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Lawrence Co. @ Belfry 3rd Round Regional Championship
#61
I'll take the pirates in this one. Belfry 35 LC 28. LC has had a great season.
#62
Jimdog Wrote:@Josey You seem to know about the sauce so r u giving out freebies? I don't think belfry is fully healthy and I think they r looking past LC like some of the fans r. LC by 10


I think that's alot of wishful thinking. Guess we'll find out Friday.....

BTW....I've never touched the stuff......
#63
I think after the Pirates embarrassing first half performance against LC they will come out fired up. Corbett will be back at QB this week so our depth at the HB positions is getting a deeper, already to deep for LC to contain it.

Belfry 42
LC 21
#64
Timing. Execution. Pass Rush. Emotion.

Timing- How will Belfry's timing be with Corbett back and the first complete backfield since Week 1? LC did a really good job the first matchup of creating penetration right up over Center. If the timing isn't there LC could force some big TFL's and maybe even some turnovers.

Execution- Along the same lines, the Belfry offense hasn't executed well in a loooong time. Penalties, busted plays, and taking big plays off the board. Defensively, keep Dalton in front of you. Blown coverage = 6 points. If LC can consistently keep Belfry in 3rd and 5+ they have a puncher's chance. Limit the big playand make Belfry beat you with 12 play or more drives.

Pass Rush- The game turned the last time when Belfry dialed up pressure and Ray Horton went beast mode.Belfry's defensive quickness will give the LC run game fits...and LC's hopes lies firmly on defensive stops, maintaining balance, and hitting the occasional home run. If Belfry can pressure Kiser and force him to throw on the run and improvise versuses plays with timing routes or well designed deep routes.... Belfry's chances drastically improve. If LC can protect Kiser where he can plant his feet and hit Dalton and Lambert to move the sticks LC will be in it late.

Emotion- LC is a different team when they are playing confident and with a chip.. a much different team. The team for the majority of the First Half is the team they need for 4 Quarters emotionally. LC CAN beat this Belfry team... but they have to do so by simply playing perfect and focused for 4 Quarters and needing Belfry to stub their toe a few times. It seemed when Belfry got momentum and a couple breaks didn't go their way that LC mentally went from invincible to exposed and Belfry just grinded them into submission to end the game. It is very important for hoever wants to win this to set the tone at kickoff and at the end of the Half.
#65
As for prediction...

I think this one plays out similar to the first game in terms of Final Score..but think how we get there looks different. Instead of LC jumping out early and Belfry closing hard... I think we see a tight game for 3 Quarters with back and forth that Belfry just seals up late because they have too many playmakers playing at home.

Belfry 35
LC 21

Pirates put together a gut punching 4th Quarter drive to extend a one score game then get a defensive stand to ice it.
#66
Timing/execution - will be an issue. Agree 100% EKU.

You have to consider the good part of all the injuries though. Willis nor Corbett will have to play both ways in light of having Catron back and the emergence of Devin Varney. You can now rotate Taylor, Willis, and Catron at RB.

I could be wrong, but I like Belfry pretty comfortably.

Belfry: 41
LC: 14
#67
So here is the 10,000.00 Question this week:

Where will Keaton Taylor line up to start the game?
HB platooning along with Willis and Catron?
SE.. his natural position where he was a star last year but has not played a down there this season?
QB where has spent the majority of the season and was the starter at the start of the year?
Does he only play CB focusing solely on Dalton who really was the only LC player to hrt Belfry earlier?


Me personally... I think Belfry's optimal lineup is QB Corbett HB1 Willis HB2 Catron FB Hatfield SE Taylor. This makes them the most dangerous, the most dynamic, and gets your best blocking HB (Catron) in the game time as your best open field blocker (Taylor)

I think Belfry's Championship chances are best increased with the threat of the quick pass with Taylor at SE like last year. Without Taylor catching the short pass against Bourbon I am not sure that game plays out the way it did and with the potential of South Warren or Central down the road I think it has to be in your arsenal to keep them honest.
I also like the idea of Taylor subbing Willis when Belfry goes Double Tight.
#68
EKUAlum05 Wrote:So here is the 10,000.00 Question this week:

Where will Keaton Taylor line up to start the game?
HB platooning along with Willis and Catron?
SE.. his natural position where he was a star last year but has not played a down there this season?
QB where has spent the majority of the season and was the starter at the start of the year?
Does he only play CB focusing solely on Dalton who really was the only LC player to hrt Belfry earlier?


Me personally... I think Belfry's optimal lineup is QB Corbett HB1 Willis HB2 Catron FB Hatfield SE Taylor. This makes them the most dangerous, the most dynamic, and gets your best blocking HB (Catron) in the game time as your best open field blocker (Taylor)

I think Belfry's Championship chances are best increased with the threat of the quick pass with Taylor at SE like last year. Without Taylor catching the short pass against Bourbon I am not sure that game plays out the way it did and with the potential of South Warren or Central down the road I think it has to be in your arsenal to keep them honest.
I also like the idea of Taylor subbing Willis when Belfry goes Double Tight.
You're spot on EKU. Forward that to coach. Lol
#69
EKUAlum05 Wrote:So here is the 10,000.00 Question this week:

Where will Keaton Taylor line up to start the game?
HB platooning along with Willis and Catron?
SE.. his natural position where he was a star last year but has not played a down there this season?
QB where has spent the majority of the season and was the starter at the start of the year?
Does he only play CB focusing solely on Dalton who really was the only LC player to hrt Belfry earlier?


