[RunItUpTheGut]

I just had a thought.....

With the Michigan Job search not going the way they want, meaning they prolly aren't getting Harbaugh or Miles, what if they actually do pick up Stoops?

They said one of there main goals was to get a guy who could recruit Ohio.

Also, it makes me wonder if this may be the reason Harris has pushed back his commitment date. He was originally going to commit this weekend, but has pushed it back until January.

Wouldn't it be something if Stoops left for Michigan and was able to get Harris to go with him to a place Harris originally committed to but dropped after they sucked?

[Axel Foley]

That would be surprising to me, that they would hire Mark Stoops. It could happen, I guess. We will see.

[Black Bear Cuz]

IMO there is no way their search leads them to Mark Stoops? I feel for the program if that's the best they can do! That is not as big a knock on Stoops as it may sound, I just believe the kind of storied history they have they will surely be able to hire a coach that has a proven winning record as a head coach.....

[Real Badman]

Well I agree with that statement, until I saw what Nebraska did. They hired a coach who in ever sense of the word is a nobody.

[honestjchsfan]

I just had a thought.....

With the Michigan Job search not going the way they want, meaning they prolly aren't getting Harbaugh or Miles, what if they actually do pick up Stoops?

They said one of there main goals was to get a guy who could recruit Ohio.

Also, it makes me wonder if this may be the reason Harris has pushed back his commitment date. He was originally going to commit this weekend, but has pushed it back until January.

Wouldn't it be something if Stoops left for Michigan and was able to get Harris to go with him to a place Harris originally committed to but dropped after they sucked?

If Stoops left for the Michigan job and I was the Kentucky AD I would promote Vince Marrow to head coach. I think he is the KEY recruiter in the state of Ohio and I think he could keep most of the recruits from jumping ship. I also think he has the skills to be a head coach. He would need to hire a OC and keep the staff in place and IMO things would be fine. The only thing Stoops has done better than Joker is recruit and Marrow is the main reason why.

[Brooks4Prez]

Well I agree with that statement, until I saw what Nebraska did. They hired a coach who in ever sense of the word is a nobody.

Wouldn't say Riley is a nobody. He had some really really good teams at Oregon State and recruited far beyond reasonable expectations there.

[Fromthebleachers]

Why Harris is actually considering UK when he can literally pick anywhere he wants to go that will contend for a national championship is puzzling. Stoops to Michigan? Really.....based on what? He is recruiting well...granted, but nine other SEC programs are recruiting better.

[Brooks4Prez]

Why Harris is actually considering UK when he can literally pick anywhere he wants to go that will contend for a national championship is puzzling. Stoops to Michigan? Really.....based on what? He is recruiting well...granted, but nine other SEC programs are recruiting better.

If Harris were not an in state recruit it would be more shocking. But considering he is seeing more of the buzz around how well Stoops is recruiting and the potential for the program to really turn around its really not as surprising. I think that the fact that he has made so many visits, been recruited by the best of the best in the SEC and elsewhere, and is still considering Kentucky is a great sign. Very indicative to me that what Stoops is doing in recruiting is selling kids on a big turnaround for UK and it must be a convincing pitch. Harris is a smart kid if he didn't really believe Kentucky could do something great by the time he graduates then he wouldn't be considering them.

[Fromthebleachers]

Granted Stoops is recruiting good.... .but greatness and national championships....no. Nine teams in the SEC are recruiting better. Four or five of them way better. The culture in Lexington is never going to change. Count how many SEC teams are in the top 25 in football. Then count how many teams in the SEC are in the top 25 in basketball. You will get the picture.

[Brooks4Prez]

Granted Stoops is recruiting good.... .but greatness and national championships....no. Nine teams in the SEC are recruiting better. Four or five of them way better. The culture in Lexington is never going to change. Count how many SEC teams are in the top 25 in football. Then count how many teams in the SEC are in the top 25 in basketball. You will get the picture.

South Carolina never had much more success than Kentucky traditionally, now they compete in the SEC with, normally, 8-9 wins a year. Don't understand the basketball reference, other than maybe that UK doesn't fund football like they do hoops. But I think that is definitely been proven false in the last two years.

[Fromthebleachers]

UK isn't South Carolina. South Carolina doesn't have that elephant in the room.....plus they hired one of the top college football coaches in the country. I'm not hung up on the star system but it has its merits. And the big boys of the SEC load up with the better players. Again, until the environment changes in BBN you will not see any consisentcy.

[Brooks4Prez]

UK isn't South Carolina. South Carolina doesn't have that elephant in the room.....plus they hired one of the top college football coaches in the country. I'm not hung up on the star system but it has its merits. And the big boys of the SEC load up with the better players. Again, until the environment changes in BBN you will not see any consisentcy.

