[eagles2011]

Pikeville the sun shine on every dog --- once in awhile ,
Luck win over blackcats
Clay sucks
Hazard suck
Belfry played probley the worst game in 5 years and pikeville thinks there number one,

[baseball1974]

May be true, IDK, but a school that sits on the banks of Paint Creek might have a good claim on that too...It will be interesting to see how the JC/ Belfry game pans out..If JC destroys Belfry by the same magnitude as they did last year, what then?...Belfry is probably the only common opponent for each school.


Anyways, congrats to Pikeville on a great win...Of course, JP knows that I always wish Pikeville well.

The only reason I put belfry beating JC this year is because the kid(Young) that did all the damage last year against Belfry graduated. Now the Skaggs kid and the Slone kid can both run too. I could be dead wrong, but if Belfry can pack it in I think they'll beat them.

However, im sure Matney was paying attention to how Pikeville's defense did last week too? I think it'll be decided by a touchdown, but then lies the issue, "is JC better than Pikeville?" If they both beat Belfry by a touchdown I think they should force them to play so BGR can get some answers?

[Big Five-0-]

A few people said that Belfry was flat, is that true. I think that Pikeville is a threat to go to Bowling Green in 1a, but I just don't understand this game.
Belfry flat wore every team to this point out like a very good 6a Henry Clay.
One would think that a championship caliber 3a team would beat a 1a team even if they are a 1a championship team by at least 2 scores even on a bad night. Has the gap in the Mountain classes started to close some. You got Pikeville beating Belfry and Middlesboro beating Bell and...............what the heck is going on.:insane: Congrats to Pikeville and I think the game of the year in the mountains will be when Pikeville and Williamsburg clash. I don't believe for 1 second that this is the same Belfry team who came into this game undefeated.

There was a time when you would see a final score like this in favor of Pikeville, and it was commonplace. Been a long time , no doubt. During the 70's, 80's, and 90's it was back and forth every year, Pikeville could and did compete with Belfry. During the start of the 2000 decade, Pikeville started slipping. I think 01 was the last year Pikeville was victorious. Now Pikeville is striving to get back to the point to where it can compete with the Belfrys of the world. Both sides enjoyed whooping up on each another. The anticipation and excitement was second to none. As mentioned, during the 2000 era, it lost it's luster(the game). Got a feeling though, it's starting to shine again. Good luck to both teams, and hope to see both in BG.

[EKUAlum05]

Having watched replay what continues to stick out to me was that 3rd Quarter.

For anyone wanting to play the "Belfry was flat" card... that 3rd Quarter was the story of the game. Belfry was not flat in the 3rd...in fact they looked like the Belfry team everyone expected. The fact remains Belfry was held scoreless in the 3rd giving Pikeville their best shot.

If anyone wants to make excuses as to why Belfry lost I present that Quarter as evidence that the better team Friday night clearly won. To be honest, Belfry was actually lucky they did not lose by more. Pikeville scored 7 points off Belfry turnovers, but 14 of Belfry's 20 points came as the result of Panther turnovers. In addition, if Pikeville doesn't have a holding call on that first drive in the 4th Quarter...they not only probably avoid an Interception...but they were moving it well enough they probably tag on another score.

Now I am going to give my constructive criticism for Belfry having seen the replay:
- The blocking of the HB's is AWFUL!!!!! For this Belfry offense to work the HB's have to make their blocks and help seal the edge... the effort from the HB's was dismal and missed blocks directly led to about 3 Tackles For Loss.
- Pikeville gave a blueprint to neutralize this Belfry Front 7 everyone was bragging about. Spread the D-Linemen out and cut them down... use misdirection to make the DE's and LB's sit in their tracks trying to read the play. By the time Belfry could get their feet Pikeville had a 3 yard surge or had a quick hitter on the pass... individual effort then gave them bigger yards and conversions. Corners have to get tougher and the LB's and End's have to be more aggressive.
- Passing game as abysmal and non-existent. Belfry has proven you can win without passing, but without the threat of a pass the theory doesn't work. You don't need much to have that... the fear of the quick hitch or a short 10 yard out alone changes the dynamic..right now I don't even have the confidence they can execute that.
- Belfry has played progressively worse each game.
Henry Clay: Total team effort and domination
Harlan County: Total domination, but execution flaws on the option and bad play by the subs
Southwestern: Attrocious penalties negating scores and allowing SW to stay in the game... a lone defensive breakdown.
Pikeville: Well we just saw...

