[Bob Seger]

Eagles win their season opener against a very talented North Laurel squad at Whittaker Bank Park.

Blanton-W (4), Ward (1) Robbins (2).

Lots of good arms for the Jaguars. The first 4 Laurel pitchers threw in the mid to upper 80's, and they have a great player in centerfielder/pitcher Marcus Carson, whom was said to be a UK signee.

[Black Bear Cuz]

Eagles win their season opener against a very talented North Laurel squad at Whittaker Bank Park.

Blanton-W (4), Ward (1) Robbins (2).

Lots of good arms for the Jaguars. The first 4 Laurel pitchers threw in the mid to upper 80's, and they have a great player in centerfielder/pitcher Marcus Carson, whom was said to be a UK signee.

Forgive me for being straight forward sir, but NL does not have four kids throwing in the mid to upper 80's... maybe mid to upper 70's and a couple of them occasionally in the low 80's, but NO way 4 kids in the mid to upper 80's!!! Marcus Carson, however is a great player and going to play baseball at UK

[MHS Parent4Life]

Forgive me for being straight forward sir, but NL does not have four kids throwing in the mid to upper 80's... maybe mid to upper 70's and a couple of them occasionally in the low 80's, but NO way 4 kids in the mid to upper 80's!!! Marcus Carson, however is a great player and going to play baseball at UK

I didn't want to be the first to say it but I agree %100.


Carson is probably the toughest out in the 13th region I would say.

[Van Hagar]

Well actually I was at the game, and the Legends park has the scoreboard that shows pitch speed on it. Zach Hurley, a sophomore, was consistently at 85-86 and topped out at 89, the fastest of the night. Logan Mallory, another sophomore who started, was also consistently at 85-86. And Carson was at 83-84. The fourth pitcher was a young kid throwing only hitting low 70's, which makes me think the board was correct. They do have one more kid Austin Thompson, a junior who closed against Bell Co. Wednesday night, who is definitely a mid-80's guy as well.
Now, just because they've got velocity it doesn't mean they all know how to pitch. Carson and Thompson are much more experienced, the other two need time on the mound. This North team is excelllent in the outfield and behind the plate, but they have an all-new infield that really struggled agaisnt a good Johnson Central team. There will be nights when they can compete with anyone, and nights when they lose to teams that are average at best.

[Bob Seger]

Forgive me for being straight forward sir, but NL does not have four kids throwing in the mid to upper 80's... maybe mid to upper 70's and a couple of them occasionally in the low 80's, but NO way 4 kids in the mid to upper 80's!!! Marcus Carson, however is a great player and going to play baseball at UK

Then forgive me for telling you in pretty blunt terms that you dont have a clue as to what you are talking about.I would rather be nice about it, but ah what the heck. Everyone that was in attendence at last nights game can attest to what I just posted. Not only did the stadium radar gun backup what I just said , but my gun and others did as well. I guess you question the radar gun at Whittaker Park? Trust me I am not the type who over exagerates and over states velocites. Been in this for a long time, and have put 2 through "major" college baseball programs as pitchers. The only pitcher they threw last night for Laurel that did not hit the mid to upper 80 mark was the last one they threw and he was hitting around 70. All I can say is that when you face some of these guys this season just be prepared to have it crammed down your throats the "hard" way.....lol

[Bob Seger]

I didn't want to be the first to say it but I agree %100.


Carson is probably the toughest out in the 13th region I would say.

Well I have no problem in being first in telling you that you are bewildered as well.


I think that about everyone that knows me and who I am, knows that I am dead on in what I post about pitching.

[IRISH4]

I can attest to everything that Seger has posted. I was in attendence last night and NL did have 4 pitchers that hit 80+ last night. I believe the fastest pitch of the night was 86 by #24 for the Jags. Very impressed with the staff they had, just need to throw more strikes...which will come. I spoke to a scout at the game who also had a radar gun on the pitchers and he confirmed what was shown on their scoreboard.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

It will help the eagles down the road to see pitching like that this early in the year.

