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Dominion sues Giuliani for 1.3 Billion
#61
"IMHO the bolded claim is patently false. No court 'heard' evidence of election fraud. They instead refused to entertain such filings as being "without standing." Of course a candidate receiving more than 74 million votes has standing." Glad to see you have quit stretching the truth on the vote tally
IMHO then if somebody receives more than 3 million votes then she also should not concede and claim election was stolen ? And her supporters should of stormed the capital and stop the steal ?
But she didn't she conceded can't have it both ways
#62
(03-22-2021, 08:54 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...SKBN2BE32S


“She said her claims about Dominion were meant to be hyperbolic, and that "reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact but view them only as claims that await testing by the courts through the adversary process."

The "reasonable people" statement would exclude roughly 75% of Trump's avid supporters, and unfortunately a much higher percentage on here. Wink
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#63
^^ You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins--- of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
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#64
(03-23-2021, 10:19 AM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-22-2021, 08:54 PM)Cardfan1 Wrote: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e...SKBN2BE32S


“She said her claims about Dominion were meant to be hyperbolic, and that "reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact but view them only as claims that await testing by the courts through the adversary process."

The "reasonable people" statement would exclude roughly 75% of Trump's avid supporters, and unfortunately a much higher percentage on here. Wink
"Reasonable people" excludes all of the socialists and communists hiding behind the "liberal" and "progressive" euphemisms in our representative republic.
#65
(03-23-2021, 11:59 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins---  of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 
#66
Yes Hoot and it's pretty convenient for swing state election officials to deny any fraud at all, while at the same time demanding that Republicans prove their claims about fraud having occurred. And then the courts turn around and refuse to hear the claims of fraud saying the Republican candidate and therefore all the voters in support, do not have standing in their own darn election.
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#67
(03-23-2021, 12:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 11:59 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins---  of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 
If there was massive voter fraud, then the "official" totals are meaningless. China Joe very likely will not finish a single term as president and will be replaced by a woman who never polled higher than 3 percent support during the Democrat primaries. Biden was the "bait" in a fraudulent bait and switch election. Maybe if the bait had been better, Democrats would not have resorted to massive election fraud.
#68
(03-23-2021, 12:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 11:59 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins---  of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 


Right the numbers are in and they fairly shine like a super nova.
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#69
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 11:59 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins---  of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 


Right the numbers are in and they fairly shine like a super nova.
I couldn't imagine how you and Quooter would cry if your candidate gets over 3 million more votes and still lose the election
You get BEAT by over 7 million votes and you tried to overthrow the government 
So now you people have made it normal by not allowing transfer of power
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#70
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 11:59 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins---  of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 
If there was massive voter fraud, then the "official" totals are meaningless. China Joe very likely will not finish a single term as president and will be replaced by a woman who never polled higher than 3 percent support during the Democrat primaries. Biden was the "bait" in a fraudulent bait and switch election. Maybe if the bait had been better, Democrats would not have resorted to massive election fraud.

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves for allowing someone like Trump to become the face of the Party.  Biden was elected because of Trump and if Harris becomes President, then the Republicans only need to look in the mirror to see who is to blame. 

You can whine about election fraud forever, but not allowing voter suppression does not equal voter fraud.  Some of you need realize that the Jim Crowe days are over, or at least should be.
#71
(03-23-2021, 12:28 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 11:59 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins---  of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 


Right the numbers are in and they fairly shine like a super nova.
I couldn't imagine how you and Quooter would cry if your candidate gets over 3 million more votes and still lose the election
You get BEAT by over 7 million votes and you tried to overthrow the government 
So now you people have made it normal by not allowing transfer of power

Another lying and idiotic post ^^
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#72
(03-23-2021, 02:37 PM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 11:59 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins---  of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 
If there was massive voter fraud, then the "official" totals are meaningless. China Joe very likely will not finish a single term as president and will be replaced by a woman who never polled higher than 3 percent support during the Democrat primaries. Biden was the "bait" in a fraudulent bait and switch election. Maybe if the bait had been better, Democrats would not have resorted to massive election fraud.

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves for allowing someone like Trump to become the face of the Party.  Biden was elected because of Trump and if Harris becomes President, then the Republicans only need to look in the mirror to see who is to blame. 

You can whine about election fraud forever, but not allowing voter suppression does not equal voter fraud.  Some of you need realize that the Jim Crowe days are over, or at least should be.
Mr. ImNotASocialistBut..., mailing out millions of unsolicited absentee ballots, allowing unrestricted ballot harvesting, and usurping the constitutional role of state legislatures in setting voting rules has nothing to do with voter suppression. You're as dishonest as the other socialists who frequent this forum. I do agree that Republicans have themselves to blame for the outcome of the 2020 election. Republican controlled state legislatures in the battleground states could have asserted their constitutional rights and derailed the rigging of the election but they were too timid to act in a timely manner.
#73
(03-23-2021, 02:37 PM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: If there was massive voter fraud, then the "official" totals are meaningless. China Joe very likely will not finish a single term as president and will be replaced by a woman who never polled higher than 3 percent support during the Democrat primaries. Biden was the "bait" in a fraudulent bait and switch election. Maybe if the bait had been better, Democrats would not have resorted to massive election fraud.

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves for allowing someone like Trump to become the face of the Party.  Biden was elected because of Trump and if Harris becomes President, then the Republicans only need to look in the mirror to see who is to blame. 

