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National Review Slams Trump
#1
Bill Kristol and Erick Erickson have outdone themselves. Mounting a offensive charge against Donald J Trump that I am certain has Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz in bubbly spirits this morning. http://www.rawstory.com/

You know, I would like to know where all these genius level Presidential 'gatekeepers' were back in 2008 when Mr Obama was making his run up to the White House. If they had one tenth the discerning prowess they claim to have, they'd have been screaming their heads off in sounding the alarm. I believe however, that they are equal opportunity bone heads. They slept through their big chance in 2008, and now with plenty of unused ammo in store, they want to expend their allotment in the form of 'friendly fire' on Trump. We've been running genuine conservatives, vetted and groomed to be President and thus we've all taken their word and have been sort of doing it their way. Wake up boys, we lost the last two elections and Hillary is the threat. They need to change the title of their article to "let's shoot up the tent"

I believe that such ilk are establishment ideologues, writers who have lost their political sight. America got transformed, that ship has already sailed and no amount of nostalgia dredged up from their conservative archives will return this nation to yesteryear. At least not immediately. We must use the resources we have to slow the misguided momentum of this listing and lumbering ship of state, not the resources we wish we had. Here is what I mean.

Conservatives regret deeply, their passive past, and yet Republicans have been given a gift of sorts in that the inevitable has happened. The rabid chipmunks have been in charge of our affairs and there is not one area of national influence that has not suffered as the result, leaving liberal credibility vulnerable. From the countless scandals, to the deal with Iran which bestows 150 billion dollars plus interest to it's state coffers. I mean, that is nothing short of returning a bank robber's ill gotten cash once he kind of suggests he might behave from now on. :please: Here we have a situation in which Americans not only despise much of what their President has done, they also resent and despise the Dem's heir apparent in the person of Hillary Clinton. And what is the establishment Republican response? They want to return the favor and run a candidate like Jeb Bush who being a Bush, is likely despised to a similar level with the very crossover voters who Republicans are desperately courting to gain back the White House.

In short, neither side gets it. It will be up to "the people" to step up and elect the candidate they want.
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#2
As it was everytime before, this will only help Trumps numbers.
#3
It's about time. William F. Buckley would have been pleased. Donald Trump is not and never has been a conservative, so why shouldn't the National Review actively oppose his campaign? Jeb Bush is more conservative than Trump and Jeb is not a conservative at all. Trump has responded to the magazine's action in a predictably thin-skinned manner - via a childish tweet declaring that National Review is a failing publication.

Trump is a 69 year old spoiled, liberal brat of a man. His good friend Bill Clinton encouraged Trump to run. If for some reason Obama fails to issue a pardon to Hillary for her numerous felonies, the Clintons can count on Donald Trump to set her free.
#4
Well in all honesty the National Review isn't what it once was, so I'm not sure how telling the truth is childish.
#5
National Review is not what it once was because after William F. Buckley's death, it got away from what made it great. Embracing and endorsing politicians like George W. Bush and Mit Romney as conservatives was the wrong thing to do for a conservative publication. Aligning itself with conservatives against liberal Republican Donald Trump is a step in the right direction.

What is childish is Trump's belief that everybody who disagrees with him is a failure and deserving of a 140 character condemnation. I am not a fan of #politics. Trump is a self-proclaimed conservative because he thinks "being" a conservative will give him the best chance at winning the nomination. Trump is an outstanding propagandist but I am not falling for his shtick.

Disregard what Trump has said in the past 8 months and focus on what he said and did before he declared himself as a presidential candidate. Do you see Donald Trump as a man who was a conservative on June 1, 2015? I see an ambitious self-centered liberal.
#6
So what you're saying is the National Review was going in the wrong direction and it's ok for them to right the ship and change but nobody else can change their thinking and way of doing things? Gotcha :Thumbs:
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Demarcus ware Wrote:So what you're saying is the National Review was going in the wrong direction and it's ok for them to right the ship and change but nobody else can change their thinking and way of doing things? Gotcha :Thumbs:
Nobody makes an immediate transition from a liberal to a conservative when he declares himself a candidate for president. Yet, that is what one must believe to really believe that Trump is a conservative. I will be supporting and voting for candidates who have never written large checks to Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, John Boehner, Mitch McConnel, Hillary Clinton, or Bill De Blasio. Donald Trump is a liar and I do not believe that he has miraculously transformed from a liberal crony capitalist into a conservative Republican.

