08-21-2018, 09:55 PM
During the entire 8 years of Obama's miserable tenure, we heard over and over again about how we were getting record numbers of deportations, and that the border controls were working perfectly. Further, we were told there were only about 11 million illegal aliens lurking about, (as if that number was somehow acceptable) and the vast majority of those were the result of overstayed visas.
Of course like just about everything else coming out of the Obama administration, the above mentioned assurances were bald faced lies. And because the embedded deepstate continues to stick to the 11 million figure, the true number remains as illusive as bigfoot. It turns out that behind the scenes while Obama and his spokesmen were publicly denying the insurgency and declaring the border to be nearly air-tight, our own elected government were covertly encouraging illegal border crossings. I mean how else could one describe the situation we have? According to the dictates of the catch and release law, anybody who can manage to step one foot on US soil, are by law not only released into the general population, they are given everything they need to survive including of course, cell phones. But according to our President, the true number of illegals is north of 34 million, not 11 million.
Such is the typical liberal modus operandi. First they deny the problem, mocking those who sound the alarm for being stupid. Then after years of stonewalling and the proof has become too overwhelming to deny, such as is the case with the millions of illegal bordercrashers (and their children) who're now undeniably living on the tax payer dime. But having been inevitably caught up in their lies, libs shamelessly just change gears and take to demanding that the taxpayer funded clemency be continued on humanitarian grounds for the 34 million established criminals; Who BTW, just happen to be likely Democrat voters. I mean, it would be cruel to deny these illegal wards of the American state now, think of the damage to their innocent children! News flash, Al Capone, who BTW justified his life of crime by citing the injustices he saw in the American culture, had children too. Four daughters. Should he not have done any time because he was a father? :please: But it would follow then, that voter ID's are one of the hills to die on for Democrats. All the illegal immigrants would be of no use to Dems if they couldn't vote. Not exactly rocket science. Incredibly the labor oriented part of their base to include unions, go along with it all. Can willful ignorance explain the departure from sanity?
At any rate we've seen the argument unfold from the above mentioned state of denial, to the present day outright militant demands to abolish ICE altogether. In other words having again been ultimately exposed, libs just doubled down in their impudence and 'owned it.' Where is the voter retribution for all this deceit? In full disclosure at long last, we now see the ultimate truth of the calls for open immigration. Because from among the many others, prominent Socialists Bernie Sanders, Ocasia-Cortez and Keith Ellison, are calling for no borders at all. If mushrooms like these get their way the people of this land can forget feeling secure by merely locking the front door at night. Even gated neighborhoods would be routinely overrun by thugs out looking to steal, rape and pillage. Of course, this would come about after they'd taken away the people's right to own and bear arms.
The American voter are being taken for fools, and to some degree there are those who are all too willing to comply. So in 2 1/2 months voters will head out to the polls. Some of them will see their votes disenfranchised by fraud such as the still lingering 'dead vote,' an untold number of illegal voters, and who knows what else to include fraudulent absentee ballots. I believe conservative voters need to over-perform to win, especially in precincts where the Democratic vote has been coming in, in greater numbers than the number of those who are registered to even vote there.
Of course like just about everything else coming out of the Obama administration, the above mentioned assurances were bald faced lies. And because the embedded deepstate continues to stick to the 11 million figure, the true number remains as illusive as bigfoot. It turns out that behind the scenes while Obama and his spokesmen were publicly denying the insurgency and declaring the border to be nearly air-tight, our own elected government were covertly encouraging illegal border crossings. I mean how else could one describe the situation we have? According to the dictates of the catch and release law, anybody who can manage to step one foot on US soil, are by law not only released into the general population, they are given everything they need to survive including of course, cell phones. But according to our President, the true number of illegals is north of 34 million, not 11 million.
Such is the typical liberal modus operandi. First they deny the problem, mocking those who sound the alarm for being stupid. Then after years of stonewalling and the proof has become too overwhelming to deny, such as is the case with the millions of illegal bordercrashers (and their children) who're now undeniably living on the tax payer dime. But having been inevitably caught up in their lies, libs shamelessly just change gears and take to demanding that the taxpayer funded clemency be continued on humanitarian grounds for the 34 million established criminals; Who BTW, just happen to be likely Democrat voters. I mean, it would be cruel to deny these illegal wards of the American state now, think of the damage to their innocent children! News flash, Al Capone, who BTW justified his life of crime by citing the injustices he saw in the American culture, had children too. Four daughters. Should he not have done any time because he was a father? :please: But it would follow then, that voter ID's are one of the hills to die on for Democrats. All the illegal immigrants would be of no use to Dems if they couldn't vote. Not exactly rocket science. Incredibly the labor oriented part of their base to include unions, go along with it all. Can willful ignorance explain the departure from sanity?
