[Hoot Gibson]

In terms of campaign effectiveness, which presidential campaigns by the two major parties' candidates do you consider to have been the worst in recent history? List as many as you want, you certainly have many campaigns from which to choose. I plan to whittle my list down to six.

[Hoot Gibson]

Worst presidential campaigns in recent history, Democrats:

1. Kamala Harris (2024)

2. Joe Biden (2020)

3. Hillary Clinton (2016)

Honorable Mention: Michael Dukakis (1988), Jimmy Carter (1980), Walter Modale (1984)

Worst presidential campaigns in recent history, Republicans:

1. Donald Trump (2020)

2. Donald Trump (2016)

3. Mitt Romney (2012, Bob Dole (1996) (tie)

Honorable Mention: John McCain (2008), Gerald R. Ford (1976) 

Note that I did not include Donald Trump's 2024 campaign in my list. I also would not include his current campaign in my "best" list, but IMO, he is running his best campaign by far this year. Unless I am badly mistaken, Trump is going to accomplish exactly what he should in this election - beat a very weak opponent very badly. He has dialed back the name-calling and he has been appealing directly to groups that most past Republican candidates have ignored. Trump has made it socially acceptable for black and Hispanic men to support him in this campaign. He will not win the majority of those voters, but he is going to punish Democrats for taking them for granted until it was too late. Trump is not running a historically great campaign, but he is running a competent campaign.

[Hoot Gibson]

Kamala Harris has locked up the top spot on the list of worst Democrat presidential campaigns in history and the campaign she is running makes Trump's 2020 campaign look great in comparison.

[Hoot Gibson]

Kamala has more big celebrities from the Diddy list headlining campaign events in Pennsylvania today. 

Her campaign reminds me of the line, "She was so ugly that her mom had to tie a pork chop around her neck so that the dog would play with her." 

Kamala can't fill a small parking lot without either busing in paid attendees or promising people free entertainment to attend.

[Maga Nuts]

Kamala has more big celebrities from the Diddy list headlining campaign events in Pennsylvania today. 

Her campaign reminds me of the line, "She was so ugly that her mom had to tie a pork chop around her neck so that the dog would play with her." 

Kamala can't fill a small parking lot without either busing in paid attendees or promising people free entertainment to attend.

You are sounding more like your MAGA KING as we get closer to the election. I see where your MAGA KING is going back to North Carolina again. If it was such a landslide like you claim he has no business in North Carolina.

[Hoot Gibson]

Kamala has more big celebrities from the Diddy list headlining campaign events in Pennsylvania today. 

Her campaign reminds me of the line, "She was so ugly that her mom had to tie a pork chop around her neck so that the dog would play with her." 

Kamala can't fill a small parking lot without either busing in paid attendees or promising people free entertainment to attend.

You are sounding more like your MAGA KING as we get closer to the election. I see where your MAGA KING is going back to North Carolina again. If it was such a landslide like you claim he has no business in North Carolina.

Trump has four events planned for today in three states. Kamala has a couple of free concerts planned in Pennsylvania because so few people are willing to listen to her speeches without getting compensated for their time.

[Maga Nuts]

Kamala has more big celebrities from the Diddy list headlining campaign events in Pennsylvania today. 

Her campaign reminds me of the line, "She was so ugly that her mom had to tie a pork chop around her neck so that the dog would play with her." 

Kamala can't fill a small parking lot without either busing in paid attendees or promising people free entertainment to attend.

You are sounding more like your MAGA KING as we get closer to the election. I see where your MAGA KING is going back to North Carolina again. If it was such a landslide like you claim he has no business in North Carolina.

Trump has four events planned for today in three states. Kamala has a couple of free concerts planned in Pennsylvania because so few people are willing to listen to her speeches without getting compensated for their time.

And your MAGA KING has spent the last 2 days campaigning in a sate the democrats haven't' won but 1 time since 1980.
Also, he is in Georgia 2 reliable red states.
By the way you should tell your MAGA KING he needs to fire his makeup person he is looking pretty bad or maybe old age has caught up with him.

[Hoot Gibson]

Both North Carolina and Georgia are considered battleground states and have been battleground states for at least a dozen years. Ignoring the state would be a sure way of losing it. 

I am surprised that even you would be ignorant of that fact, vector. 

If Trump wins in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, or Michigan, then he will probably win the election. If Kamala loses any of those states, then she will probably lose the election. 

There are indications that Harris has given up in Nevada and North Carolina. The same sources say that she has moved money to Virginia. Kamala is playing defense and her potential paths to victory are shrinking.

[SEKYFAN]

Musk may have saved Trump's campaign with his input of money into the ground game.

Maybe we will find out in the next couple of days just how bad each one's campaign really was. I believe the jury is still out on that.

[Hoot Gibson]

Musk may have saved Trump's campaign with his input of money into the ground game. 

