[nky]

Seems to me that most here are racists, or they are just siding with one of the conservative news sources version. Either way, knowing a lot of citizens in KY are racists, and going by some of the talk here, I am getting proven right. There's one thing for sure, if I disliked blacks, I wouldn't skirt around the issue with sidestepping inuendos, I'd say it flat out. You can take that to the bank.

sure would like this explained

[SKINNYPIG]

A man that hides behind a computer, talking shit, afraid to let his identity known, is not a man.

I gotta say TRV, the posts you've made in this thread are a lot of things...Manly ain't one of em.

[SKINNYPIG]

Doesn't a racist have hatred for all races other than his own? I don't know anyone that's a racist, yet millions are labeled every day.

[TheRealVille]

I would assume that you are speaking for yourself. You really should consider moving to Massachusetts or Vermont so you can support your "causes" among others of like mind.

No, I'm going to stay here and try to help move KY forward.

[nky]

No, I'm going to stay here and try to help move KY forward.

by the way Happy National Fried Chicken Day :notbad:

http://www.today.com/food/fried-chicken-...6C10553730

[Hoot Gibson]

by the way Happy National Fried Chicken Day :notbad:

http://www.today.com/food/fried-chicken-...6C10553730

Careful, nky, talking about fried chicken in this thread could get you branded as a racist.

[nky]

^ just feeding the machine. But notice it's not from a conservative website

[nky]

can't wait till August 3rd

[Hoot Gibson]

^ just feeding the machine. But notice it's not from a conservative website

That chicken and waffles dish looks great. One of the things that I miss about Mississippi is the abundance of chicken restaurants. But the chicken served by some of the local kabob houses is as good as any fried chicken that I have ever had. I eat more chicken than any other meat.

[Harry Rex Vonner]

No, I'm going to stay here and try to help move KY forward.

You never address the facts we present. You post , as your sources, obscure radical liberal websites. You finally give up any resistance, us the typical cop out, and call many of us posters "racists". Try to make a meaningful post and tell us what leads you to the conclusion that we are "racists".

[TheRealThing]

sure would like this explained

Oh he's just trying to use some of the words he's seen on here and it is a little hard for him to look polished.

[TheRealThing]

No, I'm going to stay here and try to help move KY forward.

Well, so gar you've got vector convinced. :biggrin:

[MustangSally]

can't wait till August 3rd

Day Jesse Owens won gold in the 100 meters in Berlin?:Cheerlead

[TheRealVille]

Someone said earlier that Treyvon was a dopehead. Does very small trace amounts of THC make one a dopehead? Do trace amounts make one high?

[Harry Rex Vonner]

Someone said earlier that Treyvon was a dopehead. Does very small trace amounts of THC make one a dopehead? Do trace amounts make one high?

I have no idea if Martin was a habitual dope consumer or not. However, I wouldn't bet against it. The evidence, though not available to the jury, indicates that the media portrayal of Martin as a typical young innocent teenager is fabrication. But, that should have been obvious anyway.

Today's testimony further bolsters the defense. the most revealing evidence was from the former chief of police who offered testimony that the whole deal is a political prosecution. Of course, no one with a grain of intelligence should have doubted that fact. From the beginning, the elected officials of Sanford were afraid of the likelihood of looting, mayhem, and destruction if Zimmerman weren't punished.

[vundy33]

I think he's had a very fair trial. His lawyers are as confident as I've ever seen the defense in a murder trial, and the prosecution has had many thing backfire on them...and have honestly looked pretty incompetent at times.

I don't think he'll be found guilty of anything really. Can't remember all of the charges exactly, but definitely don't think he'll be found guilty of the murder charge.

[Harry Rex Vonner]

The two possibilities are second degree murder and manslaughter. The prosecution has not remotely proven either. However, I still expect a guilty verdict for manslaughter. This is obviously not because of the evidence presented but because of the likelihood of the "civil unrest" that will be generated by a not guilty verdict.

This is a political trial. If you will remember, Zimmerman was not charged until the state stepped in with its prosecutor over forty days after the event and railroaded charges. Then, the media, led by NBC, doctored tapes of Zimmerman's statements in order for him to appear to be a racist. And, of course, Zimmerman was "white" until they had to change it to a "white Hispanic". Now, as we near the end, the media is hyping the fact that five of the six jurors are Caucasian.

Yep. It is politics as led by the media in general and NBC, along with MSNBC and HLN, in particular.

Bet on a conviction of some kind or there will be rioting, looting, and mayhem. That is present day America. Justice is suffocated in the politically correct mud.

[Crossbones]

I agree. IMO.. if civil unrest starts and there is rioting, looting and mayhem. Then deal with it swiftly and harshly. Nip it in the bud quickly. He like any other man deserves a fair trail and to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

[Harry Rex Vonner]

I agree. IMO.. if civil unrest starts and there is rioting, looting and mayhem. Then deal with it swiftly and harshly. Nip it in the bud quickly. He like any other man deserves a fair trail and to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

Indeed, you are correct. Unfortunately, if any "unrest" is dealt with "swiftly and harshly", the law enforcement officers who do so will be branded immediately as "racists".

[Harry Rex Vonner]

This gun shot ultra expert, Dr. Vincent Di Maio, has removed any reasonable doubt concerning the apparent fact that Martin was on top of Zimmerman at the time of the shooting. Di Maio is very convincing. Of course, he could be lying. But, isn't such a conclusion ridiculous? Why would he lie? It would be like saying the two police investigators who were told by Mr. Martin that the screams were mot those of his son are also lying.

After a while, it should be a bit disingenuous for anyone to believe that everyone but the Martin family is lying, don't you think?