If Trump wins the presidency, governs as a constitutional conservative, and runs for a second term, then I will support him. Until he proves otherwise, to me Trump is just an ambitious blowhard liberal seeking to become the most powerful human in the world.
#8
National Review publisher is heart broke because of subscription cancellations this morning. Guess that didn't work like they thought. They ganged up and took a swipe at one of the most outspoken people in the country, surely they expected him to take a swipe back. Problem is they didn't expect so many Trump supporters to have subscriptions with them. If you dish it out, be prepared to take it as well, especially from someone that has a platform such as Trump.
#9
You were okay with Trump before he started going after Cruz.

We all knew that would eventually happen.
They are the two frontrunners.

They will both get my vote if they win the primary.
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RunItUpTheGut Wrote:You were okay with Trump before he started going after Cruz.

We all knew that would eventually happen.
They are the two frontrunners.

They will both get my vote if they win the primary.
I was never OK with Trump. I tried to keep an open mind as long as possible. However, you are correct that Trump made my decision easy when he started dishonestly attacking Cruz.

I will not vote for Trump under any circumstance in 2016. I don't care if his poll numbers climb to 99 percent favorability among Republicans. Peer pressure will not sway me into voting for a liberal megalomaniac.
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RunItUpTheGut Wrote:You were okay with Trump before he started going after Cruz.

We all knew that would eventually happen.
They are the two frontrunners.

They will both get my vote if they win the primary.



I saw this kind of thing go down back during the Reagan campaigns. During his acting career Reagan had done a movie entitled "Bedtime for Bonzo." Which though a hit, none the less served as a bottomless 'goldmine of scorn' for left the wingers of the day. Dope headed hippies and all sorts of anti-establishment heathen out in California, including Bill Ayers and the Jane Fonda types, along with leftist academia, all hated the Godly advocacy of Governor Reagan. You see, the last thing free living hippies wanted to hear were reminders of their moral trespass of drug abuse and sex. Not to mention his actor friends, which wanted nothing further to do with him and openly mocked him for saying he had changed.

When he ran for President, the GOP establishment which in those days were much more polite than today's arrogant piranha, joined with the lefties mentioned above in an effort to diminish Mr Reagan in the eyes of the people. Reagan was a man with a target on his back, but he proved all the naysayers wrong and turned out to be the greatest President of my lifetime.

Is Donald Trump the skunk that he is being painted? Anything is possible I suppose, but the glassy eyed and superficial just elected and then in the face of insurmountable evidence Re-elected a guy who grew up in Kenya, to the office of President of the United States. And forgive me, but I believe he got elected because he was black and we're all about diversity these days you know. As a matter of fact, the reason that the Dems have had that self assured smirk on their faces regarding their chances with liberal goddess Hillary, is because electing a woman is the next most overwhelming niche to fill on the left's agenda. Then if things continue down the same road, and America did manage to cling to statehood by a fingernail, you can bet we'd just have to have a homosexual President. Ridiculous and blind naïveté on display.

During the last 7 years I have watched the US Congress, though certainly not perfect, reduced to a world wide laughing stock under the direction of Harry Reid and San Fran Nan. I saw 6 billion dollars in Iranian assets seized by the Carter Administration. Somehow blow out to a fantastic 150 billion and was returned along with 1 1/2 billion in interest if you can believe that, to Iran. I'll not go through my entire list but suffice it to say, the "transformation" that googly eyed supporters wept in anticipation over in Chicago's Grant Park the night of his election has caused me to weep tears for a much different reason.

I predicted this would happen. The dogs are gnashing on the person of one Donald J Trump, and they are vicious. I believe it is just as probable to take him at his word in this case, and grant that he could may well have changed. Winston Churchill ---"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

It was fairly easy to see this fray coming as establishment GOPers have once more agreed to shake hands with Satan in an unholy alliance "Against Trump." Give the man a chance, and in saying that I am not advocating for votes. I'm saying all conservatives get there via the same route of which the sage and learned Winston Churchill suggested, a change in the way we think. And BTW, they don't all use the same exit ramp, 59 or 60 is not completely out of the question.
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#12
I gave Trump a chance. I cannot in good conscience vote for the man. Trump has nothing in common with Ronald Reagan. After decades of advocating conservative positions and two successful terms as a conservative governor of California, nobody doubted that Ronald Reagan was a conservative before he decided to run for president.

