[JumperPride1]

I don't need any of you guys to agree with me. I just don't see how you can set and tell me that this isn't middlesboro's year. You have a big surprise ahead of you all of you.

In two years Middlesboro will be the team to beat in the district (that is to say when the group of 22 incoming juniors that Middlesboro has are seniors). The point that you're neglecting Jacket is that Somerset has a class of 20 seniors this coming year that are mostly 3 year starters. They are, essentially, what the Middlesboro group will be next year; that is to say they are a very talented and very experienced group. I do not disagree with you that Middlesboro will be good this year, they have a very good chance to finish 2nd in the district but to say that "this is Middlesboro's year" is not taking the bigger picture into account. The Somerset group that you guys played last year was a JUNIOR loaded team with some good senior talent (slaughter, tyson williams, tyler megargel). Somerset returns 8/9 guys on both sides, and the guys that replace the graduated seniors all saw significant time last year on their way to a 4th consecutive regional title.... So once again please explain to me how "this is Middlesboro's year."? Next year I may have to agree with you, small school football is cyclical and Somerset has had an outstanding run of talent over the better part of the last decade but next year will be a rebuilding year as the Jumpers will be young in a lot of positions, as for the 2013 football season... They are going to be very good.

[Norm Peterson]

I don't need any of you guys to agree with me. I just don't see how you can set and tell me that this isn't middlesboro's year. You have a big surprise ahead of you all of you.

What do you want us to say? "You know, there's just no way possible that Somerset can beat Middlesboro. Nevermind that the Jumpers are 10-0 vs the rest of the district the past 2 years, return a lot of experienced starters and play the Jackets at home. No, that doesn't matter. Middlesboro returns too many starters. We should just go ahead and cancel the district games, award the championship to Middlesboro and skip ahead to the playoffs....In April." There, is that what you want?



Middlesboro is going to have a fine team, but you don't get credit for playing close in football. Save the talk, bring your team over and prove it on the field. Until then Somerset is still district champs. You'll get your shot but I don't think you'll see anyone in Purple and Gold concede anything just because you're bringing back a bunch of starters from a 4-7 team.

[Briar jumper bd]

Jacket, Middlesboro is going to be very good and it's going to be a heck of a game. I think both set of fans are going to be on the edge of their seats as I believe this will be a highscoring game! That RB you guys had last year is the best runningback we faced in my opinion. Great speed and field vision! As far as who's better, well... thats going to be settled when we play.

[M'boroYellowJacket]

Good luck to both teams next season! Go Jackets!

[strawberryshakeman]

There's nothing arrogant about my comments at all. You guys in the eastern part of the state are caught up in your own little bubble and can't face the fact that besides St X and Trinity, the only part of the state that has the best (consistent) football is Northen Ky. Somerset would be lucky to finish .500 up here playing Ryle, Cooper, Campbell County, Simon Kenton, Highlands, Dixie and Cov Cath, not to mention the smaller schools like New Cath and Beechwood, or even venturing into Ohio and playing the Cincy teams. Maybe you fellers need a yank here to keep ya"ll straight cause I aint never felt so much hot air in my life when its been so cool outside.

[Briar jumper bd]

There's nothing arrogant about my comments at all. You guys in the eastern part of the state are caught up in your own little bubble and can't face the fact that besides St X and Trinity, the only part of the state that has the best (consistent) football is Northen Ky. Somerset would be lucky to finish .500 up here playing Ryle, Cooper, Campbell County, Simon Kenton, Highlands, Dixie and Cov Cath, not to mention the smaller schools like New Cath and Beechwood, or even venturing into Ohio and playing the Cincy teams. Maybe you fellers need a yank here to keep ya"ll straight cause I aint never felt so much hot air in my life when its been so cool outside.

Why don't you bring your Northern Ky A$$ to Somerset so we can further this conversation in person???? Just saying!!!

[JumperPride1]

There's nothing arrogant about my comments at all. You guys in the eastern part of the state are caught up in your own little bubble and can't face the fact that besides St X and Trinity, the only part of the state that has the best (consistent) football is Northen Ky. Somerset would be lucky to finish .500 up here playing Ryle, Cooper, Campbell County, Simon Kenton, Highlands, Dixie and Cov Cath, not to mention the smaller schools like New Cath and Beechwood, or even venturing into Ohio and playing the Cincy teams. Maybe you fellers need a yank here to keep ya"ll straight cause I aint never felt so much hot air in my life when its been so cool outside.