Me personally... I think Belfry's optimal lineup is QB Corbett HB1 Willis HB2 Catron FB Hatfield SE Taylor. This makes them the most dangerous, the most dynamic, and gets your best blocking HB (Catron) in the game time as your best open field blocker (Taylor)

I think Belfry's Championship chances are best increased with the threat of the quick pass with Taylor at SE like last year. Without Taylor catching the short pass against Bourbon I am not sure that game plays out the way it did and with the potential of South Warren or Central down the road I think it has to be in your arsenal to keep them honest.
I also like the idea of Taylor subbing Willis when Belfry goes Double Tight.

Good analysis.

I definitely like Corbett @ QB. Gives the entire offense a different level of "shiftiness" that's much needed. Very good passer when called to do so. IMO, having Catron, as well as Willis back healthy is paramount for the Belfry offense however.

Belfry will take care of business Friday....and I honestly think they'll do so in typical Pirate fashion.
#70
belfry by 3 or 4 td's
#71
OutlawJoseyWales Wrote:Good analysis.

I definitely like Corbett @ QB. Gives the entire offense a different level of "shiftiness" that's much needed. Very good passer when called to do so. IMO, having Catron, as well as Willis back healthy is paramount for the Belfry offense however.

Belfry will take care of business Friday....and I honestly think they'll do so in typical Pirate fashion.

I think so too. I think it will be a heavy dose of Hatfield and if they try to stop him then the outside runs and QB keeper will be open.
#72
I think the pirate ship stops sailing this Friday. 3 yards and a cloud of dust is over. If LC can force Belfry to play from behind and take the run game away, LC will be fine. Last game LC really laid the smack down early on. I think if LC comes to play and hits like they did the first game and gets the lead early Belfry will be in for a long night. GO DAWGS!!!!

LC with the shocker.

LC 28
BELFRY 7
#73
BillyRay Wrote:I think the pirate ship stops sailing this Friday. 3 yards and a cloud of dust is over. If LC can force Belfry to play from behind and take the run game away, LC will be fine. Last game LC really laid the smack down early on. I think if LC comes to play and hits like they did the first game and gets the lead early Belfry will be in for a long night. GO DAWGS!!!!

LC with the shocker.

LC 28
BELFRY 7

Shows that you don't know much about Belfry football. They are a big play running team. Not three yards and a cloud of dust, but if that is how they have to win then they will. No way LC has the studs to hold Belfry to 7 points.
#74
Belfry rolls through this one making it clear to everyone that they are taking another state championship home
#75
BillyRay Wrote:I think the pirate ship stops sailing this Friday. 3 yards and a cloud of dust is over. If LC can force Belfry to play from behind and take the run game away, LC will be fine. Last game LC really laid the smack down early on. I think if LC comes to play and hits like they did the first game and gets the lead early Belfry will be in for a long night. GO DAWGS!!!!

LC with the shocker.

LC 28
BELFRY 7

Just a stat. Before the last Pike Central game Belfry averaged 7.6 yards/carry and I am sure that number went up a little bit after the game this past Friday. So no 3 yards and a cloud of dust for the Big Red.
#76
BillyRay Wrote:I think the pirate ship stops sailing this Friday. 3 yards and a cloud of dust is over. If LC can force Belfry to play from behind and take the run game away, LC will be fine. Last game LC really laid the smack down early on. I think if LC comes to play and hits like they did the first game and gets the lead early Belfry will be in for a long night. GO DAWGS!!!!

LC with the shocker.

