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01-29-2017, 01:46 AM
Watch a lot of games this year on both the boys and girls side. Seems like officiating in 13th Region has been very inconsistent and poor at times. What's going on with it? I thought officials in that region used to do fairly decent.
01-29-2017, 02:57 AM
Haven't watched many games in the 13th this year, but we have the same problem in the 12th. Seems like officials are getting confused and think it's more about them, then it is the teams that are playing. Can't stand arrogant officials, and that is exactly what every Fan in the building had to watch last night at Rockcastle.
01-29-2017, 03:33 AM
The ones that have been in the 13th a little while, have actually done a decent job for 13th region standards. The problem that I've noticed is that the assigner has brought some new officials that have only been doing middle school for years, and they are really, really bad. They was in middle school that long for a reason.
01-29-2017, 03:34 AM
I'm shocked I've not saw the "get licensed and take time out of your day to show them how to do it... Blah blah..." post. Lol.
01-29-2017, 03:53 AM
13th worst in state. I watched 3 take a game from OBI . OBI could have brought charges against them. I ask the question in the stands does OBI get that kind of treatment everywhere? Fouls at one point were called so bad it was 26-5. It got comical at the end. Not for OBI, they handled it with poise and their coach controlled them and they were a class act. I would have refused to play anymore, got tossed and got my ball and went home.LOL officials in 13th bad.
01-29-2017, 04:26 AM
01-29-2017, 04:42 AM
And that is why........
01-29-2017, 04:55 PM
NextGeneration Wrote:13th worst in state. I watched 3 take a game from OBI . OBI could have brought charges against them. I ask the question in the stands does OBI get that kind of treatment everywhere? Fouls at one point were called so bad it was 26-5. It got comical at the end. Not for OBI, they handled it with poise and their coach controlled them and they were a class act. I would have refused to play anymore, got tossed and got my ball and went home.LOL officials in 13th bad.
OBI does not catch any breaks from the refs and its been that way for years.
01-29-2017, 06:18 PM
There's about 3-4 guys and if you see they're gonna be the refs for the game.. then you know it's going to be a long night. They'd rather have the attention on them than on the boys, which makes for long drawn out games.
01-29-2017, 06:29 PM
Or...... OBI plays bad defense? Guess thats not a possibility. Foul count means nothing without knowing the type of defense and offense both teams are using.
A team the drives and works in the paint will always draw more fouls then a jump shooting team.
Same as a team that presses all game will pick up more fouls then a half court set.
I still find it hard to believe grown ass men would come into a game with the intentions of cheating a bunch of kids. Ecspecially in a regular season game that means absolutely nothing.
Ive said this before and it made some people mad. But its human nature. If your fans and coaches are assholes then absolutely i can see the 50/50 calls going against you. Whos gonna get the benfit of the doubt first..... coach a who is coaching his team or coach b who gives the refs hell every trip down the floor?
A team the drives and works in the paint will always draw more fouls then a jump shooting team.
Same as a team that presses all game will pick up more fouls then a half court set.
I still find it hard to believe grown ass men would come into a game with the intentions of cheating a bunch of kids. Ecspecially in a regular season game that means absolutely nothing.
Ive said this before and it made some people mad. But its human nature. If your fans and coaches are assholes then absolutely i can see the 50/50 calls going against you. Whos gonna get the benfit of the doubt first..... coach a who is coaching his team or coach b who gives the refs hell every trip down the floor?
01-29-2017, 06:38 PM
Nope, bad calls, I know the difference and can see. Yes I can see cheating and getting paid. If you can't you are blind. Here is something to consider, one of two things the officials are cheating or they are the worst in the state, which is it? Teams being bad have nothing to do with wrong calls and lack of knowledge of common rules. Especially when one side gets called and the same on the other doesn't.
01-29-2017, 07:05 PM
The 15th is not any better. I have seen 3 huge district games determined by the refs this year. It seems as if they are getting progressively worse. I am not a person who likes to blame the refs either because I feel the players catch on to it and it is an easy excuse for a loss. But, when it is blatantly obvious it is had to overlook.
