[Diogenes]

Easy come,easy go? The pipeline is open and goes both ways.

[VoR_58]

Regardless of everything that's been said here, I still think there is no way that Belfry should have lost this game. My guess is they just simply overlooked Pikeville and didn't prepare for them like they prepare for everyone else. They did not look like the same team I watched dismantle Henry Clay in the Pike County Bowl. Henry Clay would beat Pikeville by 3 TD's along with Harlan and Southwestern. Just my opinion. Congrats to Pikeville on ending the streak though. They are a tough team, but I still don't see them getting past Williamsburg. Both Pikeville and Belfry are going to have great seasons.

[cuppett777]

today would be a good day to own a furniture store in Pikeville(u know they burned ALOT of couches last night)

[cuppett777]

I heard coach Haywood say on a video a couple weeks back say"you guys aren't as good as u think u are"i say he knows...

[mysonis55]

Teams tend to not look as good when playing stiffer competition. That is the case here.

[blackcatballer]

After its loss the heartless pirates can pack it n, I think any thing short of a state title can't wash the taste of that game from thier mouth. From what I seen last night they can forget the state title.

[Cover3]

Belfry's offense is based on one the best & most organized running games in Ky HS history, and that is usually enough to get them the win. But if you watch football at any level, can you really expect to beat another good football team that's equally as talented, if you are basically no threat at all to throw the football?

[proud44pirate]

Their is never such thing as a good loss. Not sure how to take it. I know we can regroup and try again or put our head between our legs and wait for season to end. I look at my son and all I see is a stunned look. Mentally they wasn't ready. That wasn't coaches the fault. Players need to be ready and not take teams lightly. I never saw any player try to get each other going last night. If someone doesn't step up to lead the ship will sink.

[NEWARKCATHOLICFAN]

First I want to state that I like both teams but have always liked Pikeville a little more.

Congrats to Pikeville on the huge win.


I really would not want to face Belfry next week.

[Flash154]

I am looking for Pikeville to finish strong and be in the finals.

[i know, right?]

I haven't seen a Belfry team cramp and look out of shape at this point in the season in a while. I don't know if they just didn't want to win or when Pikeville jumped out and smacked them in the face time after time again, they just laid down.

[PaytoPlay]

No one has said it so I will. Belfry was out coached. I wasn't there but IMO it was obvious from the radio call.

Pikeville came out with an excellent gameplan of short passes and well timed handoffs. Belfry was back peddling from the get go, applying no pressure on the QB and simply hoping that Pikeville would throw bad ball, drop passes, etc. Belfry kicked the first two kick offs out of bounds? Hunter (Frosh) is put back to field a punt and muffs it. Offensively Belfry tries to run wide all night right into Pikevilles strength of team speed. Pass for the two point conversion?

Now like I said I was not there and so I can't speak to the actual line play and so forth. It sounded like every time Pikeville needed 4 yards, they gave it to Pugh and he got 5. Pikeville made play after play and Belfry had no answer on defense.

Belfry is not that great at RB. Willis is the only kid that is reliable. IMO there is a noticeable falloff from last year.

[PHSForever]

I haven't seen a Belfry team cramp and look out of shape at this point in the season in a while. I don't know if they just didn't want to win or when Pikeville jumped out and smacked them in the face time after time again, they just laid down.

The cramping really surprised me. It was not that warm or humid last night. But what if I suggest this (keep in mind it is hypothetical, not an accusation). Suppose Pikeville's no huddle contributed to some of it. Little opportunity for subbing led to maybe some laying down a little longer to get subs in and out? I really truly hope there were no serious injuries last night. If there were, prayers up. Good luck to Belfry the rest of the way. I'd hate to be the next team on their schedule because That's gonna get ugly.

[Belfry0304]

People are way too quick to throw out out coached whenever Coach Haywood loses. It's 4th and 1, 22-20, and everybody on Earth knows Pugh is getting the ball, he goes in standing... outcoached? I don't think so.

[i know, right?]

Does anyone have any stats from this game?

[Leonidas]

I woke up this morning and still couldn't believe it.

Biggest upset of the week in the state and maybe the biggest upset so far this season.

Congrats again to the Panthers.

[PHSForever]

People are way too quick to throw out out coached whenever Coach Haywood loses. It's 4th and 1, 22-20, and everybody on Earth knows Pugh is getting the ball, he goes in standing... outcoached? I don't think so.

Exactly. He can coach, players have to execute. Pikeville's executed better last night. Haywood is a damn fine coach.

[i know, right?]

Exactly. He can coach, players have to execute. Pikeville's executed better last night. Haywood is a damn fine coach.

Haywood will and has always put his players into the positions they need to be in to make plays. Tonight they just didn't make the plays when they needed to and on the other hand, Pikeville made all the plays when they needed to.

[irishcard16]

People are way too quick to throw out out coached whenever Coach Haywood loses. It's 4th and 1, 22-20, and everybody on Earth knows Pugh is getting the ball, he goes in standing... outcoached? I don't think so.