[TheRealThing]

This gun shot ultra expert, Dr. Vincent Di Maio, has removed any reasonable doubt concerning the apparent fact that Martin was on top of Zimmerman at the time of the shooting. Di Maio is very convincing. Of course, he could be lying. But, isn't such a conclusion ridiculous? Why would he lie? It would be like saying the two police investigators who were told by Mr. Martin that the screams were mot those of his son are also lying.

After a while, it should be a bit disingenuous for anyone to believe that everyone but the Martin family is lying, don't you think?

Agreed.
The Martin family is hurt and mad. Generally speaking and very unfortunately, many black folks grow up believing they are doomed to an existence of being permanently downtrodden by the rich white people. More specifically, rich white republicans. An absurdly erroneous idea that democrats helped to initialize and foster so as to insure the black vote, all without the first pang of guilt.

I believe Mr Martin would have known the sound of his son's voice well enough to say if he thought that was Trayvon screaming for help on the 911 tape. The prosecution would hang their whole case on basically one statement that Zimmerman made. He said they always get by with it and for the most part he is exactly right. His neighborhood was ravaged by burglaries, and that can make for particularly grievous living conditions. And I can tell you for a surety, most of the time the punks do get by with it. Even if the thieves are identified by witnesses or security systems the police rarely ever do anything about break-ins. Though Zimmerman's neighborhood was a hotbed for burglary, anybody who would take a second to think about that would have to agree, no matter where the neighborhood one lives in, burglaries are a real problem. "Every 15 seconds in the United States a burglary occurs. There were over 2.4 billion in the U.S. in 2008. Of those 61.4 percent included forcible entry, 32.4 percent included unlawful entry, and 6.2 percent included attempted forcible entry. Property loss due to burglary totaled $4.3 billion in 2007, with the average loss at $1,991. The rate of recovery is 5 percent. Only 13 percent of burglaries are solved by police. Burglaries make up over 22 percent of all property crimes."

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_5367332_burgla...z2YZE4mUPw

After all the state could muster, all they have are grieving loved ones and that single statement to establish the shooting was an execution rather than self defense. The defense on the other hand has an abundance of exculpatory testimony and other evidence. It would seem to be nearly impossible to convict Zimmerman on the state's case.

[Hoot Gibson]

This case is starting to remind me more and more of the Bernard Goetz case. I hope that Zimmerman's life is not destroyed for defending himself the way that Goetz's was. The race baiters who are clamoring for a conviction have already shown that they are perfectly willing to provide names and addresses of innocent people, just in case somebody else wants to do them harm. They are the ones who should be jailed.

[Granny Bear]

I agree. Even though Goetz was found not guilty of all charges but for the firearms possession, he still had to pay a large settlement to one of the victims. I'm thinking $40 million, but that could be wrong.

[Hoot Gibson]

I agree. Even though Goetz was found not guilty of all charges but for the firearms possession, he still had to pay a large settlement to one of the victims. I'm thinking $40 million, but that could be wrong.

You are almost on the money - it was $43 million. If I am not mistaken, he filed for bankruptcy and when the judge refused to wipe out the debt, he gave up his career. I don't know if he ever paid a dime or not to the thug.

[Harry Rex Vonner]

Anyone who believes that the Martin family isn't looking for a big payday is naive. It is highly significant that they have their own lawyers. Those lawyers aren't there to comfort the family during the criminal trial. They are gathering their dirt for the wrongful death bonanza. They have already struck a hoard of greenbacks from the homeowners association.

If there were any real justice, the Martins would be held liable for the destruction that will surely take place if justice is really served and Zimmerman is not convicted.

[TheRealThing]

Anyone who believes that the Martin family isn't looking for a big payday is naive. It is highly significant that they have their own lawyers. Those lawyers aren't there to comfort the family during the criminal trial. They are gathering their dirt for the wrongful death bonanza. They have already struck a hoard of greenbacks from the homeowners association.

If there were any real justice, the Martins would be held liable for the destruction that will surely take place if justice is really served and Zimmerman is not convicted.

All true. Something that bothers me about this case is the fact that all of the evidence gathered by the investigators and their subsequent testimony all fall on Zimmerman's side of the argument, and yet almost nobody other than Fox is being truthful about that. How many times does the state bring a case to trial that is so weak even the police department cannot offer any support?
And why is it that no officer of the court thinks it of enough significance to mention that a very highly thought of Sheriff department decided this was obviously a case of self defense?

All of the people who are inexplicably hoping to see Zimmerman found guilty, can very conveniently dispense with the findings of the initial investigation, not to mention the intense scrutiny of that finding and case file by legions of lawyers from the left. If there were any discrepancies they would be screaming about it for sure. They want Zimmerman to swing so badly they don't care in the least that the evidence is so predominately in Zimmerman's favor it would be hard to find a prosecution case to even compare it to.

If this kind of attitude with regard to justice is a reflection of the whole system it's no wonder they don't have any problem with legislation and law that directly challenges God's moral authority. Who will pay the millions that will certainly be awarded should Zimmerman walk?

[TheRealVille]

The forensic guy today made a pretty compelling case for the defence.

[TheRealVille]

^ But, I think Treyvon should be afforded the same self defense entitlement as George. Manslaughter wouldn't wouldn't be a bad verdict.

[TheRealVille]

I still don't find it odd that you guys don't afford Treyvon the same justice as George.

[Hoot Gibson]

There is no evidence that Martin acted in self defense. None. Martin is not being prosecuted but the man who is being tried should never had been charged. The evidence supporting Zimmerman's case for self defense was available to the police and prosecutor from day one and their initial decision not to prosecute Zimmerman was the correct one. The racists who wanted Zimmerman persecuted have had there day in court and Zimmerman will pay for it the rest of his life.