[JescoWhite]

Boyle without Chuck = Bell without Dudley

(-)Jewell (+)Haddix = Same results

[Big Daddy Bull]

I would have agreed with you until Boyle Co and Central chose to move to 4A. Haddix may win a title soon but it won't be at Corbin while with those teams and Johnson Central are around.

Now I know you Coach at CMS and so you're a little biased (I get it) but you wouldn't find a coaching staff outside of your football program that would agree with you that the Corbin staff is better than the Boyle Co staff. If you knew the kind of preparation and work that was put in by our staff you'd be amazed.

Brother you would be amazed what work and preparation other coaches staff put in also, Coach Smith and one of his assistants went to this certain HS in Kentucky and got some preparation ideas from them. FoSho you are a very knowledgeable football guy- but Dude I'm telling you there are coaching staffs in Kentucky that work just as hard or harder than Boyle's staffs, you have to broaden your Horizons- love talking football with you though

[Jack Lambert]

Do you people realize that 5 or 6 of the assistant coaches at Boyle have been successful head coaches at other schools, I wouldn’t trade anyone of the coaches on Boyle’s Staff for Corbin’s whole staff, and I really don’t see what all the fuss is about Haddix as a head coach he’s 71-31 with 3 District titles in his career I mean Boyle’s defensive coordinator has 8 state championship rings, until Haddix and his staff start winning state titles I don’t see anything to crow about and let’s not forget how weak that district is that Corbin won those district titles in.

[FoSho]

Brother you would be amazed what work and preparation other coaches staff put in also, Coach Smith and one of his assistants went to this certain HS in Kentucky and got some preparation ideas from them. FoSho you are a very knowledgeable football guy- but Dude I'm telling you there are coaching staffs in Kentucky that work just as hard or harder than Boyle's staffs, you have to broaden your Horizons- love talking football with you though

Lots has been said on here. All I'll say is that the proof is in the pudding. Coach Smith has built one of the best programs in the state over his time here. You'd be shocked to know how much money the BCQBC has raised since the early 90's and the product on the field is unreal. Nobody outworks our staff and no staff outside a few can compare with game prep or in-game changes/strategy.

This is not meant to be a slam on any particular school just an observation about a program that's run like a college program in every aspect.

[Frank Martin]

Lots has been said on here. All I'll say is that the proof is in the pudding. Coach Smith has built one of the best programs in the state over his time here. You'd be shocked to know how much money the BCQBC has raised since the early 90's and the product on the field is unreal. Nobody outworks our staff and no staff outside a few can compare with game prep or in-game changes/strategy.

This is not meant to be a slam on any particular school just an observation about a program that's run like a college program in every aspect.

Can't argue with success. Honestly, in my opinion Boyle's success has much more to do with the Coach's and coaching than it does the talent of the players. Don't get me wrong, they have good players l, but outside of a few I just don't see them as loaded with elite talent.

[FoSho]

Can't argue with success. Honestly, in my opinion Boyle's success has much more to do with the Coach's and coaching than it does the talent of the players. Don't get me wrong, they have good players l, but outside of a few I just don't see them as loaded with elite talent.

Typically I'd say you are spot on. In the early days Chuck built his championship teams on outworking everyone else with a great athlete here and there.

Last year and in the coming 4-6 years it will be because of kids that are more skilled. The 2020 class is loaded with talent...probably 3-5 D1 kids and a few others that will play college at some level. Another great class is 2022.

Chuck is having a blast coaching this great young talent that loves the game as much as him. They are unlimited on offense and capable of running really anything they want. Fun times!

[DarthVader]

Do you people realize that 5 or 6 of the assistant coaches at Boyle have been successful head coaches at other schools, I wouldn’t trade anyone of the coaches on Boyle’s Staff for Corbin’s whole staff, and I really don’t see what all the fuss is about Haddix as a head coach he’s 71-31 with 3 District titles in his career I mean Boyle’s defensive coordinator has 8 state championship rings, until Haddix and his staff start winning state titles I don’t see anything to crow about and let’s not forget how weak that district is that Corbin won those district titles in.