[Bob Seger]

I can attest to everything that Seger has posted. I was in attendence last night and NL did have 4 pitchers that hit 80+ last night. I believe the fastest pitch of the night was 86 by #24 for the Jags. Very impressed with the staff they had, just need to throw more strikes...which will come. I spoke to a scout at the game who also had a radar gun on the pitchers and he confirmed what was shown on their scoreboard.

Hurley actually hit 89 one time and hit 87 mutiple times.

[Black Bear Cuz]

Then forgive me for telling you in pretty blunt terms that you dont have a clue as to what you are talking about.I would rather be nice about it, but ah what the heck. Everyone that was in attendence at last nights game can attest to what I just posted. Not only did the stadium radar gun backup what I just said , but my gun and others did as well. I guess you question the radar gun at Whittaker Park? Trust me I am not the type who over exagerates and over states velocites. Been in this for a long time, and have put 2 through "major" college baseball programs as pitchers. The only pitcher they threw last night for Laurel that did not hit the mid to upper 80 mark was the last one they threw and he was hitting around 70. All I can say is that when you face some of these guys this season just be prepared to have it crammed down your throats the "hard" way.....lol

According to IRISH4 the hardest pitch all night was 86 by one pitcher and that is NOT upper 80's and Certainly NOT upper 80's by all 4 pitchers??? 80+ is also not mid 80's pal, why dont you get your story a little more accurarate before you go off exagerating?? So was it 3 or 4 kids hitting occasionally low 80's with one kid popping 86 once or what??? Because it clearly doesnt sound like 4 kids hitting in the mid to UPPER 80's???

[JCHS Alumni Eagle]

On average 3 of first 4 pitchers were around 83-84. The Hurley kid threw much harder, 85-86ish. They all topped out in the mid 80's, Hurley upper 80's. Saw it with my own two eyes. All 4 pitchers were in the 80 on nearly all pitches other then off speed pitches. I agree with Segers account. ALSO everyone needs to remember, it was 40 stinking degrees outside, and it was March 14! Had it been 70 outside then all times would have improved! Mid 80'sfor thier first 4, I think that is an accurate account!

[MHS Parent4Life]

Well I have no problem in being first in telling you that you are bewildered as well.

I think that about everyone that knows me and who I am, knows that I am dead on in what I post about pitching.

You're not the only one that has been around the block. Coincidentally, everyone that knows me and who I am, knows that I am dead on as well.

Here is what I know, Carson may very well throw mid 80's and even touch 87 from time to time. As for the other 3 that throw mid 80's, they must have improved historically in the off season because when Middlesboro was drubbing North Laurel in the regional semi-finals last year, they sure as hell weren't on the mound. Whats more, they weren't in the field either.

So, if you're expecting me to believe that there are at least 3 guys from last years team that have improved their velocities by 5+ mph, then excuse me if I'm skeptical.

Low 80's? Perhaps. Even realistic.

[Black Bear Cuz]

On average 3 of first 4 pitchers were around 83-84. The Hurley kid threw much harder, 85-86ish. They all topped out in the mid 80's, Hurley upper 80's. Saw it with my own two eyes. All 4 pitchers were in the 80 on nearly all pitches other then off speed pitches. I agree with Segers account. ALSO everyone needs to remember, it was 40 stinking degrees outside, and it was March 14! Had it been 70 outside then all times would have improved! Mid 80'sfor thier first 4, I think that is an accurate account!

Who is Hurley by the way? Does he pitch for JC?

[IRISH4]

According to IRISH4 the hardest pitch all night was 86 by one pitcher and that is NOT upper 80's and Certainly NOT upper 80's by all 4 pitchers??? 80+ is also not mid 80's pal, why dont you get your story a little more accurarate before you go off exagerating?? So was it 3 or 4 kids hitting occasionally low 80's with one kid popping 86 once or what??? Because it clearly doesnt sound like 4 kids hitting in the mid to UPPER 80's???

Please don't quote me and take me for the gospel, I did venture to the team shop during the 6th inning and missed a few of the JC at-bats and a few pitches I didn't look up at the board. However, it would not surprise me if they did hit 87 a few times and touch 89....they were VERY impressive for their second game of the season. With the staff that NL had on the mound, and with the season to gain experience, I would not be surprised to see NL back in Lexington come June. I hope this clears up any misinformation I might have said.

