[64SUR]

Final......Shocker in Manchester tonight. :pondering:

[Leonards_loser]

Final......Shocker in Manc?night. :pondering:

This is quite a shocker…..Boyle has a nice team but would've never thought they could knock off the Tigers at Manchester. What kind of game did Elkins have tonight?

[zaga_fan]

That's a big road win.

[ky playmaker]

I heard elkins had 14 blocks.

[JeanClaudeVanGraham]

I watched the Kentucky game and just now saw this score. Boyle County isn't bad but I figured Clay would win at home. As the old saying goes that's why you play the game.

[ky playmaker]

Clay has jet lag Well except farmer. He seems to be rolling

[Paparazzi]

Clay has a lot of talent but at times they seem to get away from a team oriented game. They are a good sized team but get carried away with the 3's sometimes. They will bounce back.

[UKCC]

Elkins made his presence defensively for sure but was not much of a factor on the offensive end. Too many open 3's given up for Clay County. Got in a hole in what was a really good game. Farmer was on, and some, from the jump. Unfortunately, that performance comes in a losing effort. Boyle County is a better team than most anticipated. I honestly went in to this not really knowing what to expect from them. Smith managed to put some points on the board but the kid's shot just is not falling and I hate it for him because it was not as if he wasn't trying. Of course, getting blocked a couple times can make you question things but he kept going back. Clay County honestly rebounded really well at times for being undersized, that surprised me. They just gave up several second chance opportunities on a few occasions. At the end of the day, the Tigers simply got beat. I wouldn't press a panic button or anything of that nature. Regroup and head to the Classic.


Side note: the gym was horrible before the game even began. Clay County fans wanted no part of the game it seemed like to me. Boyle County is a very respectable program and brought a nice group. Dead fans, no band, weak student section. Not good.

[StormTrooper]

Score is decieving, Boyle had a 13 point lead with a little over two minutes remaining and Farmer got hot. Big boy from Boyle is legit on the defensive end probably had 10 blocks easy. He didn't get the ball hardly at all because clay doubled him for the most part and left shooters wide open, I think the #12 kid had 22, somehow lost him all night.

[callmecrazy33]

I really want to revisit some of these threads and comments, but there's so many I don't know where to start. This is why you should just let the kids play and just let their play do the talking, instead of getting on a message board and comparing a team to UK and putting them in the state championship in December. If the kids don't read this stuff, they are definitely told what everyone is saying or expecting of them.

Like many have said, their are so many evenly matched teams across the state, there are very few regions where I would declare obvious favorites.

[StormTrooper]

Your crazy

[Leonards_loser]

Elkins had 12 rebs and 7 blocks. Farmer almost carried Clay to a remarkable comeback with 33 pts. Farmer is locked in and on a different level right now!

[big53]

Elkins had 12 rebs and 7 blocks. Farmer almost carried Clay to a remarkable comeback with 33 pts. Farmer is locked in and on a different level right now!

It took Farmer 30 FG attempts to get those 33 points and I don't know how many free throws. And he only shot 31% from deep. Boys that's a lot of shootin.

[Randy_Watson]

Elkins had 12 rebs and 7 blocks. Farmer almost carried Clay to a remarkable comeback with 33 pts. Farmer is locked in and on a different level right now!

If 13-30fg is locked and loaded then Clay dont have a chance. Farmer and Smith both had terrible offensive games. Got out played and out coached simple as that.

[basketball101]

Tough loss I am still in shock !!!!!!

[Catfan09]

It took Farmer 30 FG attempts to get those 33 points and I don't know how many free throws. And he only shot 31% from deep. Boys that's a lot of shootin.

That's a whole lotta shooting. It's hard for others to put points on the board if one person is taking all the shots. This happens way to often when the emphasis is put on box scores.

[ky playmaker]

Farmer had too. He was 5-13 from 3 39 percent. 44 percent from field. Rest team was 10-35 from field. 0-3 from three. Smith was 3-19 for 15 percent

[walterwhite]

Can't say I thought the Tigers would lose, I'd be telling a whopper. I did feel worse and worse about this game the closer it got to tip off. Something missing. Can't put my finger on it but not the same team I've been watching. Boyle deserved the win and got it. Bottom line. On to the WYMT. Put it behind and move on. I do agree that this makes South number 1 for the time being, which means very little. Just more fodder for message board discussions.

[E's Army]

Congrats to Boyle. Tiggers will go as far as Farmer carries them. He is the straw that stirs the drink.

[walterwhite]

Sometimes we forget that all these teams are made up of high school kids. To borrow a Cal quote," they're not robots".

[Granny Bear]

Everybody has a bad game every now and again. What makes winners, is the simple fact that they don't quit! They learn, and move on...just like Clay Co will do.

We didn't have a great game last night either, but we kept on fighting and was lucky enough to come out with a win. A loss isn't going to kill any team, even Clay.