Belfry should have some time to get healthy and work on themselves the next two weeks. Gallia Academy and Sheldon Clark should both be teams Belfry can handle going away. I don't think either game will really tell us anything about Belfry. Someone needs to emerge as a leader...and someone needs to take the HB position as run with it until Catron returns.

[YoFather100]

Don't think belfry will let this decide the rest of their season

[PHSForever]

Having watched replay what continues to stick out to me was that 3rd Quarter.

For anyone wanting to play the "Belfry was flat" card... that 3rd Quarter was the story of the game. Belfry was not flat in the 3rd...in fact they looked like the Belfry team everyone expected. The fact remains Belfry was held scoreless in the 3rd giving Pikeville their best shot.

If anyone wants to make excuses as to why Belfry lost I present that Quarter as evidence that the better team Friday night clearly won. To be honest, Belfry was actually lucky they did not lose by more. Pikeville scored 7 points off Belfry turnovers, but 14 of Belfry's 20 points came as the result of Panther turnovers. In addition, if Pikeville doesn't have a holding call on that first drive in the 4th Quarter...they not only probably avoid an Interception...but they were moving it well enough they probably tag on another score.

Now I am going to give my constructive criticism for Belfry having seen the replay:
- The blocking of the HB's is AWFUL!!!!! For this Belfry offense to work the HB's have to make their blocks and help seal the edge... the effort from the HB's was dismal and missed blocks directly led to about 3 Tackles For Loss.
- Pikeville gave a blueprint to neutralize this Belfry Front 7 everyone was bragging about. Spread the D-Linemen out and cut them down... use misdirection to make the DE's and LB's sit in their tracks trying to read the play. By the time Belfry could get their feet Pikeville had a 3 yard surge or had a quick hitter on the pass... individual effort then gave them bigger yards and conversions. Corners have to get tougher and the LB's and End's have to be more aggressive.
- Passing game as abysmal and non-existent. Belfry has proven you can win without passing, but without the threat of a pass the theory doesn't work. You don't need much to have that... the fear of the quick hitch or a short 10 yard out alone changes the dynamic..right now I don't even have the confidence they can execute that.
- Belfry has played progressively worse each game.
Henry Clay: Total team effort and domination
Harlan County: Total domination, but execution flaws on the option and bad play by the subs
Southwestern: Attrocious penalties negating scores and allowing SW to stay in the game... a lone defensive breakdown.
Pikeville: Well we just saw...

Belfry should have some time to get healthy and work on themselves the next two weeks. Gallia Academy and Sheldon Clark should both be teams Belfry can handle going away. I don't think either game will really tell us anything about Belfry. Someone needs to emerge as a leader...and someone needs to take the HB position as run with it until Catron returns.

I'd have to say this is the most fair analysis I've read. The key is that Pikeville has the athletes and speed to spread the D line of Belfry out, not many teams do. Until Belfry develops a pass threat, the faster and talented upper echelon of 3A will give them fits this year. BUT, if they develop anything resembling a pass threat, their O will return to the dominating force it is meant to be. I expect them to first take out large amounts of frustration on Sheldon Clark next week, then spend the rest of the time trying play actions, possibly splitting Keaton out in the slot with someone more dependable passing (surely in all that depth, someone has an arm?), which would help them run bubble screens, etc. They have the speed with Keaton and Willis to make it work if they can learn to block. But if they want to bring home another title, they will have to do that to beat the Centrals, etc

[Leonidas]

There was a time when you would see a final score like this in favor of Pikeville, and it was commonplace. Been a long time , no doubt. During the 70's, 80's, and 90's it was back and forth every year, Pikeville could and did compete with Belfry. During the start of the 2000 decade, Pikeville started slipping. I think 01 was the last year Pikeville was victorious. Now Pikeville is striving to get back to the point to where it can compete with the Belfrys of the world. Both sides enjoyed whooping up on each another. The anticipation and excitement was second to none. As mentioned, during the 2000 era, it lost it's luster(the game). Got a feeling though, it's starting to shine again. Good luck to both teams, and hope to see both in BG.