I remember last years semi-state game being very competitive. I don't think anyone in this Somerset post said that the Jumpers could beat the powers of NKY, but since we're living in glass houses lets examine your schedule from last year:
Aug 17, 12 Dixie Heights away 37 - 22 (W) Click Skyline Chili Crosstown Showdown
Aug 25, 12 Archbishop McNicholas, OH away 24 - 27 (L) Click
Aug 31, 12 Campbell County away 16 - 42 (L) Click
Sep 15, 12 Simon Kenton home 20 - 28 (L) Click
Sep 21, 12 Bishop Brossart away 58 - 0 (W) Click
Sep 28, 12 Holmes away 7 - 12 (L) Click
Oct 6, 12 Lloyd Memorial home 63 - 22 (W) Click
Oct 12, 12 Newport away 49 - 0 (W) Click
Oct 18, 12 Holy Cross (Covington) away 49 - 10 (W) Click
Oct 26, 12 Beechwood home 34 - 14 (W) Click
Nov 2, 12 Gallatin County at Newport 49 - 13 (W) Click Class 2A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl
Nov 10, 12 Holy Cross (Covington) at Newport 52 - 0 (W) Click Class 2A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl
Nov 16, 12 Walton-Verona home 49 - 14 (W) Click Class 2A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl
Nov 23, 12 Somerset away 27 - 18 (W) Click Class 2A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl
Dec 1, 12 Caldwell County at Feix Field, Houchens Stadium, WKU 30 - 26 (W) Click C

Looks like you may need to drop out of the NKY competition as well. A win against 1a Beechwood, and a down Dixie heights program... Outside of that you played the turds of NKY. Grats man. Obviously the two wins that matter the most are the one against us (once again a competitive ball game that could have gone either way) and the state game. Your time is coming... We have GEOGRAPHICAL RESTRICTIONS and your program does not. And let me again reiterate that out of the NKY power programs that you mentioned in your original post you played... well... none. You will likely have the chance to play us again, hopefully we can finally shut up the arrogance that is NKY football, but to say that we don't (didn't) play a tough schedule is absolutely ridiculous. Your schedule last year was far worse than ours.

[strawberryshakeman]

I'm a fan of NKY football and I noticed your comments as lopsided and boasting. The way you guys talk it seems as though your teams should be listed in USA TODAY top 25< but its my guess they never will. You further showed your arrogance assuming I supported a particular team by posting a schedule. You couldn't be more wrong, but that wouldn't be the first time would it? By the way Hoss, you can refer to the teams in NKY as "turds" all you want, but answer this question. How did it feel to get beat by a turd last year?

[JumperPride1]

I'm a fan of NKY football and I noticed your comments as lopsided and boasting. The way you guys talk it seems as though your teams should be listed in USA TODAY top 25< but its my guess they never will. You further showed your arrogance assuming I supported a particular team by posting a schedule. You couldn't be more wrong, but that wouldn't be the first time would it? By the way Hoss, you can refer to the teams in NKY as "turds" all you want, but answer this question. How did it feel to get beat by a turd last year?

Dixie heights, (most years) cov hc (most years) Lloyd memorial, Walton Verona.... Do I need to continue? Point is originally you said Somerset couldn't compete with NKY talent, however outside of Campbell co. The Breds don't play the talented NKY teams. Hell Simon Kenton is ok but everyone they played outside of district was in 2a. Point is Somerset could compete with the schedule the Breds had last year. You came to this thread, you were proven wrong, now run along and hit the recruiting trail and go to mass. And who said the jumpers were too 25 in the nation? We support our program, but we're not stupid. Fact of the matter is yes they are very talented. Google will Lange and Cam Cheveraunt Somerset track... Both top three in the state in the 100m.... The talent is there, and they will be a tough out for anyone next season.

[blu001]

Ray Correll Bowl
Pike County Bowl
Glasgow
Hazard
Letcher county central
Don Marshall Bowl
Danville
Lexington Christian
Middlesbrough
Bourbon County

is this schedule is updated?