You can whine about election fraud forever, but not allowing voter suppression does not equal voter fraud.  Some of you need realize that the Jim Crowe days are over, or at least should be.


My my, what a hole has been left by ceasing to teach high school civics. The GOP had about 17 establishment candidates cued up to compete for the nomination. The PEOPLE had had enough of the monkey puke and went their own way, which was to select DJT. In other words because the GOP had demonstrated their idiocy had not abated, in retaliation the GOP got drove around by the voters they were supposed to represent.  Either way, it's not up to the GOP to decide who the nominee is to be on any given year. That decision is up to the people, and the people only.

Your Jim Crow argument was litigated in the court of public opinion in the mid 20th century, and immediately dealt with legislatively as the result. Democrats are the ones who pushed Jim Crow. I can't say I know how old you are, but I can say you're not old enough to even understand Jim Crow, much less lecture me about it. My generation and the one prior were the ones which had the courage and force of character to defeat the remaining civil rights injustices. For people like you with zero skin in the game to be judging those who actually took care of the problem, is laughably asinine. Voter suppression argument is yet another lie spawned from the bowels of the DNC in order to dupe those like yourself, who're willfully ignorant of accurate history. And I mean it's up to you but you could always try reading about it instead of getting your opinion handed to you the easy way by Rachel Maddow.
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#74
(03-23-2021, 02:44 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:28 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 11:59 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins---  of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 


Right the numbers are in and they fairly shine like a super nova.
I couldn't imagine how you and Quooter would cry if your candidate gets over 3 million more votes and still lose the election
You get BEAT by over 7 million votes and you tried to overthrow the government 
So now you people have made it normal by not allowing transfer of power

Another lying and idiotic post ^^
Where's the LIE

(03-23-2021, 03:12 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:37 PM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: If there was massive voter fraud, then the "official" totals are meaningless. China Joe very likely will not finish a single term as president and will be replaced by a woman who never polled higher than 3 percent support during the Democrat primaries. Biden was the "bait" in a fraudulent bait and switch election. Maybe if the bait had been better, Democrats would not have resorted to massive election fraud.

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves for allowing someone like Trump to become the face of the Party.  Biden was elected because of Trump and if Harris becomes President, then the Republicans only need to look in the mirror to see who is to blame. 

You can whine about election fraud forever, but not allowing voter suppression does not equal voter fraud.  Some of you need realize that the Jim Crowe days are over, or at least should be.


My my, what a hole has been left by ceasing to teach high school civics. The GOP had about 17 establishment candidates cued up to compete for the nomination. The PEOPLE had had enough of the monkey puke and went their own way, which was to select DJT. In other words because the GOP had demonstrated their idiocy had not abated, in retaliation the GOP got drove around by the voters they were supposed to represent.  Either way, it's not up to the GOP to decide who the nominee is to be on any given year. That decision is up to the people, and the people only.

Your Jim Crow argument was litigated in the court of public opinion in the mid 20th century, and immediately dealt with legislatively as the result. Democrats are the ones who pushed Jim Crow. I can't say I know how old you are, but I can say you're not old enough to even understand Jim Crow, much less lecture me about it. My generation and the one prior were the ones which had the courage and force of character to defeat the remaining civil rights injustices. For people like you with zero skin in the game to be judging those who actually took care of the problem, is laughably asinine. Voter suppression argument is yet another lie spawned from the bowels of the DNC in order to dupe those like yourself, who're willfully ignorant of accurate history. And I mean it's up to you but you could always try reading about it instead of getting your opinion handed to you the easy way by Rachel Maddow.
The GOP strategy is keep the vote down it's there only chance
Republicans in swing states passed laws in 2020 to make it easier to vote and they lost. Now they are passing laws to make it harder to vote. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see what's going on

(03-23-2021, 02:44 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:37 PM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 11:59 AM)TheRealThing Wrote: You know Cardfan comes on here trolling water that he has already trolled ad-nauseum, and posts an article which supposedly bolsters his claim that there was no election fraud. A claim which as I just pointed out, has never been based on any evidence that has been put out there and therefore, patently false.

But if you guys want to come on here and chirp, chirp chirp about how bad DJT was, so be it. But I would just point out that it takes a bit more than soap opera grade emotionalism to convince others to agree with you. The courts did not hear the evidence, they dodged it.

If there were unsigned and/or undated ballots, separated from the envelopes they were supposedly mailed in, that came in BTW days or weeks late from mysterious origins---  of course there was election fraud. Why else would Dems be pushing HR-1 if such idiotics did not favor them? And vector, it is my opinion that the official reported vote total for Trump was low. Deal with it or don't. Unlike you I prefer the truth over a lie which may at the time happen to work in my favor.
Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 
If there was massive voter fraud, then the "official" totals are meaningless. China Joe very likely will not finish a single term as president and will be replaced by a woman who never polled higher than 3 percent support during the Democrat primaries. Biden was the "bait" in a fraudulent bait and switch election. Maybe if the bait had been better, Democrats would not have resorted to massive election fraud.

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves for allowing someone like Trump to become the face of the Party.  Biden was elected because of Trump and if Harris becomes President, then the Republicans only need to look in the mirror to see who is to blame. 

