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02-07-2014, 10:33 AM
Bobcat_Dad Wrote:E'town is 2:40 minutes to PT. E'town 3:20 to Bell Co. according to Mapquest. Plus your time zone difference which also causes problems.
They are also in the 2nd western most district so they should be in that region, Geographicly speaking???
Currently they are the third most western district, since 1 plays 2
and 3 (E'town) plays 4 (Bell).
Could get shifted to 2 in alignment, but there are other ways.
I guess it doesn't seem "fair" since John Hardin (short drive from E'town) gets matched up with Bullitt East/Anderson and the Oldhams and Fort Knox (smaller school straight down 31W still technically in Hardin County) does NOT have a haul in the playoffs.
But for LaRue and E'town? Better have a map or GPS come November.
The drive to Paducah (or Owensboro) is an easy one. Parkway for the most part. But that central time zone change is not fun (game not starting til 8 or 8:30 EASTERN at the earliest since those kickoffs would be 7 or 7:30 CENTRAL for the hosts). And playoff games rarely kick off before 7 local host time.
02-07-2014, 12:16 PM
cksportsfan Wrote:It's NOT the district they were in. ... It's the district's NUMBER/NAME.
That district should have been east. An eastern district (5 or 6) should should have been numbered 3 or 4 and put in the west.
Not looking at the current alignment right now, but many folks believe district numbers should have been switched, which would have kept E'town and LaRue going all the way to Bell and from Bell having to go to Paducah.
So it would make sense for Mason Co to drive to Paducah? Or Powell County? Whats the difference? The fact is one of the Eastern Kentucky districts had to be in the west. I think because of Corbin, Wayne and Casey being in the west before, thats why it was left that way. Bell was simply an addition because they had no other teams within 2 hours to play. Im not saying this was right but it was their ONLY option how the rest stood.
02-07-2014, 12:24 PM
johnnyd Wrote:So it would make sense for Mason Co to drive to Paducah? Or Powell County? Whats the difference? The fact is one of the Eastern Kentucky districts had to be in the west. I think because of Corbin, Wayne and Casey being in the west before, thats why it was left that way. Bell was simply an addition because they had no other teams within 2 hours to play. Im not saying this was right but it was their ONLY option how the rest stood.
Except that's for one game. That's OK.
In 2012, you had E'town and LaRue (15 minutes apart at most) driving to Bell County back-to-back weeks to open the playoffs (not in semis). E'town lost at Bell in round 1, LaRue lost at Bell in round 2 after beating Corbin in round 1.
The E'town-LaRue district would be better off opposite Mason or Powell than Corbin-Wayne-Bell, etc.
Obviously in the state semis, there are going to be several hauls. At the same time, it COULD have been avoided in the first round.
02-07-2014, 12:33 PM
cksportsfan Wrote:Except that's for one game. That's OK.
In 2012, you had E'town and LaRue (15 minutes apart at most) driving to Bell County back-to-back weeks to open the playoffs (not in semis). E'town lost at Bell in round 1, LaRue lost at Bell in round 2 after beating Corbin in round 1.
The E'town-LaRue district would be better off opposite Mason or Powell than Corbin-Wayne-Bell, etc.
Obviously in the state semis, there are going to be several hauls. At the same time, it COULD have been avoided in the first round.
Yes but what about the OTHER teams in the district. You picked the furthest two points. The others are much closer to the cross district.
02-07-2014, 12:40 PM
Ask this question. What district would have been closer to Louisville, Henry co, Larue and E'town? Bell, Corbin, Casey, and Wayne vs. the district of Bath County, Bourbon County, Estill County, Garrard County and Powell County?
Don't need Mapquest to figure that 1 out.
KHSAA knows they messed up and so do most reasonable people, but that is done. The focus should be on the here and now.
Don't need Mapquest to figure that 1 out.
KHSAA knows they messed up and so do most reasonable people, but that is done. The focus should be on the here and now.
02-07-2014, 12:50 PM
Bobcat_Dad Wrote:Ask this question. What district would have been closer to Louisville, Henry co, Larue and E'town? Bell, Corbin, Casey, and Wayne vs. the district of Bath County, Bourbon County, Estill County, Garrard County and Powell County?
Don't need Mapquest to figure that 1 out.
KHSAA knows they messed up and so do most reasonable people, but that is done. The focus should be on the here and now.
Easy fix now that Bath Co and Bourbon Co are coming out of that district for sure and probably Powell and Estill too. Garrard and Western Hills pick up Lex Cath, Boyle Co. and either Pendleton Co or Henry Co and go west.
02-08-2014, 04:30 PM
Shoot....just forget about classes, how about moving to the Sweet 16 basketball format since everyone seems to like that so well. Then everyone could play their neighbors and we can have one champion:rockon:
02-08-2014, 04:52 PM
Catfan09 Wrote:Shoot....just forget about classes, how about moving to the Sweet 16 basketball format since everyone seems to like that so well. Then everyone could play their neighbors and we can have one champion:rockon:
yeah that would be so fair a mayfield beechwood or ncc being paired up with a trinity or st x with a 7 to 1 ratio of boys wouldnt it
02-08-2014, 05:09 PM
Anyone in 6-A not named X or Trinity forced to play X or T will have a big ratio working against it.
Any 1-A team playing the Fultons will have a huge ratio in their favor.
No matter how many classes you have, the biggest ratio differences will always be in the smallest and biggest classes.
Any 1-A team playing the Fultons will have a huge ratio in their favor.
No matter how many classes you have, the biggest ratio differences will always be in the smallest and biggest classes.
02-08-2014, 06:38 PM
cksportsfan Wrote:Anyone in 6-A not named X or Trinity forced to play X or T will have a big ratio working against it.
Any 1-A team playing the Fultons will have a huge ratio in their favor.
No matter how many classes you have, the biggest ratio differences will always be in the smallest and biggest classes.
true but without classes it would be worse imagine williamsburg playing trinity instead of being being half the size of mayfield they would be at a disadvantage of 14 to 1 what if one of the fultons had a good team one year like fulton city had a few years back they would have to play a mccracken co that is 20 times there size just to win there region to make a sweet 16 then if so play a scott co henry clay st x or trinity at a 25 to 1 disadvantage plus the privates can recruit not fair to a small schnl you cant do that in football i think basketball aint as bad not as hard to find 5 players compared to 22 but i still think basketball should have classes 3 would be enough
02-08-2014, 09:29 PM
killbilly usmc Wrote:yeah that would be so fair a mayfield beechwood or ncc being paired up with a trinity or st x with a 7 to 1 ratio of boys wouldnt it
There is an all A for that......they have more boys to choose from in basketball too.
02-10-2014, 11:43 AM
I say just have one class like in basketball and baseball. it's fair, right? i mean i've read where people on here think that the size of the school has no effect on the ability of sports teams to compete. so why class football? right? :eyeroll:
02-10-2014, 12:24 PM
lchsalumnus Wrote:I say just have one class like in basketball and baseball. it's fair, right? i mean i've read where people on here think that the size of the school has no effect on the ability of sports teams to compete. so why class football? right? :eyeroll:
I begg to differ. A high school basketball roster takes up about 20 players ( JV, Varsity ), baseball maybe 30 players ( JV, Varsity ). A big high school football team ie. Louisville and Lexington's 6A about 100 plus players ( JV, Varsity ). My point is for football, you can't have a school of 2,300 plus student body compete football with a smaller class 1A, 2A even 3A that only has a student body of 200-700 kids. The talent pool is a lot smaller. Im not saying that a smaller class won't beat a bigger teams, it has happen but most likely not. The cure for all.... Cut it down to 5 classes and only the district winner and runner up goes in the playoffs. Perhaps a wild card in the district as well too.
02-10-2014, 06:48 PM
FBfan4life Wrote:I begg to differ. A high school basketball roster takes up about 20 players ( JV, Varsity ), baseball maybe 30 players ( JV, Varsity ). A big high school football team ie. Louisville and Lexington's 6A about 100 plus players ( JV, Varsity ). My point is for football, you can't have a school of 2,300 plus student body compete football with a smaller class 1A, 2A even 3A that only has a student body of 200-700 kids. The talent pool is a lot smaller. Im not saying that a smaller class won't beat a bigger teams, it has happen but most likely not. The cure for all.... Cut it down to 5 classes and only the district winner and runner up goes in the playoffs. Perhaps a wild card in the district as well too.
but not all those 100 players will play. in a football game, not counting special teams, most teams will use between 15-30 players, which is what even small schools can have on a roster. listen, i'm all for a class system, but i'm wanting it for ALL sports. enrollment plays a factor in ALL sports. but some on here believe that the smaller size schools don't win because they "don't work hard enough", which isn't true.
02-11-2014, 09:08 AM
lchsalumnus Wrote:but not all those 100 players will play. in a football game, not counting special teams, most teams will use between 15-30 players, which is what even small schools can have on a roster. listen, i'm all for a class system, but i'm wanting it for ALL sports. enrollment plays a factor in ALL sports. but some on here believe that the smaller size schools don't win because they "don't work hard enough", which isn't true.
Totally understand what you mean about " working hard ", but smaller school does not have the talent pool. Smaller school might have only 1 stud player vs a bigger school could have several studs. I'm speaking only for football by the way. Basketball and baseball is a little different.
02-11-2014, 08:57 PM
ColtPride Wrote:I'd be worrying about playing the larger 2A schools like DeSales, and CAL. We both dressed over 60 players last year. I know we actually dressed 82. Pretty impressive for 2A football.
Very true. Mayfield typically dresses 50 to 55 themselves and are used to playing schools that dress a lot of kids, so, they would likely compete favorably with any 2a school, but, I agree with what you're saying about the 2 Louisville privates. Those 2 have stepped up there games the last couple of years and will be a handful for any 2a team, not just Mayfield. Personally, I think it's good to up the ante for Mayfield and at the same time, it's good for the rest of 2a to have another strong contender in there class.
02-11-2014, 09:09 PM
Did prestonsburg really submit a suggestion to the KHSAA?
02-11-2014, 09:15 PM
sportscritic Wrote:Did prestonsburg really submit a suggestion to the KHSAA?
What did they submit? Were they asking to play up in 3A?
02-11-2014, 09:18 PM
It's on page 5. By the look of their suggestion they were trying to get away from nky!
02-11-2014, 10:04 PM
East Ky will be a mess.
02-12-2014, 03:27 AM
lchsalumnus Wrote:but not all those 100 players will play. in a football game, not counting special teams, most teams will use between 15-30 players, which is what even small schools can have on a roster. listen, i'm all for a class system, but i'm wanting it for ALL sports. enrollment plays a factor in ALL sports. but some on here believe that the smaller size schools don't win because they "don't work hard enough", which isn't true.
I agree, I think basketball should at least have 3 classes.that would put around 4-8 schools in each region. can anybody justify classes for sports like track/cross country, wrestling, swimming etc. I dont think individual sports should but thats just me.
02-13-2014, 12:59 PM
sportscritic Wrote:It's on page 5. By the look of their suggestion they were trying to get away from nky!
Why do these guys always try to avoid competition. :eyeroll:
02-19-2014, 09:39 AM
Anyone know when this is gonna get revisited??
02-19-2014, 10:01 AM
Sometime around the sweet 16 when BOC meets.
02-23-2014, 06:16 AM
Does anyone know if any teams have requested up?
02-28-2014, 12:04 PM
Any word on an announcement?
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02-28-2014, 12:17 PM
Heard Highlands is going to do whatever Johnson Cent is going to do.
03-20-2014, 09:50 PM
KHSAA slipped out the list of schools playing up and down.
http://khsaa.org/football/realignment/20...lments.pdf
Highlands and CovCath up to 5A. Johnson Central got good intel, stayed in 4A. Immediate favorite in the east. A few other schools moved as well.
http://khsaa.org/football/realignment/20...lments.pdf
Highlands and CovCath up to 5A. Johnson Central got good intel, stayed in 4A. Immediate favorite in the east. A few other schools moved as well.
03-20-2014, 10:00 PM
Also, Conner and Cooper have requested to play up into 6A.
Whats this do for 5A?
Highlands and Cov Cath playing up is ridiculous to begin with, but now, two schools that would have been in there district wont even be there.
Not to mention Scott has dropped to 4A to allow these two to move up.
I say make them play where they belong. No exceptions.
Whats this do for 5A?
Highlands and Cov Cath playing up is ridiculous to begin with, but now, two schools that would have been in there district wont even be there.
Not to mention Scott has dropped to 4A to allow these two to move up.
I say make them play where they belong. No exceptions.
03-20-2014, 10:27 PM
Who will be in the Russell district? Seems like 3A will be a mess on the eastern sode of the state. Looks like Russell, Lewis Co, Flemming County, and Lawrence County are likely to be in a district together and probably paired with the Breathitt bracket in the playoffs. Would this be correct?
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