[raider_2006]

They will do good.

[roadrunner]

But they are moving in the right direction.

:please:

[i-dono]

How well do the kids and coach mac. get along, and are they bying into his systom?

[roadrunner]

They will do good.

State champs the principal says.

[HeartOFaChampion]

State champs the principal says.

Well i wouldn't go that far but they will be good! GOOD LUCK HAWKS!:CE_DP_Ste

[roadrunner]

How well do the kids and coach mac. get along, and are they bying into his systom?

Not all of the "kids" love Mac. Have you seen the tales of some of them changing addresses? :beer:

[Layup Wizard]

Sure not all of the kids love Coach Mac, but more than likely they don't like the discipline and the work ethic Coach M demands. It will take a couple of years to change that program around. Those kids aren't used to organization and structure, things that it takes to build an organization, but Coach M will get it. they made vast improvements from last year, even though the record didn't show it, PC looked like a totally different ball club. Who knows if they can get some line play and consistancy at QB, possibly looking at a home game in the playoffs. They have one of the better backfields in the mountains.

[15thRegionFan]

PC has several players with nice potential. Right now some of those players aren't busting their tail in the weight room like they should be. In order for PC to be a contender in the future, these players need to step up, hit the weights hard, and not make excuses as to why they're not lifting!! It takes hard work and dedication to be successful!

[$~J-Money~$]

I wouldnt go that far....but he is very good. PC has Merchant and Varney returning....they also will have Corey Carter back from a knee injury, which is a huge addition. Joe Nichols and Zach Ratliff are returning at wideout. Joey Buckley and the previously mentioned players will also be back on defense. They are losing a good pass rush end in Corey Mullins. Also, Logan Clark on the o-line will be gone. Daniel "Tiny" Coleman, will be the best lineman returning. They are losing their QB, Justin Campbell, but are replacing him with a guy named Ethan Young. He is fairly tall, and can make the neccessary throws. The biggest loss for the Hawks, though, was irreplacible MLB and G Chadd Blackburn. He was the heart and soul for the team this season. I think, with some hard work in the weight room, the Hawks could be serious contenders in the district as soon as this season.

...I heard from a friend up at PC that Joe Nichols broke his forearm.....does ne1 know if he'll be back in time for football...if hes not back it will hurt Central....he has great hands and dosn't care to block for the awsome backfeild at central

[HawkNation]

i saw joe... didnt see a broken forearm... i heard of a few players bein inelligable... any idea who?

[i-dono]

Thats what I thought Layup...I figured Coach Mac would get rid of some of the "dead wood", and whip the team into shape...IMO some of the guys up there thought they were in a totaly different world making the transition from Poynter to Macname!

[OJ Simpson]

they will be alright

[former_raider80]

They will do alright...

[Smokey]

Sure not all of the kids love Coach Mac, but more than likely they don't like the discipline and the work ethic Coach M demands. It will take a couple of years to change that program around. Those kids aren't used to organization and structure, things that it takes to build an organization, but Coach M will get it. they made vast improvements from last year, even though the record didn't show it, PC looked like a totally different ball club. Who knows if they can get some line play and consistancy at QB, possibly looking at a home game in the playoffs. They have one of the better backfields in the mountains.

The improvements from last year came from coaching...the players were young and couldnt do much with McNamee's system...if they hit the weight room better, they could be competitive in a couple of years.
I dont know how vast these improvements were...PC was a team who beat SC and SV last year. They got 3rd in the district b/c they were competing w/the State Champs and a P-Burg team that, if not for Belfry, could have been the State champs themselves. So, I might call it a step back for PC now that I take a closer look.

[crazytaxidriver]

Thats what I thought Layup...I figured Coach Mac would get rid of some of the "dead wood", and whip the team into shape...IMO some of the guys up there thought they were in a totaly different world making the transition from Poynter to Macname!

From a pretty reliable source i heard it was a huge transition.. I was told it was easier, and if they had ran harder the record would have been different this past year.. They didn't run as much in practice, and you could tell.. They couldn't play the second half.

[i-dono]

The improvements from last year came from coaching...the players were young and couldnt do much with McNamee's system...if they hit the weight room better, they could be competitive in a couple of years.
I dont know how vast these improvements were...PC was a team who beat SC and SV last year. They got 3rd in the district b/c they were competing w/the State Champs and a P-Burg team that, if not for Belfry, could have been the State champs themselves. So, I might call it a step back for PC now that I take a closer look.

