[TheRealThing]

How delicious would this ticket be?

[Hoot Gibson]

It would be an unsavory ticket, IMO. 2024 offers a golden opportunity for this country to elect a true conservative president for a change. A 78-year-old populist president with a Democrat vice president who would be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office does not appeal to me. 

[Old School Hound]

I, for one, would love to see a GOP ticket headed up by anyone named Trump. That would be a gift from the Universe to the Democrats!!!

[jetpilot]

This administration (and Dems in Congress) has been such an unmitigated disaster across the board at home and a worldwide laughingstock that there is no way a Democrat will be president after the 2024 election.

[Old School Hound]

This administration (and Dems in Congress) has been such an unmitigated disaster across the board at home and a worldwide laughingstock that there is no way a Democrat will be president after the 2024 election.

I wouldn't necessarily say that, my friend. It probably depends on how good(or bad) folks in six or seven states feel about their pocketbooks come Nov. '24.  Only a handful of states determine the American presidential race nowadays.  If most voting folks in those states feel good about their finances at that time, the Democrat will probably win. If they feel awful about their buying power and their savings accounts, the Republican will probably win. If Trump is the GOP nominee, the Democrat will likely  win regardless. 
I hope the Republicans select Trump.

Still way too early to say with any confidence what the outcome will be in '24. The political winds of change blow swiftly those last five or six months. Almost impossible to predict at this point.

[jetpilot]

This administration (and Dems in Congress) has been such an unmitigated disaster across the board at home and a worldwide laughingstock that there is no way a Democrat will be president after the 2024 election.

I wouldn't necessarily say that, my friend. It probably depends on how good(or bad) folks in six or seven states feel about their pocketbooks come Nov. '24.  Only a handful of states determine the American presidential race nowadays.  If most voting folks in those states feel good about their finances at that time, the Democrat will probably win. If they feel awful about their buying power and their savings accounts, the Republican will probably win. If Trump is the GOP nominee, the Democrat will likely  win regardless. 
I hope the Republicans select Trump.

Still way too early to say with any confidence what the outcome will be in '24. The political winds of change blow swiftly those last five or six months. Almost impossible to predict at this point.

A vast majority of people absolutely hate every single Democrat policy. This administration is a disaster in every way. If you don't see the red tsunami coming you are kidding yourself. But I will play along - please list what you feel this administration has done right. I can't think of one single thing they haven't horrifically botched.

[Hoot Gibson]

A lot of Democrats are sharp enough to see what's coming. 10 percent of House Democrats have already decided not to run in 2022. Biden has done nothing good with Democrats controlling Congress and he will not become any more popular with Republicans in charge for two years.

[TheRealThing]

With all respects there doesn't seem to be a very good likelihood that a true conservative has a ghost of a chance of getting elected in these times. Who was the last one, Ronald Reagan? DJT proved conservative policies work and work very well; he was rewarded by receiving more than 74 million votes in he reelection bid that we know of. Said number blew the doors off Obama's record breaking vote total of 2008 by 5 million votes.

I don't know who's running for the Republicans or who will be nominated, I would vote for anybody (to include a Trump/Manchin) ticket over Biden or any other Democrat based on two factors alone--- abortion rights and gay rights. Not to mention the imploding economy, the healthcare system, the idiotic so-called health mandates, the government indoctrination/mis-education department, a woke military and all the rest.

[jetpilot]

With all respects there doesn't seem to be a very good likelihood that a true conservative has a ghost of a chance of getting elected in these times. Who was the last one, Ronald Reagan? DJT proved conservative policies work and work very well; he was rewarded by receiving more than 74 million votes in he reelection bid that we know of. Said number blew the doors off Obama's record breaking vote total of 2008 by 5 million votes.

I don't know who's running for the Republicans or who will be nominated, I would vote for anybody (to include a Trump/Manchin) ticket over Biden or any other Democrat based on two factors alone--- abortion rights and gay rights. Not to mention the imploding economy, the healthcare system,  the idiotic so-called health mandates, the government indoctrination/mis-education department, a woke military and all the rest.

There are infinity reasons to vote against every Democrat, every one of them is a  complete disaster. I asked before, please let any liberal on here tell what policy Dems have that is good for the country and you will get crickets every single time.

[Hoot Gibson]

I have not voted for a Democrat since I cast a protest vote against tax and spender Hal Rogers many years ago and I don't plan on ever voting for another Democrat for the duration of my time on planet Earth. However, I dislike Donald Trump and the more I see and hear the man speak, the less he impresses me. I will support almost any Republican who decides to run against him in the primaries in 2026.