You can whine about election fraud forever, but not allowing voter suppression does not equal voter fraud.  Some of you need realize that the Jim Crowe days are over, or at least should be.
Mr. ImNotASocialistBut..., mailing out millions of unsolicited absentee ballots, allowing unrestricted ballot harvesting, and usurping the constitutional role of state legislatures in setting voting rules has nothing to do with voter suppression. You're as dishonest as the other socialists who frequent this forum. I do agree that Republicans have themselves to blame for the outcome of the 2020 election. Republican controlled state legislatures in the battleground states could have asserted their constitutional rights and derailed the rigging of the election but they were too timid to act in a timely manner.
Quooter it's the republicans who passed the laws you are crying about.
#75
(03-23-2021, 03:35 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:44 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:28 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:11 PM)vector#1 Wrote: Well the numbers on how DJT are in the history book and some if not worst of any president
So if a candidate loses by over 7 million votes you say that's voter fraud 
Now on the other hand a candidate wins by over 3 million votes then it's not voter fraud
My opinion President Biden's "official reported vote total was low" You can just deal with it don't 
I do prefer the truth unlike some 


Right the numbers are in and they fairly shine like a super nova.
I couldn't imagine how you and Quooter would cry if your candidate gets over 3 million more votes and still lose the election
You get BEAT by over 7 million votes and you tried to overthrow the government 
So now you people have made it normal by not allowing transfer of power

Another lying and idiotic post ^^
Where's the LIE



The lie is in the talking points you always posting. You didn't come to those errant revelations on your own.

Dems have taught you that you can have it both ways. But I say you can't deny voter fraud without due process, while at the same time acting as if the validity of the 7 million more votes you're always ballyhooing about are beyond question. We already established in the 2016 election for example, that almost all the popular vote advantage Hillary had came from only one state; California, where we  know illegals not only vote, but are encouraged to vote. California is home BTW to millions of illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants should not vote and there is this one little qualifier to that. Illegal immigrants voting in US elections is illegal under federal and state election statutes.

That said almost everybody, and certainly everybody that has any sway on the election situation, has laid down about it long ago. I have resolved that I must submit myself to the authority of President Biden as of some time ago. That's not good enough for you though, is it vector?

Nobody tried to overthrow the government in my view. But I can assure you of one thing, you'd think twice about saying that I tried to overthrow the government to my face. You're over the line with that one, and I make no apology for my ire.
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#76
(03-23-2021, 03:12 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:37 PM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: If there was massive voter fraud, then the "official" totals are meaningless. China Joe very likely will not finish a single term as president and will be replaced by a woman who never polled higher than 3 percent support during the Democrat primaries. Biden was the "bait" in a fraudulent bait and switch election. Maybe if the bait had been better, Democrats would not have resorted to massive election fraud.

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves for allowing someone like Trump to become the face of the Party.  Biden was elected because of Trump and if Harris becomes President, then the Republicans only need to look in the mirror to see who is to blame. 

You can whine about election fraud forever, but not allowing voter suppression does not equal voter fraud.  Some of you need realize that the Jim Crowe days are over, or at least should be.


My my, what a hole has been left by ceasing to teach high school civics. The GOP had about 17 establishment candidates cued up to compete for the nomination. The PEOPLE had had enough of the monkey puke and went their own way, which was to select DJT. In other words because the GOP had demonstrated their idiocy had not abated, in retaliation the GOP got drove around by the voters they were supposed to represent.  Either way, it's not up to the GOP to decide who the nominee is to be on any given year. That decision is up to the people, and the people only.

Your Jim Crow argument was litigated in the court of public opinion in the mid 20th century, and immediately dealt with legislatively as the result. Democrats are the ones who pushed Jim Crow. I can't say I know how old you are, but I can say you're not old enough to even understand Jim Crow, much less lecture me about it. My generation and the one prior were the ones which had the courage and force of character to defeat the remaining civil rights injustices. For people like you with zero skin in the game to be judging those who actually took care of the problem, is laughably asinine. Voter suppression argument is yet another lie spawned from the bowels of the DNC in order to dupe those like yourself, who're willfully ignorant of accurate history. And I mean it's up to you but you could always try reading about it instead of getting your opinion handed to you the easy way by Rachel Maddow.

I was referring to the people who voted for Trump as the GOP candidate looking into the mirror, not the GOP establishment who did by the way botch that whole nomination process.  I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump, although I didn't vote for Clinton either. I was hoping that that the fact that Trump was not really a Republican or a Democrat might turn out to be a good thing.  He turned out to be what I was afraid he was though and thus has left our Country more divided than anytime since the 60's, in addition to burying us further in debt.  My guess is that we will continue down the path of fiscal irresponsibility and if so will face financial hardships not seen in the country since the Great Depression.

The next time I watch Rachel Maddow will be the first time I have watched Rachel Maddow, even though I have learned that watching the news that does not reflect your own ideology can be very enlightening.  You may want to try it sometime.
#77
(03-23-2021, 04:16 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 03:35 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:44 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:28 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: Right the numbers are in and they fairly shine like a super nova.
I couldn't imagine how you and Quooter would cry if your candidate gets over 3 million more votes and still lose the election
You get BEAT by over 7 million votes and you tried to overthrow the government 
So now you people have made it normal by not allowing transfer of power

Another lying and idiotic post ^^
Where's the LIE



The lie is in the talking points you always posting. You didn't come to those errant revelations on your own.

Dems have taught you that you can have it both ways. But I say you can't deny voter fraud without due process, while at the same time acting as if the validity of the 7 million more votes you're always ballyhooing about are beyond question. We already established in the 2016 election for example, that almost all the popular vote advantage Hillary had came from only one state; California, where we  know illegals not only vote, but are encouraged to vote. California is home BTW to millions of illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants should not vote and there is this one little qualifier to that. Illegal immigrants voting in US elections is illegal under federal and state election statutes.

