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Replacing Reagular Season Squads with Competion Squads for Tounaments!
#61
"EKYMAMA" Wrote:Right off the bat let`s get the truth straight. For those saying the freshman left the JCHS squad because they didn`t want to work hard, there are still 3 freshman on the comp. that you generalize in using the term freshman. For the exact statistics, 17 of the original 25 girls chosen for the comp. squad quit. Out of these 17 only 4 were freshman. If you can do the math,that left 13 girls that were not freshman. next, lets look at the facts that these freshman,were coached by Neva Bentley and everyone knows there is know tougher coach than her. From what I`ve heard she`s been undeafeated for the last two years! Which included these freshman girls,so evidently hard work was not a problem. So let`s get facts straight that Sturgills practices are weak and unorganized not to mention run by a few upper classman. So in closing, let me say, beware of false information trying to cover up the down fall of the squad.

If you attended the Winterfest Cheer Competition a few weeks ago,,,, you would have seen the middle school squad receive a second place trophy/
#62
"cheergirl" Wrote:If you attended the Winterfest Cheer Competition a few weeks ago,,,, you would have seen the middle school squad receive a second place trophy/

If you had read this closely you would have seen I was talking about when those girls attended!They are now freshman!
#63
Man what a thread to read! From all the information that I have read, it doesn't sound to fair to sit the girls who have been cheering all season long with a group that is supposed to cheer competions only. Also, I have seen both the middle and high school cheerleaders from Johnson County and from what I have seen over the years. It appears that the middle school girls have always appeared to be more disciplined than the high school squads. So that makes me also question. What is the problem when they get to the high school? I mean if you have that many girls quit a squad, that should make you raise an eyebrow. To me it sounds like their coach needs to forget what the girls, parents and everybody else thinks and run her squad like she is the one in charge. As for coaching two different squads, it sounds like she has bitten off more than she can chew. As for the girls that quit I also agree that they shouldn't be allowed back. BUT, I also agree with what was said earlier, that we all make mistakes, God knows I have, and it shouldn't be held agaist them when it comes time next year. We all do deserve second chances.
Sorry if I stepped on any toes. But, I just had to post on this one after I sit and read it all. Good Luck to all the girls no matter when and where they cheer!:Wave:
#64
"Ridge Runner" Wrote:Man what a thread to read! From all the information that I have read, it doesn't sound to fair to sit the girls who have been cheering all season long with a group that is supposed to cheer competions only. Also, I have seen both the middle and high school cheerleaders from Johnson County and from what I have seen over the years. It appears that the middle school girls have always appeared to be more disciplined than the high school squads. So that makes me also question. What is the problem when they get to the high school? I mean if you have that many girls quit a squad, that should make you raise an eyebrow. To me it sounds like their coach needs to forget what the girls, parents and everybody else thinks and run her squad like she is the one in charge. As for coaching two different squads, it sounds like she has bitten off more than she can chew. As for the girls that quit I also agree that they shouldn't be allowed back. BUT, I also agree with what was said earlier, that we all make mistakes, God knows I have, and it shouldn't be held agaist them when it comes time next year. We all do deserve second chances.
Sorry if I stepped on any toes. But, I just had to post on this one after I sit and read it all. Good Luck to all the girls no matter when and where they cheer!:Wave:

All the girls on the comp squad have cheered games all year long either on the black or gold squads. The comp squad was simply put together for that reason. They, both sponsors, wanted to put together the best team possible to represent JCHS, but as we all know, things don't always go as planned. I myself like this situation, I believe that some more cheerleaders will come out to be part of the atmosphere in the regular season and not have to worry about extra training for the grueling competitons. This is a very tough competition. One mistake can cost a years worth of practice! Some girls don't want that pressure. They want to have fun on the sidelines!:Cheerlead
#65
"jchsrulz" Wrote:All the girls on the comp squad have cheered games all year long either on the black or gold squads. The comp squad was simply put together for that reason. They, both sponsors, wanted to put together the best team possible to represent JCHS, but as we all know, things don't always go as planned. I myself like this situation, I believe that some more cheerleaders will come out to be part of the atmosphere in the regular season and not have to worry about extra training for the grueling competitons. This is a very tough competition. One mistake can cost a years worth of practice! Some girls don't want that pressure. They want to have fun on the sidelines!:Cheerlead