[strawberryshakeman]

Again JP1, you keep referring to my comments as though I'm a Breds supporter. You obviously didn't read my last comments thorough enough to figure out I am a NKY football fan. You obviously show your ignorance when you start taking shots at someones religion or talking about recruiting when you can't walk the walk. I'll ask the question again, "How did it feel to get beat by a "turd"? Answer the question instead of trying to get cheap, then you might be able to show some credibility.

[NKYfootballfan91]

I remember last years semi-state game being very competitive. I don't think anyone in this Somerset post said that the Jumpers could beat the powers of NKY, but since we're living in glass houses lets examine your schedule from last year:
Aug 17, 12 Dixie Heights away 37 - 22 (W) Click Skyline Chili Crosstown Showdown
Aug 25, 12 Archbishop McNicholas, OH away 24 - 27 (L) Click
Aug 31, 12 Campbell County away 16 - 42 (L) Click
Sep 15, 12 Simon Kenton home 20 - 28 (L) Click
Sep 21, 12 Bishop Brossart away 58 - 0 (W) Click
Sep 28, 12 Holmes away 7 - 12 (L) Click
Oct 6, 12 Lloyd Memorial home 63 - 22 (W) Click
Oct 12, 12 Newport away 49 - 0 (W) Click
Oct 18, 12 Holy Cross (Covington) away 49 - 10 (W) Click
Oct 26, 12 Beechwood home 34 - 14 (W) Click
Nov 2, 12 Gallatin County at Newport 49 - 13 (W) Click Class 2A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl
Nov 10, 12 Holy Cross (Covington) at Newport 52 - 0 (W) Click Class 2A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl
Nov 16, 12 Walton-Verona home 49 - 14 (W) Click Class 2A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl
Nov 23, 12 Somerset away 27 - 18 (W) Click Class 2A Russell Athletic/KHSAA Commonwealth Gridiron Bowl
Dec 1, 12 Caldwell County at Feix Field, Houchens Stadium, WKU 30 - 26 (W) Click C

Looks like you may need to drop out of the NKY competition as well. A win against 1a Beechwood, and a down Dixie heights program... Outside of that you played the turds of NKY. Grats man. Obviously the two wins that matter the most are the one against us (once again a competitive ball game that could have gone either way) and the state game. Your time is coming... We have GEOGRAPHICAL RESTRICTIONS and your program does not. And let me again reiterate that out of the NKY power programs that you mentioned in your original post you played... well... none. You will likely have the chance to play us again, hopefully we can finally shut up the arrogance that is NKY football, but to say that we don't (didn't) play a tough schedule is absolutely ridiculous. Your schedule last year was far worse than ours.

Sorry man, but NCC is 10-0 with somersets schedule, while the jumpers r 4-6 with NCC's. lets not forget, the last three 2A state champs are from NKY. NCC plays Ryle also and also played cooper in 12. Cooper was in the 5A state game. Also, either ur just plain stupid, or just misinformed, there are district lines for the catholic schools. Sure, any kid can come to NCC, but NCC can't enter certain middle schools due to district lines. Not to mention, there r quite a few catholic high schools in theses three counties that make up NKY. While NCC is basically getting Campbell county kids, cov Cath is pulling from all three. Also, NCC is competing with 2 other catholic high schools that play football in Campbell county. Oh yeah, highlands is less than 5 miles away from ncc. And did I mention, the last 3 2A state champs are NCC x 2 and holy cross. Wasn't somerset blown out by holy cross in 11, a team ncc beat 34-17 and lost 24-21 to?

I've said, somerset had a very good team. The left O tackle (75 i think) was as good as NCC had seen. The problem was or is, I think the team is poorly coached. Some of those kids from the 12 team were punks and were very disrespectful. Not to mention one of the coaches who stood under the goal post after the game and refused to shake the NCC coaches hands after the game.

I'll say it again, if any of the NCC kids would have made the comments that the somerset kids made, coach eviston would have sent them to the locker room. It's one thing to run ur mouth to other players, but when u direct them at coaches in pre-game......that's when that game was lost.