At any rate we've seen the argument unfold from the above mentioned state of denial, to the present day outright militant demands to abolish ICE altogether. In other words having again been ultimately exposed, libs just doubled down in their impudence and 'owned it.' Where is the voter retribution for all this deceit? In full disclosure at long last, we now see the ultimate truth of the calls for open immigration. Because from among the many others, prominent Socialists Bernie Sanders, Ocasia-Cortez and Keith Ellison, are calling for no borders at all. If mushrooms like these get their way the people of this land can forget feeling secure by merely locking the front door at night. Even gated neighborhoods would be routinely overrun by thugs out looking to steal, rape and pillage. Of course, this would come about after they'd taken away the people's right to own and bear arms.
The American voter are being taken for fools, and to some degree there are those who are all too willing to comply. So in 2 1/2 months voters will head out to the polls. Some of them will see their votes disenfranchised by fraud such as the still lingering 'dead vote,' an untold number of illegal voters, and who knows what else to include fraudulent absentee ballots. I believe conservative voters need to over-perform to win, especially in precincts where the Democratic vote has been coming in, in greater numbers than the number of those who are registered to even vote there.
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08-22-2018, 12:50 AM
vector Wrote:The American voter are being taken for fools
I will agree on that part
My initial thought concerning your post was to suggest that one day you might grasp the importance of context. But that was immediately washed away by the knowledge that truth is irrelevant to a lib.
Libs look around and see the greatness of America, and somehow without a clue to what sustains America, they nonetheless derive a sense of security from what they see. At the same time they choose not to acknowledge the two things that made/make her great, Godâs blessings and the blood of her patriots. From such a state of denial, they then choose as I mentioned in the thread starter, to mock the very people smart enough to realize that the fight for freedom never ends.
Believe the ridiculousness of the left if you want, my comments were intended mostly for voters whom tend to put truth and reason ahead of the absurdities coming out of the bowels of the DNC.
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08-22-2018, 02:56 AM
08-22-2018, 02:57 AM
vector Wrote:And you think Donald is a patriot ?
I am starting to believe you work for the Russians :biglmao::biglmao::biglmao:
Yes I think the President is a patriot. And I think those like you who wish for his demise, are absurdly simple minded. Supposedly you work in the coal industry. How can you deny the resurgence of the coal industry, not to mention energy sector in general? Laughable
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08-22-2018, 03:02 AM
Bob Seger Wrote:I'll say this, I trust the Russians far more than I do you liberal goof balls. You stupid asses are by far a bigger danger to the American way of life than they ever thought about being.
Nary a brain among them.
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08-22-2018, 03:22 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:Yes I think the President is a patriot. And I think those like you who wish for his demise, are absurdly simple minded. Supposedly you work in the coal industry. How can you deny the resurgence of the coal industry, not to mention energy sector in general? Laughable[Image: http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/pic...tureid=760]
08-22-2018, 03:26 AM
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I gotta say vector, the last two posts you’ve put up are among your very best! :Thumbs:
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08-22-2018, 07:32 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Yes I think the President is a patriot. And I think those like you who wish for his demise, are absurdly simple minded. Supposedly you work in the coal industry. How can you deny the resurgence of the coal industry, not to mention energy sector in general? Laughable
It's simple. They're called facts.
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08-22-2018, 10:19 PM
Motley Wrote:It's simple. They're called facts.
Coal
What a load. Prior to the Bevin administration, Kentucky was so all-in to do Obama's bidding on ObamaCare and the elimination of fossil fuels usage, Steve Beshear's head (though hardened by years of not being used) nearly imploded. Thus in the coming years, this state will continue to suffer for the treachery of ol Stevie's dirty dealings on behalf of the man from Kenya.
To say it will take time for Kentucky's coal revival to occur is an understatement of epic sarcasm. You cited the Lexington Herald Leader, which has a tendency to be a manipulative purveyor of fake news. I used to like reading the Leader, but I quit taking or reading it, when it was taken over by the present bunch of liberals, who seem to be convinced that they have the right to steer people to the 'left way' of looking at everything. But I'll see your laughable facts, and raise you with the truth.