Maybe we will find out in the next couple of days just how bad each one's campaign really was.  I believe the jury is still out on that.

Kamala has run a horrible campaign and winning the election with change that. I rate Trump's 2016 campaign among the worst in history despite his win. A candidate can run a great campaign and lose, IMO, If the category was"Most Successful Campaigns in History," then I would agree that nominee for the award would need a win to be considered. 

Trump has been outspent and his opponents have impeached him twice; had him indicted and fined in multiple states; and jailed dozens of his supporters. Comrade Kamala should win in a landslide given the handicaps that have been imposed on Trump and that's not going to happen.

[Maga Nuts]

Musk may have saved Trump's campaign with his input of money into the ground game. 

Maybe we will find out in the next couple of days just how bad each one's campaign really was.  I believe the jury is still out on that.

Kamala has run a horrible campaign and winning the election with change that. I rate Trump's 2016 campaign among the worst in history despite his win. A candidate can run a great campaign and lose, IMO, If the category was"Most Successful Campaigns in History," then I would agree that nominee for the award would need a win to be considered. 

Trump has been outspent and his opponents have impeached him twice; had him indicted and fined in multiple states; and jailed dozens of his supporters. Comrade Kamala should win in a landslide given the handicaps that have been imposed on Trump and that's not going to happen.

Looks like the BGR expert is getting nervous his tune has changed a lot since this morning.

[Hoot Gibson]

Musk may have saved Trump's campaign with his input of money into the ground game. 

Maybe we will find out in the next couple of days just how bad each one's campaign really was.  I believe the jury is still out on that.

Kamala has run a horrible campaign and winning the election with change that. I rate Trump's 2016 campaign among the worst in history despite his win. A candidate can run a great campaign and lose, IMO, If the category was"Most Successful Campaigns in History," then I would agree that nominee for the award would need a win to be considered. 

Trump has been outspent and his opponents have impeached him twice; had him indicted and fined in multiple states; and jailed dozens of his supporters. Comrade Kamala should win in a landslide given the handicaps that have been imposed on Trump and that's not going to happen.

Looks like the BGR expert is getting nervous his tune has changed a lot since this morning.

You don't even have the guts to predict the electoral college vote. You just like to troll and take cheap shots at people who are smarter than you.

[Maga Nuts]

Musk may have saved Trump's campaign with his input of money into the ground game. 

Maybe we will find out in the next couple of days just how bad each one's campaign really was.  I believe the jury is still out on that.

Kamala has run a horrible campaign and winning the election with change that. I rate Trump's 2016 campaign among the worst in history despite his win. A candidate can run a great campaign and lose, IMO, If the category was"Most Successful Campaigns in History," then I would agree that nominee for the award would need a win to be considered. 

Trump has been outspent and his opponents have impeached him twice; had him indicted and fined in multiple states; and jailed dozens of his supporters. Comrade Kamala should win in a landslide given the handicaps that have been imposed on Trump and that's not going to happen.

Looks like the BGR expert is getting nervous his tune has changed a lot since this morning.

You don't even have the guts to predict the electoral college vote. You just like to troll and take cheap shots at people who are smarter than you.

BGR expert I have now told you 3 times Trump will declare him the winner before midnight on election day just like in 2020 which you believed him, but you are not alone there are millions of sheep today that still believe him.

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We are not going back

[Hoot Gibson]

Musk may have saved Trump's campaign with his input of money into the ground game. 

Maybe we will find out in the next couple of days just how bad each one's campaign really was.  I believe the jury is still out on that.

Kamala has run a horrible campaign and winning the election with change that. I rate Trump's 2016 campaign among the worst in history despite his win. A candidate can run a great campaign and lose, IMO, If the category was"Most Successful Campaigns in History," then I would agree that nominee for the award would need a win to be considered. 

Trump has been outspent and his opponents have impeached him twice; had him indicted and fined in multiple states; and jailed dozens of his supporters. Comrade Kamala should win in a landslide given the handicaps that have been imposed on Trump and that's not going to happen.

Looks like the BGR expert is getting nervous his tune has changed a lot since this morning.

You don't even have the guts to predict the electoral college vote. You just like to troll and take cheap shots at people who are smarter than you.

BGR expert I have now told you 3 times Trump will declare him the winner before midnight on election day just like in 2020 which you believed him, but you are not alone there are millions of sheep today that still believe him.

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We are not going back

Still no prediction. You're afraid you can't do the math. 

