[jetpilot]

As many lies on his show as any on MSNBC or CNN. And his snarky additude is pathetic. Plus he is every bit as creepy as that Rachael Maddow dude. Tucker is the only person on Fox worth watching IMO. Shepard's face has "SMACK ME" written all over it.:flush:

[TheRealThing]

As many lies on his show as any on MSNBC or CNN. And his snarky additude is pathetic. Plus he is every bit as creepy as that Rachael Maddow dude. Tucker is the only person on Fox worth watching IMO. Shepard's face has "SMACK ME" written all over it.:flush:

Hannity is a good guy too, who I look to be the next victim of a sexual harassment suit. Shepard is out of the closet, they couldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole unless they don't mind having to pay a hefty settlement.

[jetpilot]

Huh huh...you said "pole"...huh huh huh

[Bob Seger]

He serves no purpose what so ever if the premise of your broadcasting is supposedly based on conservative principals.

[jetpilot]

Hannity is a good guy too, who I look to be the next victim of a sexual harassment suit. Shepard is out of the closet, they couldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole unless they don't mind having to pay a hefty settlement.

Hannity's good, but I'm usually asleep by the time he comes on.
Also LOVE Lou Dobbs on FBN. He is really letting McConnell and Ryan have it these days, and rightfully so.

[TheRealThing]

Hannity's good, but I'm usually asleep by the time he comes on.
Also LOVE Lou Dobbs on FBN. He is really letting McConnell and Ryan have it these days, and rightfully so.

The Democrats are guilty of putting party before country and they freely prostitute themselves for votes. They'll get no vote of mine, ever. But I must say there are about 8 Republican Senators that I'd love to see go too with a certain reservation as that would apply to Ted Cruz. Rand Paul can't get over himself long enough to consider the wishes of his own constituency, and if a viable alternative presents himself, Paul has gotten my last vote. But Rob Portman Ohio, Dean Heller Nevada, Ron Johnson Wisconsin, Mike Lee Utah, Susan Collins Maine, Jerry Moran Kansas, Shelley Moore Capito West Virginia, and last and most surprisingly is Ted Cruz Texas (who should probably be a Justice of the Supreme Court) have all managed to put themselves ahead of party AND country if you can believe that. They just refuse to accept the fact that getting things back in order is a process and not a one step deal.

I have nada to do with the rest of these guys, but I've written Rand Paul twice so far to inform him of my feelings on the matter. I will pull the flush lever on him if I get the chance.

[TheRealThing]

As many lies on his show as any on MSNBC or CNN. And his snarky additude is pathetic. Plus he is every bit as creepy as that Rachael Maddow dude. Tucker is the only person on Fox worth watching IMO. Shepard's face has "SMACK ME" written all over it.:flush:

Rachael Maddow dude? LOL

I can't even stomach seeing that wall-eyed bozo for a second while I'm changing channels. He was big about bragging that he was a Runnin Reb from Ole Miss until somebody made him admit that he didn't actually graduate from college. At that point he had to put out a retraction every day for a couple of weeks.

[jetpilot]

The Democrats are guilty of putting party before country and they freely prostitute themselves for votes. They'll get no vote of mine, ever. But I must say there are about 8 Republican Senators that I'd love to see go too with a certain reservation as that would apply to Ted Cruz. Rand Paul can't get over himself long enough to consider the wishes of his own constituency, and if a viable alternative presents himself, Paul has gotten my last vote. But Rob Portman Ohio, Dean Heller Nevada, Ron Johnson Wisconsin, Mike Lee Utah, Susan Collins Maine, Jerry Moran Kansas, Shelley Moore Capito West Virginia, and last and most surprisingly is Ted Cruz Texas (who should probably be a Justice of the Supreme Court) have all managed to put themselves ahead of party AND country if you can believe that. They just refuse to accept the fact that getting things back in order is a process and not a one step deal.

I have nada to do with the rest of these guys, but I've written Rand Paul twice so far to inform him of my feelings on the matter. I will pull the flush lever on him if I get the chance.

I will take guys like Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Ted Cruz etc over guys like McConnell and Ryan any day.

