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Betsy Layne Schedule
#1
I understand that the Bobcats were one game over the limit with 5 remaining non-district games (Johnson Central, Paintsville, Belfry, Magoffin County and Jenkins). Guess which one the cancelled. It wasn't Paintsville, Belfry, Magoffin County or Jenkins. Guess improving the record is more important than working hard to improve. Guess we will have to wait for a match up in the post season between two of the best teams in the region.
#2
Looks like Betsy Layne went from a team that likes to run to a team that likes to run scared.
#3
Tiger77 Wrote:Looks like Betsy Layne went from a team that likes to run to a team that likes to run scared.

Cordia beat down done something to them.....:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
#4
Johnson Central didn't want any anyway. The Bobcats will get them come regional tourney time if J.C. can make it that far.
#5
I've known Jr Newsome for 45 years, played ball together and coached against each other. He's never been scared of anything in his life and especially a basketball game.
#6
I don't think they are scared, just can't understand why you would not want to play Johnson Central. Johnson Central is the best team in the region and it will take an off night from them or another team playing their best game of the year for them to lose. Jenkins is 4-16, Belfry is 5-13, Paintsville is 7-13 and Magoffin County is 11-10. In 2014, Johnson Central has won 10 of their last 11 with the only loss being a questionable one against Breathitt County. This would have been the perfect for Betsy Layne to see how they match up against the Eagles in game conditions. Guess win-loss record is more important.
#7
THOMCAT Wrote:I don't think they are scared, just can't understand why you would not want to play Johnson Central. Johnson Central is the best team in the region and it will take an off night from them or another team playing their best game of the year for them to lose. Jenkins is 4-16, Belfry is 5-13, Paintsville is 7-13 and Magoffin County is 11-10. In 2014, Johnson Central has won 10 of their last 11 with the only loss being a questionable one against Breathitt County. This would have been the perfect for Betsy Layne to see how they match up against the Eagles in game conditions. Guess win-loss record is more important.

They were supposed to play SV on Saturday as well and had to cancel that game as well
#8
I agree that it would have been to their advantage to see where they stack up and especially with these two teams. Maybe he felt that it was better to have not played them in case they were to match up later. He is a Wiley old fox for sure though.
#9
Warthog Wrote:They were supposed to play SV on Saturday as well and had to cancel that game as well

It is not just Johnson Central.
Ole JR is a smart individual. He had to cancel 2 games because they went so far in the All A. He figured that he may have to play JC or SV down the road in the region. Why would he want to play them now? Smart move JR
#10
Belfry will give Junior a game! :popcorn:
#11
Tiger77 Wrote:Looks like Betsy Layne went from a team that likes to run to a team that likes to run scared.

Scared?? JR Newsome is a top 3 coach in the 15th region and it's not because he's scared. They have simply made deep runs in 3 tournaments and had to scratch some games. The AD makes those decisions anyway, there are other factors that go in to who you play and who you don't. Depending on scheduling and trying to make up weather delayed district games it's not as black and white as you make it seem. IMO it would take a pretty big upset on a given night to beat JCHS so there's no plus to a regular season meeting.
#12
Glad they didn't cancel on us, that's our varsity court night. If we can get some football rowdies out, we might get us a decent crowd (obviously it's always a little more crowded for varsity court) ... imagine how tough of a place Pond Creek could be to play with half the football support.

You guys have to consider Coach Newsome's motives, you don't know what that man is thinking? Maybe he owes Jenkins a game, etc. Always assuming the worse!
#13
Betsy Lane might be a little scared, but i wouldn't blame them for not wanting to re schedule Central this year. If you all remember correctly, Betsy Lane had a pretty good record last year when Central rolled in to Floyd County and destroyed them by about 25, and could of been worse if McKenzie hadn't called off the dogs.
#14
Betsy Lane also cancel 2 games with LC.
Playing cupcakes gets you know where.I would want my team 2 play the best teams in the region.
#15
GCK24 Wrote:Scared?? JR Newsome is a top 3 coach in the 15th region and it's not because he's scared. They have simply made deep runs in 3 tournaments and had to scratch some games. The AD makes those decisions anyway, there are other factors that go in to who you play and who you don't. Depending on scheduling and trying to make up weather delayed district games it's not as black and white as you make it seem. IMO it would take a pretty big upset on a given night to beat JCHS so there's no plus to a regular season meeting.