That said almost everybody, and certainly everybody that has any sway on the election situation, has laid down about it long ago. I have resolved that I must submit myself to the authority of President Biden as of some time ago. That's not good enough for you though, is it vector?

Nobody tried to overthrow the government in my view. But I can assure you of one thing, you'd think twice about saying that I tried to overthrow the government to my face. You're over the line with that one, and I make no apology for my ire.
Well let's start  with your lie on California voting illegals. Your Dear Lear appointed a commission May 11 2017 and found NO VOTER FRAUD that's LIE#1

Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity - Wikipedia

As far as trying to overthrow the government what was January 6 2020 about ?
IMHO is was to STOP legal certifying of the election there was 147 republicans lawmakers who objected to the states certified results
And thousands of Dear Leader's supporters who tried to stop the certification

If you and Quooter support Dear Leader then YES you support his actions leading up to January 6 2021
Which includes STOP THE STEAL
#78
(03-23-2021, 04:42 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 04:16 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 03:35 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:44 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:28 PM)vector#1 Wrote: I couldn't imagine how you and Quooter would cry if your candidate gets over 3 million more votes and still lose the election
You get BEAT by over 7 million votes and you tried to overthrow the government 
So now you people have made it normal by not allowing transfer of power

Another lying and idiotic post ^^
Where's the LIE



The lie is in the talking points you always posting. You didn't come to those errant revelations on your own.

Dems have taught you that you can have it both ways. But I say you can't deny voter fraud without due process, while at the same time acting as if the validity of the 7 million more votes you're always ballyhooing about are beyond question. We already established in the 2016 election for example, that almost all the popular vote advantage Hillary had came from only one state; California, where we  know illegals not only vote, but are encouraged to vote. California is home BTW to millions of illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants should not vote and there is this one little qualifier to that. Illegal immigrants voting in US elections is illegal under federal and state election statutes.

That said almost everybody, and certainly everybody that has any sway on the election situation, has laid down about it long ago. I have resolved that I must submit myself to the authority of President Biden as of some time ago. That's not good enough for you though, is it vector?

Nobody tried to overthrow the government in my view. But I can assure you of one thing, you'd think twice about saying that I tried to overthrow the government to my face. You're over the line with that one, and I make no apology for my ire.
Well let's start  with your lie on California voting illegals. Your Dear Lear appointed a commission May 11 2017 and found NO VOTER FRAUD that's LIE#1

Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity - Wikipedia

As far as trying to overthrow the government what was January 6 2020 about ?
IMHO is was to STOP legal certifying of the election there was 147 republicans lawmakers who objected to the states certified results
And thousands of Dear Leader's supporters who tried to stop the certification

If you and Quooter support Dear Leader then YES you support his actions leading up to January 6 2021
Which includes STOP THE STEAL
Liar.
#79
(01-25-2021, 12:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 12:14 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 11:39 AM)The Outsider Wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/25/politics/...index.html

The lawsuit notes that while Giuliani spread falsehoods about Dominion being owned by Venezuelan communists and corrupting the election, he did not make those claims in lawsuits he pushed on behalf of Trump.
Didn't Quooter say they didn't have the marbles to sue Rudy and the Kraken 
Wrong once Again
Liar. I never said anything about Rudy. And I said it would be a big mistake to sue Powell or Wood and it is. Dominion will either get into a world of trouble for destroying evidence or the evidence that they produce during discovery will destroy them. You corruption cheerleaders are ignoring the lawsuits that are being filed against Dominion and the evidence arrayed against the company.

These cases will probably be in the courts for years but the truth about Dominion will probably come out eventually. Dominion employees are in videos demonstrating how to flip votes through adjudication and on other videos claiming that votes cannot be flipped using their machines. They are also on record denying that their machines can connect to the internet, a claim that has been disproved repeatedly by experts demonstrating how it is done.

I watched a video yesterday of three dump trucks being loaded with boxes of files and furniture and hauled away from Dominion's Denver office after a Civil Rights lawsuit was filed against the company by voters in all of the battleground states where Dominion voting machines were used. Those were not moving trucks. They were the kind of trucks that normally pick up junk and deliver it to a landfill.
Is Quooter a SUCKER YES

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...wsource=cl
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#80
(03-23-2021, 05:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 12:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 12:14 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 11:39 AM)The Outsider Wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/25/politics/...index.html

The lawsuit notes that while Giuliani spread falsehoods about Dominion being owned by Venezuelan communists and corrupting the election, he did not make those claims in lawsuits he pushed on behalf of Trump.
Didn't Quooter say they didn't have the marbles to sue Rudy and the Kraken 
Wrong once Again
Liar. I never said anything about Rudy. And I said it would be a big mistake to sue Powell or Wood and it is. Dominion will either get into a world of trouble for destroying evidence or the evidence that they produce during discovery will destroy them. You corruption cheerleaders are ignoring the lawsuits that are being filed against Dominion and the evidence arrayed against the company.

These cases will probably be in the courts for years but the truth about Dominion will probably come out eventually. Dominion employees are in videos demonstrating how to flip votes through adjudication and on other videos claiming that votes cannot be flipped using their machines. They are also on record denying that their machines can connect to the internet, a claim that has been disproved repeatedly by experts demonstrating how it is done.