If I were a Pikeville alum that truly wanted to see Pikeville back in the limelight I'd start by finding a new middle school coach.

[Bob Seger]

The only reason I put belfry beating JC this year is because the kid(Young) that did all the damage last year against Belfry graduated. Now the Skaggs kid and the Slone kid can both run too. I could be dead wrong, but if Belfry can pack it in I think they'll beat them.

However, im sure Matney was paying attention to how Pikeville's defense did last week too? I think it'll be decided by a touchdown, but then lies the issue, "is JC better than Pikeville?" If they both beat Belfry by a touchdown I think they should force them to play so BGR can get some answers?

I hope I can say this without offending anyone past , present, or future, but it's IMO, more Matney's system than per say "the back".....I think he has given some better than average backs the opportunity to put up some All State type numbers and made some pretty good high school backs put up All American monster numbers over the years...It just seems like there is a never ending pipeline of them...It's one after another after another after another..Again, no offense meant because they have all been good backs and athletes.


I remember 4 or 5 years ago that Hazard had what everyone thought was a powerhouse team, and they played JC at JC that year.... I would think that that Hazard team was probably regarded about as highly as this years Pikeville team too..It ended up being one of the most lopsided games ever played at Eagle field and one of the most dominate games I have seen Central play...The game was basicly over 5 minutes into the game. ..

Remember in '06 when Paintsville had that really good regional runner up team? Anybody remember the score when JC played Paintsville that year?...It was a massacre. Not saying that that would be the case this year if these two played , but I am just saying....And I want to re-emphasize one more time that I am a huge Pikeville fan and supporter away from my support for JC....As well as Belfry for that part...I actually own a business in Belfry, and employ all Belfry people....They are all good folks and passionate about their team too.

[Big Five-0-]

Having watched replay what continues to stick out to me was that 3rd Quarter.

For anyone wanting to play the "Belfry was flat" card... that 3rd Quarter was the story of the game. Belfry was not flat in the 3rd...in fact they looked like the Belfry team everyone expected. The fact remains Belfry was held scoreless in the 3rd giving Pikeville their best shot.

If anyone wants to make excuses as to why Belfry lost I present that Quarter as evidence that the better team Friday night clearly won. To be honest, Belfry was actually lucky they did not lose by more. Pikeville scored 7 points off Belfry turnovers, but 14 of Belfry's 20 points came as the result of Panther turnovers. In addition, if Pikeville doesn't have a holding call on that first drive in the 4th Quarter...they not only probably avoid an Interception...but they were moving it well enough they probably tag on another score.

Now I am going to give my constructive criticism for Belfry having seen the replay:
- The blocking of the HB's is AWFUL!!!!! For this Belfry offense to work the HB's have to make their blocks and help seal the edge... the effort from the HB's was dismal and missed blocks directly led to about 3 Tackles For Loss.
- Pikeville gave a blueprint to neutralize this Belfry Front 7 everyone was bragging about. Spread the D-Linemen out and cut them down... use misdirection to make the DE's and LB's sit in their tracks trying to read the play. By the time Belfry could get their feet Pikeville had a 3 yard surge or had a quick hitter on the pass... individual effort then gave them bigger yards and conversions. Corners have to get tougher and the LB's and End's have to be more aggressive.
- Passing game as abysmal and non-existent. Belfry has proven you can win without passing, but without the threat of a pass the theory doesn't work. You don't need much to have that... the fear of the quick hitch or a short 10 yard out alone changes the dynamic..right now I don't even have the confidence they can execute that.
- Belfry has played progressively worse each game.
Henry Clay: Total team effort and domination
Harlan County: Total domination, but execution flaws on the option and bad play by the subs
Southwestern: Attrocious penalties negating scores and allowing SW to stay in the game... a lone defensive breakdown.
Pikeville: Well we just saw...

Belfry should have some time to get healthy and work on themselves the next two weeks. Gallia Academy and Sheldon Clark should both be teams Belfry can handle going away. I don't think either game will really tell us anything about Belfry. Someone needs to emerge as a leader...and someone needs to take the HB position as run with it until Catron returns.

Imo,your exactly right. After the break, when Belfry came out and was driving the ball down field, I thought to myself....."well, here goes the game". Belfry had new life in the 3rd qtr. Pikeville adjusted, and made the stops. Belfry was not flat,imo. Good and accurate analysis of the game EKUALum05.

