[mysonis55]

Every year people get on here and complain about the watered down 6 class system causing blowouts at the championships. I feel like making the famous quote of the Gladiator, Russell Crowe, "Are you not entertained".

1a is a 1 point OT game
2a is the biggest blowout at 26-0
3a is a 7 point game
4a is a 7 point game
5a is a 7 point game
6a yet to be decided.

[E's Army]

Very competitive games

[RunItUpTheGut]

I enjoyed this years games. Very competitive and very fun. Ive got a feeling 6A may end up being the worst but who knows.
I don't think its been like this before. Most years there are several blowouts.

Good parity this year.

[Scotty_Bronson]

Love seeing these tight games. I still think that 5 classes and only letting the top 2 teams in, would be just right and make some of the early games more competitive, but for this alignmet, these classes, this season, it was and has been about as good as it could be.

[Panther Thunder]

The finals were great. the finals are not the problem always, all the other rounds take a hit.

[Real Badman]

6 classes are stupid. Anyone who thinks other wise is also stupid. The end.

[samson81]

6 classes are stupid. Anyone who thinks other wise is also stupid. The end.

I wouldn't quite go that far. While it's true that this year's finals were largely competetive, there will always be tight games and blowouts, regardless of the number of classes. Personally, I preferred the old 4 class system and didn't see any need for expansion. 4 classes and the top two in each district make the playoffs, shortening it by a round. I like the idea of breeding as much competition as possible. Every team shouldn't make the playoffs,IMO. Give the programs that don't make the playoffs every year something realistic to shoot for. It would make qualifying for the playoffs truly mean something again.

Having said all of that, you're right 55, this years finals have been great. Perhaps the best of the 6 class era. Of course, as I'm typing this, Trinity is beating Dixie's brains out.

[baseball1974]

I think basketball and baseball would give anything just to have two classes, let alone six of them.

[Granny Bear]

I don't care how many classes there are! I just saw my first state tournament and watched 4 out of the 6 games. Had a blast this weekend!! Saw some old friends, met some new friends and saw some wonderful games!

[foxbatone]

6 classes would be good if there was 10 more schools in each class, but the 4 class system with four teams making it to the playoffs was not perfect it is probably the best, any two playoffs system is ridiculous. My point is a 9-1 or 8-2 team could miss playoffs, I would not like to be the Coach to tell his team that because of a tie breaker system they missed the playoffs.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Per the numbers of KY high schools, Five classes would be the best route.....BY FAR.

I have no problem with the current construction of the playoffs, and neither do the schools. They are the ones who vote for it

[pjdoug]

6 classes are stupid. Anyone who thinks other wise is also stupid. The end.

that was a stupid thing to say :ChairHit:

[pjdoug]

I don't care how many classes there are! I just saw my first state tournament and watched 4 out of the 6 games. Had a blast this weekend!! Saw some old friends, met some new friends and saw some wonderful games!

its an awesome experience ain't it?

[Real Badman]

that was a stupid thing to say :ChairHit:

Because I believe in earning your success? 6 class system is a failure. There is ZERO reason a team that is 0-10 should ever make the playoffs.

[Scotty_Bronson]

Number of classes shouldnt have any affect on who makes the playoffs.

[MountainSports]

I think there should be 5 classes.

[Bigblue78]

Because I believe in earning your success? 6 class system is a failure. There is ZERO reason a team that is 0-10 should ever make the playoffs.

Why do people have such a difficult time understanding that the number of classes has very little bearing on whether or not a winless team makes the playoffs?
You could have just 4 classes, and if you allow 4 teams from each district into the playoffs you will still get some teams making it that are 0-10 or 1-9. Conversly. you could have 10 classes and only allow the top 2 teams in each district into the playoffs they will all be worthy.
The issue with bad teams making the playoffs and getting blown out is a result of letting the 3rd and 4th place teams into the playoffs, period.
You want to see better games and a shorter playoff? Keep the 6 classes and just let the top two from each district in.

[RunItUpTheGut]

Because I believe in earning your success? 6 class system is a failure. There is ZERO reason a team that is 0-10 should ever make the playoffs.

It is the schools that voted for it....


Football has the least amount of game action as any sport.
Only 10 regular season games. I have no problem with bad teams making the playoffs, and I guarantee you the kids blowing them love those games.
So with that said, what is the best route? what is your opinion?

If you shorten the playoffs by only taking the top 2 teams of each district, it takes off a week of playoff action. Do you go ahead and make the regular season 1 more game or do you simply cancel 1 week of football each year for a sport that only gets 10 games anyways?

[pjdoug]

Because I believe in earning your success? 6 class system is a failure. There is ZERO reason a team that is 0-10 should ever make the playoffs.

I agree with that 100%:Thumbs:

[Hoot Gibson]

The bottom line is that Indiana allows every team into the playoffs and crowned state champions in 6 classes. Kentucky crowned state champions in 6 classes, and those state champions would have been the same whether or not only half as many teams had been eligible for the playoff and they probably would have been the same if Kentucky had used the same system as Indiana uses.

I really do not understand why it bothers some people so much that 0-10 teams make the playoffs. Does anybody believe that the players on those teams are proud to be in the playoffs, despite their winless records? How is allowing more football players play more games a bad thing?

The important thing is that the best team in each class at the end of the season has a fair chance to claim the state title in their respective class. Indiana's system works and Kentucky's system works. Once you start excluding more teams from the playoffs, you run the risk of excluding the best team in a class at the end of the regular season. More importantly, you are widening the gap between the amount of football that good teams play versus the football that players on bad teams get to play. In restrictive playoff systems, the rich get richer because their young players enjoy a big edge in experience.