From what I have read, I realize that they cheered on both squads. Was just posting an opinion based on what was posted. Must say this was a very interesting thread to read. From what I could tell everyone had some good points and statements. Sounds like it was an up and down year though. I just hope that the girls can support each other no matter what. Maybe the girls that quit this year, just needed a break. They may come back next year and be ready to roll and be a big boost for the team. As for the pressure, I really don't think it is that. Almost all of the girls have done it for years and to me, cheerleaders are very focused and have ice in their veins! LOL!! It does seem that there may be a problem with the amount of girls to quit, not just freshman, but sophamores and juniors. Well, This will be my last reply. Like I said, I just had to post my opinion, (which I am entitled to), since I went through the trouble of reading the whole thing.
#66
"Ridge Runner" Wrote:From what I have read, I realize that they cheered on both squads. Was just posting an opinion based on what was posted. Must say this was a very interesting thread to read. From what I could tell everyone had some good points and statements. Sounds like it was an up and down year though. I just hope that the girls can support each other no matter what. Maybe the girls that quit this year, just needed a break. They may come back next year and be ready to roll and be a big boost for the team. As for the pressure, I really don't think it is that. Almost all of the girls have done it for years and to me, cheerleaders are very focused and have ice in their veins! LOL!! It does seem that there may be a problem with the amount of girls to quit, not just freshman, but sophamores and juniors. Well, This will be my last reply. Like I said, I just had to post my opinion, (which I am entitled to), since I went through the trouble of reading the whole thing.
You seem too have a level head and have soom good comments, I was just trying to provide a little info and put my 2 cents in. I may be broke before too long thogh. LOL:thanks:
#67
Alot of the schools aren`t going to be happy competing against the competion squad! If they only knew it wasn`t there regular squad, the black or gold. Wonder how things will turn out? JC always has to cheat!Confusederved:
#68
"EKYMAMA" Wrote:Alot of the schools aren`t going to be happy competing against the competion squad! If they only knew it wasn`t there regular squad, the black or gold. Wonder how things will turn out? JC always has to cheat!Confusederved:

Okay, you obviously put this on here to make people believe this is a totally different group of girls. Shewww....here it is folks. The competition squad is made up of the same group of girls who cheer either on the black or gold squad. These are the SAME girls who have cheered ALL games this season. The only difference is that it is just a combination of both squads MINUS a few. Obviously someone is upset that their girl either QUIT the competiton squad or was never on it in the first place. Remember...this is a competition squad which is COMPETING in the district tournament.
#69
"EKYMAMA" Wrote:Alot of the schools aren`t going to be happy competing against the competion squad! If they only knew it wasn`t there regular squad, the black or gold. Wonder how things will turn out? JC always has to cheat!Confusederved:

WAHH WAHH WAHH!!!:Sad04: I'm gonna tell my mommy! You called us cheaters!!
If you are gonna serve, at least make mine a Miller Lite!!:beerwez: :moon:
#70
Oh, by the way...if the competiton squad didn't cheer the district who would? The black or the gold squad? Sounds like they made the right choice by picking the squad that is made up of both to me!!
#71
If they had made the right choices they would have made it past the first rounds in Florida. Look at the pictures on varisty.com and see the how the girls looked. They looked not focused, didn`t even look like a team. The other girls looked more professional! I`m glad I was there to wittness this. Sturgill needs to do something or get out ! Several of the stunts weren`t even thrown. All this hard work for nothing but embarrasement. I`m glad my daughter is not at this level to cheer. I`m sure when she is she`ll not cheer unless things change!
#72
Well cheering at a game and at a competition are 2 completely different things so sure why not sounds like a good idea to have 2 separate squads....
#73
"EKYMAMA" Wrote:If they had made the right choices they would have made it past the first rounds in Florida. Look at the pictures on varisty.com and see the how the girls looked. They looked not focused, didn`t even look like a team. The other girls looked more professional! I`m glad I was there to wittness this. Sturgill needs to do something or get out ! Several of the stunts weren`t even thrown. All this hard work for nothing but embarrasement. I`m glad my daughter is not at this level to cheer. I`m sure when she is she`ll not cheer unless things change!