[JCHS Alumni Eagle]

Who is Hurley by the way? Does he pitch for JC?

He is the kid that threw the ball so dang hard for NL.

[Bob Seger]

Who is Hurley by the way? Does he pitch for JC?

See there you dont even know who the kid is but your an expert on not only the NL kids on what they can or cannot do, but also a game in which you didn't even attend. I think that pretty much tells the story here.

[Bob Seger]

You're not the only one that has been around the block. Coincidentally, everyone that knows me and who I am, knows that I am dead on as well.

Here is what I know, Carson may very well throw mid 80's and even touch 87 from time to time. As for the other 3 that throw mid 80's, they must have improved historically in the off season because when Middlesboro was drubbing North Laurel in the regional semi-finals last year, they sure as hell weren't on the mound. Whats more, they weren't in the field either.

So, if you're expecting me to believe that there are at least 3 guys from last years team that have improved their velocities by 5+ mph, then excuse me if I'm skeptical.

Low 80's? Perhaps. Even realistic.

First off, I've read enough of your posts to not believe you are really considered much of an authority. You kinda have a ding-a-ling stigma attached from what I have read on here from other's responses.

OK, it's like this Carson threw the lightest of all 4 of them He is actually the only one that you would consider borderline lower 80's. He topped out at 84, and hit that several times. I want to say the starters name was Mallory. Not sure about that but I think he wore #21 and he was hitting 85-86 consistantly. I dont not remember the other's nameor his number though.


Really, I dont give a rats's patooty on what you think or believe, because you are going to find out soon enough. Dont care who was on the team last year either. Actually we played and beat North Laurel last year as well, and I do remember NL bringing in a hard throwing freshman in the final 2 innings of the game in which was played at West Jessamine. He hit 84 in that game. I am assuming that was probably Hurley. This kid threw some serious heat for a freshman, and I'm hear to tell you he is throwing some serious heat right now, even if he were a senior. Again he hit 87 probably 5 times and hit 89 once.


And no it was not low 80's. Here is my breakdown in defining what is low, mid, and high.

Low-80-83
Mid 84-86
high 87-89

[Bob Seger]

Well actually I was at the game, and the Legends park has the scoreboard that shows pitch speed on it. Zach Hurley, a sophomore, was consistently at 85-86 and topped out at 89, the fastest of the night. Logan Mallory, another sophomore who started, was also consistently at 85-86. And Carson was at 83-84. The fourth pitcher was a young kid throwing only hitting low 70's, which makes me think the board was correct. They do have one more kid Austin Thompson, a junior who closed against Bell Co. Wednesday night, who is definitely a mid-80's guy as well.
Now, just because they've got velocity it doesn't mean they all know how to pitch. Carson and Thompson are much more experienced, the other two need time on the mound. This North team is excelllent in the outfield and behind the plate, but they have an all-new infield that really struggled agaisnt a good Johnson Central team. There will be nights when they can compete with anyone, and nights when they lose to teams that are average at best.

Thank you Van Hagar. That is exactly what I said. I think what you have here are a Harlan Co. fan and a Middlesboro fan who dont know as much as they think they do, and are scared to death it's true.

And you are also correct in velocity not being the only factor. They were throwing hard, but were struggling to find command. After all, it was just March 14 and it was 40 degrees out there. I expect by season's end they will be way more consistant with their command, (and I'm sorry to tell this to our 2 delusional inhouse experts) but they will probably be throwing even harder than what they did last night.....lol

[Black Bear Cuz]

All those arms and give up 8 runs to JC? Is JC supposed to be a really good HS team?

[BlackcatAlum]

I was in attendance as well and the stadium radar said 87 a few times for one pitcher for NL.

Errors killed NL in this one, as I believe they had 5 or 6. JC didn't hit the ball very well, but that was mostly due to some good pitching by NL.

Congrats Eagles

[Bob Seger]

I was in attendance as well and the stadium radar said 87 a few times for one pitcher for NL.