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[SIZE="3"]"For the first time since 2013, American coal production — including metallurgical coal that is used for steel production — actually grew. The numbers marked a sharp turning point for an industry that continued to shrink under the weight of environmental regulations enacted under the Obama administration.
Coal exports increased by 61 percent in 2017 — the first year of Trump’s presidency. Much of this increase is thanks to Asia, where U.S. exports more than doubled in 2017. India, South Korea and Japan were three of the top five purchasers of American steam coal exports that year, according to the Energy Information Administration. However, Europe continues to be the country’s largest buyer of American coal. (RELATED: A Plan To Save Struggling Coal Plants Is Circulating Around The White House)
The increased exports are bringing relief to coal plants operating in the U.S., where (UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION) federal and state policies have sought to minimize use of the fossil fuel. The White House has actively sought to unshackle the coal industry from regulations mandated by the previous administration. Trump fulfilled a major campaign promise when he announced the U.S. withdrawal from the Paris Agreement in June 2017. Several months later, then-Environmental Protection Agency administrator Scott Pruitt signed a proposed rule to repeal the Clean Power Plan, an Obama-era regulation that limited the amount of greenhouse gases power plants could emit.
In what would be more good news for coal workers, the White House is considering a sweeping plan to save coal and nuclear plants from early closures. If executed, the Trump administration would use emergency authority to mandate electricity providers purchase energy from at-risk plants for two years."[/SIZE]
http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/02/coal-e...ald-trump/
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08-23-2018, 06:44 PM
Laughable facts? Take that up with the Kentucky Energy & Environment Cabinet which posted the numbers. The Herald Leader only reported what they published.
Coal Report
The hypocrisy of you calling out the Herald Leader for being liberal and then posting a link to the Daily Caller is epic by the way.
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The hypocrisy of you calling out the Herald Leader for being liberal and then posting a link to the Daily Caller is epic by the way.
08-23-2018, 08:58 PM
Motley Wrote:Laughable facts? Take that up with the Kentucky Energy & Environment Cabinet which posted the numbers. The Herald Leader only reported what they published.
Coal Report
The hypocrisy of you calling out the Herald Leader for being liberal and then posting a link to the Daily Caller is epic by the way.
No now you might could sell that baloney to some people, but I know better. To start with the Leader is liberal. Which means in any story they write, they have to press tiny shreds of truth into the entirely predictable and predetermined propagandist mold. The idea of which is always to make Republicans look bad, and to always make liberal Democrats look good. To do that my friend means taking the truth and standing it on it's head. The ONLY people who buy into that sort of thing are the ones who would gladly see this nation go down, as long as it means that Trump and the Republicans go with it. That being liberals. To your point, how does tallying up the aftermath left by the Obama Administration's war on coal, and Steve Beshear's allegiance to the mindless abandonment of this world's only fossil energy sources disprove what I said? Kentucky's resurgence will take longer because of the all-in stupidity of the previous administration. But the overall point here is this, Dems lie like a rug on any topic they happen to address. There are liars within the Republican ranks too, but it's the ratio that matters in all of this. Democrat liars = 100%. Republican liars = 20%, maybe less. And I believe a reasonable case could be made saying in many cases Republicans are just terminally goofy, and not necessarily liars. In any case, I will take what Tucker Carlson (The Daily Caller) has to say on any matter, (although I think he is waaay too nice the way he goes about it), any day of the week, over any Dem on the planet.
So you go ahead and tell yourself that both sides are equally guilty of the lies. The rest of us prefer a far more objective approach in carefully weighing the facts as they may apply. In this case the facts are that the coal industry is being resuscitated. And that being due solely to the efforts of DJT. Obama who you refuse to criticize, along with his EPA, was very nearly successful in strangling the life out of the coal industry. And BTW, how many times do I need to post his stated manifesto in which he vowed to kill the coal industry?:
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“If somebody wants to build a coal-fired power plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them,” Obama said, responding to a question about his cap-and-trade plan. He later added, “Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” [/SIZE]
Given that preemptive shot across the bow, and the succeeding 8 years of misery that the varmit from Kenya visited upon this nation's energy industry and the coal industry in particular, the only conclusion any rational person could come to is as follows. Obama was so 'taken' by the ridiculous notions of global warming, he was willing to destroy the energy sector in a vain effort to heal the planet from a ailment from which she does not suffer. Believe what you want, the plan is working, the coal industry is making a come back, and Republicans will continue to win.