Trump is a political opportunist. There is no hard evidence that Trump is a conservative. In fact, there is no hard evidence that Trump is not the same liberal that he was at age 60+. I don't think Churchill or Reagan would have fallen for Trump's claim to be a conservative. Actions matter and all we have on which to judge Trump are words.

Reagan treated his political opponents with respect and never resorted to vicious personal attacks on people who dared to disagree with him. I remember how Reagan's most vocal critics acknowledged that he was a likable man who treated them with respect and good humor.

The comparisons of Reagan to Trump make no sense. Trump is used to using getting his way by using his wallet. When Trump's money does not get the results he wants, then he falls back on childish insults or lawsuits. Take Trump at his word. He equates political donations with bribes and boasts about how many politicians he has bought in the past. Trump's behavior will not change, given control over a $4 trillion/year budget. He will continue to spend money to wield influence but it will not be his own money that he will be spending.
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:I gave Trump a chance. I cannot in good conscience vote for the man. Trump has nothing in common with Ronald Reagan. After decades of advocating conservative positions and two successful terms as a conservative governor of California, nobody doubted that Ronald Reagan was a conservative before he decided to run for president.

Trump is a political opportunist. There is no hard evidence that Trump is a conservative. In fact, there is no hard evidence that Trump is not the same liberal that he was at age 60+. I don't think Churchill or Reagan would have fallen for Trump's claim to be a conservative. Actions matter and all we have on which to judge Trump are words.

Reagan treated his political opponents with respect and never resorted to vicious personal attacks on people who dared to disagree with him. I remember how Reagan's most vocal critics acknowledged that he was a likable man who treated them with respect and good humor.

The comparisons of Reagan to Trump make no sense. Trump is used to using getting his way by using his wallet. When Trump's money does not get the results he wants, then he falls back on childish insults or lawsuits. Take Trump at his word. He equates political donations with bribes and boasts about how many politicians he has bought in the past. Trump's behavior will not change, given control over a $4 trillion/year budget. He will continue to spend money to wield influence but it will not be his own money that he will be spending.


I understand your points, but his unshrinking admonition to the rest of the GOP field about money controlling establishment candidates was made on the debate stage, and in front of the greatest live audience in history to ever witness a presidential debate. So, in making his charge he was also admitting to having been part of the problem as well. His challenge to Cruz was on the heels of a Democrat offer to sue on eligibility grounds, which I heard Alan Grayson repeat BTW. Now, maybe whoever initially made the threat would not have had standing and could not have followed through but, I say that was a favor because the issue has already begun to dissipate. And, not that the behavior of the others such as Jeb Bush should necessarily be emulated, but gentlemanly decorum has been out the window since the Clintons came on the scene.

I'm sure you realize that I made no Reagan comparisons. I made comparisons to the way Reagan and Trump were received by the establishment of the day, liberals, and those who despise candidates who in any way define their views as being shaped by a desire to honor the dictates of The Almighty. I did say that I think Trump's affinity for being truthful was reminiscent of Reagan and speculated that Trump may govern similarly. In no way can I back that up, I was just saying that is my take. I agree that you could be right. I however, have only my own thoughts and experience to go by and, to my own self I must be true. :biggrin:
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TheRealThing Wrote:I understand your points, but his unshrinking admonition to the rest of the GOP field about money controlling establishment candidates was made on the debate stage, and in front of the greatest live audience in history to ever witness a presidential debate. So, in making his charge he was also admitting to having been part of the problem as well. His challenge to Cruz was on the heels of a Democrat offer to sue on eligibility grounds, which I heard Alan Grayson repeat BTW. Now, maybe whoever initially made the threat would not have had standing and could not have followed through but, I say that was a favor because the issue has already begun to dissipate. And, not that the behavior of the others such as Jeb Bush should necessarily be emulated, but gentlemanly decorum has been out the window since the Clintons came on the scene.