You just hammered the nail squarely on the head! Haddix is a pretty good coach but not what a lot of the folks in red make him out to be in terms of something significant or that much better than everyone around the area. He's assembled a great staff at a tradtition rich school. Let's not forget he was barely above .500 in four seasons at PCC, he wasn't doing anymore there than a lot of coaches are doing at those types of places and would have went down with the ship had he not made the jump to Corbin when he did because of the swings in talent at a place like PCC. Not a knock on him, just the reality of that situation, it happens, John Hines didn't forget how to coach just because he won 4 games this year.

There is LOTS of great football coaches in this area of the state. John Hines, Dudley, French, Dixon, Herron, Lucas, Tom Larkey, Chuck Smith, Jon Clark, Shawn Thompson, and I am sure I'm leaving some out, but these guys have all done just as much or more in some cases than the Corbin coaches and some have done it with much less resources at schools with a whole lot less tradition. Some of my posts come off as critical of Corbin or Haddix or this or that but in reality it just gets old hearing about how great something is when they haven't done anything more than several coaches have within an hours drive of their own school. Haddix will win a state title if he stays at Corbin, it will come sooner or later, but at Corbin that's what's expected regardless of the coach. And this is not to say Corbin don't have good coaches, because they do, but that whole school system shines in everything they do and that's more of a credit to the community there than anything else. Boyle County is the same way in terms of community.

[DarthVader]

Typically I'd say you are spot on. In the early days Chuck built his championship teams on outworking everyone else with a great athlete here and there.

Last year and in the coming 4-6 years it will be because of kids that are more skilled. The 2020 class is loaded with talent...probably 3-5 D1 kids and a few others that will play college at some level. Another great class is 2022.

Chuck is having a blast coaching this great young talent that loves the game as much as him. They are unlimited on offense and capable of running really anything they want. Fun times!

Having the Lefew brothers, Jeff Duggins, Jacob Tamme, Seth Tamme, Brandon Smith, etc surely didn't hurt! That talent alone beats a large percentage of the teams on the state. There may not be another public school in the state that had the run of talent Boyle had during those championship years. And they were very well coached! Deadly combination.

[Single Wing 77]

I would have agreed with you until Boyle Co and Central chose to move to 4A. Haddix may win a title soon but it won't be at Corbin while with those teams and Johnson Central are around.

Now I know you Coach at CMS and so you're a little biased (I get it) but you wouldn't find a coaching staff outside of your football program that would agree with you that the Corbin staff is better than the Boyle Co staff. If you knew the kind of preparation and work that was put in by our staff you'd be amazed.

Buddy, I don’t coach anywhere. I’m just a guy who loves my town, loves to watch sports, and likes to talk a little trash on here. 90% of what I post is in response to what someone else says first. Hatz made a statement about our staff, so I backed our staff. I’ll do it till the day I die. Wouldn’t trade one of our coaches for any coach in the state.

[Hatz]

Buddy, I don’t coach anywhere. I’m just a guy who loves my town, loves to watch sports, and likes to talk a little trash on here. 90% of what I post is in response to what someone else says first. Hatz made a statement about our staff, so I backed our staff. I’ll do it till the day I die. Wouldn’t trade one of our coaches for any coach in the state.

My Bach handed slap was because of a previous statement on another thread talking about how no one had a better staff than Corbin. Can’t recall who stated it but I thought the statement was I’ll founded or supported. Kind of like how you’ve never laid out a case for the Corbin staff based on their accomplishments.

[BCHSrebs]

Buddy, I don’t coach anywhere. I’m just a guy who loves my town, loves to watch sports, and likes to talk a little trash on here. 90% of what I post is in response to what someone else says first. Hatz made a statement about our staff, so I backed our staff. I’ll do it till the day I die. Wouldn’t trade one of our coaches for any coach in the state.

I don't question staff because all of them put in so much time. Not only to win but build in to our kids. I don't want that schedule or that job. All I can say is that I am VERY thankful for the coaches my son has. They push him, drive him and teach him not only football but life. They challenge him to be a better him. I can only speak for our coaching staff and what I know, but
I know m son not only LOVES the game of football but prob listens to his coaches on life lessons more than dad. Pretty sure I'm happy about that.

[FoSho]

Buddy, I don’t coach anywhere. I’m just a guy who loves my town, loves to watch sports, and likes to talk a little trash on here. 90% of what I post is in response to what someone else says first. Hatz made a statement about our staff, so I backed our staff. I’ll do it till the day I die. Wouldn’t trade one of our coaches for any coach in the state.

