[SouthEast18]

What a mess

[Bulldogs4Ever]

I heard Heston Beverly will be the new coach.

[DarrinC]

I know it's what you meant to say.
Anyone can look at your post history and see you're not a Spurlock fan.

I just think it's misleading to say they were paying him not to coach. They paid him because they agreed to pay him.

Yeah same as I guess mine is just more blunt I suppose lol

[K40]

Yeah same as I guess mine is just more blunt I suppose lol

No, your posts insinuate that they bought him out in some fashion. Do most people here even know how coaching pay works? It is typically $5,000 or less. There’s a reason people get degrees to become teachers as well. You are making it sound like some high profile college coaching deal where they pay someone X amount of dollars in a contract clause to terminate them.

Coaching positions are not tenured and contracts are a year to year basis. Each year you sign a new one. Each year you agree to take a minuscule amount of pay for an insurmountable load of work.

Literally — you have to be REHIRED each year as a coach.

Please understand the process.

[Wildcatk23]

No way they let those kids come back. No way!

Why not ? They didn’t quit because of playing time etc... they quit because there coach was a self centered asshole who should t have been hired to begin with. His buddies hired him over a coach that should have kept his job.

[Westside]

Why not ? They didn’t quit because of playing time etc... they quit because there coach was a self centered asshole who should t have been hired to begin with. His buddies hired him over a coach that should have kept his job.

The reason I wouldn't let them come back is not only did they quit on themselves, but they quit on their teammates. Why would you let them come back after that? Their teammates have been practicing for weeks now and suffering loss after loss while the players that quit have been sitting at the house. How would that be fair to those that have been putting in all this work?

[Spud6]

Why not ? They didn’t quit because of playing time etc... they quit because there coach was a self centered asshole who should t have been hired to begin with. His buddies hired him over a coach that should have kept his job.

1. They probably have not been practicing on their own time staying in shape and being basketball ready.

2. One of the kids left and moved to Wesley Christian apparently but I heard he was back in classes Friday at Floyd Central from a teacher there.

3. What does that show the kids that stuck it out and didn’t think things were bad enough to leave like the other 8? They’ve been practicing all year and busting their butt to win games and get better.

The only way I see this as ok to let the kids back on the team is if they have a team vote from the kids that are left and see what they say. That’s the only way I see fair.

[Rainingthrees]

Absolutely would not allow them back, period!

[pjdoug]

Sounds like Kevin is out. I know there was a lot going on but I don’t think he ever had a chance. Regardless of what he did or didn’t do, the beaver creek faithful didn’t want him they already had their guy

:Clap:

[pjdoug]

The Lexington Herald Leader is reporting Shawn Hager has been named interim coach.

https://www.kentucky.com/sports/high-sch...38280.html

hmmm

[pjdoug]

Wait, so the coaches son will now be allowed to play after not touching a basketball all season and not even on the team? Big gripes are going to be going down even after they’ve pushed Spurlock out.

You got that right.

[pjdoug]

Absolutely would not allow them back, period!

Coach Norman Dale : I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. These six individuals have made a choice to work, a choice to sacrifice, to put themselves on the line 23 nights for the next 4 months, to represent you, this high school. That kind of commitment and effort deserves and demands your respect. This is your team.

[BallFan1952]

No, your posts insinuate that they bought him out in some fashion. Do most people here even know how coaching pay works? It is typically $5,000 or less. There’s a reason people get degrees to become teachers as well. You are making it sound like some high profile college coaching deal where they pay someone X amount of dollars in a contract clause to terminate them.

Coaching positions are not tenured and contracts are a year to year basis. Each year you sign a new one. Each year you agree to take a minuscule amount of pay for an insurmountable load of work.

Literally — you have to be REHIRED each year as a coach.

Please understand the process.

Well said but I don't totally agree with that $5000.00 number, sometimes they can come up with creative ways to help get extra money to a coach. They may give the coach some extended days, like a principal gets because they work more than a standard 180 day teacher contract, or they may create some type of special position for them and pay them extra and give them more extended days or maybe create a additional job that can be paid with Title 1 money which is handled at the school level, or maybe let them use the school gyms to hold camps and keep the camp fees, and it all depends on how bad they want a certain coach, so what starts at $5000.00 may end up being $20,000.00 or more a year when the smoke clears.

I believe coaches should be paid and paid well, coaching is hard work and it's just another form of teaching. Most coaches I know, coach because they love the game but they want to be paid too.

[WinkWinkler]

I guess the girls on the softball team that he coaches are not as sensitive as the boys that quit.