You make a good Point; but the hawks lost ALOT to the 2005 graduation! Mac. could do nothing about kids graduating...lol...I still couldn't understand why they weren't in top shape, this is not like a typical Chris Macnamee football team...his players are usualy well conditioned!!!

[roadrunner]

From a pretty reliable source i heard it was a huge transition.. I was told it was easier, and if they had ran harder the record would have been different this past year.. They didn't run as much in practice, and you could tell.. They couldn't play the second half.

I know your source, and he would be as reliable as they come. Maybe Mac is not the savior that everyone thinks. He was there before and did nothing. He has alot more help (asst.) than Poynter ever had. The board would not help Poynter. As far as gradation PC had thier best players in Gordan Varney and Quirvon Merchant returning and 5 staters on defense and 6 on offense back. So they should have been able to do something other than beating Evangel Christian, Phelps. Like Smokey said they just came off the best year in school history with there fair share of injuries. So you can beleive what you want. but facts are facts. :bounce:

[i-dono]

What is PC's weightlifting schedule?

[15thRegionFan]

The improvements from last year came from coaching...the players were young and couldnt do much with McNamee's system...if they hit the weight room better, they could be competitive in a couple of years.
I dont know how vast these improvements were...PC was a team who beat SC and SV last year. They got 3rd in the district b/c they were competing w/the State Champs and a P-Burg team that, if not for Belfry, could have been the State champs themselves. So, I might call it a step back for PC now that I take a closer look.

Yes in 2004 we beat Sheldon Clark and Shelby Valley. Yes we lost to them in 2005. Does that really mean we took a step back? Look at a Sheldon Clark team that finished 1-5 in district play during the 2004 season and a Sheldon Clark team that finished 5-2 in their District during 2005 with two losses to Belfry. Knocked off Breathitt Co. and a very nice Leslie Co. team AT leslie in the 2005 state playoffs. Completely different Sheldon Clark team. Then we take Valley who was 3-3 in district play this year losing to Belfry, Prestonsburg and SHELDON CLARK, compared to 2004 where Valley again went 3-3 in the district losing to Belfry, Prestonsburg, and PIKE CENTRAL. Our 2004 game with Valley could've went either way as it was a Triple Overtime ballgame AND the first game of the season (Pike County Bowl) We finished 3-3 in the district in 2004 under a system in which we were familiar with, and 2-4 in 2005 with a new offensive coordinater, new head coach, new line coach, new defensive coordinator. Give THIS COACHING STAFF three years to get these kids used to their system and their style of play,
(2004 was Poynters third year and we went 3-3 in District) and I can almost guarantee you that PC will have a much better district and overall record than that of the 2004 season. So our record may have been one more loss different than that of our 2004 season. But taking a step back? If anything, the Pike Central football program has taken a step forward by putting together an excellent coaching staff. You don't become a great team overnight, so all you PC fans just give it time, give this coaching staff a chance before saying they've taken a step back and such!

[15thRegionFan]

There's your facts!

[TheEssentialElement]

Yes in 2004 we beat Sheldon Clark and Shelby Valley. Yes we lost to them in 2005. Does that really mean we took a step back? Look at a Sheldon Clark team that finished 1-5 in district play during the 2004 season and a Sheldon Clark team that finished 5-2 in their District during 2005 with two losses to Belfry. Knocked off Breathitt Co. and a very nice Leslie Co. team AT leslie in the 2005 state playoffs. Completely different Sheldon Clark team. Then we take Valley who was 3-3 in district play this year losing to Belfry, Prestonsburg and SHELDON CLARK, compared to 2004 where Valley again went 3-3 in the district losing to Belfry, Prestonsburg, and PIKE CENTRAL. Our 2004 game with Valley could've went either way as it was a Triple Overtime ballgame AND the first game of the season (Pike County Bowl) We finished 3-3 in the district in 2004 under a system in which we were familiar with, and 2-4 in 2005 with a new offensive coordinater, new head coach, new line coach, new defensive coordinator. Give THIS COACHING STAFF three years to get these kids used to their system and their style of play,
(2004 was Poynters third year and we went 3-3 in District) and I can almost guarantee you that PC will have a much better district and overall record than that of the 2004 season. So our record may have been one more loss different than that of our 2004 season. But taking a step back? If anything, the Pike Central football program has taken a step forward by putting together an excellent coaching staff. You don't become a great team overnight, so all you PC fans just give it time, give this coaching staff a chance before saying they've taken a step back and such!

that is an f'in impecible post!