I can respect that last sentence.

[Single Wing 77]

My Bach handed slap was because of a previous statement on another thread talking about how no one had a better staff than Corbin. Can’t recall who stated it but I thought the statement was I’ll founded or supported. Kind of like how you’ve never laid out a case for the Corbin staff based on their accomplishments.

I don’t see how someone saying that they thought Corbin had a great staff was a direct attack on Boyle county. Had you’re original statement said Boyle has the best staff in the state then I wouldn’t have replied to it. You directly attacked Corbin though, I’m gonna reply if you do that. You don’t have to agree with me, but I’m gonna speak my mind about it.

I will lay out my case if you’d like. I feel like both Boyle county and Corbin have hall of fame caliber coaching staffs/head coaches. The reason if rather have ours is that Chuck Smith is 60 and Justin Haddix is 35ish. I think Haddix will stay here for a very long time. So while in 2017 it was may have been better to have Chuck Smith based on the championship game. I think the next 25+ years will swing Corbin’s way because Smith will retire sooner rather than later. I’d say another decade is the limit for smith’s career. I do think Haddix will get him a few times before he retires too. That’s in no way saying that smith has lost a step or anything like that. I think he is still at the top of his game, which is at the top of the state, but time waits for nobody.

[Single Wing 77]

I can respect that last sentence.

Finally, a little common ground. Who knows, maybe we could get along one day.

[BCHSrebs]

I don’t see how someone saying that they thought Corbin had a great staff was a direct attack on Boyle county. Had you’re original statement said Boyle has the best staff in the state then I wouldn’t have replied to it. You directly attacked Corbin though, I’m gonna reply if you do that. You don’t have to agree with me, but I’m gonna speak my mind about it.

I will lay out my case if you’d like. I feel like both Boyle county and Corbin have hall of fame caliber coaching staffs/head coaches. The reason if rather have ours is that Chuck Smith is 60 and Justin Haddix is 35ish. I think Haddix will stay here for a very long time. So while in 2017 it was may have been better to have Chuck Smith based on the championship game. I think the next 25+ years will swing Corbin’s way because Smith will retire sooner rather than later. I’d say another decade is the limit for smith’s career. I do think Haddix will get him a few times before he retires too. That’s in no way saying that smith has lost a step or anything like that. I think he is still at the top of his game, which is at the top of the state, but time waits for nobody.

Better to have him in 2018, 2019 and 2020. Probably even after that if he keeps coaching. Hounds had some incredibly gifted kids and what I loved most is their fight all game and NEVER gave up. Kids were refuse to lose mentality and loved it! MUCH respect for Corbin, hung out with Corbin fans pre game and had a great time!! That being said, Chuck Smith is just on a different level but has been doing it for a very long time. Coach Haddix has done a phenomenal job!! He's young and given Corbin hope. That being said please don't pretend your next 25 years will swing your way. The that is a very long tine, and I mean no disrespect by saying this but an absolutely ridiculous comment.

[pjdoug]

I don't question staff because all of them put in so much time. Not only to win but build in to our kids. I don't want that schedule or that job. All I can say is that I am VERY thankful for the coaches my son has. They push him, drive him and teach him not only football but life. They challenge him to be a better him. I can only speak for our coaching staff and what I know, but
I know m son not only LOVES the game of football but prob listens to his coaches on life lessons more than dad. Pretty sure I'm happy about that.

it was obvious who had the best staff to anybody that watched the last game between Boyle County and Corbin

[BCHSrebs]

I don’t see how someone saying that they thought Corbin had a great staff was a direct attack on Boyle county. Had you’re original statement said Boyle has the best staff in the state then I wouldn’t have replied to it. You directly attacked Corbin though, I’m gonna reply if you do that. You don’t have to agree with me, but I’m gonna speak my mind about it.

I will lay out my case if you’d like. I feel like both Boyle county and Corbin have hall of fame caliber coaching staffs/head coaches. The reason if rather have ours is that Chuck Smith is 60 and Justin Haddix is 35ish. I think Haddix will stay here for a very long time. So while in 2017 it was may have been better to have Chuck Smith based on the championship game. I think the next 25+ years will swing Corbin’s way because Smith will retire sooner rather than later. I’d say another decade is the limit for smith’s career. I do think Haddix will get him a few times before he retires too. That’s in no way saying that smith has lost a step or anything like that. I think he is still at the top of his game, which is at the top of the state, but time waits for nobody.

