[strange danger]

rank em

[eagles2011]

Pulaski
Bell
Knox
Pikeville
Johnson central
Belfry
Lawrence county
Prestonsburg
Hazard
Harlan county

[WillBurg93]

1. Pikeville
2. Pikeville
3. Pikeville
4. Pikeville
5. Pikeville

[wiznut]

north Laurel should be in tjere somewhere

[RisingJackets]

Ask the bell squad where they would rank the jackets defensenicker:

[Objective]

Ask the bell squad where they would rank the jackets defensenicker:

Top 5 little brother

[BobcatForever]

Ask the bell squad where they would rank the jackets defensenicker:

I would say that Middlesboro's should be in there are you saying bell's shouldn't be:thatsfunn

[BobcatForever]

would agree that the jackets should be in there also!!!

[Do-double-gg]

Pulaski
Bell
Knox
Pikeville
Johnson central
Belfry
Lawrence countyPrestonsburg
Hazard
Harlan county

I am a Lawrence fan but I don't agree with this right now. Our defense is playing soft right now. Do we have the athlete's to be good on defense.........
....yes but something is missing and we are all waiting for something to click with this unit but we are about out of time! :HitWall:

[Objective]

Pulaski 32 (4 games)
Belfry 54 (4 games)
Bell 52 (5 games)
Pikeville 113 (5 games)
Middlesboro 31 (4 games)
Knox central 23 (4games)
Johnson Central 45 (4 games)

Pikeville is good top 5 defense I don't think so

Pulaski Middlesboro BellCo Knox central Johnson central

[jetpilot]

Pulaski 32 (4 games)
Belfry 54 (4 games)
Bell 52 (4games)
Pikeville 113 (5 games)
Middlesboro 31 (4 games)
Knox central 23 (4games)

If only it were that easy. Pikeville held Belfry to less points than the Belfry defense held Pikeville to. I shouldn't have to go on but by your post I feel I must. Pikeville has played 4 teams whose only loss is to Pikeville. Middlesboro has played crap mostly, and Bell who is a pig in lipstick. I could go on and on but please don't make me explain why Pikeville's defense is better than Middlesboro that has played crappy Grant Co. for a quarter, crappy Pineville, crappy Harlan, and played one less game than Pikeville. Oh yeah and Pikeville scored 77 on Middlesboro and now they are the Green Bay Packers. nicker:

Still expect a good game at Middlesboro but your post is ridiculous.:please:

[jetpilot]

Pikeville has played Belfry, Hazard, Prestonsburg, Paintsville, and Sheldon Clark.
Middlesboro has played Grant Co. for a quarter, Pineville, Harlan and Bell Co.
Way too early to compare defenses. Again, expecting a good game Friday but I will wait until then to compare.

[Emmit Brown]

In no way am I stating that they are the best, but the defense at Johnson Central has been playing well thus far and could be in the conversation. As a team, JC has given up 45pts. through 4 games. Of those 45pts., only 3 TDs have been given up by their varsity starters.

Fairland, OH (0pts) - Shutout

Mastery Charter, PA (19pts) - Of those 19 points allowed, only one TD was given up by their varisty defense and it was only a 9yd drive which was set up by an INT. The other two were given up by the freshman offense when fumbles were returned for TDs.

Perry Central (12pts) - One TD was given up by the varsity and it was a drive of 4yds. Again, the drive was set up by an INT return. The second TD was given up by the JV.

Harlan Co. (14pts) - One TD was given up by the varsity, the opening drive of the second half with a running clock. The second TD was scored in the 4th quarter on the JV with a 4th & Goal TD pass.

As stated in a previous thread, they are playing a lot of young guys in key positions. With more experience, they should get better.