Good point. The chances of them beating JC twice is much less likely than beating them once. Why not get that one win in the Regional tourny. If its only gonna happen once, why not then? I'd say there is more "looking to the future, rather than the present" than anything. JR will have his team prepared for JC regardless of how many times they play them during the season. One of the better game-preparation guys in the business. I highly doubt he is scared or he worries about his team's overall W-L record.
#16
Wildcat man Wrote:Betsy Lane also cancel 2 games with LC.
Playing cupcakes gets you know where.I would want my team 2 play the best teams in the region.

Easy there Wildcat man, Betsy Lane is 20-4. Pretty impressive until you look. Three wins against 2-14 Piarist, two wins against 5-15 South Floyd, two wins against 9-9 Allen Central and individual wins against 3-16 Fairview, 4-18 Phelps, 7-13 Paintsville, 8-14 Pikeville, 8-8 East Ridge, 10-10 Male and 11-11 North Laurel. That's 14 of their 20 wins against teams that are .500 or lower. Their other 6 wins are against teams with records of 11-10, 12-11, 12-9, 13-7, 15-7 and 16-7. Their schedule is one of the weakest in the 15th region. Come on Junior, step up and play somebody.
#17
Tiger77 Wrote:Easy there Wildcat man, Betsy Lane is 20-4. Pretty impressive until you look. Three wins against 2-14 Piarist, two wins against 5-15 South Floyd, two wins against 9-9 Allen Central and individual wins against 3-16 Fairview, 4-18 Phelps, 7-13 Paintsville, 8-14 Pikeville, 8-8 East Ridge, 10-10 Male and 11-11 North Laurel. That's 14 of their 20 wins against teams that are .500 or lower. Their other 6 wins are against teams with records of 11-10, 12-11, 12-9, 13-7, 15-7 and 16-7. Their schedule is one of the weakest in the 15th region. Come on Junior, step up and play somebody.

93.1 needs to have a whole show on this tough schedule.
#18
Phelps used to do the same thing years ago when Cambell coached yet come Tourney time they upset some people. There is something to be said about waiting to play the big games when they matter. JC beats BL now then BL feels inferior when it matters.
#19
Tiger77 Wrote:Easy there Wildcat man, Betsy Lane is 20-4. Pretty impressive until you look. Three wins against 2-14 Piarist, two wins against 5-15 South Floyd, two wins against 9-9 Allen Central and individual wins against 3-16 Fairview, 4-18 Phelps, 7-13 Paintsville, 8-14 Pikeville, 8-8 East Ridge, 10-10 Male and 11-11 North Laurel. That's 14 of their 20 wins against teams that are .500 or lower. Their other 6 wins are against teams with records of 11-10, 12-11, 12-9, 13-7, 15-7 and 16-7. Their schedule is one of the weakest in the 15th region. Come on Junior, step up and play somebody.

I like how you include 10-10 male like they are bad. That 10-10 would be about 20-5 in the 15th. They play in a weak district that's 8 wins but is that Jrs fault? Also snow has killed them this year, it's required that you get all of your district games in so then you have to schedule all the other games as best you can. I think this thread is a lot of crap people love to take shots at Betsy layne but in reality they are the second best team in the region regardless of who they have played. BTW I'm pretty sure it's not a cakewalk to make the semis of the all A state tournament.
#20
I absolutely love how people are questioning JR Newsome and his coaching ability. He's probably coached more years than most of your age. It's like telling George Jones how to sing country music. He knows what he's doing.
#21
Betsy Lane had another impressive win over a 5-16 team....real tough schedule
#22
Betsy Layne now has 21 wins and with Magoffin County losing last night that means that 16 of the 21 are against teams that are .500 or worse and 4 of their last 5 are against teams with losing records. They could finish with 26 wins and 20 be against teams with a losing record. WOW. I am impressed. 26-5 looks good in the record book.
#23
I hope they get in the same bracket at the region
#24
Just checked Johnson Central's schedule 15 teams of the 21 teams they have played going into last nights game at Magoffin County had winning records (Magoffin is now 11-11 after the loss). Wonder if Betsy Layne would have a winning record against our schedule.
#25
THOMCAT Wrote:Just checked Johnson Central's schedule 15 teams of the 21 teams they have played going into last nights game at Magoffin County had winning records (Magoffin is now 11-11 after the loss). Wonder if Betsy Layne would have a winning record against our schedule.