[Broken Play18]

The reason I wouldn't let them come back is not only did they quit on themselves, but they quit on their teammates. Why would you let them come back after that? Their teammates have been practicing for weeks now and suffering loss after loss while the players that quit have been sitting at the house. How would that be fair to those that have been putting in all this work?

Asking for all players be treated with respect is the mountain top of disrespect. :Thumbs:

[CBDV]

Coming to a school near you soon!!!!

[Brian aka Philip]

"maybe let them use the school gyms to hold camps and keep the camp fees" BINGO

it's a cash cow. use your players to work the camps and the development leagues. free labor to handle all those kids. double score.

[Wildcatk23]

1. They probably have not been practicing on their own time staying in shape and being basketball ready.

2. One of the kids left and moved to Wesley Christian apparently but I heard he was back in classes Friday at Floyd Central from a teacher there.

3. What does that show the kids that stuck it out and didn’t think things were bad enough to leave like the other 8? They’ve been practicing all year and busting their butt to win games and get better.

The only way I see this as ok to let the kids back on the team is if they have a team vote from the kids that are left and see what they say. That’s the only way I see fair.

The kids shouldn’t of had to quit . The coach should have been fired . I would imagane the kids who stayed on the team was from the “select” school.

[IntheZone]

Why would a coach hold a camp for his or her feeder schools and charge admission? You should want ALL athletes in your district to improve. If he or she was doing it for the right reason it would most certainly be free for the students in their district whoms parents tax money already pay their salary. I know at Sheldon Clark both b ball coaches make around 14,000 a year just for their stipends. Not counting extended days. Now if said camp was a fundraiser for the TEAM That is a different story but to put that money in the coaches pocket. In the words of Randy Moss, COM’ ON MAN.

[Spud6]

The kids shouldn’t of had to quit . The coach should have been fired . I would imagane the kids who stayed on the team was from the “select” school.

What do you mean by select school? Allen Central before conjoining?

[zaga_fan]

If they were going to fire him they should have done this from the get go. As is they suspended him for 3 games saying that was enough.

I agree that they need to bring in someone that has no ties to the area. But even if they do that would they let him coach, or would they tell him HOW to coach. You would really have to love the game to subject yourself to that.

From what I can tell, this is a legitimate resignation and not a forced one. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out to be a forced one, but it looks like parents and fans kept piling on while he coached half a team through several blowouts.

[Cardinalfootballguy]

I can’t give an account for his pay situation at other schools.
I know he left SC to coach at Perry.

He may have been ousted at Clay or Hazard. I can’t really remember.

Things was getting rocky at SC, remember BJ moore? He ran him off the team at one point as well.

[thegr81]

Coach Norman Dale : I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. These six individuals have made a choice to work, a choice to sacrifice, to put themselves on the line 23 nights for the next 4 months, to represent you, this high school. That kind of commitment and effort deserves and demands your respect. This is your team.

Then he let Chitwood come out and the rest is history!

[Wildcatk23]

Things was getting rocky at SC, remember BJ moore? He ran him off the team at one point as well.

That’s one way to put it .

[clipperw]

Things was getting rocky at SC, remember BJ moore? He ran him off the team at one point as well.

Didnt Moore quit his junior year, then came back to the team play his senior year under Spurlock?

Which I give BJ credit for that, he could have transferred to another school and played elsewhere as a senior most likely. Yet, he chose to come back and play his senior year at Sheldon Clark, even if it meant playing for a coach that he may have disagreed with.

I live in Floyd County and like to see the county schools do well, but I also like to see Sheldon Clark do well too. I think had Justin Johnson stayed, they would have won at least one 15th Region title.

I have heard a rumor that Hager is having open tryouts at Floyd Central. I believe their first game under Hager is Tuesday against Pike Central. It will be interesting to see who all is on the roster then for the Jaguars.

[CBDV]

Why would a coach hold a camp for his or her feeder schools and charge admission? You should want ALL athletes in your district to improve. If he or she was doing it for the right reason it would most certainly be free for the students in their district whoms parents tax money already pay their salary. I know at Sheldon Clark both b ball coaches make around 14,000 a year just for their stipends. Not counting extended days. Now if said camp was a fundraiser for the TEAM That is a different story but to put that money in the coaches pocket. In the words of Randy Moss, COM’ ON MAN.

You do know that Martin Co. in very unique in the Superintendents brother is the coach, right?

You also know that no other school district pays that much.....right?

Spurlock isn’t that hardcore of a coach, he expects kids to play hard, demands respect, and doesn’t play favorites.

[DarrinC]

No, your posts insinuate that they bought him out in some fashion. Do most people here even know how coaching pay works? It is typically $5,000 or less. There’s a reason people get degrees to become teachers as well. You are making it sound like some high profile college coaching deal where they pay someone X amount of dollars in a contract clause to terminate them.