[UKCC]

To be honest, there's not a coach in the country, down double digits with 2 minutes to go, going to say, "Let's see what our 3rd or 4th options can do." Clay County had one choice at that point, let the one player that can do that go to work. Now, as for the entire game, our shots just were not falling. The shots Blake Smith was taking were what he does every single night. He got blocked a few times early and that could have made him think about things but in the second half, he got open quite a bit and the ball still would not stay in. Nights like this happen, it's early January. Relax.

Was this really a shock in people's minds? Two one-loss teams that are traditionally good? It does not shock me. Clay County is good but did some of you all really rank us top-10 or something? I feel as though both of these teams are top 25 quality.

[Randy_Watson]

Ill say this and then im off this subject, if anyone in that gym thought Farmer or anyone else on clays team played good they are blind or ignorant to the game of basketball. Clay will not beat anyone with 1 player shooting 46 percent of the entire teams shots. No ball movement, garbage junk defenses, and terrible in game adjustments in the 2nd half. Terrible effort from the players and the Coach. Hopefully this is a wake up call for all of them.

[Leonards_loser]

Farmer's shooting % was actually not bad, 39% from the three and 44% overall. Like Playmaker said, Farmer didn't have much choice since noone else could buy a bucket. Smith is exceptional and everyone has a bad night. He will be back strong as ever knocking down that mid range jumper. While this may have not been an overall good team performance from Clay, Farmer done all he could to will this team to an incredible comeback. Its pretty amazing to watch him knock down those long range bombs in clutch situations.

[JeanClaudeVanGraham]

Sometimes a loss does a team good. Clay hasn't played very well since they came back from Vegas but they were still doing just good enough to get wins. Playing good enough to get the win but not good basketball is like playing with fire. It'll get you eventually. Boyle County is a good team. A loss in the first week of January doesn't make or break a team's season but it can be a great motivator.

[UKCC]

Why can't people accept the fact that nobody could play last night so the one option Clay County had was to turn Farmer loose. They literally told him to get it and go on all of those late possessions. What do you want? To run a play within the system with 2 minutes left down 12? I've seen the Tigers play well as a team at times and then other times when a couple players have carried the load. That's basketball, not all 8 in the rotation are going to be on every single night. That's why you have a guy like Trey Farmer as a backup plan, one that almost worked.

[UKCC]

Clay County has lost the first game of January almost every single year of the Robert Marcum era. Once they lost the second game. It was usually Wayne County. I'm not a fan of scheduling quality opponents after Christmas and after these tournaments. Why not get a tune-up before the WYMT? This happens every single year, relax.

[64SUR]

Sometimes a loss does a team good. Clay hasn't played very well since they came back from Vegas but they were still doing just good enough to get wins. Playing good enough to get the win but not good basketball is like playing with fire. It'll get you eventually. Boyle County is a good team. A loss in the first week of January doesn't make or break a team's season but it can be a great motivator.

I remember Williamsburg last year winning 17 games a roll. Then they lost 3 of the next 4 games and everybody said they was done. WRONG...Sometimes teams will run into a Burn out stage I think Clay is in that stage right now. Should rebound back quick Tuesday night against Knott County Central this could be that bad week. Just saying :ChairHit::popcorn::popcorn:

[JeanClaudeVanGraham]

I remember Williamsburg last year winning 17 games a roll. Then they lost 3 of the next 4 games and everybody said they was done. WRONG...Sometimes teams will run into a Burn out stage I think Clay is in that stage right now. Should rebound back quick Tuesday night against Knott County Central this could be that bad week. Just saying :ChairHit::popcorn::popcorn:

I think you're spot on 64. Teams usually hit a wall and I believe Clay has. I also agree about this being a tough week. They're guaranteed to play Knott Central on the road which isn't easy even if Knott is down. Then they'll play either Perry Central or Lawrence County in the consolation game or the semi-finals. Both are good teams that will be in the conversation for a trip to Rupp in their respective regions.

[callmecrazy33]

To be honest, there's not a coach in the country, down double digits with 2 minutes to go, going to say, "Let's see what our 3rd or 4th options can do." Clay County had one choice at that point, let the one player that can do that go to work. Now, as for the entire game, our shots just were not falling. The shots Blake Smith was taking were what he does every single night. He got blocked a few times early and that could have made him think about things but in the second half, he got open quite a bit and the ball still would not stay in. Nights like this happen, it's early January. Relax.

Was this really a shock in people's minds? Two one-loss teams that are traditionally good? It does not shock me. Clay County is good but did some of you all really rank us top-10 or something? I feel as though both of these teams are top 25 quality.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but the Clay faithful and family members has been the ones putting them on here as favorites this, and favorites that. Even saw someone saying they would make a push at state, and comparing themselves to UK, as far as people getting up to play them. I say let it all play out, and come tournament time it will sort itself out.