I watched a video yesterday of three dump trucks being loaded with boxes of files and furniture and hauled away from Dominion's Denver office after a Civil Rights lawsuit was filed against the company by voters in all of the battleground states where Dominion voting machines were used. Those were not moving trucks. They were the kind of trucks that normally pick up junk and deliver it to a landfill.
Is Quooter a SUCKER YES

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...wsource=cl
You are the sucker, and by that, I mean a parasite as in a government dependent who should be working or looking for honest work. You are the poster boy for the gimme generation. No wonder you hate Donald J. Trump.
#81
(03-23-2021, 06:15 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 05:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 12:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 12:14 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 11:39 AM)The Outsider Wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/25/politics/...index.html

The lawsuit notes that while Giuliani spread falsehoods about Dominion being owned by Venezuelan communists and corrupting the election, he did not make those claims in lawsuits he pushed on behalf of Trump.
Didn't Quooter say they didn't have the marbles to sue Rudy and the Kraken 
Wrong once Again
Liar. I never said anything about Rudy. And I said it would be a big mistake to sue Powell or Wood and it is. Dominion will either get into a world of trouble for destroying evidence or the evidence that they produce during discovery will destroy them. You corruption cheerleaders are ignoring the lawsuits that are being filed against Dominion and the evidence arrayed against the company.

These cases will probably be in the courts for years but the truth about Dominion will probably come out eventually. Dominion employees are in videos demonstrating how to flip votes through adjudication and on other videos claiming that votes cannot be flipped using their machines. They are also on record denying that their machines can connect to the internet, a claim that has been disproved repeatedly by experts demonstrating how it is done.

I watched a video yesterday of three dump trucks being loaded with boxes of files and furniture and hauled away from Dominion's Denver office after a Civil Rights lawsuit was filed against the company by voters in all of the battleground states where Dominion voting machines were used. Those were not moving trucks. They were the kind of trucks that normally pick up junk and deliver it to a landfill.
Is Quooter a SUCKER YES

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...wsource=cl
You are the sucker, and by that, I mean a parasite as in a government dependent who should be working or looking for honest work. You are the poster boy for the gimme generation. No wonder you hate Donald J. Trump.
They always said Sucker Born Every Minute 

"Determining whether a statement is protected involves a two-step inquiry: Is the statement one which can be proved true or false? And would reasonable people conclude that the statement is one of fact, in light of its phrasing, context and the circumstances surrounding its publication," her lawyers told the court. "Analyzed under these factors, and even assuming, arguendo, that each of the statements alleged in the complaint could be proved true or false, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact."

So Quooter which one is it a SUCKER or a FOOL
IMHO a little of both
#82
(03-23-2021, 06:44 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 06:15 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 05:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 12:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 12:14 PM)vector#1 Wrote: Didn't Quooter say they didn't have the marbles to sue Rudy and the Kraken 
Wrong once Again
Liar. I never said anything about Rudy. And I said it would be a big mistake to sue Powell or Wood and it is. Dominion will either get into a world of trouble for destroying evidence or the evidence that they produce during discovery will destroy them. You corruption cheerleaders are ignoring the lawsuits that are being filed against Dominion and the evidence arrayed against the company.

These cases will probably be in the courts for years but the truth about Dominion will probably come out eventually. Dominion employees are in videos demonstrating how to flip votes through adjudication and on other videos claiming that votes cannot be flipped using their machines. They are also on record denying that their machines can connect to the internet, a claim that has been disproved repeatedly by experts demonstrating how it is done.

I watched a video yesterday of three dump trucks being loaded with boxes of files and furniture and hauled away from Dominion's Denver office after a Civil Rights lawsuit was filed against the company by voters in all of the battleground states where Dominion voting machines were used. Those were not moving trucks. They were the kind of trucks that normally pick up junk and deliver it to a landfill.
Is Quooter a SUCKER YES

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...wsource=cl
You are the sucker, and by that, I mean a parasite as in a government dependent who should be working or looking for honest work. You are the poster boy for the gimme generation. No wonder you hate Donald J. Trump.
They always said Sucker Born Every Minute 

"Determining whether a statement is protected involves a two-step inquiry: Is the statement one which can be proved true or false? And would reasonable people conclude that the statement is one of fact, in light of its phrasing, context and the circumstances surrounding its publication," her lawyers told the court. "Analyzed under these factors, and even assuming, arguendo, that each of the statements alleged in the complaint could be proved true or false, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact."

So Quooter which one is it a SUCKER or a FOOL
IMHO a little of both
Get a job, leech. It is really unhealthy to spend hour after hour spewing the hatred that you do. Your hatred of America is tantamount to biting the hand that feeds you. Parasites are not born, they are made. You can do better.
#83
(03-23-2021, 06:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 06:44 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 06:15 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 05:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(01-25-2021, 12:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: Liar. I never said anything about Rudy. And I said it would be a big mistake to sue Powell or Wood and it is. Dominion will either get into a world of trouble for destroying evidence or the evidence that they produce during discovery will destroy them. You corruption cheerleaders are ignoring the lawsuits that are being filed against Dominion and the evidence arrayed against the company.

These cases will probably be in the courts for years but the truth about Dominion will probably come out eventually. Dominion employees are in videos demonstrating how to flip votes through adjudication and on other videos claiming that votes cannot be flipped using their machines. They are also on record denying that their machines can connect to the internet, a claim that has been disproved repeatedly by experts demonstrating how it is done.