01-29-2017, 07:23 PM
I'm just curious where you get your experience as a ref and rules knowledge? Have you ever done it? Simple fact is all are human. They make mistakes I just wonder if people who criticize had someone accusing them of cheating g their employers for mistakes in jobs on the internet? I'm not saying you are saying that but you have to know the game. Obviously your team lost or you wouldn't be complaining
01-29-2017, 07:26 PM
I would suggest you proving it instead of making accusations! That might hold up in court !
01-29-2017, 07:32 PM
You can take one good ref put him with two relatively new ones and they all look bad! I have read the rule books a while ago and unless they've changed it there's nothing there about equal number of free throws or fouls. Late game situations throw off fouls a lot because teams need to foul ! I just wonder if the people on here complaining owned a Resturant and people stood out side saying there's bugs in their food or got on the internet doing it? Just a thought
01-29-2017, 07:48 PM
Nope again, we won big. I have no hidden reason for saying what I am , they either cheated OBI or they are that bad, which is it?
01-29-2017, 07:50 PM
The Outsider Wrote:OBI does not catch any breaks from the refs and its been that way for years.
I believe that.
01-29-2017, 07:53 PM
Ivebeenthere Wrote:I would suggest you proving it instead of making accusations! That might hold up in court !
I love it when refs are on here. Some of you need thicker skin. It is not an accusation. It is a question as to which one it is?
01-29-2017, 09:08 PM
The officiating is simply bad all over the state. In the 15th region, the officials are always led by the home team. They make the close calls for the home team and look the other way on obvious calls. With three officials every game, it is amazing to see some of the calls missed. The officials are under pressure and worry about getting stratched for not calling how the home team coach or administration wants on given nights. You would think the officials would realize that every official is needed due to their lack of numbers. Difficult job but should be done fairly so that every student athlete is not short changed.
01-29-2017, 09:54 PM
WinkWinkler Wrote:The officiating is simply bad all over the state. In the 15th region, the officials are always led by the home team. They make the close calls for the home team and look the other way on obvious calls. With three officials every game, it is amazing to see some of the calls missed. The officials are under pressure and worry about getting stratched for not calling how the home team coach or administration wants on given nights. You would think the officials would realize that every official is needed due to their lack of numbers. Difficult job but should be done fairly so that every student athlete is not short changed.
The coaches ratings for the post season tournaments really comes into play big time, particularly if it's an out-of-region team playing. Unless the visiting team is 15-20 points better there's an excellent chance they're not going to win. Why? Because their coach can only rate officials from his region, not the ones where they're playing that night. That leads to some ridiculous officiating sometimes when say a 14th region team visits a 13th, or vice-versa. These refs are only human and they need a good rating to get some of the higher profile district and regional games, and coaches from other regions don't butter their bread.
01-29-2017, 09:56 PM
Ivebeenthere Wrote:I'm just curious where you get your experience as a ref and rules knowledge? Have you ever done it? Simple fact is all are human. They make mistakes I just wonder if people who criticize had someone accusing them of cheating g their employers for mistakes in jobs on the internet? I'm not saying you are saying that but you have to know the game. Obviously your team lost or you wouldn't be complaining
Actually, the badly refed district games I have seen was not just my team. Also, if we have no knowledge of the rules, and see that blatant calls were missed, doesn't that make it even worse on the refs part? Some calls are common sense. You don't have to read a rulebook to know them. Out of bounds has always been out of bounds. That is a black or white matter. Yet I have seen a district game blown on that very call. It was a seasoned official, and there was a photo of him looking right at the play. Yet he choked on the whistle. Some refs are just bad refs.
01-30-2017, 01:05 AM
Red team player and blue team player go for a loose ball and run into each other, and each player falls to the floor.
#1 ref calls foul on blue team, blue team gets on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. Red team says nothing.
Or
#2 ref calls foul on red team and red team gets on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. Blue team says nothing
Or
#3 ref doesn't call a foul and both red team and blue team get on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. The blue teams fans like the red team posts and vise versa.
Or
#4 ref calls a double foul, then has to T up both coaches and throw two students and a granny out of the gym. Both teams get on BGR and claim the ref cheats and is
the worst ref in the history of the game.