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08-24-2018, 06:39 PM
^ What does Obama have to do with any of this discussion right now? You become severely unhinged and personal in any discussion which shows how irrational you are. The fact that you had to add in "varmit from Kenya" pretty much negates any of your attempts at rationality or civility.
You originally posted that the coal resurgence was clear and obvious just by "looking around".
I haven't personally seen that, and I posted the actual report in my last link from the Kentucky Energy & Environment (not the Herald Leader) that showed that it was not a clear "resurgence" like you had said. Yet you go on an unrelated, manic rant about the Herald Leader's liberal bias again. (Even though my 2nd link wasn't to them)
Trump is going on two years as President now. At some point in your life you'll no longer be able to blame a former President for the problems you have with society or the economy.
You originally posted that the coal resurgence was clear and obvious just by "looking around".
I haven't personally seen that, and I posted the actual report in my last link from the Kentucky Energy & Environment (not the Herald Leader) that showed that it was not a clear "resurgence" like you had said. Yet you go on an unrelated, manic rant about the Herald Leader's liberal bias again. (Even though my 2nd link wasn't to them)
Trump is going on two years as President now. At some point in your life you'll no longer be able to blame a former President for the problems you have with society or the economy.
08-24-2018, 06:57 PM
Motley Wrote:^ What does Obama have to do with any of this discussion right now? You become severely unhinged and personal in any discussion which shows how irrational you are. The fact that you had to add in "varmit from Kenya" pretty much negates any of your attempts at rationality or civility.
You originally posted that the coal resurgence was clear and obvious just by "looking around".
I haven't personally seen that, and I posted the actual report in my last link from the Kentucky Energy & Environment (not the Herald Leader) that showed that it was not a clear "resurgence" like you had said. Yet you go on an unrelated, manic rant about the Herald Leader's liberal bias again. (Even though my 2nd link wasn't to them)
Trump is going on two years as President now. At some point in your life you'll no longer be able to blame a former President for the problems you have with society or the economy.
Why not? Was there a war on coal or not? Your hero Obama blamed Bush for everything until the day he flew out of DC. (A good day BTW) You didn't have a problem with that now did you?
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08-24-2018, 07:16 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:Why not? Was there a war on coal or not? Your hero Obama blamed Bush for everything until the day he flew out of DC. (A good day BTW) You didn't have a problem with that now did you?
Was there a war on coal? What does that have to do with any of my posts? You said it was a clear resurgence right now. I said it wasn't and backed it up with actual statistics.
My hero? Nice try. Where did I say that or say I didn't have a problem with it? More importantly. How much does Obama and Hillary pay for the rent inside your head? You cannot under any circumstances attempt a logical debate on here without mentioning them.
Guessing these deflection attempts are just you taking a page out of your hero Trump's book eh?
08-24-2018, 09:55 PM
Motley Wrote:Was there a war on coal? What does that have to do with any of my posts? You said it was a clear resurgence right now. I said it wasn't and backed it up with actual statistics.
My hero? Nice try. Where did I say that or say I didn't have a problem with it? More importantly. How much does Obama and Hillary pay for the rent inside your head? You cannot under any circumstances attempt a logical debate on here without mentioning them.
Guessing these deflection attempts are just you taking a page out of your hero Trump's book eh?
Yes that's right you said the resurgence of the coal industry wasn't backed up by the facts. I said you're wrong and I stand by that. Perhaps this would be a good time to inform you that the coal industry operates in many places other than Kentucky. Thus in the states where the coal industry wasn't totally abandoned like it was in Kentucky, the resurgence is real. Though in no way does that mean I accept the notion that no progress has been made in Kentucky. I know for sure the good folks over in West Virginia believe the resurgence is real.
And yes you're darn right I mention Obama and Hillary quite often, though no where near as much as you allege. How can one debate politics without mentioning the forces which shaped politics as they presently exist? That would be like going to war and denying that the bullets the enemy sends whizzing by your head are actually real. I always said self delusion was the liberal's greatest gift.
And given the successes Mr Trump has enjoyed, you can call him MY hero all you want. But lets be clear. I posted the facts which created our situation today and as usual, you dodged them, EH?
To understand why the coal industry is on it's ear one has to at least be honest enough with himself to admit what brought it there. That being Obama's war on coal. Therefore the points of my reference have EVERYTHING to do with ALL your posts. But this thread is supposed to be a discussion regarding the Dem's reckless attempts to further diminish this country in their attempts to abolish ICE. It is my opinion that Dems will lose again this November.
