[The Outsider]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz

How long will it take before Trump starts bad mouthing DeSantis?

[Hoot Gibson]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz

How long will it take before Trump starts bad mouthing DeSantis?

I am a DeSantis supporter but I am very skeptical about the poll results in the linked article. There is no way that DeSantis has closed the gap with Trump that fast. DeSantis does not have the national name recognition yet to be so close to Trump in an accurate poll. I suspect the fact that John Bolton's PAC paid for the poll probably accounts for its wildly inaccurate results.

I wonder how long it will be before Democrats start bad-mouthing Biden? The percentage of Americans who strongly disapprove of the job that Biden is doing stands at 48, according to the Rasmussen Reports poll, versus 22 percent who strongly approve of his disastrous performance.

[The Outsider]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...li=BBnb7Kz

How long will it take before Trump starts bad mouthing DeSantis?

I am a DeSantis supporter but I am very skeptical about the poll results in the linked article. There is no way that DeSantis has closed the gap with Trump that fast. DeSantis does not have the national name recognition yet to be so close to Trump in an accurate poll. I suspect the fact that John Bolton's PAC paid for the poll probably accounts for its wildly inaccurate results.

I wonder how long it will be before Democrats start bad-mouthing Biden? The percentage of Americans who strongly disapprove of the job that Biden is doing stands at 48, according to the Rasmussen Reports poll, versus 22 percent who strongly approve of his disastrous performance.

Someone interested in unseating Biden as the Dem. nominee will probably start planting seeds early next year.  This poll, whether accurate or not, will get Trump's blood boiling anyway and I expect him to take a few potshots at DeSantis.  That's just what he does.

[jetpilot]

^^^Propaganda lies. Biden is a world-class disaster and Republicans won't fight amongst themselves to get rid of him and all the all the embarrassments in his administration that everyone knows is a clown show but a few liars on here.

[Cardfan1]

^^^Propaganda lies. Biden is a world-class disaster and Republicans won't fight amongst themselves to get rid of him and all the all the embarrassments in his administration that everyone knows is a clown show but a few liars on here.

There were nearly 20 dem candidates to replace Trump.  

there were almost the same amount of Republicans in 2016.  

lots of thirsty politicians. 

I don’t support Desantis, but Trump vs Biden 2 is not what this nation needs.

[jetpilot]

^^^Propaganda lies. Biden is a world-class disaster and Republicans won't fight amongst themselves to get rid of him and all the all the embarrassments in his administration that everyone knows is a clown show but a few liars on here.

There were nearly 20 dem candidates to replace Trump.  

there were almost the same amount of Republicans in 2016.  

lots of thirsty politicians. 

I don’t support Desantis, but Trump vs Biden 2 is not what this nation needs.

You will support any idiot Dem socialist/communist your "leaders" trot out there. Don't even act like you have to think about it.

[Hoot Gibson]

John Bolton is a guy who hates Trump and has a huge ego that far exceeds his intellect. Bolton would not have paid for a poll that showed Trump with a huge lead over DeSantis because Bolton wants to see Trump clearing a lane for the presidency that he, Bolton, can fill. Bolton is not a bad guy but he is a very ambitious man who I doubt is electable to any high office because he comes across as an arrogant intellectual. This is what Trump would call, and has probably already called, a fake poll.

[Cardfan1]

^^^Propaganda lies. Biden is a world-class disaster and Republicans won't fight amongst themselves to get rid of him and all the all the embarrassments in his administration that everyone knows is a clown show but a few liars on here.

There were nearly 20 dem candidates to replace Trump.  

there were almost the same amount of Republicans in 2016.  

lots of thirsty politicians. 

I don’t support Desantis, but Trump vs Biden 2 is not what this nation needs.

You will support any idiot Dem socialist/communist your "leaders" trot out there. Don't even act like you have to think about it.

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

[jetpilot]

^^^Propaganda lies. Biden is a world-class disaster and Republicans won't fight amongst themselves to get rid of him and all the all the embarrassments in his administration that everyone knows is a clown show but a few liars on here.

There were nearly 20 dem candidates to replace Trump.  

there were almost the same amount of Republicans in 2016.  

lots of thirsty politicians. 

I don’t support Desantis, but Trump vs Biden 2 is not what this nation needs.

You will support any idiot Dem socialist/communist your "leaders" trot out there. Don't even act like you have to think about it.

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

*seriously

[TheRealThing]

^^^Propaganda lies. Biden is a world-class disaster and Republicans won't fight amongst themselves to get rid of him and all the all the embarrassments in his administration that everyone knows is a clown show but a few liars on here.

