[StrayBullet]

Is this the worst hold now in WWE? The upper lock around the head is so weak and obvious. Steve Austin mentioned to Cena months ago about tighten up the lock around the head. The STF on Rusev before WrestleMania on RAW was really nice but it seems he has gone back to that loose forearm lock on the head that nobody buys.

[zaga_fan]

It's no worse than the Accolade.
To be honest, the best submissions in the business belong to the divas.

[StrayBullet]

It's no worse than the Accolade.
To be honest, the best submissions in the business belong to the divas.

To me the Accolade at least looks more legit and painful than the STF by Cena. The hold he put on Rusev to encourage Lana to agree to the match at WrestleMania was what I would expect the STF to really look like. The "YES" lock by Bryan and the "STF" by Cena are terrible to me. Then again, I'm a huge fan of "Sister Abigails Kiss" by Wyatt but Im a huge Wyatt fan.

The best hold by any current DIVA just retired too

[zaga_fan]

Sasha Banks has some good stuff.

I expect her to come up soon.

[StrayBullet]

To further the conversation, as much as my father (R.I.P) loved Roman Reigns I just cant see the big push for him. To me its either going to end up to one of three people possibly four. Lesnar, Rollins, Orton or Wyatt. I expect a major push for Wyatt after this past WrestleMania and the positive feedback he got.

[Mr. Pike Central]

No, Naomi has the worst move in the WWE currently.

Using her butt. Smh.

[StrayBullet]

Naomi's "Rear View" is pretty bad lol

[Stardust]

It's no worse than a Shawn Michaels Superkick that misses by feet. It's funny that Stone Cold would say ANYTHING when using his stunner, he would miss the head completely in 25% of them! I need need it to look perfect. Damn guys, it's a work! Do we really need to be convinced?????

If you want to watch Stiff and Tight (not porn), then watch New Japan, that will give you your feel for "realism".