I'm sure you realize that I made no Reagan comparisons. I made comparisons to the way Reagan and Trump were received by the establishment of the day, liberals, and those who despise candidates who in any way define their views as being shaped by a desire to honor the dictates of The Almighty. I did say that I think Trump's affinity for being truthful was reminiscent of Reagan and speculated that Trump may govern similarly. In no way can I back that up, I was just saying that is my take. I agree that you could be right. I however, have only my own thoughts and experience to go by and, to my own self I must be true. :biggrin:
I do not equate being rude, arrogant, and loud with being honest. I see no evidence of Trump being as honest as most of the candidates running against him. In fact, I think Trump's entire campaign is built on a platform of dishonesty. He is not who he claims to be and, if elected, he will not do the things that he promises to do. I may be wrong, but that is my assessment of Donald Trump.

Confessing to bribery as a claim to moral high ground is not a persuasive argument. Trump will continue to use legal bribery in the future because it has worked for him in the past. The difference, as I have said before, is that he will not be using his own money to buy politicians - the money will be our's.
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:I do not equate being rude, arrogant, and loud with being honest. I see no evidence of Trump being as honest as most of the candidates running against him. In fact, I think Trump's entire campaign is built on a platform of dishonesty. He is not who he claims to be and, if elected, he will not do the things that he promises to do. I may be wrong, but that is my assessment of Donald Trump.

Confessing to bribery as a claim to moral high ground is not a persuasive argument. Trump will continue to use legal bribery in the future because it has worked for him in the past. The difference, as I have said before, is that he will not be using his own money to buy politicians - the money will be our's.



He didn't say he bribed anybody. He said that politicians come to him asking for money. And when they do, they feel beholden to him for his having given it to them. They are thereafter, highly attentive to what he has to say. Sorry, but I'd still call that honesty.

And you said, you don't know he is not who he says he is, or that he will not govern as he says though, I am certain that you feel strongly about it. Perhaps your powers of discernment are superior to mine and you are therefore right about all of this. Time will tell. This business all got very personal to me when I noticed the media become the swamp it is today. That is when the American voter became a manipulated entity, and when I realized the level of dishonesty which permeates the media and the federal government. I am not about to let the National Review or anybody else tell me what I think ever. I loved the way Trump took on the media. At any rate, the truth is out there to be had if one cares to be diligent enough to glean it for himself.
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TheRealThing Wrote:He didn't say he bribed anybody. He said that politicians come to him asking for money. And when they do, they feel beholden to him for his having given it to them. They are thereafter, highly attentive to what he has to say. Sorry, but I'd still call that honesty.

And you said, you don't know he is not who he says he is, or that he will not govern as he says though, I am certain that you feel strongly about it. Perhaps your powers of discernment are superior to mine and you are therefore right about all of this. Time will tell. This business all got very personal to me when I noticed the media become the swamp it is today. That is when the American voter became a manipulated entity, and when I realized the level of dishonesty which permeates the media and the federal government. I am not about to let the National Review or anybody else tell me what I think ever. I loved the way Trump took on the media. At any rate, the truth is out there to be had if one cares to be diligent enough to glean it for himself.
I have done my due diligence on Donald Trump. This morning, I read an article by William F. Buckley from 1990. Apparently he reached the same conclusion about Trump that I have. Maybe Buckley was wrong then and maybe I am wrong now, but it is rare that a person's basic personality changes after puberty, barring a traumatic experience.

Trump claims to be a conservative. It is not my responsibility to prove that Trump is not a conservative. If Trump expects conservatives to vote for him because he is one of us, then he needs to make that case. When I hear Trump speak, I hear an arrogant, obnoxious, narcissistic, demagogic jerk. There is not much Trump can do at this point to change my opinion of him. On the other hand, my opinion of Trump cannot get much worse. :biggrin:
#17
I dont care who wins the Republican nomination, they will getake my vote even ifor Kasich won.
In nor form or fashion is anyone running worse than the felon liar and the socialist.
#18
If Trump gets the nod, he gets my vote. Hillary and Bernie are proudly pro-choice. Trump, at the very LEAST, states that he is not and gives a personal story as to why he is pro-life now. Of the three, Trump wins the day in that major issue. If nothing else, he gets my vote over Hillary and Bernie for that alone.
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LWC Wrote:If Trump gets the nod, he gets my vote. Hillary and Bernie are proudly pro-choice. Trump, at the very LEAST, states that he is not and gives a personal story as to why he is pro-life now. Of the three, Trump wins the day in that major issue. If nothing else, he gets my vote over Hillary and Bernie for that alone.