[Hoot Gibson]

The Democrats are guilty of putting party before country and they freely prostitute themselves for votes. They'll get no vote of mine, ever. But I must say there are about 8 Republican Senators that I'd love to see go too with a certain reservation as that would apply to Ted Cruz. Rand Paul can't get over himself long enough to consider the wishes of his own constituency, and if a viable alternative presents himself, Paul has gotten my last vote. But Rob Portman Ohio, Dean Heller Nevada, Ron Johnson Wisconsin, Mike Lee Utah, Susan Collins Maine, Jerry Moran Kansas, Shelley Moore Capito West Virginia, and last and most surprisingly is Ted Cruz Texas (who should probably be a Justice of the Supreme Court) have all managed to put themselves ahead of party AND country if you can believe that. They just refuse to accept the fact that getting things back in order is a process and not a one step deal.

I have nada to do with the rest of these guys, but I've written Rand Paul twice so far to inform him of my feelings on the matter. I will pull the flush lever on him if I get the chance.

Ridiculous statement about Ted Cruz and other conservatives. They would be squarely behind Republican bills to repeal Obamacare and keep other campaign promises that helped elect RINOS posing as conservatives and Donald Trump.

I like most of what President Trump has done so far, but the real impediment to getting good bills signed into law are members of the Republican establishment who have no intention of doing anything but keeping their seats warm and safe.

[TheRealThing]

I will take guys like Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Ted Cruz etc over guys like McConnell and Ryan any day.

I qualified my statement as it pertains to Cruz. You got to remember (because the senators sure don't) Republicans face an entirely united front as presented by Dems. I would be just a bit worried if I were them, that not dealing with the people's business might just cost a few Republican seats. And I guarantee if Dems get the majority back, there will be no prisoners taken. Ryan is a RINO but the new health care legislation is stalled in the Senate.

Though I will say the thing that gets lost in all this is the disservice visited on the people and their Republican representation by Dems in the first place. You wouldn't believe how many retirees have gone back into the workforce just so they can afford health insurance. And the thousands of doctors who've been lost because the mandate forced them to close their practice. And the millions of people who have been forced to stay home rather than get the medical attention needed owing to "skyrocketing" treatment costs. It's a mess for which there is no easy out brought upon us by Democrats. Nonetheless the ball is in the Republican's court and they MUST step up.

[jetpilot]

Ridiculous statement about Ted Cruz and other conservatives. They would be squarely behind Republican bills to repeal Obamacare and keep other campaign promises that helped elect RINOS posing as conservatives and Donald Trump.

I like most of what President Trump has done so far, but the real impediment to getting good bills signed into law are members of the Republican establishment who have no intention of doing anything but keeping their seats warm and safe.

Agree 100%. I will take it a step further. I am starting to believe these guys are fine with being in the minority again. Less pressure on them to do anything and they can start voting to repeal Obamacare again. :please:

[Hoot Gibson]

Trading votes for legislative goodies is what gave us Obamacare. Now, McConnell and his "leadership" team will be attempting to buy votes for the new and improved Obamacare, which will undoubtedly be rebranded as Trumpcare in the next two national elections. Not repealing Obamacare and signing a slightly lighter version of Obamacare bill into law will be doing this country a disservice and to the voters who cast ballots for candidates who promised to repeal Obamacare if elected. Cruz and other conservatives are attempting to keep that promise. The majority of Senate Republicans were never serious about the promises that they made to repeal the law.

[Hoot Gibson]

Agree 100%. I will take it a step further. I am starting to believe these guys are fine with being in the minority again. Less pressure on them to do anything and they can start voting to repeal Obamacare again. :please:

Exactly. If I were a Democrat running in 2018, I would cite the number of bills that Republicans passed to repeal Obamacare when Obama was in the White House in every campaign speech - followed by the total number of bills to repeal Obamacare that reached Trump's desk.

Republicans will be hammered regardless of what they do, but the worst thing that they can do is to fail to repeal Obamacare. Enacting another bad healthcare bill will not be seen as a repeal.

[TheRealThing]

Ridiculous statement about Ted Cruz and other conservatives. They would be squarely behind Republican bills to repeal Obamacare and keep other campaign promises that helped elect RINOS posing as conservatives and Donald Trump.

I like most of what President Trump has done so far, but the real impediment to getting good bills signed into law are members of the Republican establishment who have no intention of doing anything but keeping their seats warm and safe.

Really? Thanks for telling me that and BTW, you seen any Republican bill to repeal yet? Cause I certainly haven't. Maybe Cruz and Lee are doing the right thing to hold up the standard, but gridlocking the entire congress from within one's own party is a bit touch and go if you ask me.

