[Jack Lambert]

Name the matchups they win.

You’re a funny man Frank Martin,I have beat my head against the wall before talking to people like you it’s a waste of time we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

[Hound05]

Boyle played without their best player. The game was never in doubt. NH never had a lead. 400+ yards of offense. 2 TDs called back. ALL IN THE MUD. NH had three plays that gained 80% of their total yards.

DeSales could not beat Boyle, especially on turf.

A 7 pt win and the game was never in doubt haha. Come on FoSho I’m a homer. But come on

[Hound05]

1) Male
2) Covington Catholic
3) F. Douglas
4) Desales
5) Boyle Co.
6) B. Green
7) S, Warren
8) Mayfield
9) CAL
10) Butler
11) Scott Co.
12) St. X
13) J. Central
14) Trinity
15) Highlands
16) Belfry
17) Corbin
18) Southwestern
19) N. Hardin
20) Manual
21) Beechwood
22) Ashland
23) F. Simpson
24) S. Oldham
25) H. Clay

This is just one person's opinion, so, it's definitely up for debate. Thoughts?

I think the top 5 is spot on. After that of course there could be some switching

[Jack Lambert]

A 7 pt win and the game was never in doubt haha. Come on FoSho I’m a homer. But come on

The game was never in doubt, Boyle had 5 drives inside the 20 yard line with no points around 75% of North Hardin’s yds came on three plays they could not move the ball consistently at all on Boyle’s defense and they never led and no I was never worried about Boyle losing, the game was no where near as close as the final score would indicate.

[Hoot Gibson]

What’s JC record against the birds? I’m sure there are a lot of teams that would have liked the birds on their schedule the last 3 seasons. Has JC tried to schedule the birds in the last 15 seasons?

Their record this season against Highlands is 0-0, which is all that matters in this thread. JC does not generally schedule teams that are unwilling to agree to a home and away series.

Highlands should be competing in 4A. They would not have much of a chance of winning the 4A title either, but they have very little chance of winning a district title in 5A and a near zero chance of winning a state 5A title. Covington Catholic and Beechwood are outstanding teams in their respective classes, but the rest of NKY, including Highlands is pretty weak this year.

[Hoot Gibson]

Highlands does have troubles against bigger o lines. Biggest problem with highlands though is there offense. It causes the D to be on the field too much and gives other teams short field. Offense against SC killed highlands. The defense was doing fair until offense gave SC great field position (dropped TD pass,dropped first down pass, bad play calling). If I recall correctly SC started past midfield 4or5 straight times. Defense looked ok until that happened. Another possession sc was 4thand33 and baled out on a bad PI. So yes I think SC is better than hhs but that was one of those game everything went wrong. Both O and D have gotten better and if they made sc drive length of field the game would be a much better game.

My comments about Highlands were intended for the arrogant Highlands supporters who have taken so many shots at Johnson Central's program and coach over the years. I have never counted you in that group.

However, I always pull for Covington Catholic when they play Highlands because of the arrogance of Dale Mueller and a large number of Highlands' fans during the Mueller era. Covington Catholic's coaches and most of their fans always handled themselves with class whether they won or lost their games with Johnson Central.

[sstack]

My comments about Highlands were intended for the arrogant Highlands supporters who have taken so many shots at Johnson Central's program and coach over the years. I have never counted you in that group.

However, I always pull for Covington Catholic when they play Highlands because of the arrogance of Dale Mueller and a large number of Highlands' fans during the Mueller era. Covington Catholic's coaches and most of their fans always handled themselves with class whether they won or lost their games with Johnson Central.

Hoot, you can’t paint a whole program by a few people. There was a recent article by a coach (can’t remember might have been lex cath), and he could not stop praising hhs program and stated “that is the way you do it”. He was not just talking about football but the way the team was treated before and after the game, from being meeted at the buses, escorted to locker room, meals provided after game etc. I will have to try to find it again and post it here. I work with and live close to a lot of covcath people and there are a lot of not to classy things that go on there too. Some fans just kind of lose their minds over their sports programs. Most in ft Thomas are here for the great academics offered by highlands and it is just nice to have good sports programs too.

[sstack]

Also when you have two good teams who are rivals, it tends have people start negative comments about each other. JC and HHS went through that but I personally can say the JC people I met were nothing but good when coming to ft Thomas and the ones we met when traveling there.

[Hoot Gibson]

Hoot, you can’t paint a whole program by a few people. There was a recent article by a coach (can’t remember might have been lex cath), and he could not stop praising hhs program and stated “that is the way you do it”. He was not just talking about football but the way the team was treated before and after the game, from being meeted at the buses, escorted to locker room, meals provided after game etc. I will have to try to find it again and post it here. I work with and live close to a lot of covcath people and there are a lot of not to classy things that go on there too. Some fans just kind of lose their minds over their sports programs. Most in ft Thomas are here for the great academics offered by highlands and it is just nice to have good sports programs too.

I'm not painting the entire program in any way, but most people who follow any sports teams find reasons to root for one team over others. Any team that has the prolonged success that Highlands has enjoyed is going to inspire most people to pull for their underdog opponents - it's just human nature.

[FoSho]

IMO Boyle can't match the overall football speed (yeah I know you have track champs), can't match skill, can't match depth, and I believe the coaching is a lot closer than you think. Name the areas Boyle wins, e.g. O line, D Line, jReceivers, running backs, etc..

The simple fact you think the coaching staffs are remotely close is laughable and disqualifies you from further debate.

😂

I will not do specifics because it's not fair to the kids.

[FoSho]

A 7 pt win and the game was never in doubt haha. Come on FoSho I’m a homer. But come on

We controlled the game the entire time. It was 14-0 at half....dude I was there. We conservatively ran the clock on O and stuffed them on D minus 3 plays.

Dry field it was a running clock.

[Woodsman]

I’m a homer.

No effing waaaaaay? Who would have thought?

[sstack]

I'm not painting the entire program in any way, but most people who follow any sports teams find reasons to root for one team over others. Any team that has the prolonged success that Highlands has enjoyed is going to inspire most people to pull for their underdog opponents - it's just human nature.

You are exactly right and some Highlands fans are just having a hard time with that the last couple years

[Frank Martin]

The simple fact you think the coaching staffs are remotely close is laughable and disqualifies you from further debate.

😂

I will not do specifics because it's not fair to the kids.

Ok homer. All you do is prop Boyle on a pedestal, trash every other team and when it comes to actual unbiased opinions and debate you don't have anything or "it's not fair to the kids". Is it fair to the kids to call other teams "trash". Boyle is a fantastic high school team that I like and root for but it's homers like you that make it really hard to do that. I went to 3 of their games last year including the championship game. I have been to watch them this year and I will be rooting for them against LC, etc. but my UNBIASED opinion based on actual knowledge, seeing them each play multiple times and knowing their strengths and weaknesses is that FD is better.

[Frank Martin]

You’re a funny man Frank Martin,I have beat my head against the wall before talking to people like you it’s a waste of time we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

Yep, people like me....people that have an unbiased opinion based on actual knowledge are definitely not who you want to debate with.

[Nky guru]

Their record this season against Highlands is 0-0, which is all that matters in this thread. JC does not generally schedule teams that are unwilling to agree to a home and away series.

Highlands should be competing in 4A. They would not have much of a chance of winning the 4A title either, but they have very little chance of winning a
district title in 5A and a near zero chance
of winning a state 5A title. Covington Catholic and Beechwood are outstanding teams in their respective classes, but the rest of NKY, including Highlands is pretty weak this year.

To be honest I’m really not a birds fan. I just thought a JC fan bashing Highlands was funny.

[Woodsman]

It's called an upset and these rankings are based on full body of work, not just one game. Scott went way down from #3 last week because of that loss, but, still deserve to be where they're at now.

If Henry clay just outclassed Scott county.....it defies logic to have Scott county at 11 and Henry clay at 25. “Body of work” doesn’t matter. Either Henry clay is waaaay too low or Scott county is waaaaay too high. I think the latter.

[Woodsman]

Hoot, you can’t paint a whole program by a few people. There was a recent article by a coach (can’t remember might have been lex cath), and he could not stop praising hhs program and stated “that is the way you do it”. He was not just talking about football but the way the team was treated before and after the game, from being meeted at the buses, escorted to locker room, meals provided after game etc. I will have to try to find it again and post it here. I work with and live close to a lot of covcath people and there are a lot of not to classy things that go on there too. Some fans just kind of lose their minds over their sports programs. Most in ft Thomas are here for the great academics offered by highlands and it is just nice to have good sports programs too.