Better to have him in 2018, 2019 and 2020. Probably even after that if he keeps coaching. Hounds had some incredibly gifted kids and what I loved most is their fight all game and NEVER gave up. Kids were refuse to lose mentality and loved it! MUCH respect for Corbin, hung out with Corbin fans pre game and had a great time!! That being said, Chuck Smith is just on a different level but has been doing it for a very long time. Coach Haddix has done a phenomenal job!! He's young and given Corbin hope. That being said please don't pretend your next 25 years will swing your way. Thats a very long tine, and I mean no disrespect by saying this but an absolutely ridiculous comment. Again no disrespect I promise. You can ask hound05 who I hung out with before state game and had a blast with them.

[Big Daddy Bull]

I actually respect what Boyle has done 10x more than Trinity, they have very few kids to pull from, where Trinity can pull from the biggest city in the state and southern Indiana. I guess my problem is people saying best staff in state, run like college, best of this best of that well so do some other schools in the state- There are a couple of former Head Coaches on Boyles staff and when they were Head Coaches, I do not think they did much, could be wrong but I do not think I am- So my credit goes to Smith and French and the talent they have had. I'm done- This is about Boyle 2018, somehow thread got side tracked

[pjdoug]

I actually respect what Boyle has done 10x more than Trinity, they have very few kids to pull from, where Trinity can pull from the biggest city in the state and southern Indiana. I guess my problem is people saying best staff in state, run like college, best of this best of that well so do some other schools in the state- There are a couple of former Head Coaches on Boyles staff and when they were Head Coaches, I do not think they did much, could be wrong but I do not think I am- So my credit goes to Smith and French and the talent they have had. I'm done- This is about Boyle 2018, somehow thread got side tracked

Smith is the best.

[FoSho]

You just hammered the nail squarely on the head! Haddix is a pretty good coach but not what a lot of the folks in red make him out to be in terms of something significant or that much better than everyone around the area. He's assembled a great staff at a tradtition rich school. Let's not forget he was barely above .500 in four seasons at PCC, he wasn't doing anymore there than a lot of coaches are doing at those types of places and would have went down with the ship had he not made the jump to Corbin when he did because of the swings in talent at a place like PCC. Not a knock on him, just the reality of that situation, it happens, John Hines didn't forget how to coach just because he won 4 games this year.

There is LOTS of great football coaches in this area of the state. John Hines, Dudley, French, Dixon, Herron, Lucas, Tom Larkey, Chuck Smith, Jon Clark, Shawn Thompson, and I am sure I'm leaving some out, but these guys have all done just as much or more in some cases than the Corbin coaches and some have done it with much less resources at schools with a whole lot less tradition. Some of my posts come off as critical of Corbin or Haddix or this or that but in reality it just gets old hearing about how great something is when they haven't done anything more than several coaches have within an hours drive of their own school. Haddix will win a state title if he stays at Corbin, it will come sooner or later, but at Corbin that's what's expected regardless of the coach. And this is not to say Corbin don't have good coaches, because they do, but that whole school system shines in everything they do and that's more of a credit to the community there than anything else. Boyle County is the same way in terms of community.

Jon Clark at Mad South is VERY underrated....GREAT guy and a heck of a coach!

[FoSho]

I actually respect what Boyle has done 10x more than Trinity, they have very few kids to pull from, where Trinity can pull from the biggest city in the state and southern Indiana. I guess my problem is people saying best staff in state, run like college, best of this best of that well so do some other schools in the state- There are a couple of former Head Coaches on Boyles staff and when they were Head Coaches, I do not think they did much, could be wrong but I do not think I am- So my credit goes to Smith and French and the talent they have had. I'm done- This is about Boyle 2018, somehow thread got side tracked

There may be a few programs in the state that are run at the level as Boyle, but I doubt it. Like I said, the level of the staff with the QB Club fundraising and add in the talent, facilities and work ethic of the kids........you'd be hard pressed to find a better program in our state.

When Chuck retires in a couple years (MAX) his successor will be handed the keys to a damn Cadillac.