I watched a video yesterday of three dump trucks being loaded with boxes of files and furniture and hauled away from Dominion's Denver office after a Civil Rights lawsuit was filed against the company by voters in all of the battleground states where Dominion voting machines were used. Those were not moving trucks. They were the kind of trucks that normally pick up junk and deliver it to a landfill.
Is Quooter a SUCKER YES

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...wsource=cl
You are the sucker, and by that, I mean a parasite as in a government dependent who should be working or looking for honest work. You are the poster boy for the gimme generation. No wonder you hate Donald J. Trump.
They always said Sucker Born Every Minute 

"Determining whether a statement is protected involves a two-step inquiry: Is the statement one which can be proved true or false? And would reasonable people conclude that the statement is one of fact, in light of its phrasing, context and the circumstances surrounding its publication," her lawyers told the court. "Analyzed under these factors, and even assuming, arguendo, that each of the statements alleged in the complaint could be proved true or false, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact."

So Quooter which one is it a SUCKER or a FOOL
IMHO a little of both
Get a job, leech. It is really unhealthy to spend hour after hour spewing the hatred that you do. Your hatred of America is tantamount to biting the hand that feeds you. Parasites are not born, they are made. You can do better.
Aren't you mad that the Kraken, Dear Leader, My Pillow and Rudy numerous more have been lying to you Quooter
But that's what they do look for Fools and Suckers
#84
(03-23-2021, 04:34 PM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 03:12 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:37 PM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: If there was massive voter fraud, then the "official" totals are meaningless. China Joe very likely will not finish a single term as president and will be replaced by a woman who never polled higher than 3 percent support during the Democrat primaries. Biden was the "bait" in a fraudulent bait and switch election. Maybe if the bait had been better, Democrats would not have resorted to massive election fraud.

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves for allowing someone like Trump to become the face of the Party.  Biden was elected because of Trump and if Harris becomes President, then the Republicans only need to look in the mirror to see who is to blame. 

You can whine about election fraud forever, but not allowing voter suppression does not equal voter fraud.  Some of you need realize that the Jim Crowe days are over, or at least should be.


My my, what a hole has been left by ceasing to teach high school civics. The GOP had about 17 establishment candidates cued up to compete for the nomination. The PEOPLE had had enough of the monkey puke and went their own way, which was to select DJT. In other words because the GOP had demonstrated their idiocy had not abated, in retaliation the GOP got drove around by the voters they were supposed to represent.  Either way, it's not up to the GOP to decide who the nominee is to be on any given year. That decision is up to the people, and the people only.

Your Jim Crow argument was litigated in the court of public opinion in the mid 20th century, and immediately dealt with legislatively as the result. Democrats are the ones who pushed Jim Crow. I can't say I know how old you are, but I can say you're not old enough to even understand Jim Crow, much less lecture me about it. My generation and the one prior were the ones which had the courage and force of character to defeat the remaining civil rights injustices. For people like you with zero skin in the game to be judging those who actually took care of the problem, is laughably asinine. Voter suppression argument is yet another lie spawned from the bowels of the DNC in order to dupe those like yourself, who're willfully ignorant of accurate history. And I mean it's up to you but you could always try reading about it instead of getting your opinion handed to you the easy way by Rachel Maddow.

I was referring to the people who voted for Trump as the GOP candidate looking into the mirror, not the GOP establishment who did by the way botch that whole nomination process.  I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump, although I didn't vote for Clinton either. I was hoping that that the fact that Trump was not really a Republican or a Democrat might turn out to be a good thing.  He turned out to be what I was afraid he was though and thus has left our Country more divided than anytime since the 60's, in addition to burying us further in debt.  My guess is that we will continue down the path of fiscal irresponsibility and if so will face financial hardships not seen in the country since the Great Depression.

The next time I watch Rachel Maddow will be the first time I have watched Rachel Maddow, even though I have learned that watching the news that does not reflect your own ideology can be very enlightening.  You may want to try it sometime.


My apologies. I take the term GOP to mean party leaders. But I could and did vote for Trump and so did millions of others. In all sincerity, after watching the resistance go on for over 4 years... how can you attribute the divided state of affairs of your notice, to Trump? I mean, what did he do? I didn't see it, and I don't get it. Now, the CBC I saw. Pelosi and Schumer and Nadler and Schiff I saw, and the media I saw. The operatives within his own administration I learned about along with everybody else through their crimes against the US in the form of illegal breaches of national security. And I saw bozo military men who thought they knew better than the people's president.

You might not mean for your slams and criticisms to be taken personally by those who voted for DJT. Nonetheless the investigations which, despite rhetoric and talking points to the contrary, uncovered exactly nothing. And it's still going one as we speak. The number three thread on this forum people are still tying to make something out of yet another phone call, this one to Georgia. Oh there are all manner of this-is-the-big-one moments throughout the thread. But what we don't like talking about are the retractions and admissions of libel by the reporters you guys keep on quoting and dotting.

That was backhand where I mentioned Rachel, forgive me. But she is representative of the false left narrative of the aforementioned 4 year long odyssey perpetrated by a disloyal media of opposition.
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#85
(03-23-2021, 07:03 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 06:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 06:44 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 06:15 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 05:58 PM)vector#1 Wrote: Is Quooter a SUCKER YES

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...wsource=cl
You are the sucker, and by that, I mean a parasite as in a government dependent who should be working or looking for honest work. You are the poster boy for the gimme generation. No wonder you hate Donald J. Trump.
They always said Sucker Born Every Minute 

"Determining whether a statement is protected involves a two-step inquiry: Is the statement one which can be proved true or false? And would reasonable people conclude that the statement is one of fact, in light of its phrasing, context and the circumstances surrounding its publication," her lawyers told the court. "Analyzed under these factors, and even assuming, arguendo, that each of the statements alleged in the complaint could be proved true or false, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact."