[jetpilot]

I don't think you will see any Pikeville fan on here saying Pikeville is better than Johnson Central. Or even P'burg or Belfry or Middlesboro or Russell for that matter. Just looking at the games one at a time and enjoying the ride...:Cheerlead

[bac2369]

Pikeville the sun shine on every dog --- once in awhile ,
Luck win over blackcats
Clay sucks
Hazard suck
Belfry played probley the worst game in 5 years and pikeville thinks there number one,

Don't know if your not familiar with hazard or any other team Pikeville has played except for Sheldon Clark all of teams losses are just to Pikeville. You must give them credit. Also I think the stars could be lined up for Pikeville to make it to BG.
Think about this if Pikeville makes it to the 4th round this year they will have played 10 games at home.

[PHSForever]

Pikeville the sun shine on every dog --- once in awhile ,
Luck win over blackcats
Clay sucks
Hazard suck
Belfry played probley the worst game in 5 years and pikeville thinks there number one,

Wasn't lucky over Prestonsburg, it was earned
Don't play Clay, but yeah, they probably do
Hazard doesn't suck, very strong 1A team that is well coached, you just hatin' because they actually have hardware
And it wasn't Belfry's worst game in 5 years. I'd have to say that was the stinker they played against JC last year. That was their worst in 5 years

Can't believe we got an Eagle fan on here bashing on Pikeville and other teams that have actually done something. Did you know that no JC player has ever seen Ohio? It's because the road always ends in Highlands. nicker:

[eagles2011]

Pikeville has a really good team it's just kinda crazy that when jchs couldn't field a team that could beat a j v team pikeville Prestonsburg always wanted to play us but since thhat matney took-over you shy away even the middle school won't play us , but I have give the kids credit they did play a heck of a game against belfry .

[Bob Seger]

I don't think you will see any Pikeville fan on here saying Pikeville is better than Johnson Central. Or even P'burg or Belfry or Middlesboro or Russell for that matter. Just looking at the games one at a time and enjoying the ride...:Cheerlead

But then again, they may very well be. Not even remotely implying that they are not..Even if JC blows out Belfry, it still may not mean anything...Again, there is only one common opponent that they each play. It's all how teams matchup that determines things.


This is one of those subjects where you have to be careful about how you word things because someone usually gets mad and offended...Not my purpose at all.

[baseball1974]

I hope I can say this without offending anyone past , present, or future, but it's IMO, more Matney's system than per say "the back".....I think he has given some better than average backs the opportunity to put up some All State type numbers and made some pretty good high school backs put up All American monster numbers over the years...It just seems like there is a never ending pipeline of them...It's one after another after another after another..Again, no offense meant because they have all been good backs and athletes.


I remember 4 or 5 years ago that Hazard had what everyone thought was a powerhouse team, and they played JC at JC that year.... I would think that that Hazard team was probably regarded about as highly as this years Pikeville team too..It ended up being one of the most lopsided games ever played at Eagle field and one of the most dominate games I have seen Central play...The game was basicly over 5 minutes into the game. ..

Remember in '06 when Paintsville had that really good regional runner up team? Anybody remember the score when JC played Paintsville that year?...It was a massacre. Not saying that that would be the case this year if these two played , but I am just saying....And I want to re-emphasize one more time that I am a huge Pikeville fan and supporter away from my support for JC....As well as Belfry for that part...I actually own a business in Belfry, and employ all Belfry people....They are all good folks and passionate about their team too.

I think you're referring to the 08' Hazard team? They were a touchdown away from winning a state championship against beechwood that year. Going into that JC game their quarterback was averaging 250 yards a game and their running back was averaging over 160 yards game rushing. JC held them both to well under 100 yards. Kinda makes you wonder how many state titles JC would have if they played in a different class?

[IntheZone]

I told you guys pikeville was pretty good.

[IntheZone]

Just imagine if the other Charles kid could play.