Don't take this in a bad way, but if it hasn't changed you have three options:
1. Not cheer
2. Transfer schools
3. Deal with it

Don't you just love America!!!Confusedalute:
#74
"EKYMAMA" Wrote:If they had made the right choices they would have made it past the first rounds in Florida. Look at the pictures on varisty.com and see the how the girls looked. They looked not focused, didn`t even look like a team. The other girls looked more professional! I`m glad I was there to wittness this. Sturgill needs to do something or get out ! Several of the stunts weren`t even thrown. All this hard work for nothing but embarrasement. I`m glad my daughter is not at this level to cheer. I`m sure when she is she`ll not cheer unless things change!

This thread has gone on long enough. I'm not certain if you are an adult or a child. You say you have a daughter so I am assuming that you are an adult. Your comments are only hurting children. Would you want someone to write something about your daughter on this website? Those girls have worked so hard and do not deserve the negative attention that this thread and posts such as yours have done.

I was actually in Florida with the JCHS competition squad. I can tell all who read this thread that they conducted themselves in a manner that would make anyone associated with Johnson Central and Eastern Kentucky proud. I was proud of them,,,not only on how well they did with their routine, because they did do well,,,,,,,,but also with their behavior and attitudes. They are a lovely group of young ladies and I think it is about time that they get the respect that they deserve.

Some of the people who have posted on this thread should use their behavior as an example.
#75
"Ridge Runner" Wrote:From what I have read, I realize that they cheered on both squads. Was just posting an opinion based on what was posted. Must say this was a very interesting thread to read. From what I could tell everyone had some good points and statements. Sounds like it was an up and down year though. I just hope that the girls can support each other no matter what. Maybe the girls that quit this year, just needed a break. They may come back next year and be ready to roll and be a big boost for the team. As for the pressure, I really don't think it is that. Almost all of the girls have done it for years and to me, cheerleaders are very focused and have ice in their veins! LOL!! It does seem that there may be a problem with the amount of girls to quit, not just freshman, but sophamores and juniors. Well, This will be my last reply. Like I said, I just had to post my opinion, (which I am entitled to), since I went through the trouble of reading the whole thing.


:thumb: Nice Post Ridge Runner! :thumb:
#76
"EKYMAMA" Wrote:If they had made the right choices they would have made it past the first rounds in Florida. Look at the pictures on varisty.com and see the how the girls looked. They looked not focused, didn`t even look like a team. The other girls looked more professional! I`m glad I was there to wittness this. Sturgill needs to do something or get out ! Several of the stunts weren`t even thrown. All this hard work for nothing but embarrasement. I`m glad my daughter is not at this level to cheer. I`m sure when she is she`ll not cheer unless things change!
:no: :boo:

Well, I have been laying low and just reading. But, I have to say something on this one. Since I started it. YES, I spoke what was my opinion about the coach. Which I am entitled to and which happens to tons more coaches on here. Then, I left it alone. The only thing that kills me though, is what is said outside those gym doors and oh how fast it changes once they go inside the doors. I will say this also towards Ms. Sturgill, at least she and everyone knows how I felt and I was straight forward and up front, unlike alot of others who stand out there, talk alot and then walk in with their second face on! If she only knew how many knives were in her back. Confusedecret: I WILL NOT, say any names, but they know who they are. NOW, one thing I NEVER, EVER did was say anything negative towards the girls. Heck, I have lugged over half of them around, fed them and they have stayed at my house. I love them to death. They have worked their tails off and I am sure that they did the best they could in Florida. By the way Good Job girls. I am sure that you represented JCHS and KY well.
I have to agree with JCHSRULZ on this one EKYMAMA. They listed 3 options. Choose one!

As for everyone telling me what they think is wrong, and what should be done, and telling me "put this on the site". Well, if you want it here, put it here yourself and Just stay away. I am only there to watch the kids play ball and cheer while they are young. Cause they will be gone before you know it and you will wish to God you could see them out there again. So watch them have fun and enjoy them. Cause they are watching everything you do!:Wave:

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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
I just hope that the girls can support each other no matter what. Maybe the girls that quit this year, just needed a break. They may come back next year and be ready to roll and be a big boost for the team.