Who knows, maybe Haddix will end up here?!?! 😜

[Hatz]

I actually respect what Boyle has done 10x more than Trinity, they have very few kids to pull from, where Trinity can pull from the biggest city in the state and southern Indiana. I guess my problem is people saying best staff in state, run like college, best of this best of that well so do some other schools in the state- There are a couple of former Head Coaches on Boyles staff and when they were Head Coaches, I do not think they did much, could be wrong but I do not think I am- So my credit goes to Smith and French and the talent they have had. I'm done- This is about Boyle 2018, somehow thread got side tracked

I think Pardue won a playoff game or two (even vs Boyle) when he was at Mercer.

Hester I think had some Garrard County success.

Leffew was not in the best position to succeed at Lincoln.

[Hatz]

I don’t see how someone saying that they thought Corbin had a great staff was a direct attack on Boyle county. Had you’re original statement said Boyle has the best staff in the state then I wouldn’t have replied to it. You directly attacked Corbin though, I’m gonna reply if you do that. You don’t have to agree with me, but I’m gonna speak my mind about it.

I will lay out my case if you’d like. I feel like both Boyle county and Corbin have hall of fame caliber coaching staffs/head coaches. The reason if rather have ours is that Chuck Smith is 60 and Justin Haddix is 35ish. I think Haddix will stay here for a very long time. So while in 2017 it was may have been better to have Chuck Smith based on the championship game. I think the next 25+ years will swing Corbin’s way because Smith will retire sooner rather than later. I’d say another decade is the limit for smith’s career. I do think Haddix will get him a few times before he retires too. That’s in no way saying that smith has lost a step or anything like that. I think he is still at the top of his game, which is at the top of the state, but time waits for nobody.

I think Haddix is doing a great job at Corbin. But what makes you think he will stay for a very long time?

College opportunities get the best of HS coaches (just ask Smith who lived his dream by coaching the LB's at UK after his first run at Boyle). Corbin doesn't have along history of keeping coaches do they? For all their success how long did Powers and/or Adams stay?

[HADDIXHOUNDS]

Coach Smith and Boyle Co Staff as a whole are some of, if not the BEST in the State. Put them with Good players (Most years really good) and you win Championships.
To be the man you have to beat the man!

[Single Wing 77]

I think Haddix is doing a great job at Corbin. But what makes you think he will stay for a very long time?

College opportunities get the best of HS coaches (just ask Smith who lived his dream by coaching the LB's at UK after his first run at Boyle). Corbin doesn't have along history of keeping coaches do they? For all their success how long did Powers and/or Adams stay?

I’m not sure how long Powers was at Corbin. I think Adams was at Corbin as a head coach from the early 80’s till the mid 90’s and longer as an assistant. Jewell was the head coach at Corbin for over 15 years. The only one that had a short run was Mike Whitaker, and there were some extenuating circumstances there.

As far as chuck smith at UK goes, I always thought he should’ve gotten a chance to be the DC. The linebackers were always the strength of the defense when he was there. He had three or four guys who are still playing in the nfl.

[E's Army]

Boyle has a great bunch of athletes. They just destroyed their region in track and are favorites to win state. Corbin is in their region. Boyle is loaded with athletes right now

[Rebel55]

I think Pardue won a playoff game or two (even vs Boyle) when he was at Mercer.

Hester I think had some Garrard County success.

Leffew was not in the best position to succeed at Lincoln.

You can also add Settles as he took his 13-1 Bullit East team to the 2005 State Finals, with a Semi Final win over Boyle.

2002 his Charger team finished with a 12-1 record only to lose to Smith's Boyle team in the playoffs.

[pjdoug]

There may be a few programs in the state that are run at the level as Boyle, but I doubt it. Like I said, the level of the staff with the QB Club fundraising and add in the talent, facilities and work ethic of the kids........you'd be hard pressed to find a better program in our state.

When Chuck retires in a couple years (MAX) his successor will be handed the keys to a damn Cadillac.

Who knows, maybe Haddix will end up here?!?! 😜

send Chuck to Whitley County.

[Single Wing 77]

send Chuck to Whitley County.

Not even chuck could turn Whitley around. Too many people in power care more about their kids playing time than they care about winning.

[pjdoug]

Not even chuck could turn Whitley around. Too many people in power care more about their kids playing time than they care about winning.

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