#1 ref calls foul on blue team, blue team gets on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. Red team says nothing.
Or
#2 ref calls foul on red team and red team gets on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. Blue team says nothing
Or
#3 ref doesn't call a foul and both red team and blue team get on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. The blue teams fans like the red team posts and vise versa.
Or
#4 ref calls a double foul, then has to T up both coaches and throw two students and a granny out of the gym. Both teams get on BGR and claim the ref cheats and is
the worst ref in the history of the game.
01-30-2017, 03:00 AM
Willie Turnover Wrote:Red team player and blue team player go for a loose ball and run into each other, and each player falls to the floor.
#1 ref calls foul on blue team, blue team gets on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. Red team says nothing.
Or
#2 ref calls foul on red team and red team gets on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. Blue team says nothing
Or
#3 ref doesn't call a foul and both red team and blue team get on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. The blue teams fans like the red team posts and vise versa.
Or
#4 ref calls a double foul, then has to T up both coaches and throw two students and a granny out of the gym. Both teams get on BGR and claim the ref cheats and is
the worst ref in the history of the game.
I wore a whistle for a while and gave it up for that very reason.
No matter what call you make, it isn't the right call in the eyes of someone sitting in the stands or on Facebook.
Sure, there were nights I felt I didn't call a spotless game... but what got me was when I felt I was doing my job well but I had to walk out the back door with my hood over my head because of some idiots didn't think their kid could do any wrong.
Next time you guys go to a game, pay attention to the crowd after every call - there's someone (usually several people) out there complaining about it.
01-30-2017, 04:04 AM
Same reason Ive turned down coaching small kids baseball and basketball..The parents, cant deal with it. Don't have the temperament. Love the kids though..Sure there are some stripes out there they don't need to be officiating just like very other job in life. Some good,some bad,some great and some awful. The way it always is and the way it always will be I suspect..
01-30-2017, 04:31 AM
I do agree that the officiating is pretty bad in the 13th. I also think some of the fan bases in the 13th are the worst in the state as well. There are about 3 or 4 teams who honestly believe they've never lost a fair game. You couldn't pay me enough to ref some of those games. I really enjoy it when a fan base works refs for a certain call all game only to have that call called against them late. The only effect you can have by working refs is a negative one. Let the kids play and the refs, ref.
01-30-2017, 03:55 PM
Willie Turnover Wrote:Red team player and blue team player go for a loose ball and run into each other, and each player falls to the floor.Amen
#1 ref calls foul on blue team, blue team gets on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. Red team says nothing.
Or
#2 ref calls foul on red team and red team gets on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. Blue team says nothing
Or
#3 ref doesn't call a foul and both red team and blue team get on BGR and says ref is a cheater and the worst ref in the state. The blue teams fans like the red team posts and vise versa.
Or
#4 ref calls a double foul, then has to T up both coaches and throw two students and a granny out of the gym. Both teams get on BGR and claim the ref cheats and is
the worst ref in the history of the game.
01-30-2017, 04:11 PM
Or we could have some bad refs, not everyone is great at their job. We have bad coaches, teachers, fans and even players. Hell is is my guess we have bad refs also. Most all have settled in the 13th.
01-30-2017, 05:14 PM
I personally think the officials in the 13th are crooked...I raised the question on here last year but all I got was crickets...
01-30-2017, 06:17 PM
The 14th is awful!!! What's sad is I've heard officials bet on high school games in 14th and 15th region and they have for years. You can tell when refs are for one team. I think they need to start over and get all new ones. I know for a fact several have been complained about and video has even been sent to KHSAA. It's sick to do high school kids that way that work their butts of and to be taken away by a bunch of asses!!!
01-30-2017, 09:05 PM
Equally Wrote:The 14th is awful!!! What's sad is I've heard officials bet on high school games in 14th and 15th region and they have for years. You can tell when refs are for one team. I think they need to start over and get all new ones. I know for a fact several have been complained about and video has even been sent to KHSAA. It's sick to do high school kids that way that work their butts of and to be taken away by a bunch of asses!!!
i think the refs that call the PCC vs Hazard game last had money on that game. because one of the ref only call fouls on Hazard another only call a fouls on PCC.
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