I like systems like Indiana has because a team like Indianapolis Cathedral can schedule bigger, better teams early, start their season 0-4 and still win state titles if they have the best team at the end of the season.

[Real Badman]

It is the schools that voted for it....


Football has the least amount of game action as any sport.
Only 10 regular season games. I have no problem with bad teams making the playoffs, and I guarantee you the kids blowing them love those games.
So with that said, what is the best route? what is your opinion?

If you shorten the playoffs by only taking the top 2 teams of each district, it takes off a week of playoff action. Do you go ahead and make the regular season 1 more game or do you simply cancel 1 week of football each year for a sport that only gets 10 games anyways?

There is nothing we as fans can do to increase the competition in certain schools. Phelps will probably never have another winning season in its history. Sad, but true probability. However there is no reason whatsoever that they make the playoffs with a 0-9-1 record. There is no benefit for them to travel to Raceland, and get beat 66-0. There is no benefit for Raceland. There is no benefit for the Pike County Board of Education, especially when they averagely have to do the same for East Ridge, Phelps, Shelby Valley (excluding this year), and Pike Central (for the early years). Personally, I like the old 4 class system. You had much more competition in the earlier rounds of the playoffs instead of Mayfield winning the first 4 games by 30+. Yeah, they may beat the 4 seed, but you cant change that unless you only take the 1-2 seeds out of every district.

I reference back to 2006, 1A-4-7/8:

7-1 (9-5) Somerset 41
7-4 (7-4) Cumberland 14

7-2 (8-4) Harlan 42
7-3 (7-4) Williamsburg 36

8-1 (8-4) Pikeville 44
8-4 (4-7) Jenkins 0

8-2 (9-4) Hazard 27
8-3 (5-6) Paintsville 21 OT

Schools not making the playoffs;
District 7:
Evarts, 2-8; Pineville, 3-7; Lynn Camp, 3-7.
District 8:
Phelps, 2-8; South Floyd, 3-7; Allen Central 3-7.

Now, yeah the Somerset and Pikeville games are going to happen unless you play 1-2 seed playoff games. But the other games were quite competitive.

Lets look at how that region took shape this year:

7-1 (11-3) Hazard 69
8-4 (0-9-1) Phelps 0

8-2 (5-6) South Floyd 32
7-3 (7-5) Fairview 48

7-2 (10-3) Paintsville 41
8-3 (3-8) Allen Central 8

8-1 (11-1) Pikeville 51
7-4 (2-9) Nicholas County 0

Schools not making the playoffs:
District 7:
None
District 8:
None

There was one close game (that probably shouldn't have) in that stretch of the playoffs. With that in front of my face I can't see it beneficial to anybody. It's always nice to have an extra week of football practice, but what good does it do for a school to go get their brains beat out and spend district money?

[footballfever]

I do think only 32-42 teams to win a state championship is to few but I also think it gives several teams hope at beginning of year. I would love to see playoffs switched to top 2 teams make playoffs. Have class 1A-6A championships on Thanksgiving week then have 1A vs 2A, 3A vs 4A and 5A vs 6A week after thanksgiving for lets call it Div I, II and III championships. :Thumbs: or :please:

[Cardfan1]

Trinity wouldn't have been in this year in 2 team system.

[Fly Like a Duck]

6 classes are stupid. Anyone who thinks other wise is also stupid. The end.

:thatsfunn

I still hate it, too.

[EKUAlum05]

The problem isn't the number of Classes... but moreso the First Round playoff games typically between the 1 vs. 4 seeds. The State Champs probably would have been the exact same except Belfry finishes as a Runner-Up to DeSales in 2A and Pulaski doesn't make it past the Semi-Finals against Highlands in 3A.

I still say only let the top two teams per District get in and shorten the playoffs by a Week.

It's obvious from this weekend a good brand of football is being played in the Finals, but the criticisms continue to be about the First Round blowouts, the 0-10 and 1-9 team getting in, and weather concerns from playing in December.

With two teams per District the regular season (and for that matter non-district scheduling) means even more with the threat of a 3-way tie, you get more competitive First Round Games, and the Finals fall on the weekend after Thanksgiving.

I think this will substantially improve attendance, especially for the Friday games, since most people will have the day off. You also have more people "home for the holiday" who would be more apt to attend.

When was the last time a 3 seed or 4 seed even competed for a State Title, let alone won it?

[Real Badman]

^ 2014 Louisville Trinity was the 3 seed

[EKUAlum05]

^ 2014 Louisville Trinity was the 3 seed

HAHA well you blew that theory out of the water real quick

[baseball1974]

^ 2014 Louisville Trinity was the 3 seed

That's a little misleading though. Trinity plays in a district with Louisville Male, DuPont Manual, and Saint Xavier. With the exception of Saint Xavier losing a fluke game to bowling green 6-0 where Saint Xavier took everything to bowling green except for their offense, all of the losses from in-state schools came against each other. The only in-state games Trinity had were the district games. DuPont Manual was the worst team in this district, and yet their only losses the entire year were three district games and a playoff loss to district foe Saint Xavier 12-7. This is an example of why all four teams need to be in the playoffs. Any one of these teams could've won the 6A state title this year.

[RAM-A-DEVIL]

I think its watered down from the backend not the front end. To many useless 1st round games.

[Tommy2tone]

I got no problems with 6 classes. Most districts have 4 teams in them some more and a couple less. My problem is that first weekend of playoffs. Lets cut it down to top 2 teams making playoffs and finish the season thanksgiving weekend. Kids are already out of school and mom and pops are usually off those weekends.