:theman: :mad: :loveya: :lol: :thanks:

Everyone of you know who I am. Except my daughter. She has know clue and has never spoken a harsh word of anyone. She is happy with where she is right now and has never complained. I just hope everyone will read what Ridge Runner wrote and take his advice.
Good Luck in the Districts JC!:Cheerlead

Ladies and Gentlemen, Elvis has left the building!
#77
EKYMAMA! If you don't have one at this level. Then why worry or speak? Your time will come when you have a dog in the fight.
#78
First of all, Half step is right in the respect of not saying names in his views. He did state his opinions which is his right. I also respect that he did wish the girls well in Fl. But now ekymama's comments on their focus and professionalism is "DEAD WRONG". She says she was there, if she was she sure missed very poor performances by other schools. Alot of teams really had bad days down there. Dropped mounts, tumbling into each other and they still advanced, the girls had a good showing, maybe not the best, but certainly good enough to move on. On the Competition Squad deal, this was started at try-outs, everybody knew what was going on from the start. The Competition Squad was put together, for one reason "ONLY", that was for the girls who wanted to compete, because some girls in years past didn't want to compete, but they wanted to cheer games. Yes, there was alot of girls that did quit early, for what reasons, it doesn't matter. Alot of people Have questioned Miss Sturgill and Mrs. Green about this. But they have worked with the girls that truly wanted to stay. These girls that are left have worked very hard. The girls that have left are very talented, too. But if they are not there to work with how can you blame the coach. Most of the young ladies that left where young. This is a different game in High School, because there are so many things to do other than cheerleading. So alot of talented kids get into other things, nobody fault just High School. Could JCHS have won with the other girls, only "God" could answer that. Maybe they would have done great or not. When Freshman come in they are at the bottom again, just like in 4th grade and as 7th Graders. When you come to High School Sports, you have to "PROVE" yourself "AGAIN", because others are sometimes jealous of the "NEW GIRL WITH TALENT COMING IN". I have been there with my Daughter, it was painful at times to see her go through that. But she stuck with it and overcame it. Before you are quick to "BLAST" a Coach or any Coach, find out the entire truth about the matter at hand, then either speak to the coach or advise your child accordingly.
#79
If Sturgill is so "GREAT" than list her accomplishments in the last six years! Not very many wins are they!:lmao:
#80
what about pburg adding a girl at the last minute who hasn't cheered or did not try out for cheerleading. Any thoughts on that? I heart the want to compete against sf and not pikeville.
#81
I guess JCHS has not had very many winnings, because I`ve not had a response!!!!!
#82
oh, don't worry i will have you some results, later.
#83
"EKYMAMA" Wrote:I guess JCHS has not had very many winnings, because I`ve not had a response!!!!!
I can't say for sure the accomplishments in the last 6 years, but I can for the past 3
2003-1st place district game situation
1st place district KAPOS at large
1st place KAPOS regional large varsity
5th place KAPOS State at Large large varsity
2004-same as 2003 plus UCA National semi-finalist
2005-1st place district in game plus KAPOS at large
1st place KAPOS region at large small varsity
2006-1st place small varsity Battle of the Bluegrass.
#84
EKYMAMA!
SO are you satisfied now that you have the results??
#85
"justwatching" Wrote:what about pburg adding a girl at the last minute who hasn't cheered or did not try out for cheerleading. Any thoughts on that? I heart the want to compete against sf and not pikeville.

If I'm not mistaken, Paintsville HS did this recently as well. They added a middle schooler, who actually joined the middle school squad mid year, then got to move up to Varsity and began cheering those games. I think this is unfair to the middle cheerleaders who...#1 had to change routines/formations when she and a few other girls got to join the squad mid stream....#2 The MS squad then had to change again because she left the squad and began cheering with the HS. Does that seem fair?
#86
"eagleclaw" Wrote:I can't say for sure the accomplishments in the last 6 years, but I can for the past 3
2003-1st place district game situation
1st place district KAPOS at large
1st place KAPOS regional large varsity
5th place KAPOS State at Large large varsity
2004-same as 2003 plus UCA National semi-finalist
2005-1st place district in game plus KAPOS at large
1st place KAPOS region at large small varsity
2006-1st place small varsity Battle of the Bluegrass.