Errors killed NL in this one, as I believe they had 5 or 6. JC didn't hit the ball very well, but that was mostly due to some good pitching by NL.

Congrats Eagles

Perhaps part of it, but them not being able to get it over the plate a lot of the time is just as much the reason as anything. Hard to hit something that at times is not even close to being in the strike zone.

[THOMCAT]

[quote=Black Bear Cuz]All those arms and give up 8 runs to JC? Is JC supposed to be a really good HS team?[/QUOTE]

YES

[OffTheHook]

^NO....J/K.....I am on Seger's side in this one though.

[Bob Seger]

^NO....J/K.....I am on Seger's side in this one though.

Hey Hook, aint it funny how you cant get on here and compliment your opponent for having a good team with a lot talent, without getting blasted by a couple nimrods that were proven to be wrong by about 10 other people. Heaven help and protect the 13th region from these ding-a-lings.

[Black Bear Cuz]

Hey Hook, aint it funny how you cant get on here and compliment your opponent for having a good team with a lot talent, without getting blasted by a couple nimrods that were proven to be wrong by about 10 other people. Heaven help and protect the 13th region from these ding-a-lings.

i believe that we did determine that NL did not have 4 kids throwing in the mid to upper 80's after all Mr Baseball guru!! They had one kid that threw in the mid to upper 80's (Hurley) and some others that were throwing in the low 80's....... So I was right, you were obviously exaggerating with your initial comment!!! Even though you are full of IT and full of yourself Mr Seger, 3 arms in the low 80's and one in the mid to upper 80's is 4 pretty good arms for any high school team!

[Bob Seger]

i believe that we did determine that NL did not have 4 kids throwing in the mid to upper 80's after all Mr Baseball guru!! They had one kid that threw in the mid to upper 80's (Hurley) and some others that were throwing in the low 80's....... So I was right, you were obviously exaggerating with your initial comment!!! Even though you are full of IT and full of yourself Mr Seger, 3 arms in the low 80's and one in the mid to upper 80's is 4 pretty good arms for any high school team!

We determined EXACTLY what I said, and countless others have backed up EXACTLY what I said. They were hitting the mid 80's and one was touching the upper 80's. Why is that so hard for you to figure out? Uh, by the way there genius, 85-86 is mid. The definition of "mid" being approximately halfway between two specified figures. In this case that would be halfway between 80 and 90...DUH!!! Were you absent for those classes when they teach basic simple math?

What has been determined however is that "YOU" stated that they had 4 guys that threw mid to upper 70's and they MIGHT have a couple that could touch the low 80's. Is that not what you said? huh?

You dont need to be a GURU to be able open up your eyes and see big 'ole numbers flashing up on a 100 foot screen there buddy boy, (although I did have a radar gun in my hand too). But I do appreciate your recognition of that......And there is no reason to get all huffy with me "pal" , you're the one that has made themselves look stupid here....lol


As mentioned previously, you dont even know who plays for whom, yet you are the consumate expert on everything they either can or cannot do.

It must hurt like the dickens to admit you just made yourself look like a fool? Seems like the easy thing to do would just be to go on to another thread and forget about this one, and mark it up to experience, and realize that "I just dont know as much as what I think I do, and I should probably just keep my big mouth shut about things I know nothing about in the future" . But here you are, just coming back for more. I'm even going to bet you'll even come back with another response to this one.........Huh, how 'bout it?....:popcorn:


Again, all I did was to compliment the NL staff, and here we have 2 pages of this silly BS, because of two nimrods.......You two clowns are sure makin 13th region fans look bad.:eyeroll:

[MHS Parent4Life]

Lets put it this way, we play in the 13th region. We face North Laurel twice a year and sometime again in the regional tournament. When Middlesboro was in the process of pounding out 15 hits in the regional semi finals last year, don't you think they would have brought in at least one of these "flame throwers"? I'm telling you, they didn't have one even remotely close to throwing upper 80s.

In addition to that, you just exposed the fact that you don't even know where the radar was in Whitaker Bank Park. Middlesboro has played there several times in the past 10 years and any "ding-a-ling" can tell you that it doesn't show up on the big screen but on a very small screen just above the fence.