[JumperPride1]

I'll just reply to both of you in one post. My problem with NKY football in general is this: It is not enough to be good, and win multiple state titles, you have to also talk about the superiority of NKY and how bad south central KY teams are etc. The coaching staff at Somerset has won 48 games in 4 years with 4 straight regional titles and one state runner up... Perfect? No, but coaching is not the issue. Somerset was hurt with a few plays in the passing game and not getting enough stops on 3rd down. The jumpers held one of the best RB's in 2a to 99 yards on the night, considering he was averaging over 200 I'll take that. Regardless, the past is the past. I didn't call New Cath "Turds" I said they play the worst of the worst in Northern Kentucky (they don't play the Highlands, Ryles ect.). I never said we were defeated by a "turd." Somerset was beaten by a New Cath team who was less talented but made more plays. Regardless, the likelihood of the two meeting again in the same scenario is fairly high. Thanks once again to all the Northern Kentucky folks for bringing us hill jacks back down to earth. Thanks also for talking about "punk" 18 year olds, class act, they are kids.

[Buffalo Bildos]

Sorry man, but NCC is 10-0 with somersets schedule, while the jumpers r 4-6 with NCC's. lets not forget, the last three 2A state champs are from NKY. NCC plays Ryle also and also played cooper in 12. Cooper was in the 5A state game. Also, either ur just plain stupid, or just misinformed, there are district lines for the catholic schools. Sure, any kid can come to NCC, but NCC can't enter certain middle schools due to district lines. Not to mention, there r quite a few catholic high schools in theses three counties that make up NKY. While NCC is basically getting Campbell county kids, cov Cath is pulling from all three. Also, NCC is competing with 2 other catholic high schools that play football in Campbell county. Oh yeah, highlands is less than 5 miles away from ncc. And did I mention, the last 3 2A state champs are NCC x 2 and holy cross. Wasn't somerset blown out by holy cross in 11, a team ncc beat 34-17 and lost 24-21 to?

I've said, somerset had a very good team. The left O tackle (75 i think) was as good as NCC had seen. The problem was or is, I think the team is poorly coached. Some of those kids from the 12 team were punks and were very disrespectful. Not to mention one of the coaches who stood under the goal post after the game and refused to shake the NCC coaches hands after the game.

I'll say it again, if any of the NCC kids would have made the comments that the somerset kids made, coach eviston would have sent them to the locker room. It's one thing to run ur mouth to other players, but when u direct them at coaches in pre-game......that's when that game was lost.

Im glad you're not talking about Cov. HC coach from two years ago. This argument about the players talking trash to the coach would have ended quickly if you had seen how disrespectful he was to the players of Somerset. If its true that Somerset players were disrespectful to the NKY coach last year I'm sorry but its not like it came out of no where. Somerset feels like they have no respect from anyone up north and there is a track record to prove it.

[NKYfootballfan91]

I'll just reply to both of you in one post. My problem with NKY football in general is this: It is not enough to be good, and win multiple state titles, you have to also talk about the superiority of NKY and how bad south central KY teams are etc. The coaching staff at Somerset has won 48 games in 4 years with 4 straight regional titles and one state runner up... Perfect? No, but coaching is not the issue. Somerset was hurt with a few plays in the passing game and not getting enough stops on 3rd down. The jumpers held one of the best RB's in 2a to 99 yards on the night, considering he was averaging over 200 I'll take that. Regardless, the past is the past. I didn't call New Cath "Turds" I said they play the worst of the worst in Northern Kentucky (they don't play the Highlands, Ryles ect.). I never said we were defeated by a "turd." Somerset was beaten by a New Cath team who was less talented but made more plays. Regardless, the likelihood of the two meeting again in the same scenario is fairly high. Thanks once again to all the Northern Kentucky folks for bringing us hill jacks back down to earth. Thanks also for talking about "punk" 18 year olds, class act, they are kids.

I don't know how it works down there, but if your 18, your an adult, not a kid. That's the problem with most people, ur making excuses for them. I don't understand what u mean, "not good enough to win multiple state titles". When you dont challenge the team, how can they handle adversity, hence the dumb personal foul late in the game. sure, ncc was 6-4 going into the playoffs, but they were tested. they lost to 2 6A teams, a 4A team and an ohio team that made the playoffs. with the exception of cchs, all games were 7 point or less losses. What does that say about the rest of the state, if you can't beat those teams, but yet, u feel they r not good enough to win? I know u can't do the what ifs, but NCC was better than that holy cross team in 11, NCC would have put 70 on somerset that year and probably the same in state final. U talk about holding Hayes to 99 yards lol, the kid was hurt and still put up 99.