LC 28
BELFRY 7
Reverse that score and it sounds more believeable.
#77
coach haywood wins another one.
#78
I can't remember who it was. But someone from Belfry told me the next time we play at Belfry they are gonna buy me a Hot Chocolate. So pay up Pirates!!!! May the best team win and whoever wins I hope and rooting to bring a State Championship back to the Mountains!!!!
#79
KyRock Wrote:I can't remember who it was. But someone from Belfry told me the next time we play at Belfry they are gonna buy me a Hot Chocolate. So pay up Pirates!!!! May the best team win and whoever wins I hope and rooting to bring a State Championship back to the Mountains!!!!
It wasn't me but hey, I'll be the one wearing red. Find me and I'll buy ya one. Lol.
#80
I don't know how everyone else feels but I think this game,with these 2 teams, has so many x factors that it's baffling. Both teams have had good games and bad games, times of flawless execution and times of looking like a sloppy mess. Just on this game thread alone you have so many people bringing up so many variables on what each team must do. I can't remember a match up between 2 teams with so many unknowns. How is Belfry's health? How fast can the returning starters get their stride back and honestly be 100%? Can they keep LC's deep ball in check? Can they clean up their game and not kill themselves with big penalties? From the LC perspective..... can the Dawgs match up physically the whole game? Can they match score for score? Slow down the run game? ect ect. Even using the earlier match up doesn't really help much. Lc should have had a td lead going into halftime with the ball but instead let Belfry get behind them for a big pass play when it should have been obvious they were gonna take a deep shot. Belfry did have quite a few turnovers but I think mostly due to having some younger players having to step up in a big time game and was taking some hard shots. That is rough for seasoned player on the road but for a young player would be even harder. With their starting backs returning I think the ball handling should be better. Sorry to drag this all out so long but I have drove myself crazy working this game out in my mind. Bottom line....game plan for beating Belfry? Gonna simply have to outplay them lol. dunno what else to say about it. :pondering:
#81
Thats one thing I can say about Belfry I love their School Colors. I will be wearing Red to and a touch of Black. Confusednicker: Would love to meet and talk with some Belfry Folk.
#82
0ff The Chain Wrote:I don't know how everyone else feels but I think this game,with these 2 teams, has so many x factors that it's baffling. Both teams have had good games and bad games, times of flawless execution and times of looking like a sloppy mess. Just on this game thread alone you have so many people bringing up so many variables on what each team must do. I can't remember a match up between 2 teams with so many unknowns. How is Belfry's health? How fast can the returning starters get their stride back and honestly be 100%? Can they keep LC's deep ball in check? Can they clean up their game and not kill themselves with big penalties? From the LC perspective..... can the Dawgs match up physically the whole game? Can they match score for score? Slow down the run game? ect ect. Even using the earlier match up doesn't really help much. Lc should have had a td lead going into halftime with the ball but instead let Belfry get behind them for a big pass play when it should have been obvious they were gonna take a deep shot. Belfry did have quite a few turnovers but I think mostly due to having some younger players having to step up in a big time game and was taking some hard shots. That is rough for seasoned player on the road but for a young player would be even harder. With their starting backs returning I think the ball handling should be better. Sorry to drag this all out so long but I have drove myself crazy working this game out in my mind. Bottom line....game plan for beating Belfry? Gonna simply have to outplay them lol. dunno what else to say about it. :pondering:

One thing we can expect is Belfry to be physical and tough as always. Can LC win? I think they can but they are going to have to play a perfect game and not turn the ball over. I always support LC but also have to be realistic if they don't bring it. They will get their ***** handed to them and Season over.
#83
Folks east of I75 don't have any idea of what physical football is.:HitWall:
#84
jim rome Wrote:Folks east of I75 don't have any idea of what physical football is.:HitWall:
Belfry 28 Southwestern 7...the evidence suggests that folks east of I75 know exactly what physical football is. :biglmao:
#85
With a healthy defensive line this time it won't be close. Belfry with a running clock.
#86
Having our two starting safeties back will be big in this game. Catron, IMO, more than Edwards because this kid will make his presence known early with some big hits on the recievers crossing the middle. That is something our secondary has been missing all year.
Our backfield benefits tremendously with back there as well. He blocks well, he moves and he's a hard nosed runner.

I'm not sure who will start at QB, but either way it goes, Taylor will have a huge impact on the game either from QB,HB or SE. Willis was out in the last meeting as well, so our timing was off BAD. I think we had 4 fumbles in that game, I could be wrong. Fumbling that many times and getting that many penalties called kills the momentum. The Pirates came out in the 2nd half more focused and probably a little embarrassed. Corbett made some big plays, and the Oline along with Hatfield wore the defense down. By the end of the game you could tell LC wanted no part of the FB any more.

The defense came out with more fire as well. LC could not run the ball at all, and our Dline pressured the QB every time he dropped back to pass the ball.

These kids know what they have to do to win this game, and I think they will. Our offense will be smoother and more explosive than last game. Our defense won't allow as many big plays as they did last game either. I stated earlier in the thread Belfry wins by 3 TDs and that was being conservative. I'm hoping they make a statement this game and we have a running clock!
#87
KyRock Wrote:Thats one thing I can say about Belfry I love their School Colors. I will be wearing Red to and a touch of Black. Confusednicker: Would love to meet and talk with some Belfry Folk.

Tell you what KyRock...I'm trying my bestest to get to this game! If I do, I will be hanging out by the concession stand and half time in Harlan County Black Bear gear; you won't be able to miss me!! Not only will skully03 buy your hot chocolate, but I'll add a hot dog!!!

Deal??



jim rome Wrote:Folks east of I75 don't have any idea of what physical football is.:HitWall:

Folks east of I-75 know vey well about physical football; perhaps it is YOU that doesn't know!
#88
I'll take the Dawgs.
#89
All I can say is if Paintsville can take down Pikeville then Lawrence can take down Belfrey
#90
Anything is certainly possible. Lawrence Co has some explosive players on offense. The thing that really stands out from the previous game though is the inability of the Dawgs to do anything on the ground other than a wildcats play or two.

Lawrence needs to be productive on first down.

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