Agreed. I believe it is extremely likely that things will be largely set in stone by the time Kentuckians get to vote. Nineteen states will have weighed in at that point and either Cruz or Trump will probably have a commanding lead. I like Ted a lot and we could do much worse. Where Trump is concerned I agree with what you have said because, we know that the Dems openly and militantly defend their stand for abortion on demand. He has said otherwise and thus the debate centers around his integrity and whether or not he can be believed. We know Hillary can't, and Bernie seems mad as a hatter.

I'm just ecstatic to think that soon Obama will be history and Hillary has become a relatively easy out.
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Democrats are looking for some used Republican.... :lmao:
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So the National Review decided that now they need to go after Trumps supporters calling them ignorant bigots, and this wouldn't happen in a Nation that could read Confusednicker: I think i seen homophobe being thrown around in there as well. LOL. Total meltdown is happening. Haha
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Demarcus ware Wrote:So the National Review decided that now they need to go after Trumps supporters calling them ignorant bigots, and this wouldn't happen in a Nation that could read Confusednicker: I think i seen homophobe being thrown around in there as well. LOL. Total meltdown is happening. Haha
Opposing Trump does not require literacy. He has left a long. slimy video trail.
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:Opposing Trump does not require literacy. He has left a long. slimy video trail.
He may have but it's still fun to watch how people are freaking out over this. Cruz supporters are getting desperate and starting to act like the liberals on these message boards. Me personally i'll vote for Cruz or Trump in the General, so i get to sit back and just laugh at everyone.
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Demarcus ware Wrote:He may have but it's still fun to watch how people are freaking out over this. Cruz supporters are getting desperate and starting to act like the liberals on these message boards. Me personally i'll vote for Cruz or Trump in the General, so i get to sit back and just laugh at everyone.
You have it backwards. Trumpsters are the ones acting like liberals, as is their fearful leader. I left the Free Republic web site, which was once the premier conservative site on the web, after its owner decided to back Trump. He started banning any member who said they would not vote for Trump in the general election. I can't, so I left.

I know that some Cruz supporters are behaving as bad as Trump's supporters, but visit freerepublic.com or poke around on twitter and you will see that both sides have their obnoxious supporters. Trump seems to have more of them to me, but I admit to being very biased against Trump because of his antics, not those of his supporters.
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:You have it backwards. Trumpsters are the ones acting like liberals, as is their fearful leader. I left the Free Republic web site, which was once the premier conservative site on the web, after its owner decided to back Trump. He started banning any member who said they would not vote for Trump in the general election. I can't, so I left.

I know that some Cruz supporters are behaving as bad as Trump's supporters, but visit freerepublic.com or poke around on twitter and you will see that both sides have their obnoxious supporters. Trump seems to have more of them to me, but I admit to being very biased against Trump because of his antics, not those of his supporters.
Oh don't get me wrong, i've ran across some crazed Trump supporters as well. I go back and forth on websites just reading and laughing at both sides. I'm not getting emotionally involved like i did in the past. I lost family members and everything over the 2008 election. Of course, they are from Ohio and support Obama so i didn't really lose much. You can go to any website and find the nutjobs from any of the candidates. lol
#26
Here is the difference this time around that you've never seen.....Trump supporters are and have been attacked and called xenophobes, homophobes, bigots, etc, but the only problem is all of them don't give a damn. lol.

Until the media realizes them and the regular ole Nazis who consistently whine and cry wont effect the support of him, there going about it all wrong.

They don't care if you call them those things. They know most of those things are true and they don't care. Hell, if anything, there proud of it. I love it. Ive never seen the total disregard for political correctness in my life. The throwing aside of hurt feeling and being butthurt is like ecstasy to me. I love watching and reading a new story on CNN every single day about how this is so wrong. Nobody cares.
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^^For the past couple of decades the folks who live on a self sufficient basis (meaning they actually earn their own way in this world) have harbored attitudes that could be described as sort of a slow boil. An awful lot of those hardworking people have been pulling their rather sparsely loaded grocery carts up behind ones that are loaded to the gills. Guess what they have noticed about how many of the 'loaded' cart drivers pay for their culinary bounty? They see a nice looking card with an American Flag blowing in the breeze emblazoned on it being handed to the cashier. Welfare. Going through things of that sort kind of makes one feel used and abused at the same time.