[Objective]

I'm very interested in the Middlesboro pikeville matchup might give us a clue on just how these mountain teams will stack up against each other. Don't take my post wrong pikeville maybe the 2nd best team in the mountains I just think they are offense heavy and good on D but not top 5

[jetpilot]

I'm very interested in the Middlesboro pikeville matchup might give us a clue on just how these mountain teams will stack up against each other. Don't take my post wrong pikeville maybe the 2nd best team in the mountains I just think they are offense heavy and good on D but not top 5

D held Belfry to 13 points, the other 7 was a long return of a fumble by their defense. There is no team in the mountains who has done that to Belfry since we were all pooping in our diapers.:truestory:

[Lynch47]

In no way am I stating that they are the best, but the defense at Johnson Central has been playing well thus far and could be in the conversation. As a team, JC has given up 45pts. through 4 games. Of those 45pts., only 3 TDs have been given up by their varsity starters.

Fairland, OH (0pts) - Shutout

Mastery Charter, PA (19pts) - Of those 19 points allowed, only one TD was given up by their varisty defense and it was only a 9yd drive which was set up by an INT. The other two were given up by the freshman offense when fumbles were returned for TDs.

Perry Central (12pts) - One TD was given up by the varsity and it was a drive of 4yds. Again, the drive was set up by an INT return. The second TD was given up by the JV.

Harlan Co. (14pts) - One TD was given up by the varsity, the opening drive of the second half with a running clock. The second TD was scored in the 4th quarter on the JV with a 4th & Goal TD pass.

As stated in a previous thread, they are playing a lot of young guys in key positions. With more experience, they should get better.

Fairland had 104 yards of total offense in the game.
Mastery was held to 72 yards of offense in their game. The 19 points is a little misleading if you take the 13 points off the board for defensive scores and their only td drive was from 9 yards out.
PCC had 193 yards of offense, with most almost half of it being from an 80 yard run at the end of a game for a TD on the youngsters getting varsity reps.
Harlan Co. stats haven't posted so I am a little interested to see how that one turns out.


Really too early to tell but I think Pulaski is #1 at this point. In the words of Ricky Bobby you can say for the other positions "First or last."

[Objective]

D held Belfry to 13 points, the other 7 was a long return of a fumble by their defense. There is no team in the mountains who has done that to Belfry since we were all pooping in our diapers.:truestory:

That's good but I'm having a problem with Sheldon Clark Hazard and Prestonburg hanging 20 29 and 36 on there D

[jetpilot]

That's good but I'm having a problem with Sheldon Clark Hazard and Prestonburg hanging 20 29 and 36 on there D

Sheldon Clark was a blowout and Prestonsburg and Hazard are 8-0 against everyone not named Pikeville, who held them to their season lows. Just having a little fun here, not near crunch time yet.

[Bobcat_Dad]

Bell gave up 10 on defense to boro. Other points came on fumble return. (The 14 points Washington scored was against Bell JV defense I think?)

Boro gave up 14 to bobcat offense.

KC plays very good defense too.

So does Pulaski and Corbin.

[HAIL PIKEVILLE!]

Pikeville isn't quite a top 5 D yet....but they get better every week. They took a big leap Friday night but still have room to get better. The Panther D will be downright scary come playoff time if they keep their heads on straight and stay healthy.

[irishcard16]

With all due respect to Pikeville and their performance against Belfry, your coach has always had "the scheme" for slowing down/stalling out Belfry's offense, now it was made easier due to the fact that he has better athletes to plug in and fill the roles he has set forth for stopping this offense. I believe it was just as much to do with scheme and gameplan as it was personnel. Look at the Hazard and P'burg game. Watch the film of the Belfry game vs. The film of the Hazard game, I bet you will see completely different techniques and defensive allignments. Not much use in "diving" at offensive linemans ankles against a spread attack, versus implying said tactic against a quick hitting spread option attack. Just my opinion :igiveup:

[Craze JACKET man]

Anyone can put down a team name, but look at strength of schedule and then rank them.. We've played one good team and that's Bell..Bell played two good teams. You can't factor in teams that can't line up.. Belfry plays the toughest schedule and you bet they are the best defense..

[irishcard16]

I wouldn't think we are the best defense, we can be one of the best defenses which was proven against Henry Clay, Harlan Co, and SW Pulaski, but the narrative continues to hold true those teams were one dimensional rush only teams. The first time we faced a balanced offense with a passing threat we were exposed early and often.