So Quooter which one is it a SUCKER or a FOOL
IMHO a little of both
Get a job, leech. It is really unhealthy to spend hour after hour spewing the hatred that you do. Your hatred of America is tantamount to biting the hand that feeds you. Parasites are not born, they are made. You can do better.
Aren't you mad that the Kraken, Dear Leader, My Pillow and Rudy numerous more have been lying to you Quooter
But that's what they do look for Fools and Suckers
You're obsessed with Trump, comrade vector. China Joe is the U.S. Resident now. You should get some help. The government will probably pay for it, since you are unwilling to work.
#86
(03-23-2021, 04:42 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 04:16 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 03:35 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:44 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:28 PM)vector#1 Wrote: I couldn't imagine how you and Quooter would cry if your candidate gets over 3 million more votes and still lose the election
You get BEAT by over 7 million votes and you tried to overthrow the government 
So now you people have made it normal by not allowing transfer of power

Another lying and idiotic post ^^
Where's the LIE



The lie is in the talking points you always posting. You didn't come to those errant revelations on your own.

Dems have taught you that you can have it both ways. But I say you can't deny voter fraud without due process, while at the same time acting as if the validity of the 7 million more votes you're always ballyhooing about are beyond question. We already established in the 2016 election for example, that almost all the popular vote advantage Hillary had came from only one state; California, where we  know illegals not only vote, but are encouraged to vote. California is home BTW to millions of illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants should not vote and there is this one little qualifier to that. Illegal immigrants voting in US elections is illegal under federal and state election statutes.

That said almost everybody, and certainly everybody that has any sway on the election situation, has laid down about it long ago. I have resolved that I must submit myself to the authority of President Biden as of some time ago. That's not good enough for you though, is it vector?

Nobody tried to overthrow the government in my view. But I can assure you of one thing, you'd think twice about saying that I tried to overthrow the government to my face. You're over the line with that one, and I make no apology for my ire.
Well let's start  with your lie on California voting illegals. Your Dear Lear appointed a commission May 11 2017 and found NO VOTER FRAUD that's LIE#1

Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity - Wikipedia

As far as trying to overthrow the government what was January 6 2020 about ?
IMHO is was to STOP legal certifying of the election there was 147 republicans lawmakers who objected to the states certified results
And thousands of Dear Leader's supporters who tried to stop the certification

If you and Quooter support Dear Leader then YES you support his actions leading up to January 6 2021
Which includes STOP THE STEAL


I already addressed the advisory commission report. The report said there is significant threat of fraud associated with mail in balloting. I stand by my observation on the election laxity shown illegals in California.

The rest of your post is moronic.
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#87
(03-23-2021, 07:06 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 07:03 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 06:49 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 06:44 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 06:15 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: You are the sucker, and by that, I mean a parasite as in a government dependent who should be working or looking for honest work. You are the poster boy for the gimme generation. No wonder you hate Donald J. Trump.
They always said Sucker Born Every Minute 

"Determining whether a statement is protected involves a two-step inquiry: Is the statement one which can be proved true or false? And would reasonable people conclude that the statement is one of fact, in light of its phrasing, context and the circumstances surrounding its publication," her lawyers told the court. "Analyzed under these factors, and even assuming, arguendo, that each of the statements alleged in the complaint could be proved true or false, no reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact."

So Quooter which one is it a SUCKER or a FOOL
IMHO a little of both
Get a job, leech. It is really unhealthy to spend hour after hour spewing the hatred that you do. Your hatred of America is tantamount to biting the hand that feeds you. Parasites are not born, they are made. You can do better.
Aren't you mad that the Kraken, Dear Leader, My Pillow and Rudy numerous more have been lying to you Quooter
But that's what they do look for Fools and Suckers
You're obsessed with Trump, comrade vector. China Joe is the U.S. Resident now. You should get some help. The government will probably pay for it, since you are unwilling to work.
Quooter did Dear Leaders so called lawyers make a Fool or a Sucker out of you

(03-23-2021, 07:16 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 04:42 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 04:16 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 03:35 PM)vector#1 Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:44 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: Another lying and idiotic post ^^
Where's the LIE



The lie is in the talking points you always posting. You didn't come to those errant revelations on your own.

Dems have taught you that you can have it both ways. But I say you can't deny voter fraud without due process, while at the same time acting as if the validity of the 7 million more votes you're always ballyhooing about are beyond question. We already established in the 2016 election for example, that almost all the popular vote advantage Hillary had came from only one state; California, where we  know illegals not only vote, but are encouraged to vote. California is home BTW to millions of illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants should not vote and there is this one little qualifier to that. Illegal immigrants voting in US elections is illegal under federal and state election statutes.

That said almost everybody, and certainly everybody that has any sway on the election situation, has laid down about it long ago. I have resolved that I must submit myself to the authority of President Biden as of some time ago. That's not good enough for you though, is it vector?