I do agree with this but I would definitely argue that it is changing quite a bit. What people fail to realize is that UK did have a good environment and atmosphere around it for a long time despite losing. After Rich Brooks when we started to feel a lot of momentum being pumped into the program UK failed on 2 fronts.
1. They didn't explore stadium and facility upgrades that Brooks begged for for years.
2. They didn't try to make a better head coaching hire than Joker Philips.

[Fromthebleachers]

Brooks took UK to its ceiling. Six, seven wins tops, the occasional upset and a minor bowl game. Facilities isn't the problem. To date......10 SEC teams have recruited better than UK. And UK has a good class. It would be eleven but Florida is lagging way behind. I pulled up Catspause on the day of the UK/U of L game and what's on the front page....basketball? One of the biggest football games on the schedule and they are talking basketball. Stoops has a lot to overcome. I think he is doing a good job of getting talent. And look what he is up against in the SEC. There is not a single team right now ranked in the top 25 in basketball right now other than UK. Football is king. I would think Florida will get back there but the SEC should be better. Right now....they are still in football mode. Things got to change in BBN.

[Do-double-gg]

Brooks took UK to its ceiling. Six, seven wins tops, the occasional upset and a minor bowl game. Facilities isn't the problem. To date......10 SEC teams have recruited better than UK. And UK has a good class. It would be eleven but Florida is lagging way behind. I pulled up Catspause on the day of the UK/U of L game and what's on the front page....basketball? One of the biggest football games on the schedule and they are talking basketball. Stoops has a lot to overcome. I think he is doing a good job of getting talent. And look what he is up against in the SEC. There is not a single team right now ranked in the top 25 in basketball right now other than UK. Football is king. I would think Florida will get back there but the SEC should be better. Right now....they are still in football mode. Things got to change in BBN.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but here is a fact. In this country and every state and city you have more football fans then any other sport. I would say you have a lot of people who follow UK basketball because they win and it's exciting. People have just been burnt out by bad football teams at UK for years and years. If UK starts to win in football then people will be just as excited for that as they are for basketball. I promise you that we have more football fans then basketball fans or people who like football just a little better then basketball in Kentucky just like anywhere else, but they just haven't had anything to get excited about in years with this football team. Just take a look at the attendance for highschool football games compared to basketball in Kentucky. I just hope people give Stoops the time to get things right because he inherited a mess of a team with a Conference USA roster trying to play in the SEC and we had a few that I don't think could even cut it in Conference USA. It's not some magic SEC football dust that gets sprinkled on teams like Alabama or Auburn that makes em good every year, it's coaching and talent. I think we have the coach and he is tweaking his staff and he is working on the talent which is better then Kentucky has had in a long time IMO.

[Brooks4Prez]

Brooks took UK to its ceiling. Six, seven wins tops, the occasional upset and a minor bowl game. Facilities isn't the problem. To date......10 SEC teams have recruited better than UK. And UK has a good class. It would be eleven but Florida is lagging way behind. I pulled up Catspause on the day of the UK/U of L game and what's on the front page....basketball? One of the biggest football games on the schedule and they are talking basketball. Stoops has a lot to overcome. I think he is doing a good job of getting talent. And look what he is up against in the SEC. There is not a single team right now ranked in the top 25 in basketball right now other than UK. Football is king. I would think Florida will get back there but the SEC should be better. Right now....they are still in football mode. Things got to change in BBN.

They won eight games twice but who is counting anyway right? :biglmao:

[Fromthebleachers]

Eight games when UK beat Florida State in the Banjo Bowl.....with FSU having suspended 30 plus players and the Kragthorpe coaching at U of L. The U of L game is not a lock as you well know. But you already missed my point.

[FanofThegame12]

I know you are a U of L fan and I'm not going to disagree with everything you've said. But, every program starts somewhere. Lets not forget KY had Bear Bryant, we could've been a football school but things didn't happen that way. We're trying to get the football program worked up. Our basketball is the best no matter what you say. Enthusiasm for football is coming back. To say we had hit our ceiling isn't true. It takes time folks to get to be a consistent competitor. No I don't expect KY to win the east every year because it can't happen but I do want to see them be a lot more competitive and win more games. It's college football so you never know. To think we could've ever competed recruiting wise with Bama, Ohio St., and others I would've laughed but it's happening. And idk if you haven't paid attention but things are changing in the BBN. Commonwealth is under renovation, and other facilities are being and have been upgraded. I'll tell you one thing, talent wise we will have a very good roster next year. We may be young but the talent is SEC caliber. Look out U of L