[PHSForever]

I wouldn't think we are the best defense, we can be one of the best defenses which was proven against Henry Clay, Harlan Co, and SW Pulaski, but the narrative continues to hold true those teams were one dimensional rush only teams. The first time we faced a balanced offense with a passing threat we were exposed early and often.

I wouldn't say that. Southwestern came the closest before Pikeville to being balanced. Still a 2-1 rush to pass ratio in terms of yards though. But my point is, you all still handled them very very well. But against Belfry was probably the most balanced pass to run game Pikeville has called this year. I could be wrong, but that is how it seems to me. Can't wait to see stats. As for the topic of the thread, absolutely Belfry is a top 5 D in the mountains, and I don't think Pikeville is there yet, but definitely in the top 7-8, and getting better.

[irishcard16]

I wouldn't say that. Southwestern came the closest before Pikeville to being balanced. Still a 2-1 rush to pass ratio in terms of yards though. But my point is, you all still handled them very very well. But against Belfry was probably the most balanced pass to run game Pikeville has called this year. I could be wrong, but that is how it seems to me. Can't wait to see stats. As for the topic of the thread, absolutely Belfry is a top 5 D in the mountains, and I don't think Pikeville is there yet, but definitely in the top 7-8, and getting better.

Charles is head and shoulders above the kid from SW talent wise, and schematically he was put in good positions to make quick accurate throws,kid is gonna be pretty darn good.

[oneijoe]

D held Belfry to 13 points, the other 7 was a long return of a fumble by their defense. There is no team in the mountains who has done that to Belfry since we were all pooping in our diapers.:truestory:

Uhhhhh, not quite that long ago. Amazing how short memories get !!

Prestonsburg beat Belfry 28-21 in P-burg in 2009, then backed it up with another win the following year (2010) in CAM stadium 21-6 (this beats your 13 points...lol).



:biggrin::popcorn:

[oneijoe]

With all due respect to Pikeville and their performance against Belfry, your coach has always had "the scheme" for slowing down/stalling out Belfry's offense, now it was made easier due to the fact that he has better athletes to plug in and fill the roles he has set forth for stopping this offense. I believe it was just as much to do with scheme and gameplan as it was personnel. Look at the Hazard and P'burg game. Watch the film of the Belfry game vs. The film of the Hazard game, I bet you will see completely different techniques and defensive allignments. Not much use in "diving" at offensive linemans ankles against a spread attack, versus implying said tactic against a quick hitting spread option attack. Just my opinion :igiveup:

The ingredients required to beat Belfry aren't a secret.

On defense, it takes linemen who won't surrender 2-3 yards off the ball, quick and sure-tackling linebackers, and good open-field tackling corners. On offense, you need is a passing game good enough to prevent the Pirates from playing more than 7 on the defensive front and a running game competent enough to take advantage of it. In other words, a balanced attack.

Prestonsburg had it in '09 and '10 and Pikeville had it Friday night...



:popcorn:

[PHSForever]

With all due respect to Pikeville and their performance against Belfry, your coach has always had "the scheme" for slowing down/stalling out Belfry's offense, now it was made easier due to the fact that he has better athletes to plug in and fill the roles he has set forth for stopping this offense. I believe it was just as much to do with scheme and gameplan as it was personnel. Look at the Hazard and P'burg game. Watch the film of the Belfry game vs. The film of the Hazard game, I bet you will see completely different techniques and defensive allignments. Not much use in "diving" at offensive linemans ankles against a spread attack, versus implying said tactic against a quick hitting spread option attack. Just my opinion :igiveup:

And by the way, reviewed several of the highlight tapes, and I've not seen a play where the D consisted of diving at the ankles. I know it is a highlight tape, but first 1991#8 brought it up and now you. I've just not seen it. I'm sure tackles have been made there, but from watching all 4 available tapes, I've seen them basically just go straight up against the O linemen of other teams.

[64SUR]

Due to the lack of offensive speed in the Mts......1A Williamsburg Defense is #1 in the Mts....just ask hazard and pikeville at the end of the season......eriously: ?.....JMO ONLY :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Craze JACKET man]

Pulaski
Belfry
Corbin
Pikeville
Middlesboro
Bell