Don't act like a few of your boyfriends getting on and backing up legitimizes everything you say and proves us wrong. You've seen NL once. On top of playing them last year, they are scouted heavily and EVERYTHING is documented. I feel much better about what 13th region people have to say about them then some joker sitting in the bleachers trying to be big and bad with their very own radar, who has watched NL every bit of one game.

Maybe you used to coach high school. Maybe even college. My guess is that you're not doing either now and it's probably for a reason.

Now why don't you just stay off mine and Black Bear Cuz's back and move on to another thread.

[Bob Seger]

Lets put it this way, we play in the 13th region. We face North Laurel twice a year and sometime again in the regional tournament. When Middlesboro was in the process of pounding out 15 hits in the regional semi finals last year, don't you think they would have brought in at least one of these "flame throwers"? I'm telling you, they didn't have one even remotely close to throwing upper 80s.

In addition to that, you just exposed the fact that you don't even know where the radar was in Whitaker Bank Park. Middlesboro has played there several times in the past 10 years and any "ding-a-ling" can tell you that it doesn't show up on the big screen but on a very small screen just above the fence.

Don't act like a few of your boyfriends getting on and backing up legitimizes everything you say and proves us wrong. You've seen NL once. On top of playing them last year, they are scouted heavily and EVERYTHING is documented. I feel much better about what 13th region people have to say about them then some joker sitting in the bleachers trying to be big and bad with their very own radar, who has watched NL every bit of one game.

Maybe you used to coach high school. Maybe even college. My guess is that you're not doing either now and it's probably for a reason.

Now why don't you just stay off mine and Black Bear Cuz's back and move on to another thread.

Haha, I kinda knew that the other half of the infamous "ding-a-ling duo" would have to get on here and share more of those infinite words of wisdom......lol............NOT!!!!


Like I said, I dont give a rats patooty what they had last year. Perhaps they just work harder than Middlesboro. I dont recall Mboro being anything special here in the last few years, anyways. You folks need to accept that fact that Powell aint there no more....haha

Now here's the real knee slapper Goober. I doubt that you could tell me the first thing about Applebees/Whittaker to begin with....lol... Looks lke you're the one who's never been there. For your information the radar readings flash on the lower left hand corner of the BIG SCREEN. There in BIG BOLD letters are the initials that say MPH right on it, and the numbers flash at that very spot. There is a Paul Miller ad right below it, on the advertisements that surround (and here it comes again) the BIG SCREEN. Would you like me to post a picture of it? I can do that very thing for you Goober, if you like....nicker:


If you notice, there are several other posters who are not anybody that I know. I think that Van Hagar hails from down around your neck of the woods, BTW. There has not been one single poster dispute what I said, other than you two clowns, who were not even there.

Go to another thread and leave you and Cuz alone? Boy you sure are a sensitive little fella, aren't you. :Sad04:Hey Goober are you really so dumb as to not be able to figure out that I am the one who started this thread? You two nimroda are the one's who stuck your noses into something that you dont have a clue as to what you are rattling on about, ON MY THREAD!!!

Then again, maybe I have a radar gun for a reason!!!!:biggrin:

Once again, you continue on with the legacy that you have created for yourself on here. I guess old traditions just die hard.


What a moron!!!:biglmao:

[MHS Parent4Life]

Middlesboro faced North Laurel today. No one sniffed mid 80s. Mallory, Thompson, and Carson all three. You're clueless.

[Bob Seger]

Middlesboro faced North Laurel today. No one sniffed mid 80s. Mallory, Thompson, and Carson all three. You're clueless.

And you are a complete moron. You have proved that over and over and over just in this thread. It's just like claiming that the radar readings are not on the scoreboard, you have created a legacy on here of being an idiot.

Yeah , everybody in Whittaker Park just made it up.

Of course knowing you, you probably spit on your finger, stuck it up in the air and looked at a sundial to calculate velocity..


See there Blackcat, it never happened. It was all just a mirage!!!.......:biglmao: