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07-19-2016, 03:56 PM
I'm a little surprised that you guys aren't all over this topic! LOL So....from Marlana Vanhoose's brilliant rendition of The Star Spangled Banner to Chris Matthews statement that the night was ruined over the comments from the mother of the Benghazi victim, to the accusations of plagiarism leveled at Melania Trump and all those things in between.....what are you guys thinking??
The two highlights to me were 1) Vanhoose and 2) Giuliani's speech
The two highlights to me were 1) Vanhoose and 2) Giuliani's speech
07-19-2016, 04:26 PM
Granny Bear Wrote:I'm a little surprised that you guys aren't all over this topic! LOL So....from Marlana Vanhoose's brilliant rendition of The Star Spangled Banner to Chris Matthews statement that the night was ruined over the comments from the mother of the Benghazi victim, to the accusations of plagiarism leveled at Melania Trump and all those things in between.....what are you guys thinking??
The two highlights to me were 1) Vanhoose and 2) Giuliani's speech
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07-19-2016, 04:27 PM
Granny Bear Wrote:I'm a little surprised that you guys aren't all over this topic! LOL So....from Marlana Vanhoose's brilliant rendition of The Star Spangled Banner to Chris Matthews statement that the night was ruined over the comments from the mother of the Benghazi victim, to the accusations of plagiarism leveled at Melania Trump and all those things in between.....what are you guys thinking??:Thumbs:
The two highlights to me were 1) Vanhoose and 2) Giuliani's speech
I guess so much was so good about last night that it is extremely difficult for our liberal friend to debunk and to put the negative "spin" on.....Overwhelmed, maybe? ........:biggrin:
07-19-2016, 04:29 PM
My bright spot for the convention was Marlana Vanhoose :worthy: The rest was about boots on the ground if Trump gets elected. :Sad04:
07-19-2016, 06:17 PM
64SUR Wrote:My bright spot for the convention was Marlana Vanhoose :worthy: The rest was about boots on the ground if Trump gets elected. :Sad04:
Are you saying that you watched the Convention????
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07-19-2016, 08:39 PM
Tonight will be fun to watched the convention round 2 count my vote. Well not my vote. nicker: :beg::beg::beg::beg:
07-20-2016, 05:42 PM
Where did everybody go to Cleveland. :disappoint:
07-20-2016, 08:43 PM
Remember, I did not vote for President Obama either time... Scott Baio said that the reason Obama does not say, "radical Islamic terrorist" is because "he is dumb, or an Islamic sympathizer, or a Muslim himself."
In my view, it is fine to disagree with a policy or practice, of course. But the kind of "motive searching" and "smut merchanting" that Baio here engaged in (both parties do it) takes true political debate into "lowest common denominator" realm, and, again, in my view, damages the country ultimately.
In my view, it is fine to disagree with a policy or practice, of course. But the kind of "motive searching" and "smut merchanting" that Baio here engaged in (both parties do it) takes true political debate into "lowest common denominator" realm, and, again, in my view, damages the country ultimately.
07-20-2016, 09:42 PM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Remember, I did not vote for President Obama either time... Scott Baio said that the reason Obama does not say, "radical Islamic terrorist" is because "he is dumb, or an Islamic sympathizer, or a Muslim himself."
In my view, it is fine to disagree with a policy or practice, of course. But the kind of "motive searching" and "smut merchanting" that Baio here engaged in (both parties do it) takes true political debate into "lowest common denominator" realm, and, again, in my view, damages the country ultimately.
We all have our opinions. I believe when the Dems say they want to be true to the dictates of the US Constitution but, keep that same mouth quiet when they know full well that "hands up don't shoot" never happened, your lowest common denominator just got made to look like Mount Everest. In fact, Ferguson was burned down three times because of it the Dems willingness to wink at their own lawlessness and still, the honorable Al Green and the Congressional Black Caucus have yet to publicly acknowledge their hypocrisy. Not to mention there has not been the slightest peep that I am aware of from any of them about all the cop assassinations.
And speaking of mountains, those same misunderstood and lovable Dems have a notable adherent hiding behind a mountain of money. The venerable George Soros, who reportedly pays for protestors to go to Republican events, gives them an hourly wage while they are "protesting", and a nice bonus if they actually get arrested. Bloodied white event attendees are viewed evidently as having gotten what they deserve in the eyes of the Dems. Never heard Obama, Hillary, the CBC, or any Dems at all for that matter, make a concession to law enforcement that was not couched in criticism of their policing tactics against blacks. :dudecomeon:
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07-20-2016, 10:24 PM
TheRealThing Wrote:We all have our opinions. I believe when the Dems say they want to be true to the dictates of the US Constitution but, keep that same mouth quiet when they know full well that "hands up don't shoot" never happened, your lowest common denominator just got made to look like Mount Everest. In fact, Ferguson was burned down three times because of it the Dems willingness to wink at their own lawlessness and still, the honorable Al Green and the Congressional Black Caucus have yet to publicly acknowledge their hypocrisy. Not to mention there has not been the slightest peep that I am aware of from any of them about all the cop assassinations.
And speaking of mountains, those same misunderstood and lovable Dems have a notable adherent hiding behind a mountain of money. The venerable George Soros, who reportedly pays for protestors to go to Republican events, gives them an hourly wage while they are "protesting", and a nice bonus if they actually get arrested. Bloodied white event attendees are viewed evidently as having gotten what they deserve in the eyes of the Dems. Never heard Obama, Hillary, the CBC, or any Dems at all for that matter, make a concession to law enforcement that was not couched in criticism of their policing tactics against blacks. :dudecomeon:
Dems pander and appeal to lowest common denominator also. Without question. I do not believe that Donald Trump is a "racist." He probably stands a better chance than Hillary Clinton of bringing some decent jobs back to our big cities. I am pretty skeptical about "the wall."
And, yes, Soros has the big money bags and an agenda, just like the Koch brothers.
07-21-2016, 12:48 AM
I'm not interested in what Scott Baio said.
I did see Cleveland's chief of police wade into the middle of a bunch of loud mouth assholes and calm down a situation that could've gotten out of hand very easily. IMO, this convention has so far, been a platform for positivity for the police.
I did see Cleveland's chief of police wade into the middle of a bunch of loud mouth assholes and calm down a situation that could've gotten out of hand very easily. IMO, this convention has so far, been a platform for positivity for the police.
07-21-2016, 01:33 AM
NOROVIRUS has hit the National Convention I knew it would happen. :Sad04:
07-21-2016, 02:32 AM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Dems pander and appeal to lowest common denominator also. Without question. I do not believe that Donald Trump is a "racist." He probably stands a better chance than Hillary Clinton of bringing some decent jobs back to our big cities. I am pretty skeptical about "the wall."
And, yes, Soros has the big money bags and an agenda, just like the Koch brothers.
You handled that quite well and your attitude was reasonable all the way up till the end when you couldn't resist an attempt to raise the state of Soros' dark heart to that of the Koch brothers. When did the Koch brothers hire mercenaries to tear down American neighborhoods and businesses?
The point is the movements from the time of the externally organized and funded Occupy Main Street protests, to the riots associated with Trayvon Martom and Michael Brown all the way through until today's the anti-Trump protests, have not been spontaneous, anything but actually. Like the faked and IMO treasonous alleges to the Benghazi video, and the so called spontaneous violence which resulted in the deaths of 4 US foreign diplomats, this has all been a put-on. Funded and conceived by those with what some have termed anti-American agendas, the bused in protestors are equally fake though considerably more destructive.
One could have conceivably torn this page in history directly from Bill Ayers playbook.
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07-21-2016, 03:47 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:You handled that quite well and your attitude was reasonable all the way up till the end when you couldn't resist an attempt to raise the state of Soros' dark heart to that of the Koch brothers. When did the Koch brothers hire mercenaries to tear down American neighborhoods and businesses?
The point is the movements from the time of the externally organized and funded Occupy Main Street protests, to the riots associated with Trayvon Martom and Michael Brown all the way through until today's the anti-Trump protests, have not been spontaneous, anything but actually. Like the faked and IMO treasonous alleges to the Benghazi video, and the so called spontaneous violence which resulted in the deaths of 4 US foreign diplomats, this has all been a put-on. Funded and conceived by those with what some have termed anti-American agendas, the bused in protestors are equally fake though considerably more destructive.