DANG!!!!!!!
I thought Sturgill sucked!LOL
Looks like a purdy good resume to me.
Don't like your surroundings, move on!
#87
"OnTheMove" Wrote:If I'm not mistaken, Paintsville HS did this recently as well. They added a middle schooler, who actually joined the middle school squad mid year, then got to move up to Varsity and began cheering those games. I think this is unfair to the middle cheerleaders who...#1 had to change routines/formations when she and a few other girls got to join the squad mid stream....#2 The MS squad then had to change again because she left the squad and began cheering with the HS. Does that seem fair?
At Paintsville, during a practice their coach allowed the cheerleaders to raise their hand if they only wanted to cheer games and not comps. about four raised their hands and were allowed to leave and didn't have to practice when they were getting ready for comps. Then she thought she needed at least one more cheerleader for comps and decided to pull up from the middle school. This is allowed as it is in their handbook. But after a few weeks, she made the other girls return to cheer in comps. The strange thing is, that they have not cheered any comps other than in game, and are not cheering KAPOS, or anywhere else that we are aware of.
#88
About the whole Prestonsburg situation, from what i have heard they pulled up an alternate for competition just because in their routine there was a mount that was strugling and to make it safer they pulled up that girl. So being that they had 12 girls they would have to move up a division, not sure how true this is but if pikeville and johnson central does it then why is it such a big deal! Again that information is just from what i have heard not sure how true.. can any one confirm this?
#89
As promised for EKYMAMA, I hope the following will serve to show the Anita Sturgill is a good Coach. Most of the girls that quit just didn't want to Cheer and I respect that from them. For whatever reason it doesn't matter, I "DO NOT" think that is a big deal. But, we as Humans are never "satisfied" with Coaches decisions. These people who choose to Coach, do so with little pay, if any. They spend many hours doing this, and it does take alot of time. Also, Coach Mattney, Coach Starnes, and Coach Hall are very good Coaches, they make mistakes sometimes, people also quit from thier teams as well. But nobody is sitting here blasting them on the way they Coach. I guess what I'm am trying to say is, Good Athletes are in every sport at JC, Good Athletes also quit at JC. JC has the best Athletes up and down the river, each and every kid at JC are "Winners" PERIOD. But enough of that, it is time for your list:

2006
*Battle of the Bluegrass-1st Place/Medium Varsity

2004-2005
*57th District In-Game Situation/1st Place
*KAPOS District-at-Large/1st Place-2 1/2 Minute Routine
*KAPOS Region-at-Large/1st Place-2 1/2 Minute Routine
*KAPOS State-at-Large(Small Varsity)-9th Place
*NCA/Cheers for the Holiday @ Transy/ 1st Place
*Bluegrass Regional Bid to Nationals/4th Place
*UCA Nationals/Superior Squad

2003-2004
*57th District In-Game Situation/1st Place
*KAPOS District-at-Large/1st Place-2 1/2 Minute Routine
*KAPOS Region-at-Large/1st Place-2 1/2 Minute Routine
*Kapos State-at-Large/5th Place(Large)-2 1/2 Minute Routine
*Bluegrass Regional Bid for Nationals/3rd Place
*UCA Nationals/Semi-Finalist

2002-2003
*57th District In-Game Situation/1st Place
*KAPOS District-at-Large/1st Place-2 1/2 Minute Routine
*KAPOS Region-at-Large/1st Place-2 1/2 Minute Routine
*KAPOS State-at-Large/5th Place(Large)-2 1/2 Minute Routine

2001-2002
*57th District In-Game Situation/1st Place
*KAPOS District-at-Large/1st Place-2 1/2 Minute Routine
*KAPOS Region-at-Large/1st Place(Large)-2 1/2 Minute Routine
*Holiday Classic/2nd Place

Huh, Impressive I would say.


A Quote from "jchsrulz", DO LIKE YOUR SURROUNDINGS, MOVE ON.

Keep a stepping "MAMA".
#90
"jchsrulz" Wrote:DANG!!!!!!!
I thought Sturgill sucked!LOL
Looks like a purdy good resume to me.
Don't like your surroundings, move on!

DANG!!! She still doesn`t look impressive to me. She still sucks!!!

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