That’s kinda funny. Why do most people dislike the highlands football program and a good portion of their fan base? It’s definetly not the win/loss margin as most unselfaware highlands fans suggest. There are other schools with elite success that do not garner the negativity that highlands does. I wonder why that is? I don’t have a dog in the fight just sayin....

[Westside]

If Henry clay just outclassed Scott county.....it defies logic to have Scott county at 11 and Henry clay at 25. “Body of work” doesn’t matter. Either Henry clay is waaaay too low or Scott county is waaaaay too high. I think the latter.

tare:

[FoSho]

Ok homer. All you do is prop Boyle on a pedestal, trash every other team and when it comes to actual unbiased opinions and debate you don't have anything or "it's not fair to the kids". Is it fair to the kids to call other teams "trash". Boyle is a fantastic high school team that I like and root for but it's homers like you that make it really hard to do that. I went to 3 of their games last year including the championship game. I have been to watch them this year and I will be rooting for them against LC, etc. but my UNBIASED opinion based on actual knowledge, seeing them each play multiple times and knowing their strengths and weaknesses is that FD is better.

And you're wrong.

But that's a given.

[FoSho]

Yep, people like me....people that have an unbiased opinion based on actual knowledge are definitely not who you want to debate with.

You have no knowledge of either program. You watch games and form an opinion like everyone else.

....and IMO your opinion it trash.

[Real Badman]

Johnson Central would get drummed by Louisville Trinity. Fact.

[Woodsman]

tare:

Dude Henry Clay just ran rough shod over Scott county. It wasn’t just a competitive game that slipped by Scott county. Scott county got blown out. No way around that. Either Henry clay is very underrated or Scott county is overrated. I’m going with the latter.

[sstack]

If Henry clay just outclassed Scott county.....it defies logic to have Scott county at 11 and Henry clay at 25. “Body of work” doesn’t matter. Either Henry clay is waaaay too low or Scott county is waaaaay too high. I think the latter.

I think the style of football Scott County plays is a really bad matchup for some teams and good match up for other teams. And if the team can get up a score or 2 on Scott County that puts them in trouble because they are very slow methodical type of offense. And SC looked very weak in pass defense. Did HC pass a lot? Does HC have big D line?

[Craze JACKET man]

#11 will beat the brakes off of #3 this week. Take it to the bank!!

[Frank Martin]

[quote=FoSho]You have no knowledge of either program. You watch games and form an opinion like everyone else.

....and IMO your opinion it trash.[/QUOTE

Once again profound and full of interesting dialogue and insight.

[Westside]

Dude Henry Clay just ran rough shod over Scott county. It wasn’t just a competitive game that slipped by Scott county. Scott county got blown out. No way around that. Either Henry clay is very underrated or Scott county is overrated. I’m going with the latter.

To say that a body of work doesn't matter in a poll makes no sense what so ever. A body of work is a component of any poll with an ounce of validity. That is why the BCS Poll isn't released until several weeks into the season. That is why the teams with fewer loses are generally ranked higher than those with more loses. Strength of schedule is obviously also a component. Am I misinterpreting your statement?

[FoSho]

[quote=FoSho]You have no knowledge of either program. You watch games and form an opinion like everyone else.

....and IMO your opinion it trash.[/QUOTE

Once again profound and full of interesting dialogue and insight.

I've given mine. You've given yours.

Yours is trash. 😜

[Woodsman]

To say that a body of work doesn't matter in a poll makes no sense what so ever. A body of work is a component of any poll with an ounce of validity. That is why the BCS Poll isn't released until several weeks into the season. That is why the teams with fewer loses are generally ranked higher than those with more loses. Strength of schedule is obviously also a component. Am I misinterpreting your statement?

Not really misunderstanding but overemphasizing actual verbiage. Obviously Scotty county’s body of work factors into the equation....but a bad loss to Henry clay far exceeds the importance of any good derived from wins over moeller or highlands. It’s just a really really bad loss.

[Westside]

Not really misunderstanding but overemphasizing actual verbiage. Obviously Scotty county’s body of work factors into the equation....but a bad loss to Henry clay far exceeds the importance of any good derived from wins over moeller or highlands. It’s just a really really bad loss.

What makes Henry Clay a bad loss? Do they have bad losses? If so are we using a double standard here and not penalizing Henry Clay for their loses?