Coaching positions are not tenured and contracts are a year to year basis. Each year you sign a new one. Each year you agree to take a minuscule amount of pay for an insurmountable load of work.

Literally — you have to be REHIRED each year as a coach.

Please understand the process.

Your right for the most part but a coach usually signs a 2 year contract same with football and baseball. Should a school choose to hire a new coach the second year they still have to pay that said coach because he has a contract.

[BallFan1952]

Your right for the most part but a coach usually signs a 2 year contract same with football and baseball. Should a school choose to hire a new coach the second year they still have to pay that said coach because he has a contract.

By law a superintendent must send a letter out to each employee of district in May that there may be changes in jobs or pay, this is so the school board can work on and set their budget, then the superintendent hires back the needed people to make the district run. Teachers that have earned tenure get hired back as they should, however depending on circumstances they may be reassigned to a different class or grade where they are needed and sometimes even to a different school if needed, now this is just the simple version of how things works in Ky. The only exception to this is the superintendent contract which is longer than 1 year, and I think that 4 years is the longest they can get unless renewed by the board members.

Coaching positions are considered classified positions which means they don’t have tenure in their coaching position, it’s year by year however if you know a coach that has found a loop hole in the KDE, KSB or KRS rules PLEASE share it with us, every coach would love to know.

I think it’s generally understood if a coach does a good job they get hired back and why not, they’ve done what was expected of them, now this is where it can get complicated, who decides what is expected of the coach and their conduct and what happens if they don’t live up to their end of the agreement.

I’m not saying there are not 2 year contracts out there, I’ve not heard of them but there is a lot of things I don’t know or seen but I’m willing to learned something new.

[BallFan1952]

You do know that Martin Co. in very unique in the Superintendents brother is the coach, right?

You also know that no other school district pays that much.....right?

Spurlock isn’t that hardcore of a coach, he expects kids to play hard, demands respect, and doesn’t play favorites.

I think most people know that Coach “JJ” James is Larry James the MC superintendent brother, however JJ was the coach before Larry got the superintendent job, no rules broken and should he be punished because Larry got hired?

People have expressed their opinions that coaches don’t get paid enough to coach and I agree, so my question is, does Sheldon Clark pay to much or are the other high schools just a bunch of “cheap asses” or have they found better ways to hide the money???

Kevin Spurlock may be “hardcore or old school” however there are some lines that should not crossed. If a coach wants respect maybe they need to earn it first and lead by example. Behavior will change attitude, good or bad...

I grew up with a father and coaches that liked to cuss and I think I turned out ok, but I wonder how things would of been if I got less verbal abuse... who knows, I sometimes slip and cuss and I know for me, it doesn’t make me a bigger or better person, but I’m human and make mistakes, but trying to change.

A coach’s conduct not only reflects on them but on the kids, the team, the school and the community.

I clearly don’t know who should set the code of conduct for coaches, but most if not all schools have rules for teacher conduct, so why not coaches? If cussing is alright for HS boys is ok to cuss elementary or middle school kids to motivate them? If a coach uses the “P” word for the boys can they use it with the girls too??? I know there are lots of ways to motivate players, however I’m not sure verbal abuse and cussing is the best way, but we can agree to disagree on this one point.

It’s a new day at Floyd Central and Shawn Hager is the coach now and it’s his decision who can be on his team and who can’t... and yes Shawn will push the players hard to get their best as he should....

[Patriot train]

Your right for the most part but a coach usually signs a 2 year contract same with football and baseball. Should a school choose to hire a new coach the second year they still have to pay that said coach because he has a contract.

contracts are year to year, would be some kind of special deal if it's any more than a year. Not done a lot. As to where he was before, coaching pay was 10,000 just like the girls job. Also they find other ways to pay more for like asst athletic director, etc..... I believe he was making like 80+ thousand or more if the truth was known.
What happened was they expected him to be coach, he ran his summer program and things started to go down hill with a certain player that threatened to leave if something was not done about him and his ways. A certain board member made sure that he would not be coaching that year, but was past the date that a coach has to be let know they will no longer be the coach. So due to the fact that it was too late for him to find another job and it would of been illegal for them not to pay him for the contract that he already signed, he was paid for what they said they would be him, as he stayed on to just teach, which was about 3 classes a day.
So it was all because they did not let him know by that certain date in April that he would no longer be coaching that they still had to pay him even if he wasn't going to coach.
It was a big mistake hiring him in the first place, but he was bringing the Johnson kid and all they were worried about at the time was getting one of the home town boys some help to get to Rupp.