[SEKYFAN]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...eb0b&ei=15

About a dozen Donald Trump campaign aides spoke to Tim Alberta, a staff writer at The Atlantic, about how their candidate strayed from a hitherto on-message campaign to embark on a series of offensive, threatening and self-defeating verbal adventures that have left his team utterly demoralized heading into Election Day. The former president’s predictions of triumph, the reporter who has covered several Republican presidential campaigns concluded, belie a sense of panic among his subordinates that "the bottom has started to fall out" in their efforts


Trump, however, still thinks his chances are the same are great. “He does believe that he’s going to win,” Alberta told CNN’s Erin Burnett on Monday, adding that Trump "has a pretty distorted view of political reality, I think that’s been the case for quite some time.”
The takeaway from his conversations, he said, was that the fall campaign had "been a total train wreck of a fall campaign for the Trump folks."
Alberta's campaign observations were echoed by Wall Street Journal reporter Annie Linskey. She reported that the Election Day mood in Trumpworld has quickly turned sour.

[Hoot Gibson]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...eb0b&ei=15

About a dozen Donald Trump campaign aides spoke to Tim Alberta, a staff writer at The Atlantic, about how their candidate strayed from a hitherto on-message campaign to embark on a series of offensive, threatening and self-defeating verbal adventures that have left his team utterly demoralized heading into Election Day. The former president’s predictions of triumph, the reporter who has covered several Republican presidential campaigns concluded, belie a sense of panic among his subordinates that "the bottom has started to fall out" in their efforts


Trump, however, still thinks his chances are the same are great. “He does believe that he’s going to win,” Alberta told CNN’s Erin Burnett on Monday, adding that Trump "has a pretty distorted view of political reality, I think that’s been the case for quite some time.”
The takeaway from his conversations, he said, was that the fall campaign had "been a total train wreck of a fall campaign for the Trump folks."
Alberta's campaign observations were echoed by Wall Street Journal reporter Annie Linskey. She reported that the Election Day mood in Trumpworld has quickly turned sour.

It seems that the reports of the demoralization of the Trump campaign were greatly exaggerated. Some people are more susceptible to party propaganda than others. I call such people "Democrats."

Rachel Maddow has already started weaving an elaborate conspiracy theory about how Trump is going to destroy democracy as soon as he takes office. But you probably already got the details directly from Maddow herself.

[Hoot Gibson]

I think the results of this election matched my assessment of Kamala's awful campaign perfectly. I have changed my opinion about Trump's 2024 campaign. Previously said that his 2024 campaign had not been historically great. I was wrong. Trump's 2024 campaign is the stuff of legends. He has rewritten the book on effective campaigning.

[Granny Bear]

Some people believe that a coup happened in order to remove Biden from the election and insert Harris because she was more "electable".

Looking at the numbers this morning, Harris didn't come nearly as close to beating Trump as Biden did. Trump significantly increased his support in the Latin community, the African American community and women. Harris just couldn't hold on to the supporters. I really think that her efforts to ignore the interviews, and not answer the significant questions really damaged her in the election.

[Hoot Gibson]

Some people believe that a coup happened in order to remove Biden from the election and insert Harris because she was more "electable".

Looking at the numbers this morning, Harris didn't come nearly as close to beating Trump as Biden did.  Trump significantly increased his support in the Latin community, the African American community and women.  Harris just couldn't hold on to the supporters.  I really think that her efforts to ignore the interviews, and not answer the significant questions really damaged her in the election.

I was confident that Trump would make big gains among black males in this election. Some of the best conservative YouTube channels have been created by black men. There are also successful channels run by black conservative women, although not as many. 

Kamala Harris had no choice but to decline Joe Rogan's invitation for a long interview. Had she been a more capable candidate, appearing on Rogan's podcast would have been a golden opportunity.

Like you said, her unwillingness to answer questions and explain her positions doomed her chances. OTOH, explaining her positions truthfully would have resulted in an even worse defeat.

[SEKYFAN]

The Democrats wasted too much time and resources on beating the dead horse of Trump being evil, and probably didn't change too many people's minds in doing it. Instead they should have been focusing on and trying to educate the voters on why inflation occurred and what would have happened if the money was not put into the economy. When I heard sometime around 7:00 that the exit polls were showing that the #1 issue that voters were basing their vote on was the economy, I pretty much knew she was in deep trouble. I didn't even bother watching any of the broadcasts after that.

[Hoot Gibson]

The Democrats wasted too much time and resources on beating the dead horse of Trump being evil, and probably didn't change too many people's minds in doing it.  Instead they should have been focusing on and trying to educate the voters on why inflation occurred and what would have happened if the money was not put into the economy.  When I heard sometime around 7:00 that the exit polls were showing that the #1 issue that voters were basing their vote on was the economy, I pretty much knew she was in deep trouble.  I didn't even bother watching any of the broadcasts after that.

Messaging was not the Democrats' problem. They saddled themselves with a truly horrible candidate for the third consecutive election. IMO, Trump learned from his mistakes in 2016 and 2020 and then ran a near flawless 2024 campaign. I'm not sure that the election was winnable for Democrats, no matter who they had run, but with the possible exception of Joe Biden, they could not have picked a worse candidate. 

Think about it - the Amish were flying Trump flags on horse drawn buggies displaying Trump banners on their way to the polls in Pennsylvania. Trump voters were highly motivated.