[NKYfootballfan91]

Im glad you're not talking about Cov. HC coach from two years ago. This argument about the players talking trash to the coach would have ended quickly if you had seen how disrespectful he was to the players of Somerset. If its true that Somerset players were disrespectful to the NKY coach last year I'm sorry but its not like it came out of no where. Somerset feels like they have no respect from anyone up north and there is a track record to prove it.

I'm sorry for that, trust me, he has the same reputation here as well. Very unacceptable.

[JumperPride1]

So the question remains, why are you on here justifying and defending yourself in a thread in regard to a program that you beat en route to a state title? Up until the point that the NKY fanbases joined this conversation it was not hostile. I don't think anyone is arguing the success of New Cath... Multiple state titles, good at every position, well coached etc. What is disconerning is the fact that you have to run another program into the ground to prove some type of validity. Why is that? As mentioned the Jumpers will be very good again, and offensively have the fire power to compete with NKY teams. We'll see how the season plays out I suppose.

[JumperPride1]

I'm sorry for that, trust me, he has the same reputation here as well. Very unacceptable.

And Buffalo is right about that... Coach Bruce K. punted a ball into the stands that rolled into Holy Crosses warm stretching lines during pre-game. Class A jerk move. The Breds were nothing but class on the field, but do have a perceived lack of respect for teams outside of NKY...

[NKYfootballfan91]

It seems we both want the same thing, respect for our programs and areas. I've said this many time, somerset was a very good team. Just a few too many bad apples. You guys were def the best team ncc played in the 2A playoffs. Wasn't the best team they played during the year. I guess the fact that most somerset fans said NCC vs somerset was the real state champ game. Then after NCC wins, somerset fans weren't giving NCC a chance to win. It leaves a bad taste in ur mouth. Sounded so much like sour grapes to me.

[RoShamBo]

^To be fair, a lot of people saying the Somerset v. NCC game was the real state championship were not Somerset or NCC fans, and most Somerset fans fully expected NCC to win after you beat us. Some, myself included, even hoped for NCC to win it all after beating us.

[strawberryshakeman]

With all due respect I don't understand your statement about the winner of the Somerset/ NewCath game would be the eventual state champion. I went to that game and anyone who saw Caldwell Co. play knows they were for real and have an excellent chance of being the eventual champ this year. They were a big, strong, fast team that NC was fortunate enough to have the ball last and make a play. Yea, NC beat a good Somerset team but I don't know if Somerset would've beat Caldwell Co. Caldwell Co. mirrors NewCath in every respect of the game by playing disciplined football. I hear people make the reference you made because I think it makes us feel good when we loose.

[playtowin]

Strawberry shake man it is TIME. FOR. YOU. TO. GO.

[RoShamBo]

With all due respect I don't understand your statement about the winner of the Somerset/ NewCath game would be the eventual state champion.

Probably just because you haven't been here that long. It was said plenty of times prior to the game, even before either team had made it to that point.

[strawberryshakeman]

PTW I'm not going anywhere! Just speaking my mind, sorry if you don't agree.

[Cellking]

Fact: NCC will be Good. Fact: Somerset will be good. Both should make it to the Semi-State. If they do it will be a good Game.

[RisingJackets]

They live in a more wealthier area there for they are better at everything. At least that's what they think

[RoShamBo]

^Yeah that's it. It has nothing to do with our track record or the talent or coaching. We are entitled to success.

[The Cross Movement]

Somerset has another tough schedule but trust me they are well coached and have a very good team. I am certain they will be in the hunt for the state title again.

[Cellking]

Watched Spring Practice a couple days ago. Somerset looks quick and fast. Great Skilled people. Line will get better under Coaching Staff. Kid who transferred from Lincoln will help. Looking fwd to season.

[Cat Daddy]

First of all, Somerset is a respectable program not only in East Kentucky, but throughout the state. Personally, I don't think we live in a bubble here in East Ky, we just really don't care about N. Kentucky football. I can't say the same about you "Yanks", because it seems to me you guys are constantly showing up in our forums, trying to validate how much more superior N.Ky football is to E. Ky football. I have no interest in N. Ky football, so therefore, you will never see my name posting in any forums unless we are competing against a school in that area. So a "word to the wise", If you don't like our teams, or our geographical region, stay out of our forums. Good Luck Briar Jumpers in 2013!!!!!