During the last seven years the slow boil has enflamed become a rolling boil. And if you missed it today, tune in tomorrow and Mr Obama or Hillary will tell you all about how you have to pay your fair share. You have to pay for other people's health care, their home, what they eat, cell phones and you name it. Now, if you ask me, that and the unraveling world picture is why Trump supporters will not be dissuaded.

It's incredible to hear the media drone on and on about Trump's having "tapped into the voters anger," and realizing that in having said that they are still missing the point. I have always believed that the day would come when the middle class, whether they be Republican or Democrat, would wake up and realize that it would eventually take about everything they have to fund the nanny state. And, although I can truthfully say that I trust Cruz, and I believe that any of the other Republicans in the field would be light years better than any of the Democrats, Trump is the most viable candidate outside of the establishment who are responsible for taking advantage of constituencies for decades. The common man has found his candidate.
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TheRealThing Wrote:^^For the past couple of decades the folks who live on a self sufficient basis (meaning they actually earn their own way in this world) have harbored attitudes that could be described as sort of a slow boil. An awful lot of those hardworking people have been pulling their rather sparsely loaded grocery carts up behind ones that are loaded to the gills. Guess what they have noticed about how many of the 'loaded' cart drivers pay for their culinary bounty? They see a nice looking card with an American Flag blowing in the breeze emblazoned on it being handed to the cashier. Welfare. Going through things of that sort kind of makes one feel used and abused at the same time.

During the last seven years the slow boil has enflamed become a rolling boil. And if you missed it today, tune in tomorrow and Mr Obama or Hillary will tell you all about how you have to pay your fair share. You have to pay for other people's health care, their home, what they eat, cell phones and you name it. Now, if you ask me, that and the unraveling world picture is why Trump supporters will not be dissuaded.

It's incredible to hear the media drone on and on about Trump's having "tapped into the voters anger," and realizing that in having said that they are still missing the point. I have always believed that the day would come when the middle class, whether they be Republican or Democrat, would wake up and realize that it would eventually take about everything they have to fund the nanny state. And, although I can truthfully say that I trust Cruz, and I believe that any of the other Republicans in the field would be light years better than any of the Democrats, Trump is the most viable candidate outside of the establishment who are responsible for taking advantage of constituencies for decades. The common man has found his candidate.
Most, if not all recent polls show Trump faring worse against Sanders or Clinton than Cruz or any of the other top Republicans. I believe that Trump would win the general election but I also believe that any of the other Republicans would also win the election easily. The difference is, I don't think Trump has the temperment, experience, or knowledge to do well as president.

As you know, I have been predicting for some time that Hillary will not be the Democrats' nominee. I also believe that the Democrats will find a way to replace Bernie with somebody who has a better chance of winning. They could work that to their advantage by waiting until late in the race before subbing so that they can match their candidate's strength against the Republican candidates weaknesses.

Trump would have a tough time beating a likable Democrat with experience. Jeb Bush has been right about one thing. Trump cannot win the White House with personal insults and that seems to me to be about all he has in his tank.
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Hoot Gibson Wrote:Most, if not all recent polls show Trump faring worse against Sanders or Clinton than Cruz or any of the other top Republicans. I believe that Trump would win the general election but I also believe that any of the other Republicans would also win the election easily. The difference is, I don't think Trump has the temperment, experience, or knowledge to do well as president.

As you know, I have been predicting for some time that Hillary will not be the Democrats' nominee. I also believe that the Democrats will find a way to replace Bernie with somebody who has a better chance of winning. They could work that to their advantage by waiting until late in the race before subbing so that they can match their candidate's strength against the Republican candidates weaknesses.

Trump would have a tough time beating a likable Democrat with experience. Jeb Bush has been right about one thing. Trump cannot win the White House with personal insults and that seems to me to be about all he has in his tank.



Okay well, let's get the field winnowed down to 2 Republicans and then see what the polls say.
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TheRealThing Wrote:Okay well, let's get the field winnowed down to 2 Republicans and then see what the polls say.
Polls show Cruz topping Trump in a two man race, even before he retreated from the next debate. I predict that you will never see Donald Trump debate Ted Cruz one on one - but Trump does not seem like a stable individual, so I guess anything is possible.

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