There were nearly 20 dem candidates to replace Trump.  

there were almost the same amount of Republicans in 2016.  

lots of thirsty politicians. 

I don’t support Desantis, but Trump vs Biden 2 is not what this nation needs.

You will support any idiot Dem socialist/communist your "leaders" trot out there. Don't even act like you have to think about it.

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

[Cardfan1]

^^^Propaganda lies. Biden is a world-class disaster and Republicans won't fight amongst themselves to get rid of him and all the all the embarrassments in his administration that everyone knows is a clown show but a few liars on here.

There were nearly 20 dem candidates to replace Trump.  

there were almost the same amount of Republicans in 2016.  

lots of thirsty politicians. 

I don’t support Desantis, but Trump vs Biden 2 is not what this nation needs.

You will support any idiot Dem socialist/communist your "leaders" trot out there. Don't even act like you have to think about it.

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

[Hoot Gibson]

There were nearly 20 dem candidates to replace Trump.  

there were almost the same amount of Republicans in 2016.  

lots of thirsty politicians. 

I don’t support Desantis, but Trump vs Biden 2 is not what this nation needs.

You will support any idiot Dem socialist/communist your "leaders" trot out there. Don't even act like you have to think about it.

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

[Cardfan1]

You will support any idiot Dem socialist/communist your "leaders" trot out there. Don't even act like you have to think about it.

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Actually no one said their was election fraud by Election officials, and if they did they were wrong.

 Trump/Russian collusion was an American presidential campaign working with an foreign adversary to create disinformation on social media and funnel dark money to get their candidate elected. 

I’ve never disputed the 2016 votes.  The Trump campaign’s involvement with Russia to win an election is the problem. 

Very much different from the Big Lie that you fellas are spreading.

[Hoot Gibson]

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Actually no one said their was election fraud by Election officials, and if they did they were wrong.

 Trump/Russian collusion was an American presidential campaign working with an foreign adversary to create disinformation on social media and funnel dark money to get their candidate elected. 

I’ve never disputed the 2016 votes.  The Trump campaign’s involvement with Russia to win an election is the problem. 

Very much different from the Big Lie that you fellas are spreading.

Russian collusion with Trump was a hoax that is still being perpetrated by Democrat traitors. Your denial that the collusion allegations were an elaborate hoax and your posts promoting the content of the Steele dossier are based on nothing but lies.

[Cardfan1]

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Actually no one said their was election fraud by Election officials, and if they did they were wrong.

 Trump/Russian collusion was an American presidential campaign working with an foreign adversary to create disinformation on social media and funnel dark money to get their candidate elected. 

I’ve never disputed the 2016 votes.  The Trump campaign’s involvement with Russia to win an election is the problem. 

Very much different from the Big Lie that you fellas are spreading.

Russian collusion with Trump was a hoax that is still being perpetrated by Democrat traitors. Your denial that the collusion allegations were an elaborate hoax and your posts promoting the content of the Steele dossier are based on nothing but lies.

Uhh what? 

Manafort, papadapaplos, stone, Flynn, 
Gates and many more.  All those guys had ties and they were in the campaign.  
The feds followed the money and corroborated those parts of the Dossier that grinds your gears, Hoot.

[Hoot Gibson]

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Actually no one said their was election fraud by Election officials, and if they did they were wrong.

 Trump/Russian collusion was an American presidential campaign working with an foreign adversary to create disinformation on social media and funnel dark money to get their candidate elected. 

I’ve never disputed the 2016 votes.  The Trump campaign’s involvement with Russia to win an election is the problem. 

Very much different from the Big Lie that you fellas are spreading.

Russian collusion with Trump was a hoax that is still being perpetrated by Democrat traitors. Your denial that the collusion allegations were an elaborate hoax and your posts promoting the content of the Steele dossier are based on nothing but lies.

Uhh what? 

Manafort, papadapaplos, stone, Flynn, 
Gates and many more.  All those guys had ties and they were in the campaign.  
The feds followed the money and corroborated those parts of the Dossier that grinds your gears, Hoot.

Lies. Mueller's investigation concluded that the Steele dossier was fiction early in the investigation. None of the indictments that he brought had anything to do with Russian collusion. The Trump-Russian collusion allegations were a hoax. Repeating lies is no worse than coming up with them on your own - especially after the lies have been investigated and found to have no basis in fact.