I've said consistently that RINO's are hurting the Republican Party and I know you could not have forgotten so soon my disdain for an ever more oppressive establishment. I don't know if it's ring rust or just plain stupidity, but like it or not, politics right now is a team sport and Republican's biggest opponents are themselves.

Heck, we still got half of these goofs saying all new legislation has to be revenue neutral. Ask Mark Levin if he thinks legislation should be revenue neutral. My assertion is they need some legislative movement to inspire the newbies along the right path and reintroduce the moldering establishment types to the successes of a less burdensome tax structure. And I still say there is no magic wand they can just wave over both houses to undo the financial damage done by ObamaCare. Does anybody really know how to do it? The best answer I've heard is to inspire as much growth as possible and hope for the best. And one more thing, I'm one of those being bludgeoned by the exploding costs of health insurance and the even more terrifying costs of care. Nobody will be able to afford to retire before long, and the aged really are going to start dying as the result of this madness. Because very soon a man's choices are going to be see the doctor and hit the street, or don't see the doctor so you can afford stay in your house longer and die an early death.

[Hoot Gibson]

Really? Thanks for telling me that and BTW, you seen any Republican bill to repeal yet? Cause I certainly haven't. Maybe Cruz and Lee are doing the right thing to hold up the standard, but gridlocking the entire congress from within one's own party is a bit touch and go if you ask me.

I've said consistently that RINO's are hurting the Republican Party and I know you could not have forgotten so soon my disdain for an ever more oppressive establishment. I don't know if it's ring rust or just plain stupidity, but like it or not, politics right now is a team sport and Republican's biggest opponents are themselves.

Heck, we still got half of these goofs saying all new legislation has to be revenue neutral. Ask Mark Levin if he thinks legislation should be revenue neutral. My assertion is they need some legislative movement to inspire the newbies along the right path and reintroduce the moldering establishment types to the successes of a less burdensome tax structure. And I still say there is no magic wand they can just wave over both houses to undo the financial damage done by ObamaCare. Does anybody really know how to do it? The best answer I've heard is to inspire as much growth as possible and hope for the best. And one more thing, I'm one of those being bludgeoned by the exploding costs of health insurance and the even more terrifying costs of care. Nobody will be able to afford to retire before long, and the aged really are going to start dying as the result of this madness. Because very soon a man's choices are going to be see the doctor and hit the street, or don't see the doctor so you can afford stay in your house longer and die an early death.

If the result of conservative Senators keeping their campaign promises and refusing to support Obamacare Lite is "gridlock," then so be it. It is ridiculous to blame conservatives, who are sticking to their principles, for the failure of McConnell, Ryan, and the other RINOs in Congress to keep the promises that they made during the campaigns in which they posed as conservatives.

Trump needs to turn up the heat on the Republican leadership to send him a bill that he can sign with pride. There is no excuse for Republicans not to have had bills ready for Trump to sign on the day that he took office. It appears that the Republican leadership expected to be working with President Hillary Clinton on January 20. Like Jetpilot, it seems to me that McConnell and Ryan would prefer to be Minority leaders opposing a Democrat in the White House.

[TheRealThing]

If the result of conservative Senators keeping their campaign promises and refusing to support Obamacare Lite is "gridlock," then so be it. It is ridiculous to blame conservatives, who are sticking to their principles, for the failure of McConnell, Ryan, and the other RINOs in Congress to keep the promises that they made during the campaigns in which they posed as conservatives.

Trump needs to turn up the heat on the Republican leadership to send him a bill that he can sign with pride. There is no excuse for Republicans not to have had bills ready for Trump to sign on the day that he took office. It appears that the Republican leadership expected to be working with President Hillary Clinton on January 20. Like Jetpilot, it seems to me that McConnell and Ryan would prefer to be Minority leaders opposing a Democrat in the White House.

I'm not overly concerned about what you think is ridiculous. Especially in light of the fact that the voter just barely snatched this nation out of the jaws of insanity the last go round. I mean, have you bothered to listen to the things Dems have been saying of late? And then there is the little matter of the fact that Dems and stable sugar daddies the likes of Soros are behind all the anarchy dressed as peaceful protest, acts defended and their organizers wined and dined in the White House no less, by Obama himself. That being said, I probably shouldn't have included Mike Lee and Ted Cruz in my list but I'm holding my ground on Rand Paul.