Last point. The only guy on here of my acquaintance that had an abiding propensity to jump on one obscure aside in order to derail the whole thread and try to shrink it down to the head of a pin was Sombrero. He felt more comfortable debating minutia, and I recognize your attempt. I asked vector, who says he's in the coal industry, how he could deny the progress made in the last two years. And for a time I entertained YOUR deflections, which was of course, an obvious waste of time. Anybody with a glimmer knows the coal resurgence is real.
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09-08-2018, 12:23 AM
According to today's news reports, 104 thousand new coal mining jobs have been added since the election of 2016. Get you some of this, Gitback Coach. 
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09-08-2018, 10:36 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:According to today's news reports, 104 thousand new coal mining jobs have been added since the election of 2016. Get you some of this, Gitback Coach.
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES1021210001
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09-08-2018, 11:04 PM
Still trying to cut off your nose to spite your face I see. Only vector knows the truth. Fox Business, your union brothers in West Virginia and Pennsylvania, all idiots huh? :dudecomeon:
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09-09-2018, 12:08 AM
09-09-2018, 01:26 AM
09-09-2018, 02:46 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:According to today's news reports, 104 thousand new coal mining jobs have been added since the election of 2016. Get you some of this, Gitback Coach.Donald Trump has done a great job easing the regulatory stranglehold that Obama's agencies had on the coal industry during Obama's War on Coal and the business climate is 100 percent better for coal than when Obama left office, but that 104,000 number is totally bogus. The number of coal miners in this country is around half that number, so there is no way that Trump has created anywhere near that number of new coal mining jobs.
I drove down the Big Sandy this morning on my way back home and the first three coal docks that I saw each had a "For Lease" sign out front and I did not see a single coal truck on U.S. 23. Obama did long term damage to the coal industry in eastern Kentucky and, IMO, it will never recover. The future of the coal industry lies mostly in the western states. There will always be some demand for the high quality coal of central Appalachia, but coal's best days are behind it and Obama made sure of that.
09-09-2018, 05:59 AM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:Donald Trump has done a great job easing the regulatory stranglehold that Obama's agencies had on the coal industry during Obama's War on Coal and the business climate is 100 percent better for coal than when Obama left office, but that 104,000 number is totally bogus. The number of coal miners in this country is around half that number, so there is no way that Trump has created anywhere near that number of new coal mining jobs.
I drove down the Big Sandy this morning on my way back home and the first three coal docks that I saw each had a "For Lease" sign out front and I did not see a single coal truck on U.S. 23. Obama did long term damage to the coal industry in eastern Kentucky and, IMO, it will never recover. The future of the coal industry lies mostly in the western states. There will always be some demand for the high quality coal of central Appalachia, but coal's best days are behind it and Obama made sure of that.
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"Mining employment increased by 6,000 in August, with the industry adding 104,000 jobs since October 2016."
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/405510...obs-report
^^The news reports I heard all said this article was legit.
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09-09-2018, 07:11 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:According to today's news reports, 104 thousand new coal mining jobs have been added since the election of 2016. Get you some of this, Gitback Coach.
TheRealThing Wrote:The 104,000 number that you gave for new coal mining jobs is bogus. Trump has a remarkable economic record since taking office, but he has not added twice as many new coal mining jobs as the current total number of coal mining jobs. Think about it - the 104,000 number that you cited just makes no sense.
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"Mining employment increased by 6,000 in August, with the industry adding 104,000 jobs since October 2016."
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/405510...obs-report
^^The news reports I heard all said this article was legit.
Coal mining is a subcategory of mining, which is itself a subcategory of the mining and logging category. You do not need to rely on any reports besides the numbers reported by Trump's own BLS - and those numbers do not even remotely approach the total of 104,000 new coal mining jobs that you cited.
09-09-2018, 04:31 PM
Hoot Gibson Wrote:The 104,000 number that you gave for new coal mining jobs is bogus. Trump has a remarkable economic record since taking office, but he has not added twice as many new coal mining jobs as the current total number of coal mining jobs. Think about it - the 104,000 number that you cited just makes no sense.
Coal mining is a subcategory of mining, which is itself a subcategory of the mining and logging category. You do not need to rely on any reports besides the numbers reported by Trump's own BLS - and those numbers do not even remotely approach the total of 104,000 new coal mining jobs that you cited.