The subject of this topic is the fake poll for which John Bolton's PAC paid, which shows Trump and DeSantis in a dead heat. You are determined to promote the same lies over and over, regardless of the thread topic. Please stop doing so.

[Cardfan1]

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Actually no one said their was election fraud by Election officials, and if they did they were wrong.

 Trump/Russian collusion was an American presidential campaign working with an foreign adversary to create disinformation on social media and funnel dark money to get their candidate elected. 

I’ve never disputed the 2016 votes.  The Trump campaign’s involvement with Russia to win an election is the problem. 

Very much different from the Big Lie that you fellas are spreading.

Russian collusion with Trump was a hoax that is still being perpetrated by Democrat traitors. Your denial that the collusion allegations were an elaborate hoax and your posts promoting the content of the Steele dossier are based on nothing but lies.

Uhh what? 

Manafort, papadapaplos, stone, Flynn, 
Gates and many more.  All those guys had ties and they were in the campaign.  
The feds followed the money and corroborated those parts of the Dossier that grinds your gears, Hoot.

Lies. Mueller's investigation concluded that the Steele dossier was fiction early in the investigation. None of the indictments that he brought had anything to do with Russian collusion. The Trump-Russian collusion allegations were a hoax. Repeating lies is no worse than coming up with them on your own - especially after the lies have been investigated and found to have no basis in fact.

The subject of this topic is the fake poll for which John Bolton's PAC paid, which shows Trump and DeSantis in a dead heat. You are determined to promote the same lies over and over, regardless of the thread topic. Please stop doing so.

Wrong. 
Those went through the justice system. Trump pardoned them…those criminals were not acquitted. They collided with Russian intel.  Period.  

Trump will dog stomp Desantis, who can’t win his own state after his reaction to Covid.

[Hoot Gibson]

Actually no one said their was election fraud by Election officials, and if they did they were wrong.

 Trump/Russian collusion was an American presidential campaign working with an foreign adversary to create disinformation on social media and funnel dark money to get their candidate elected. 

I’ve never disputed the 2016 votes.  The Trump campaign’s involvement with Russia to win an election is the problem. 

Very much different from the Big Lie that you fellas are spreading.

Russian collusion with Trump was a hoax that is still being perpetrated by Democrat traitors. Your denial that the collusion allegations were an elaborate hoax and your posts promoting the content of the Steele dossier are based on nothing but lies.

Uhh what? 

Manafort, papadapaplos, stone, Flynn, 
Gates and many more.  All those guys had ties and they were in the campaign.  
The feds followed the money and corroborated those parts of the Dossier that grinds your gears, Hoot.

Lies. Mueller's investigation concluded that the Steele dossier was fiction early in the investigation. None of the indictments that he brought had anything to do with Russian collusion. The Trump-Russian collusion allegations were a hoax. Repeating lies is no worse than coming up with them on your own - especially after the lies have been investigated and found to have no basis in fact.

The subject of this topic is the fake poll for which John Bolton's PAC paid, which shows Trump and DeSantis in a dead heat. You are determined to promote the same lies over and over, regardless of the thread topic. Please stop doing so.

Wrong. 
Those went through the justice system. Trump pardoned them…those criminals were not acquitted. They collided with Russian intel.  Period.  

Trump will dog stomp Desantis, who can’t win his own state after his reaction to Covid.

You are lying and you are still off topic. None of those listed were convicted of anything related to Russian collusion. In fact, the charges against General Flynn were dropped but he was not charged with colluding with the Russians. Nobody was charged with colluding with the Russians. This topic has been worn out in thread after thread.

Please try to stay on topic and stop trying to re-fight the battles that you have already lost. If you don't have anything relevant to this thread, then just stop posting in it.

[Cardfan1]

You will support any idiot Dem socialist/communist your "leaders" trot out there. Don't even act like you have to think about it.

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Who started talking about Russian Collusion in this thread? 


  You got a plank in thine eye, Hoot. 

I was on topic.  Desantis has turned Florida into a handbook on how not to run a state during a pandemic After all we know and after a vaccine. 
 

if Trump turns on him like he has Kemp  He will be lucky to win his own governorship.

[jetpilot]

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Who started talking about Russian Collusion in this thread? 


  You got a plank in thine eye, Hoot. 

I was on topic.  Desantis has turned Florida into a handbook on how not to run a state during a pandemic After all we know and after a vaccine. 
 

if Trump turns on him like he has Kemp  He will be lucky to win his own governorship.

This is a lie, and a very bad lie as far as lies go.

[Hoot Gibson]

If you knew what a socialist or communist was I might take your comment serious.