There ain't no political worm hole here, Republicans won't be able to fold space, nor will they be able to turn back the clock. The mess is with us and all we can do is deal with it. You're right about the leadership, they leave a lot to be desired and I hope we can survive it somehow. Now, principles had not the first thing to do with the Dems and their 8 year run on sanity. Takers put them there and takers could put them back. To me the balance lies in the Republicans proving they are statesmen enough to take the steps which will bring voter confidence to themselves, staying in power long enough for the President's agenda to have a chance to work. That will mean the people's political decisions will be based on fact and not rhetorical gas.

The decline in which we find ourselves mired, did not occur overnight, and you can bet climbing back up on the rock of our national foundations will require reeducating the people, restoring Americanism ala the vision of Mark Levin and others, and that will take time. Time in which Republicans hold their majorities, and we can self govern our way back out of the welfare state mentality and back into the personal prosperity mentality.

[Hoot Gibson]

I'm not overly concerned about what you think is ridiculous. Especially in light of the fact that the voter just barely snatched this nation out of the jaws of insanity the last go round. I mean, have you bothered to listen to the things Dems have been saying of late? And then there is the little matter of the fact that Dems and stable sugar daddies the likes of Soros are behind all the anarchy dressed as peaceful protest, acts defended and their organizers wined and dined in the White House no less, by Obama himself. That being said, I probably shouldn't have included Mike Lee and Ted Cruz in my list but I'm holding my ground on Rand Paul.

There ain't no political worm hole here, Republicans won't be able to fold space, nor will they be able to turn back the clock. The mess is with us and all we can do is deal with it. You're right about the leadership, they leave a lot to be desired and I hope we can survive it somehow. Now, principles had not the first thing to do with the Dems and their 8 year run on sanity. Takers put them there and takers could put them back. To me the balance lies in the Republicans proving they are statesmen enough to take the steps which will bring voter confidence to themselves, staying in power long enough for the President's agenda to have a chance to work. That will mean the people's political decisions will be based on fact and not rhetorical gas.

The decline in which we find ourselves mired, did not occur overnight, and you can bet climbing back up on the rock of our national foundations will require reeducating the people, restoring Americanism ala the vision of Mark Levin and others, and that will take time. Time in which Republicans hold their majorities, and we can self govern our way back out of the welfare state mentality and back into the personal prosperity mentality.

Nothing Democrats have said or will say in the future will justify Republicans reneging on their promise to repeal Obamacare.

Republicans have no control over what Democrats say about them, but they do control Congress and it is time for McConnelll and Ryan to start delivering bills to Trump that are faithful to conservative Republican values. If they can't do that, then it is time for them to get out of the way and give somebody else a shot. So far, they have been worse than useless.

[jetpilot]

McConnell and Ryan are big government progressives. Their actions are going to cause Republicans to lose their majorities in Congress. Ultimately it will take President Trump's achievements for Republicans to keep their majorities, and so far he is getting zero help from Republican establishment leadership.

[Granny Bear]

He has NEVER received help from Republican establishment leadership. Even in his candidacy for President.

Another reason I kinda like him!

[TheRealThing]

Nothing Democrats have said or will say in the future will justify Republicans reneging on their promise to repeal Obamacare.

Republicans have no control over what Democrats say about them, but they do control Congress and it is time for McConnelll and Ryan to start delivering bills to Trump that are faithful to conservative Republican values. If they can't do that, then it is time for them to get out of the way and give somebody else a shot. So far, they have been worse than useless.

Exactly right. But laying the concerns of everybody else aside for a sec, there are enough moderate Senators to stymie the whole thing by their lonesome. Take Rob Portman for example, even with the enhanced Medicaid spending INCREASES he's still saying no, because he wants even more. Susan Collins will never back anything other than ObamaCare. Rand Paul would likely only vote for his own bill. Dean Heller and Shelley Moore Capito are two more who you know as well as I do would never support a conservative bill, even if it was as eloquently drawn as the Holy Bible. You couldn't even get the darn thing to a reconciliation vote, much less mark-ups, much less a floor vote. That leaves you with 47 theoretically, add Pence to that to make it 48 and the bill is still dead as a hammer.

That little slice of reality leaves you standing in the shoes of Mitch McConnell.