[roadrunner]

Yes in 2004 we beat Sheldon Clark and Shelby Valley. Yes we lost to them in 2005. Does that really mean we took a step back? Look at a Sheldon Clark team that finished 1-5 in district play during the 2004 season and a Sheldon Clark team that finished 5-2 in their District during 2005 with two losses to Belfry. Knocked off Breathitt Co. and a very nice Leslie Co. team AT leslie in the 2005 state playoffs. Completely different Sheldon Clark team. Then we take Valley who was 3-3 in district play this year losing to Belfry, Prestonsburg and SHELDON CLARK, compared to 2004 where Valley again went 3-3 in the district losing to Belfry, Prestonsburg, and PIKE CENTRAL. Our 2004 game with Valley could've went either way as it was a Triple Overtime ballgame AND the first game of the season (Pike County Bowl) We finished 3-3 in the district in 2004 under a system in which we were familiar with, and 2-4 in 2005 with a new offensive coordinater, new head coach, new line coach, new defensive coordinator. Give THIS COACHING STAFF three years to get these kids used to their system and their style of play,
(2004 was Poynters third year and we went 3-3 in District) and I can almost guarantee you that PC will have a much better district and overall record than that of the 2004 season. So our record may have been one more loss different than that of our 2004 season. But taking a step back? If anything, the Pike Central football program has taken a step forward by putting together an excellent coaching staff. You don't become a great team overnight, so all you PC fans just give it time, give this coaching staff a chance before saying they've taken a step back and such!

This staff has had a couple shots at trying to build a football at Pike central and have failed. But they are all of a sudden the savior. :BigLaugh: As for the teams that you lost too, like Sheldon Clark and Shelby Valley, the teams that Sheldon Clark beat were way way down, P-burg and Breathitt had the worst teams they have had in several years, and as far as Shelby Valley that team was bearly hanging by a thread as they had a new coach that quite a week into the season. (you guys had your coach for spring practice). The 2004 team that played in the Pike County bowl could have beaten alot of teams, but they didnt get to play, as most of them had some type of injury during the year. Yes Central does have a new coaching staff, something that the admin. would not give Poynter. He brought in a asst. and they told him they would him, meanwhile he had to teach at Phelps High School that is a hour away. Oh yes there was 2 teaching spots open in his area, that went to family members of the "powers to be". That is just one example of lack of support for the 04 staff ,there were plenty of others. As far as "new this and that" Poynter first year he had only 2 starters out of 22 coming back and he won the most games in school history. I think you may be right about give them 3 years and there record make be better than 04 but there district will not. There are alot of Evangel Christians out there to help pad that record, but try to at least play a boys team not one with 13 coed players. And that is part of the FACTS.:redboxer:

[$~J-Money~$]

i have an update on Joe Nichols....I talked to him a few days ago and he has a brace from his hand to his elbow....he told me that the x-rays said that his forarm is fractured right at the top of his wrist and part of his growth plate is cracked.....but he said if he lets it heal it will be alright but if he trys to do to much to soon and re-injures it....then it could mess up his growth plate 4 good......so hes gonna let it heal throughout the remainder of basketball and be ready 4 spring training....hes already missed 3 weeks of bball already and will miss 2-3 more

[Smokey]