[topnotch]

Pikeville you all are good really good, you have it all, speed, size, passing game, I have not seen any team in Kentucky doesn't matter what class you guys can't, take down, it is scary to think that you can only get better. I think if we play 1 game at A time, work hard and improve, We may be fortunate enough to get there, if and A big IF, we do get there by playing 1 game at A time we will respect every team, but fear no one. After what you did to Belfry just scares me to death, If by any chance we do happen to get to play you as good as you are I hope we don't get anyone hurt.

[topnotch]

I think all of Kentucky should be elated that in Kentucky we have A team as good as Pikeville, and just think it is in Eastern Kentucky.

[TigerBlues]

I think you're referring to the 08' Hazard team? They were a touchdown away from winning a state championship against beechwood that year. Going into that JC game their quarterback was averaging 250 yards a game and their running back was averaging over 160 yards game rushing. JC held them both to well under 100 yards. Kinda makes you wonder how many state titles JC would have if they played in a different class?

But they don't. Only if I could cure cancer :ChairHit:

[KyRock]

Don't know if your not familiar with hazard or any other team Pikeville has played except for Sheldon Clark all of teams losses are just to Pikeville. You must give them credit. Also I think the stars could be lined up for Pikeville to make it to BG.
Think about this if Pikeville makes it to the 4th round this year they will have played 10 games at home.

Pikeville the sun shine on every dog --- once in awhile ,
Luck win over blackcats
Clay sucks
Hazard suck
Belfry played probley the worst game in 5 years and pikeville thinks there number one,

Pikeville and Belfry as bad as I want to admit will be playing still when JC and LC will be sitting at the House.

[baseball1974]

I think all of Kentucky should be elated that in Kentucky we have A team as good as Pikeville, and just think it is in Eastern Kentucky.

Jealousy runs deep in eastern Kentucky

[jetpilot]

Just imagine if the other Charles kid could play.

I would expect him to be back any time, maybe even this week? Anyone know?:popcorn:

[Big Five-0-]

I would expect him to be back any time, maybe even this week? Anyone know?:popcorn:

from what I hear, it may be this week. Another weapon.irateSho

[jetpilot]

from what I hear, it may be this week. Another weapon.irateSho

:letsparty

[TigerBlues]

from what I hear, it may be this week. Another weapon.irateSho

He will be ready to play, hope he has continued to work hard like he did here. Great kid and hope he does great things back home. Best to him and the team

[eagles2011]

Pikeville hasn't won nothing since they quit buying players from Texas . And I say if the truth you should be playing 2a but doctoring numbers keeps you in 1 a .
Lets talk basketball you all trade kids every year with valley and east ridge still can't win region ,

Middle school coachs cryed the hole game last year they should not had two played Harlan middle in the d 3 bracket .

[PHSForever]

Pikeville hasn't won nothing since they quit buying players from Texas . And I say if the truth you should be playing 2a but doctoring numbers keeps you in 1 a .
Lets talk basketball you all trade kids every year with valley and east ridge still can't win region ,

Middle school coachs cryed the hole game last year they should not had two played Harlan middle in the d 3 bracket .

Lol. Shows what you know. The Texas player actually moved back here to live with his mother. Who was from here. And actually, I don't even like the middle school coach. I heard the same thing, that he whined. So what? Still don't change the fact you're whining worse than him. Basketball? You want to talk basketball? Check back with me in November. That's why y'all don't have any rings, basketball school pretending to play football. All is good until you run into a program that actually works at it year round. Then y'all turn soft and crumble. JJ Jude is the best y'all have produced I will give you that. Enjoy you Napoleon complex little man. ��

[KYSportsFan11]

People saying Belfry had a bad game is crazy. Belfry had no turnovers. Other than the muffed punt. Pikeville had a fumble and interception. Pikeville was better plan and simple

[PHSForever]

Pikeville hasn't won nothing since they quit buying players from Texas . And I say if the truth you should be playing 2a but doctoring numbers keeps you in 1 a .
Lets talk basketball you all trade kids every year with valley and east ridge still can't win region ,

Middle school coachs cryed the hole game last year they should not had two played Harlan middle in the d 3 bracket .

And we don't fudge our numbers to stay in 1A. You're talking about an Ashland area school that allegedly had people home schooling to do stuff like that. I suspect you probably have dreams of grandeur in which your school is "respected" as much as the Tom Kitties are. Guess what. Your whining and excuse making, while being hypocritical at the same time, has got you moving up the list faster than a scalded dog.