Why do you even care? The tourney starts in a couple weeks. Everything will play itself out.
#26
THOMCAT Wrote:Just checked Johnson Central's schedule 15 teams of the 21 teams they have played going into last nights game at Magoffin County had winning records (Magoffin is now 11-11 after the loss). Wonder if Betsy Layne would have a winning record against our schedule.

For sure
You act like they are horrible
#27
Johnson Central has the best player in the region by far and they could have showcased him more by playing a tougher schedule themselves. They have the resources to travel all over the state. Why criticize another team when anybody can get a reputation by not dodging anyone. Knott Central, Cordia, Hazard are close by and Lexington is not very far either. One could play Lafayette on a Friday and maybe Montgomery County on the way home. Just a thought and I'm sure not a Betsy Layne fan.
#28
Not from Betsy Layne. Hundreds of miles away, but:

1) Betsy Layne has ALREADY played the most games in the region. And you're mad they cancelled ONE?

2) Four of Betsy Layne's five remaining games are on the road. Might be easy opponents, but that's NOT a fun way to end the season. Plus with them being on the road, there might have been contracts/money/payouts to consider for canceling (because those teams would lose a home game).

3) Betsy Layne was NOT going to drop Magoffin. That's senior night for Betsy Layne. Plus, Johnson Central padded its schedule with two wins over Magoffin. But Betsy Layne can't play Magoffin twice?

4) Male might be 10-10, but it beat Bardstown (15-5), Cordia (18-7) and Shelby Valley (16-7). Male is a GOOD win.

5) If Betsy Layne had beaten Cordia in All 'A' State, Betsy Layne would have had to cancel TWO games (including what would have been a home game for another team).

6) Teams have EIGHT common opponents. Not a hugely different schedule as people are trying to make it out to be. Those opponents are: Belfry (JC won, Belfry will play), East Ridge (BL won, JC won), Magoffin (BL won, BL will play, JC won, JC won), Paintsville (BL won, BL will play, JC won, JC won), Pike Central (BL won, BL lost, JC will play), Prestonsburg (BL won, BL will play, JC will play) and Shelby Valley (BL won, JC won).

7) Not sure if "saving its record" is a good argument. Is there a big difference if Betsy Layne finishes 26-4 (assuming it wins out) or 25-5 (wins four games and loses the once-scheduled Johnson Central game)? I don't think there's a difference at all.
#29
Betsy Layne is in the 58th with SF/AC/P-Burg/Piarist...That's 10 games atleast right there.

They have to play the P-Burg game, so they can't cancel that one.

Jenkins is the Cavs' senior night.

Magoffin is their Senior Night at BL.

That leaves Paintsville/Belfry. Could've been Homecoming for those schools.

Not everyone can go to or gets invited to the Mr. Basketball Classic, Tourneys in Lexington and L-Ville, etc.

Johnson Central/Betsy Layne are not top 5 in the 14th, so I don't see the point in comparing schedules.

It's not all in who you play, but WHO you BEAT!
#30
tommy2 Wrote:93.1 needs to have a whole show on this tough schedule.

BL can't help that some of their district opponents have poor records. Next year, maybe we say the same thing about Shelby Valley or 59th District teams when they play Piarist twice per season.

They had these teams on the schedule and had to cancel because they had success in tournaments. Is that what you call "running"?

What benefit would it have for ANY team that thinks itself as a contender to win a title in ANY sport to play their toughest competition two weeks prior to a possibly matchup against them in a game that really counts anyway? That's a serious question to contemplate.

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