One could have conceivably torn this page in history directly from Bill Ayers playbook.
I think the Koch brothers have an agenda. I have not studied Soros closely. My intention was not to compare the Koch Brothers and Soros on moral terms. However, no fair observer would paint halos above the Koch brothers heads.
07-21-2016, 03:50 AM
Granny Bear Wrote:I'm not interested in what Scott Baio said.
I did see Cleveland's chief of police wade into the middle of a bunch of loud mouth assholes and calm down a situation that could've gotten out of hand very easily. IMO, this convention has so far, been a platform for positivity for the police.
"I'm not interested in what Scott Baio said." Apparently somebody was.
07-21-2016, 04:56 AM
Tonight Mr Cruz showed to the country, what I could not put my finger on during the primary season. Despite thousands of delegates and the distinguished, loudly demanding the endorsement of Donald J Trump, Ted Cruz just could not rise to the level of statesman. Upon the end of Mr Cruz' speech, in which Ted referred to the people's nominee only once, thousands booed him off the stage.
By the last few minutes of his speech, it had become obvious that he really is more concerned with his own career than for the good of the country. Everybody I heard speak in critique of Ted's performance said tonight, he committed political suicide.
By the last few minutes of his speech, it had become obvious that he really is more concerned with his own career than for the good of the country. Everybody I heard speak in critique of Ted's performance said tonight, he committed political suicide.
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07-21-2016, 05:11 AM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:Remember, I did not vote for President Obama either time... Scott Baio said that the reason Obama does not say, "radical Islamic terrorist" is because "he is dumb, or an Islamic sympathizer, or a Muslim himself."
In my view, it is fine to disagree with a policy or practice, of course. But the kind of "motive searching" and "smut merchanting" that Baio here engaged in (both parties do it) takes true political debate into "lowest common denominator" realm, and, again, in my view, damages the country ultimately.
You keep saying that, so are you implying that you voted for John McCain and Mitt Romney? Excuse me, but I can't envision that that ever happened..
Debate??? What is Baio debating?............How about he telling what many other Americans believe as well? Is he not allowed to tell what he thinks...He is far from being out in left field....
07-21-2016, 05:14 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:Tonight Mr Cruz showed to the country, what I could not put my finger on during the primary season. Despite thousands of delegates and the distinguished, loudly demanding the endorsement of Donald J Trump, Ted Cruz just could not rise to the level of statesman. Upon the end of Mr Cruz' speech, in which Ted referred to the people's nominee only once, thousands booed him off the stage.
By the last few minutes of his speech, it had become obvious that he really is more concerned with his own career than for the good of the country. Everybody I heard speak in critique of Ted's performance said tonight, he committed political suicide.
Throw John Kasich into that pile of trash too...Kasich's career is over after his current term.
07-21-2016, 05:16 AM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:I think the Koch brothers have an agenda. I have not studied Soros closely. My intention was not to compare the Koch Brothers and Soros on moral terms. However, no fair observer would paint halos above the Koch brothers heads.
Why of course you haven't...
Yeah right!!:eyeroll:
07-21-2016, 05:28 AM
TheRealThing Wrote:Tonight Mr Cruz showed to the country, what I could not put my finger on during the primary season. Despite thousands of delegates and the distinguished, loudly demanding the endorsement of Donald J Trump, Ted Cruz just could not rise to the level of statesman. Upon the end of Mr Cruz' speech, in which Ted referred to the people's nominee only once, thousands booed him off the stage.I seen a donors tweet earlier expressing his displeasure. His final tweet said Cruz will not get another dime. It was one of his evangelical donors. Needless to say he was mad. I was hoping he would help bring all this together and concentrate on beating Hillary, but his ego and lack of honoring the pledge got in the way. People won't forget this.
By the last few minutes of his speech, it had become obvious that he really is more concerned with his own career than for the good of the country. Everybody I heard speak in critique of Ted's performance said tonight, he committed political suicide.