The counter to this which is the same when someone stifles the offense of the Pirates. LACK OF VERSATILITY! On the play you are speaking of linebackers were still 5 yards off the ball with safeties still behind them? Why? What are they protecting against on 4th and goal at the 1? Running a 5-2 defensive scheme why are the linebackers not up in the gaps between the nose guard and the D tackles with the safeties in behind to read the play and fly in over the top TO STOP A SHORT YARDAGE PLAY. I love our program as much as anyone and am our biggest fan but I am also realistic. Out system works when
1. You have better athletes
2. Play an unfamiliar opponent

Our system struggles when you play teams that have played us multiple times and have similar or better athletes, watch any game film when we have played the likes of Pburg, Johnson Central, Breathitt, Sheldon Clark, Mike Holcomb is the best I've seen at neutralizing the attack of the Pirates.

Defensively how can you expect a secondary to stop a passing attack when from the time they are raised through the feeder system they never face a passing threat. How can you expect these young men to have the ball skills required to stop the high octane passing attacks that everyone now runs? This same theory can be applied to our passing game, why get mad or angry when we drop a pass or throw a bad pass? I mean really what should we expect from these kids?

[jetpilot]

Guy on that other site saying Belfry was without their #1 & #2 RBs and that contributed to the loss.:eyeroll:
Next we'll bear that Belfry sat their starters to get their JV some work and Haywood stayed home because he thought he wouldn't be needed.:devilflam


:biggrin:

[baseball1974]

Their is never such thing as a good loss. Not sure how to take it. I know we can regroup and try again or put our head between our legs and wait for season to end. I look at my son and all I see is a stunned look. Mentally they wasn't ready. That wasn't coaches the fault. Players need to be ready and not take teams lightly. I never saw any player try to get each other going last night. If someone doesn't step up to lead the ship will sink.

Losing does take a huge hit to the ego, but this could be the best thing that ever happened to Belfry this year? The best example is when UK faced Mississippi State I think in the SEC championship in basketball in 96. Coach Pitino has the best college basketball team of all-time and he is running through the season spanking everyone. The SEC championship comes up and they run through it as well all the way to the championship game. Nobody gave Mississippi St. a chance, but UK came out flat and never recovered. After that loss they regrouped and refocused and nobody could play with them during the NCAA tournament. In every interview Pitino did after that year he said the only reason they won was due to the loss against Mississippi St. He has said time after time they learned more from that game than they did at any practice all year.

With that in mind, this game not only gives Haywood a chance to address their weaknesses, but it gives Pikeville the confidence their going to need down the stretch. It was a classic game and both teams will end up benefitting from it. On this given night, Pikeville wanted it more and they executed a game plan.

[We Hang 8]

Wow are you serious? He's only one of the best high school coaches ever!
Belfry fans are real sour this morning lol

[skully03]

Teams tend to not look as good when playing stiffer competition. That is the case here.

So I guess Pikeville can beat Henry Clay??

[Cover3]

On Friday, Sept. 19, 2014, Pikeville had the better coach, the better players, the better game plan, & the better fan section (by far). Haywood is the greatest coach in Ky HS football history but let's just be honest, for some reason, last night he was clearly out-coached. I agree that his players didn't make plays but Pikeville was much more ready to play, that's coaching. Taking 2 time-outs home with you in a close game, that's coaching. Being completely 1-dimensional against a really good opponent, is coaching. Get over it people, it happens. Coach Haywood will learn from this (yes, even at his age) and have his team ready for another state championship run. Coach McNamee and his team were clearly more prepared last night.

[jetpilot]

So I guess Pikeville can beat Henry Clay??

We have no way of knowing since they don't play. What we do know is Pikeville can beat Belfry.

[BP2011]

I agree Haywood was out coached....we put no pressure on the qb all night and the line on both sides was dominated the entire game....can we please start jamming recievers and play some man coverage....
I think we are better suited to run the wishbone

[PaytoPlay]

You people need to read my post. I didn't say he "can't coach" or "lost the game" or anything like that. Haywood is a great coach. 95% of the time, he outcoaches the opponent. I just think last night was not the staffs best moment. Players have to make plays and so ultimately it is on them. And as to what 0304 said about late in the game in obvious running situations where pikeville just ate belfry up - that is 100% on the kids.

Again - I said I think Belfry got outcoaches in this one. Nothing more. I can't even say it determined the outcome. But you can be critical of coaching moves and not be calling for the coaches head or what have you. Just like teams have a bad night so do coaching staffs.

[irishcard16]

No sourness to it I've been a realistic fan my entire life during playing days and in the stands, schematically he can be out coached and has been on many occasions I've said it in victory an in loss. I do believe he is stubborn and unwilling to change and adapt to the personnel that we have on a current team. I don't agree with a lot of things he does schematically. I do however believe he is a great coach when it comes to teaching values and raising young boys and molding them into respectful and productive members I the community, you will never hear me say anything to that affect.

[VoR_58]

So I guess Pikeville can beat Henry Clay??

HC would destroy Pikeville. Even though Pikeville won this game I still think Belfry is the better team. If they played this game 10 times this year Belfry would win 9 of them. Huge props to Pikeville, but I do think a little luck was involved. Good luck to both teams the rest of the season though. As I am a fan of all Pike County schools.

[jetpilot]

HC would destroy Pikeville. Even though Pikeville won this game I still think Belfry is the better team. If they played this game 10 times this year Belfry would win 9 of them. Huge props to Pikeville, but I do think a little luck was involved. Good luck to both teams the rest of the season though. As I am a fan of all Pike County schools.

You expect us to take your word for it after this?

http://www.bluegrassrivals.com/forum/sho...tcount=126

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