This staff has had a couple shots at trying to build a football at Pike central and have failed. But they are all of a sudden the savior. :BigLaugh: As for the teams that you lost too, like Sheldon Clark and Shelby Valley, the teams that Sheldon Clark beat were way way down, P-burg and Breathitt had the worst teams they have had in several years, and as far as Shelby Valley that team was bearly hanging by a thread as they had a new coach that quite a week into the season. (you guys had your coach for spring practice). The 2004 team that played in the Pike County bowl could have beaten alot of teams, but they didnt get to play, as most of them had some type of injury during the year. Yes Central does have a new coaching staff, something that the admin. would not give Poynter. He brought in a asst. and they told him they would him, meanwhile he had to teach at Phelps High School that is a hour away. Oh yes there was 2 teaching spots open in his area, that went to family members of the "powers to be". That is just one example of lack of support for the 04 staff ,there were plenty of others. As far as "new this and that" Poynter first year he had only 2 starters out of 22 coming back and he won the most games in school history. I think you may be right about give them 3 years and there record make be better than 04 but there district will not. There are alot of Evangel Christians out there to help pad that record, but try to at least play a boys team not one with 13 coed players. And that is part of the FACTS.:redboxer:

exactly right...PC had some excellent players. They should have been able to compete with SV and P-Burg. I was all for Mac at first....but I am worried. They dont lift enough. They all have a weight lifting class...but only lift 2 to 3 times a week. They also ran the same plays over and over again last year. I hope for the best....my lil brother plays for them. I just think if it is going to be done, they need to get into the weightroom..... fast.

[PantherPride68]

Chris McNamee IS the 3rd best coach in the region, behind Heywood, and Holcomb!

He should Have won 2 state titles, in 99', and 00'!, but he was out maned in 00', and the offenseive coordinator in 99' lost that one for them!. That year they BY FAR were the best 1A team in the state...Matt Branham, Chace Gibson, Barett Rogers, Chris Shuemate, and a few other guys that were great football players!

IMO 3 years, and Pike Cental will be a top program in the region, and state in 2A!

Id have to disagree with that you shouldve seen the mess he left coach J to try and clean up.

[roadrunner]

[QUOTE="Smokey"]exactly right...PC had some excellent players. They should have been able to compete with SV and P-Burg. I was all for Mac at first....but I am worried. They dont lift enough. They all have a weight lifting class...but only lift 2 to 3 times a week. They also ran the same plays over and over again last year. I hope for the best....my lil brother plays for them. I just think if it is going to be done, they need to get into the weightroom..... fast.[/QUOT

Poynter sure made us lift weights, run and go to football camp. But people tell us how the new staff cut the "deadwood" and really worked us hard. It was 10 times easier than before.

[15thRegionFan]

This staff has had a couple shots at trying to build a football at Pike central and have failed. But they are all of a sudden the savior. :BigLaugh: As for the teams that you lost too, like Sheldon Clark and Shelby Valley, the teams that Sheldon Clark beat were way way down, P-burg and Breathitt had the worst teams they have had in several years, and as far as Shelby Valley that team was bearly hanging by a thread as they had a new coach that quite a week into the season. (you guys had your coach for spring practice). The 2004 team that played in the Pike County bowl could have beaten alot of teams, but they didnt get to play, as most of them had some type of injury during the year. Yes Central does have a new coaching staff, something that the admin. would not give Poynter. He brought in a asst. and they told him they would him, meanwhile he had to teach at Phelps High School that is a hour away. Oh yes there was 2 teaching spots open in his area, that went to family members of the "powers to be". That is just one example of lack of support for the 04 staff ,there were plenty of others. As far as "new this and that" Poynter first year he had only 2 starters out of 22 coming back and he won the most games in school history. I think you may be right about give them 3 years and there record make be better than 04 but there district will not. There are alot of Evangel Christians out there to help pad that record, but try to at least play a boys team not one with 13 coed players. And that is part of the FACTS.:redboxer:

Guess we'll see buddy! But it takes more than some excellent players to win ballgames, as your buddy SMOKEY stated. Its a team effort. Thats right, 11 players working as one! No they're not a savior after 1 year, or after 3 or so like they've had before......Ask Phillip Haywood how long its took him at Belfry to make that program the powerhouse it became. Some people just dont understand that it takes time to build a program. It starts when the kids are in about the 3rd grade. They need to have a good Little Leauge program to get them started and learn all the fundamentals for the next 3 years. Then when they get to the grade school level they already know the basics of football, and they should then start running the basic plays of the high schools offense, so when they get to high school, it won't be completely new to them!

[throw deep]

Philip Haywood came to Pond Creek in 1984 and took the Pirates to the AAA State Finals in 1985 and 1986!!!!!

[15thRegionFan]

My bad.......that was before my time.....didn't know that, but I'm sure that they haven't been at the top every year

[15thRegionFan]

like they have been as of late