07-21-2016, 05:45 AM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:I think the Koch brothers have an agenda. I have not studied Soros closely. My intention was not to compare the Koch Brothers and Soros on moral terms. However, no fair observer would paint halos above the Koch brothers heads.
And that would be......????:popcorn:
07-21-2016, 10:34 AM
Bob Seger Wrote:You keep saying that, so are you implying that you voted for John McCain and Mitt Romney? Excuse me, but I can't envision that that ever happened..
Debate??? What is Baio debating?............How about he telling what many other Americans believe as well? Is he not allowed to tell what he thinks...He is far from being out in left field....
President Obama's motive is not giving legitimacy to ISIS by saying they are part of true Islam. Now, folk may disagree with that reasoning, and that is fine. But always casting shade into what has been called the "politics of personal destruction" is, in my view, destructive.
07-21-2016, 12:52 PM
TRT - There are reasons why Cruz is not well liked in the Senate. I'm shocked Trump let him speak.
07-21-2016, 01:24 PM
Bob Seger Wrote:You keep saying that, so are you implying that you voted for John McCain and Mitt Romney? Excuse me, but I can't envision that that ever happened..
Debate??? What is Baio debating?............How about he telling what many other Americans believe as well? Is he not allowed to tell what he thinks...He is far from being out in left field....
Aaaaaand???:popcorn:
07-21-2016, 01:26 PM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:I think the Koch brothers have an agenda. I have not studied Soros closely. My intention was not to compare the Koch Brothers and Soros on moral terms. However, no fair observer would paint halos above the Koch brothers heads.
We are all on pins and needles waiting....:popcorn:
07-21-2016, 01:28 PM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:President Obama's motive is not giving legitimacy to ISIS by saying they are part of true Islam. Now, folk may disagree with that reasoning, and that is fine. But always casting shade into what has been called the "politics of personal destruction" is, in my view, destructive.
Bull!!
07-21-2016, 01:56 PM
Romney had %93 of GOP vote in 2012, despite reservations of his mormonism, won the independent vote, and still lost the election. Trump will not get to %90 of GOP support. There are just too many selfish people in the party. Trump will have to win by getting blue collar crossover votes.
If Trump is not elected, it will be because the GOP failed to fully support him, in which case, I am done with the GOP. A party that puts its hurt feelings in front of denying HRC the presidency IS NO for me!
If Trump is not elected, it will be because the GOP failed to fully support him, in which case, I am done with the GOP. A party that puts its hurt feelings in front of denying HRC the presidency IS NO for me!
07-21-2016, 02:25 PM
Bob Seger Wrote:Bull!!
You may, and do, disagree with said reason. However, projecting upon one you dislike that which you need them to be is sophomoric.
07-21-2016, 02:30 PM
The Urban Sombrero Wrote:President Obama's motive is not giving legitimacy to ISIS by saying they are part of true Islam. Now, folk may disagree with that reasoning, and that is fine. But always casting shade into what has been called the "politics of personal destruction" is, in my view, destructive.
That's hogwash. If it were an extremist Christian group he would be on tv everyday screaming about it.
My bigger question is about what happened yesterday, and that being the Obama/Clinton backed rebels beheading children on video because they say, "These are children of Bashar al-Assad". Our leaders or lack thereof are now accessories to beheading 5 year olds. I thought i could see a light at the end of the tunnel with only 6 months left under this regime, but the light got a lot dimmer yesterday when i seen this video. Just think, taxpayers are footing the bill for these killings. Just something else for Americans to be proud of :please:
07-21-2016, 03:36 PM
I saw Phil Robertson's interview on play back this morning. He was a passionate supporter of Cruz during the primary. He normally speaks little but is concise and to the point. He said that Cruz needs to get over it and move on for the betterment of the party and country. "You (Cruz) lost, he (Trump) won".
I also saw where Heidi Cruz was escorted out of the crowd, with some people yelling "Goldman Sachs" when she passed.
Division is weakening; I hope this party unifies soon.
I also saw where Heidi Cruz was escorted out of the crowd, with some people yelling "Goldman Sachs" when she passed.
Division is weakening; I hope this party unifies soon.
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