more championships going forward.

I knew this would elicit a response haha

I’ve been waiting for it!

[jetpilot]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg.  If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere.  Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

Last time I checked, Pikeville lost in the regional championship round just like Prestonsburg.

Yes when deciding Pikeville or Prestonsburg please disregard Pikeville's 8 championships and 4 in last 
6 years, and pretend Prestonsburg has as good a chance as Pikeville of winning more championships going forward.

I knew this would elicit a response haha

Just to be clear I hope he stays at Paintsville and the Tigers make a great hire for HC.

[Belichick]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg.  If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere.  Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

Last time I checked, Pikeville lost in the regional championship round just like Prestonsburg.

Only person who brought Pikeville into that was you. JC is right across town. But I don’t see Prestonsburg playing for a 2A state championship anytime soon if ever in the future and that’s ok. Blackcats aren’t Pikeville, JC, or Belfry. If a kid has the opportunity to move and wants a chance at a ring in eastern KY, they are probably going to play at one of those 3 schools and if they want stats or to chase social media posts, they probably go somewhere else. Not trying to dump on any school, that’s just truthful.

[Khalisimo]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg.  If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere.  Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

Last time I checked, Pikeville lost in the regional championship round just like Prestonsburg.

Only person who brought Pikeville into that was you. JC is right across town. But I don’t see Prestonsburg playing for a 2A state championship anytime soon if ever in the future and that’s ok. Blackcats aren’t Pikeville, JC, or Belfry. If a kid has the opportunity to move and wants a chance at a ring in eastern KY, they are probably going to play at one of those 3 schools and if they want stats or to chase social media posts, they probably go somewhere else. Not trying to dump on any school, that’s just truthful.

prestonsburg has their hands full in the comin years and im excited to see if 2024 was a flash in the pan or they have found a long term coach that can build the program...... i feel like most of us think they are a merchant of a weak schedule

but i dont see any reason paintsville cannot bring themself right back on that top tier with the right hire i get they are down but they were down before and rose back up FAST.... they have won a state title more recently than JC and JC unless theres a realginment i missed is in the toughest class in the whole state

[Belichick]

If Johnson wants to be a big fish in a smaller pond, he will stay put or go to Prestonsburg.  If he wants to win more meaningful games, he may look elsewhere.  Depends if he wants stats or a chance at a ring.

Last time I checked, Pikeville lost in the regional championship round just like Prestonsburg.

Only person who brought Pikeville into that was you. JC is right across town. But I don’t see Prestonsburg playing for a 2A state championship anytime soon if ever in the future and that’s ok. Blackcats aren’t Pikeville, JC, or Belfry. If a kid has the opportunity to move and wants a chance at a ring in eastern KY, they are probably going to play at one of those 3 schools and if they want stats or to chase social media posts, they probably go somewhere else. Not trying to dump on any school, that’s just truthful.

prestonsburg has their hands full in the comin years and im excited to see if 2024 was a flash in the pan or they have found a long term coach that can build the program...... i feel like most of us think they are a merchant of a weak schedule

but i dont see any reason paintsville cannot bring themself right back on that top tier with the right hire i get they are down but they were down before and rose back up FAST.... they have won a state title more recently than JC and JC unless theres a realginment i missed is in the toughest class in the whole state

I agree with that but Paintsville benefited from transfers then. Not many beating the door down to go play there now because of some landscape changes and not loads of talent coming up in their system. It’s a challenge for them unless they become a destination again.

[Redneck]

People fail to acknowledge what a good hire and a GOOD strength & conditioning program can do for a team.

[Red and Black]

People fail to acknowledge what a good hire and a GOOD strength & conditioning program can do for a team.

Very true, but coaches like Joe Chirico are extremely rare in the mountains. Paintsville caught lightning in a bottle once with that hire combined with the mass Pburg exodus to Paintsville and it's hard enough to catch lightning in a bottle like that once, but it's much, much harder to do it twice. Melvin is not Chirico, and playing Pikeville and a Hazard program on the rise in district play for the next few years most likely means they will play a Rd 1 playoff game on the road for the next couple of years. I think this makes this job very undesirable right now for anyone outside of Johnson County. I hope they make a good hire and build their program back up because I think mountain football is better when Paintsville is competitive in 1A, and I hope Pburg and Paintsville continue their 100 year rivalry indefinitely in the future, I love the energy and anticipation of that game in both towns, but I don't think Melvin is the guy to build it back to what it was. I think it's more likely that he's the guy that presides over a sharp decline from what they've had the last few years.

[-STAT-]

Per Paintsville Schools Facebook page, Brian Melvin has been named the new head coach for the Football program.

[Redneck]

Per Paintsville Schools Facebook page, Brian Melvin has been named the new head coach for the Football program.

Confirmed

[Khalisimo]

one of the decisions in school history!