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12-23-2013, 09:14 PM
This must have been a great game. Congratulation panthers
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12-23-2013, 11:12 PM
It was a good game. Pretty much Bigs vs Littles. Anderson shot 33 percent from the field including 1-15 shooting in 4th quarter when game got away from them. Congrats to etown. Really good team and well coached.
12-24-2013, 10:05 PM
Not many fouls called 12 against Anderson and 5 against etown entire game.
12-25-2013, 05:16 PM
http://www.thenewsenterprise.com/content...ounty-1224
According to the link:
- Elizabethtown outrebounded (had more rebounds than) Anderson, 37-26. Boley and Cleaver combined for 25 (TWENTY-FIVE) by themselves ... one less than Anderson's entire team.
- Elizabethtown shot 44.68 percent from the field (21 of 47), while Anderson shot just 31.37 percent (16 of 51). Anderson took four more shots, but made five fewer.
- Both teams attempted less than 10 free throws each. Elizabethtown was 6-9, Anderson was 1-2. Even if Anderson went 9-for-9 (matching Elizabethtown's attempts), it still loses. Plus, E'town is a zone team which routinely shoots far more free throws than its opponents
-- For one, zone teams are LESS likely to draw fouls than man-to-man checking and pressing teams.
-- For a second, Elizabethtown has depth, which means it's hard to keep its main guns in foul trouble.
-- For a third, Boley and Cleaver go to the rim. Cann and a lot of AC players don't. They stay outside, as witnessed by their 25-PLUS 3-point attempts. AC also hoisted up a ton of 3s even when it had LaRue down double digits. Teams that jack up a bunch of perimeter shots are LESS likely to shoot as many free throws as teams which work it inside, like Boley and Cleaver do for E'town.
- For a fourth, E'town is not a "reach-in" team. It gets steals, but most steals for E'town come from putting players in bad spots and anticipating the next pass. Not from trying to poke the ball away and hope the ref misses the reach-in.
Here's a stat box from the game:
ELIZABETHTOWN 51, ANDERSON COUNTY 42
Elizabethtown 11 12 11 17—51
Anderson County 15 6 17 4—42
Elizabethtown (8-1)
Erin Boley 19, Reauna Cleaver 15, Darien Huff 5, Jada Stinson 5, Livie Bowling 4, Rachel Warden 3.
FG: 21-47.
FT: 6-9.
3-pointers: 3-9 (Huff 1-3, Boley 1-2, Warden 1-2, Kinsey Mudd 0-2).
Rebs: 36 (Cleaver 13, Boley 12).
Assists: 8 (Bowling 3, Warden 2).
Steals: 4 (Huff 3, Cleaver 1).
Anderson County(10-2)
Makenzie Cann 19, Eriel McKee 11, Destiny Stewart 6, Jessica Rice 3, Corrin Robinson 3.
FG: 16-51.
FT: 1-2.
3-pointers: 9-27 (Cann 4-11, Stewart 2-5, McKee 1-3, Robinson 1-3, Rice 1-2, Kaci Currens 0-2, Alex Avritt 0-1).
Rebs: 27 (McKee 13, Cann 4).
Assists: 11 (Cann 5, Rice 2).
Steals: 3 (Rice 1, Avritt 1, Robinson 1).
According to the link:
- Elizabethtown outrebounded (had more rebounds than) Anderson, 37-26. Boley and Cleaver combined for 25 (TWENTY-FIVE) by themselves ... one less than Anderson's entire team.
- Elizabethtown shot 44.68 percent from the field (21 of 47), while Anderson shot just 31.37 percent (16 of 51). Anderson took four more shots, but made five fewer.
- Both teams attempted less than 10 free throws each. Elizabethtown was 6-9, Anderson was 1-2. Even if Anderson went 9-for-9 (matching Elizabethtown's attempts), it still loses. Plus, E'town is a zone team which routinely shoots far more free throws than its opponents
-- For one, zone teams are LESS likely to draw fouls than man-to-man checking and pressing teams.
-- For a second, Elizabethtown has depth, which means it's hard to keep its main guns in foul trouble.
-- For a third, Boley and Cleaver go to the rim. Cann and a lot of AC players don't. They stay outside, as witnessed by their 25-PLUS 3-point attempts. AC also hoisted up a ton of 3s even when it had LaRue down double digits. Teams that jack up a bunch of perimeter shots are LESS likely to shoot as many free throws as teams which work it inside, like Boley and Cleaver do for E'town.
- For a fourth, E'town is not a "reach-in" team. It gets steals, but most steals for E'town come from putting players in bad spots and anticipating the next pass. Not from trying to poke the ball away and hope the ref misses the reach-in.
Here's a stat box from the game:
ELIZABETHTOWN 51, ANDERSON COUNTY 42
Elizabethtown 11 12 11 17—51
Anderson County 15 6 17 4—42
Elizabethtown (8-1)
Erin Boley 19, Reauna Cleaver 15, Darien Huff 5, Jada Stinson 5, Livie Bowling 4, Rachel Warden 3.
FG: 21-47.
FT: 6-9.
3-pointers: 3-9 (Huff 1-3, Boley 1-2, Warden 1-2, Kinsey Mudd 0-2).
Rebs: 36 (Cleaver 13, Boley 12).
Assists: 8 (Bowling 3, Warden 2).
Steals: 4 (Huff 3, Cleaver 1).