According to SourceWatch; "There are approximately 174,000 blue-collar, full-time, permanent jobs related to coal in the U.S.:"
I don't know how the administration or FOX broke their numbers down, it's hard to say. I do know 'The Hill' is normally a pretty safe bet as are the reporting avenues David Asman cites. In any event I'm quite certain as you mention, that MR Trump's energy policies have things on the upswing. And that includes mining jobs.
Now, I realize Kentucky's coal tipples stand as sad and abandoned reminders of the once thriving coal industry that Obama has managed to decimate. I got that. I also know that Democrats have lied to the people about the relationship of America's need for energy versus readily available fossil fuels, and the myth of reliable and renewable clean energy. I also realize the taxpayers in this land were forced to fund the dismantling of our then viable national coal industry with their tax dollars. The whole coal blitzkrieg was tantamount to saving one's whole life for a new corvette. Only to drive it off the lot and immediately shove it off a high wall. Stupid don't quite cut it. The mechanization, supply lines, transportation lanes and all the rest which comprised the coal industry was bought and paid for and in place. The coal industry was running, the money was spent, the power stations built and the cheap electricity was being produced. Not to mention all the myriad of associated careers that were sacrifice on the altar of stupidity.
Thus I have posted on the matter with some frequency, and it doesn't take an expert in the energy field to understand at present there is no substitute for fossil fuels, coal in this case. And I question the rationale with which we justify using so much natural gas in the place of coal. So when I hear liberally indoctrinated blue collar types defend the very Democrat policies which have destroyed their way of life, I just shake my head in disbelief. At any rate, I am satisfied things are improving and that was my original thought a number of posts back.
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09-09-2018, 04:59 PM
Well Donald's own DOL says there have been around 2400 coal mining jobs added since jan 2017
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES1021210001
But we know how Donald and his followers can twist the truth
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https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES1021210001
But we know how Donald and his followers can twist the truth
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09-09-2018, 05:13 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:According to SourceWatch; "There are approximately 174,000 blue-collar, full-time, permanent jobs related to coal in the U.S.:"The number is bogus. Coal mining jobs are not the same as coal-related jobs. Even if one accepts that there are 174,000 "blue-collar, full-time, permanent jobs related to coal in the U.S.," 104,000 of those jobs have not been created since Trump took office. No way, no how. This is the kind of exaggerated claim that the Obama administration made every time he or one of his minions stepped in front of a microphone.
I don't know how the administration or FOX broke their numbers down, it's hard to say. I do know 'The Hill' is normally a pretty safe bet as are the reporting avenues David Asman cites. In any event I'm quite certain as you mention, that MR Trump's energy policies have things on the upswing. And that includes mining jobs.
Now, I realize Kentucky's coal tipples stand as sad and abandoned reminders of the once thriving coal industry that Obama has managed to decimate. I got that. I also know that Democrats have lied to the people about the relationship of America's need for energy versus readily available fossil fuels, and the myth of reliable and renewable clean energy. I also realize the taxpayers in this land were forced to fund the dismantling of our then viable national coal industry with their tax dollars. The whole coal blitzkrieg was tantamount to saving one's whole life for a new corvette. Only to drive it off the lot and immediately shove it off a high wall. Stupid don't quite cut it. The mechanization, supply lines, transportation lanes and all the rest which comprised the coal industry was bought and paid for and in place. The coal industry was running, the money was spent, the power stations built and the cheap electricity was being produced. Not to mention all the myriad of associated careers that were sacrifice on the altar of stupidity.
Thus I have posted on the matter with some frequency, and it doesn't take an expert in the energy field to understand at present there is no substitute for fossil fuels, coal in this case. And I question the rationale with which we justify using so much natural gas in the place of coal. So when I hear liberally indoctrinated blue collar types defend the very Democrat policies which have destroyed their way of life, I just shake my head in disbelief. At any rate, I am satisfied things are improving and that was my original thought a number of posts back.
If 5,000 coal mining jobs had been created since Trump took office, it would be an amazing accomplishment. Claiming that twice as many coal mining jobs have been created as there are coal mining jobs is just silly talk. From what I understand, Trump's EPA Secretary mispoke and confused coal mining jobs with overall mining jobs and/or mining/logging jobs and it has been repeated and re-repeated as fact by Trump's most zealous supporters who are too busy to fact check news that sounds too good to be true because it is too good to be true.
Trump cut taxes and the regulatory burden on companies doing business in this country and the economy has responded as anybody but a flaming liberal would expect it to respond.
Obama had an outstanding fictitous economic record, but Trump and the Republicans should be running on real achievements.
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