I supported most of what Trump did during his four years in office because he is infinitely better than any Democrat who might be elected. If Tulsi Gabbard were not a Democrat, then I would probably support her over Trump but her party affiliation is a disqualifier. Manchin does not impress me at all. He, like Trump, is a political opportunist whose promises change depending on the audience.

As for a true conservative not having a chance to become president, I disagree. Trump narrowly defeated two of the weakest opponents in American history. (Mondale, McGovern, and Dukakis were all stronger candidates, IMO, than either Hillary or Biden.) In the past, when Republicans have faced weak candidates like Hillary and Biden, the results have been Republican landslides. Trump is not a strong presidential candidate and he was not a great president. Sure, he looks good compared to the most corrupt and incompetent Democrats in history, but who wouldn't? Democrats are scraping the bottom of the barrel for presidential candidates but Republicans don't have to do the same.

[TheRealThing]

I concede the point in general terms with the following qualifier. Much the same as world history can be divided by the birth of Christ, in my view, our culture and consequently American history can be divided in before and after terms by the Clinton presidency. America is like the frog that got slowly boiled because the water temperature was increased so gradually. Daily life of 2021, if seen through the eyes of a man living in 1965 would seem nightmarish and chaotic. But because the changes have come about relatively slowly, we have stayed in the stew. Albeit in spite of the fact that with very few exceptions, the news has had us shaking our heads every day.

But the point is as I am sure you would agree, many of the people of past couple of generations see the world differently than you and I do Hoot. As I said, the media managed to talk them out of accepting the obvious successes of the Trump Administration in favor of misinformation and mischaracterizations of the current events which happened right before their eyes. They've been indoctrinated, or strong-armed, or shamed into submission by goofy profs who are slave to a geopolitical agenda that was disproven as recently as WW2, to the point where they can no longer distinguish truth from lies for themselves. They are told what to thing and how to vote. And I don't think they will recognize the truth until disaster manages to hit them over the head. Therefore I do not share the optimism I hear on FOX for the 2024 election.

[Hoot Gibson]

I meant to say that I would support almost any Republican that runs against Trump in the 2024 primaries.

Consider how long it took. Joe Biden to obliterate most of the policies that Trump implemented with just new executive orders. In two years with total control of the Congress, Trump failed to obtain any funding for a border wall. Also, consider that fauci is still employed despite being employed in the Trump administration for four full years.

If this country is ever going to swing back toward conservatism, then we must start electing conservatives to the White House and to Congress. Congress. Trump does some conservative things but he is no conservative. In contrast to Republicans, Democrats have been electing liberals and socialist to the White House and to Congress. You can't talk okay if if in contrast to Republicans, Democrats have been electing liberals and socialist to the White House and to  not only that, they are passing bills and signing them into law.

Electing populists to the presidency is just not an effective action against creeping socialism.

[LOOKAYANNER]

I voted for Trump and I think he made a good President. He was a little crude with his mannerism and some of his language but overall I liked the way he ran his office and policy.
However, with that being said, I don’t think he can win the 2024 presidential election regardless of how poorly the present administration does. He sealed his fate with the rally he organized January 6 that got out of hand.
I will be the first to say that the majority of the people who marched to the Capitol from the rally that day were most likely not diehard Trump supporters but were actually anarchist who don’t like either party. They took advantage of a great opportunity that unfolded in front of them. I also don’t believe they originally marched there to invade the inside of the Capitol, but those over security made it too easy. Nancy Pelosi’s security for the Capitol had about the number of police officers on the premises that one would see at a high school basketball district tournament. It was almost as if a trap had been set and the rally gang fell into it.

That day altered Trump’s prospects forever being re-elected as President, and I knew and said it as it was unfolding on tv that day.

If Trump runs and gets the nomination the Democratic Party will run January 6 images 24/7 in campaign commercials, and of course put their slants and propaganda and misinformation along with their dialogue and video images. I don’t think Trump is electable. I believe he would serve conservative and moderates best by stepping aside and promoting another Republican candidate. That’s just my thoughts on it.

[TheRealThing]

Agreed^^ And to go along with what you're saying IMHO, are the still ongoing media mischaracterizations and over the top drama with which they have tried to frame the events of Jan 6 as some sort of Coup d etat. Pelosi did not have enough security on the Hill that day, but she certainly managed to get enough law enforcement out to look through all the rally goer's car windows for guns.

[Hoot Gibson]

Please excuse my typos. I just got a new Pixel 6 phone and have been trying to use the voice to text feature more. It does a really good job but I don't do a perfect job speaking. Also, sometimes voices in the background make it into a post that I make from my phone.