Anderson County(10-2)
Makenzie Cann 19, Eriel McKee 11, Destiny Stewart 6, Jessica Rice 3, Corrin Robinson 3.
FG: 16-51.
FT: 1-2.
3-pointers: 9-27 (Cann 4-11, Stewart 2-5, McKee 1-3, Robinson 1-3, Rice 1-2, Kaci Currens 0-2, Alex Avritt 0-1).
Rebs: 27 (McKee 13, Cann 4).
Assists: 11 (Cann 5, Rice 2).
Steals: 3 (Rice 1, Avritt 1, Robinson 1).
12-26-2013, 12:39 AM
Pick6 Wrote:Its not often a team gets out rebounded, has less field goals and less assists, yet wins by double digits! This one reeks!
I'm looking at the OFFICIAL boxscore sent out by LexCath/WL Stats from the E'town-Simon Kenton game.
Boxscore: http://www.thenewsenterprise.com/sites/w...thtown.jpg
- E'town did NOT get outrebounded. Elizabethtown had 27 rebounds, SK had 25. SK had just one player grab more than four rebounds. Boley had nine defensive rebounds by herself -- SK had 13 total as a team. ... Might want to put a body on Boley, no?
- E'town had less field goals (22-18), but Elizabethtown shot a better percentage (51.4 to 41.5). E'town shot 58.8 percent in the second half, including 7-of-11 inside the arc. SK was 10-of-22 on 2s in the second half. That's a 63.6-45.5 difference percentage-wise on what should be "bunnies".
- SK did have more assists, but E'town still had assists on 12-of-18 field goals. 75 percent is pretty good for high school. SK had MORE assists, but in actuality, LESS of its baskets came via assist. E'town had a 75 percent assist-to-FG percentage (12 of 18), SK was 72.2 (16 of 22). Each team had six baskets which weren't assisted.
-- So your rebound argument was moot (SK got outrebounded).
-- Your FG argument is moot (E'town shot a better percentage, including way better in the second half from close range.
-- Your assists argument is moot (Elizabethtown had MORE of its baskets, percentage wise, assisted than SK did.
Things you did NOT mention:
- SK had two starters go scoreless in a combined 36 minutes. Two reserves who played more than 10 minutes each scored a combined five points. So out of four players playing a combined 59-plus minutes, SK got a mere five points out of those girls. ... Um, why were those four girls on the floor, exactly? Can't be for their great defense, considering Boley went nuts, Cleaver and Huff both reached double figures and E'town hung a season high on SK. ... If they're not contributing, get em off the floor.
- Boley for E'town was 9-of-10 from the foul line. If SK did its research, it would have realized Boley shoots LESS than 60 percent from the field, but routinely OVER 80 from the foul line. She's among the best in the state from the stripe and will set several E'town school records. ... Bottom line, do NOT foul her. EVER. Hack-A-Boley does not have the same outcome as Hack-A-Shack.
- Bowling, Warden and Stinson combined for just 4 FG attempts, while Boley-Cleaver-Huff (who all have D-1 offers) combined for 25. ... If you wanna shut down E'town, you have to force Bowling-Warden-Stinson to shoot. Front Boley and Cleaver. Double EVERY TIME they get the ball, no matter where they are. Force them to give it up and make Warden-Bowling-Stinson think they have to shoot.
- SK had steals on 8 of E'town's 12 turnovers, but E'town had steals on 5-of-12. Which means SK had MORE unforced turnovers.
- Elizabethtown entered the game averaging MORE rebounds per game and MORE free-throw attempts per game than SK ... and then proceeded to grab more rebounds and shoot more free throws. Not sure why you're shocked.
As far as being "homered" ... Elizabethtown has yet to play a single home game this season. E'town's winning all of its games on the road and on neutral courts in a variety of venues (LexCath was Elizabethtown's fifth gym with three different regions' worth of refs). ... Maybe Notre Dame and Walton-Verona got "homered" when they played at SK?
12-26-2013, 12:05 PM
LOL. The neutral you speak of was the two schools there recruiting the SK point guard they spoke of a different tune when not in your fan section. Just sayin....
I will say this, unless the PG from SK had played her heart out this would have been bad.....she will make a great NAIA or D3 player. Loved her heart and game.
I will say this, unless the PG from SK had played her heart out this would have been bad.....she will make a great NAIA or D3 player. Loved her heart and game.
12-26-2013, 12:57 PM
Pick6 Wrote:Nothing you mention justifies 27 - 7 free throw discrepancy. Even the neutral college coaches watching remarked on the "unbalanced" officiating!
Just because there is a huge discrepancy in free throws does NOT necessarily mean there was "unbalanced" officiating.
Elizabethtown, for years, has shot more free throws than its opponents.
1) E'town attacks glass.
2) E'town does not reach (saving itself of fouls)
3) Etown blocks out (saving itself from over the back)
4) E'town plays a lot of zone (which lends itself to far less fouls man-to-back full court clutch and grab, like Pitino's Louisville teams)
5) E'town is good. I'm guessing Anderson and Marion both shot a ton more FTs than their opponents did last year, too, en route to the finals. ... Think that is just a coincidence of continual "unbalanced" officiating?
12-26-2013, 09:32 PM
It is a well known fact that SK holds, grabs, and hacks. No surprise that there would be a big free throw discrepancy.
12-26-2013, 11:44 PM
pick6 they beat you. And they will beat you again if you play.
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