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Who started talking about Russian Collusion in this thread? 


  You got a plank in thine eye, Hoot. 

I was on topic.  Desantis has turned Florida into a handbook on how not to run a state during a pandemic After all we know and after a vaccine. 
 

if Trump turns on him like he has Kemp  He will be lucky to win his own governorship.

You dishonestly accused the Trump administration of attempting to overthrow the government. I responded by pointing out that Democrats are the party that attempted to overthrow a duly elected administration with the Russian collusion hoax. So, no, I am not the one that took the thread off topic.

[Cardfan1]

If you knew what a government of the people was,  you'd publicly disavow every post you've made since your retread, turn over a new leaf and apologize.

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Who started talking about Russian Collusion in this thread? 


  You got a plank in thine eye, Hoot. 

I was on topic.  Desantis has turned Florida into a handbook on how not to run a state during a pandemic After all we know and after a vaccine. 
 

if Trump turns on him like he has Kemp  He will be lucky to win his own governorship.

You dishonestly accused the Trump administration of attempting to overthrow the government. I responded by pointing out that Democrats are the party that attempted to overthrow a duly elected administration with the Russian collusion hoax. So, no, I am not the one that took the thread off topic.

Ya did! 

thee house is made of glass!  

Any chance you could get back on topic? 
here I’ll help…This from Trumpy today. 

“The former president was confident about his chances if he decided to run, even if it meant a potential head-to-head matchup with DeSantis, another GOP favorite.
“If I faced him, I'd beat him like I would beat everyone else,” Trump declared, even as he said he doesn't actually expect a showdown.
“I don't think I will face him,” he predicted about what DeSantis and other Republicans would do if he got into the race. “I think most people would drop out, I think he would drop out.”
The Florida governor is currently up for reelection in 2022, and he says he isn’t looking beyond that race. "I’m not considering anything beyond doing my job," he recently told Fox News, adding "we’ve got a lot of stuff going on in Florida.”

[Hoot Gibson]

Wouldn’t that be a govt. that supports elections and doesn’t attempt to undermine and overturn them with lies in the search for power?  Cough cough …Republicans MO these days

The Russian collusion hoax was an attempt to undermine a duly elected government and you have supported it in thread after thread.

Who started talking about Russian Collusion in this thread? 


  You got a plank in thine eye, Hoot. 

I was on topic.  Desantis has turned Florida into a handbook on how not to run a state during a pandemic After all we know and after a vaccine. 
 

if Trump turns on him like he has Kemp  He will be lucky to win his own governorship.

You dishonestly accused the Trump administration of attempting to overthrow the government. I responded by pointing out that Democrats are the party that attempted to overthrow a duly elected administration with the Russian collusion hoax. So, no, I am not the one that took the thread off topic.

Ya did! 

thee house is made of glass!  

Any chance you could get back on topic? 
here I’ll help…This from Trumpy today. 

“The former president was confident about his chances if he decided to run, even if it meant a potential head-to-head matchup with DeSantis, another GOP favorite.
“If I faced him, I'd beat him like I would beat everyone else,” Trump declared, even as he said he doesn't actually expect a showdown.
“I don't think I will face him,” he predicted about what DeSantis and other Republicans would do if he got into the race. “I think most people would drop out, I think he would drop out.”
The Florida governor is currently up for reelection in 2022, and he says he isn’t looking beyond that race. "I’m not considering anything beyond doing my job," he recently told Fox News, adding "we’ve got a lot of stuff going on in Florida.”

Another post, another lie.

[Cardfan1]

Poor DeSantis having to back down and eat crap while Trump holds the party hostage.

[Hoot Gibson]

Poor DeSantis having to back down and eat crap while Trump holds the party hostage.

DeSantis is running for reelection as the Governor of Florida. If he decides to run for president, he will not declare himself a candidate until after he wins his second term.

[The Outsider]

Poor DeSantis having to back down and eat crap while Trump holds the party hostage.

DeSantis is running for reelection as the Governor of Florida. If he decides to run for president, he will not declare himself a candidate until after he wins his second term.

This makes sense.  Prayers to the DeSantis family as well.

[Hoot Gibson]

Poor DeSantis having to back down and eat crap while Trump holds the party hostage.

DeSantis is running for reelection as the Governor of Florida. If he decides to run for president, he will not declare himself a candidate until after he wins his second term.

This makes sense.  Prayers to the DeSantis family as well.

Hopefully, his wife was diagnosed early and will not have to go through chemotherapy.