I really do not understand why Democrats are still scrambling to somehow get Trump disqualified from running in 2024. I think of all the likely Republican candidates. Trump would probably give the Democrats the best chance of winning. A conservative candidate with a reasonably good record, managing the pandemic and without bringing the hatred that so many Democrats and independents have of Trump would have an excellent chance of being elected. The economy shows signs of going into recession, which on top of the 40-year high inflation rate, will give the Republican candidate a great centerpiece around which to build a solid campaign.

[Hoot Gibson]

This administration (and Dems in Congress) has been such an unmitigated disaster across the board at home and a worldwide laughingstock that there is no way a Democrat will be president after the 2024 election.

I wouldn't necessarily say that, my friend. It probably depends on how good(or bad) folks in six or seven states feel about their pocketbooks come Nov. '24.  Only a handful of states determine the American presidential race nowadays.  If most voting folks in those states feel good about their finances at that time, the Democrat will probably win. If they feel awful about their buying power and their savings accounts, the Republican will probably win. If Trump is the GOP nominee, the Democrat will likely  win regardless. 
I hope the Republicans select Trump.

Still way too early to say with any confidence what the outcome will be in '24. The political winds of change blow swiftly those last five or six months. Almost impossible to predict at this point.

A vast majority of people absolutely hate every single Democrat policy. This administration is a disaster in every way. If you don't see the red tsunami coming you are kidding yourself. But I will play along - please list what you feel this administration has done right. I can't think of one single thing they haven't horrifically botched.

JP, you asked this question three months ago and that was apparently the last straw for OSH. He has been unable to come up with a cogent response since and has decided to avoid this forum. Coincidentally, another Corbin-area liberal - that lifelong Republican, The Outsider, disappeared from the forum shortly after OSH slithered away. Well done!

[Hoot Gibson]

^Did you notice that OSH elected to respond in this thread, instead of the silly "Debunking" thread that he started himself? The fact is, nearly every assertion that OSH has made in this forum has been proven wrong. Having been humiliated by his futility, now he wants to see the BGR Politics and Current Events forum closed. Maybe he should be advocate that all of his threads in this forum be deleted while he is at it! People should not post information and predictions to the internet when they are not prepared to admit when they are wrong. 

Hunter Biden's laptop is full of information implicating Joe Biden in dishonest and possibly criminal behavior. The Durham investigation is picking up steam and may soon reach Hillary Clinton and other high-ranking members of the former Obama administration. Matt Gaetz has not been charged with any crime after an investigation of more than a year and if he is finally charged as the November elections approach, it will be clear that the investigation was very politically motivated. OSH and the liberal cabal are wrong nearly as often as CNN and MSNBC.

As for a Trump-Manchin ticket, Manchin has signaled that he is ready to get aboard Biden's misleadingly named "Build Back Better" bill, with a few changes. I think the chances of Manchin teaming with any Republican in 2024 are getting slimmer. I think that it is more likely that a moderate Republican might run with Tulsi Gabbard.

[jetpilot]

Libs repeating all the DNC lies 24/7 when Trump was president now suddenly "too busy" to utter a word about this complete disaster laughingstock administration, much less apologize for all the lies they repeated that have now been exposed. To. The. Surprise. Of. Absolutely. No. One. Sheep, clapping seals.

I know what they are going to say on any issue before they know.

[TheRealThing]

^^ I know you noticed this Jet but though I did not make a reply at the time, Outsider seems to think the incessant repetition of lies about Trump worked; with the last nail in the coffin being the media fantasy of Jan 6. Laying out in matter-of-fact fashion all these baseless premises is a main go-to in the liberal toolbox. To whit--- This country has certainly been in a noticeable slide since the Bill Clinton era, but to say the country has been in a mess for the last 4 years, as if the absurdities of the Biden administration are in any way comparable to the victories of the Trump Administration is past laughable..

They can cancel everybody from Patrick Henry to Will Smith for all I care. They make it all up as they go and truth is always far from them.

[Hoot Gibson]

I heard today that if the predicted flood of illegal aliens after Title 42 is rescinded comes true, by the end of Biden's term, 1 in 5 residents in this country will be an illegal alien. The difference between Joe Biden and Benedict Arnold is that Arnold was a true American hero before he betrayed his country. Joe Biden has never done anything but abuse whatever elected office he held at the time and has become a very wealthy traitor during his career.

[TheRealThing]

^^ They full well know all about it too. They've done the math and it's durn the torpedoes and full speed ahead.