Nobody tried to overthrow the government in my view. But I can assure you of one thing, you'd think twice about saying that I tried to overthrow the government to my face. You're over the line with that one, and I make no apology for my ire.
Well let's start  with your lie on California voting illegals. Your Dear Lear appointed a commission May 11 2017 and found NO VOTER FRAUD that's LIE#1

Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity - Wikipedia

As far as trying to overthrow the government what was January 6 2020 about ?
IMHO is was to STOP legal certifying of the election there was 147 republicans lawmakers who objected to the states certified results
And thousands of Dear Leader's supporters who tried to stop the certification

If you and Quooter support Dear Leader then YES you support his actions leading up to January 6 2021
Which includes STOP THE STEAL


I already addressed the advisory commission report. The report said there is significant threat of fraud associated with mail in balloting. I stand by my observation on the election laxity shown illegals in California.

The rest of your post is moronic.
I don't think you have but just keep telling the Big Lie
Who you going to believe Me or Dear Leaders own report

Report: Trump commission did not find widespread voter fraud (apnews.com)

(03-23-2021, 07:05 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 04:34 PM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 03:12 PM)TheRealThing Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 02:37 PM)The Outsider Wrote:
(03-23-2021, 12:19 PM)Hoot Gibson Wrote: If there was massive voter fraud, then the "official" totals are meaningless. China Joe very likely will not finish a single term as president and will be replaced by a woman who never polled higher than 3 percent support during the Democrat primaries. Biden was the "bait" in a fraudulent bait and switch election. Maybe if the bait had been better, Democrats would not have resorted to massive election fraud.

The GOP has no one to blame but themselves for allowing someone like Trump to become the face of the Party.  Biden was elected because of Trump and if Harris becomes President, then the Republicans only need to look in the mirror to see who is to blame. 

You can whine about election fraud forever, but not allowing voter suppression does not equal voter fraud.  Some of you need realize that the Jim Crowe days are over, or at least should be.


My my, what a hole has been left by ceasing to teach high school civics. The GOP had about 17 establishment candidates cued up to compete for the nomination. The PEOPLE had had enough of the monkey puke and went their own way, which was to select DJT. In other words because the GOP had demonstrated their idiocy had not abated, in retaliation the GOP got drove around by the voters they were supposed to represent.  Either way, it's not up to the GOP to decide who the nominee is to be on any given year. That decision is up to the people, and the people only.

Your Jim Crow argument was litigated in the court of public opinion in the mid 20th century, and immediately dealt with legislatively as the result. Democrats are the ones who pushed Jim Crow. I can't say I know how old you are, but I can say you're not old enough to even understand Jim Crow, much less lecture me about it. My generation and the one prior were the ones which had the courage and force of character to defeat the remaining civil rights injustices. For people like you with zero skin in the game to be judging those who actually took care of the problem, is laughably asinine. Voter suppression argument is yet another lie spawned from the bowels of the DNC in order to dupe those like yourself, who're willfully ignorant of accurate history. And I mean it's up to you but you could always try reading about it instead of getting your opinion handed to you the easy way by Rachel Maddow.

I was referring to the people who voted for Trump as the GOP candidate looking into the mirror, not the GOP establishment who did by the way botch that whole nomination process.  I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump, although I didn't vote for Clinton either. I was hoping that that the fact that Trump was not really a Republican or a Democrat might turn out to be a good thing.  He turned out to be what I was afraid he was though and thus has left our Country more divided than anytime since the 60's, in addition to burying us further in debt.  My guess is that we will continue down the path of fiscal irresponsibility and if so will face financial hardships not seen in the country since the Great Depression.

The next time I watch Rachel Maddow will be the first time I have watched Rachel Maddow, even though I have learned that watching the news that does not reflect your own ideology can be very enlightening.  You may want to try it sometime.


My apologies. I take the term GOP to mean party leaders. But I could and did vote for Trump and so did millions of others. In all sincerity, after watching the resistance go on for over 4 years... how can you attribute the divided state of affairs of your notice, to Trump? I mean, what did he do? I didn't see it, and I don't get it. Now, the CBC I saw. Pelosi and Schumer and Nadler and Schiff I saw, and the media I saw. The operatives within his own administration I learned about along with everybody else through their crimes against the US in the form of illegal breaches of national security. And I saw bozo military men who thought they knew better than the people's president.

You might not mean for your slams and criticisms to be taken personally by those who voted for DJT. Nonetheless the investigations which, despite rhetoric and talking points to the contrary, uncovered exactly nothing. And it's still going one as we speak. The number three thread on this forum people are still tying to make something out of yet another phone call, this one to Georgia. Oh there are all manner of this-is-the-big-one moments throughout the thread. But what we don't like talking about are the retractions and admissions of libel by the reporters you guys keep on quoting and dotting.

That was backhand where I mentioned Rachel, forgive me. But she is representative of the false left narrative of the aforementioned 4 year long odyssey perpetrated by a disloyal media of opposition.
You have been brainwashed of course you will see NO Wrongdoing
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^^ I would ask you to tell us what it was you think Trump did wrong, but I've had enough talking points for now. Meanwhile and hilariously, the guy who hasn't had the first original thought in his whole life, thinks he could call anybody else brainwashed. Please.
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(03-23-2021, 10:10 PM)TheRealThing Wrote: ^^ I would ask you to tell us what it was you think Trump did wrong, but I've had enough talking points for now. Meanwhile and hilariously, the guy who hasn't had the first original thought in his whole life, thinks he could call anybody else brainwashed.  Please.
He tried to overthrow the election any reasonable person should be able to see that


https://twitter.com/i/status/1329492201538195456
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...d=msedgdhp

I hope they put them out of business

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