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01-29-2013, 06:56 PM
S.W.A.T.S. sports with alternatives to steroids has said that they have give Ray Lewis deer antler spray that contains a banned drug called IGF-1 which is banned by the NFL.
Should he be consider a cheat or is this claim just someone trying to cause a distraction for him and the ravens?
Thoughts!
Should he be consider a cheat or is this claim just someone trying to cause a distraction for him and the ravens?
Thoughts!
01-29-2013, 08:14 PM
panther nation Wrote:S.W.A.T.S. sports with alternatives to steroids has said that they have give Ray Lewis deer antler spray that contains a banned drug called IGF-1 which is banned by the NFL.
Should he be consider a cheat or is this claim just someone trying to cause a distraction for him and the ravens?
Thoughts!
Is he out of prison?
01-29-2013, 10:22 PM
(USA Today Sports Images) Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis found himself in a Super Bowl week controversy on Tuesday after he was asked about possibly taking a banned substance to help his remarkable recovery from a torn triceps earlier this season.
Sports With Alternatives To Steroids (S.W.A.T.S) a company that was spotlighted by Yahoo! Sports in 2011 for providing a product that has a substance banned by the NFL, may have provided Lewis with deer-antler velvet extract spray after his triceps injury this year. That spray includes IGF-1, which is banned by the NFL.
[Related: Ray Lewis dealing with pain of ailing grandmother ]
Sports Illustrated wrote that Lewis had gone to S.W.A.T.S., which uses unconventional supplements to treat players and boost their performance, after his triceps injury in October and had perhaps used the deer-antler spray. ESPN.com reported that Lewis told the team he did not use the substance.
The SI story says S.W.A.T.S. owner Mitch Ross provided the products, but wanted Lewis to give S.W.A.T.S. credit when he returned. That didn't happen when someone asked Lewis about the report a few questions into his media-day availability.
"Two years ago that was the same report, I wouldn't give that report or him any of my press," Lewis said during his news conference, which was broadcast on the NFL Network. "He's not worthy of that. Next question."
Ravens coach John Harbaugh was asked about it as well.
"My understanding is Ray has passed every random substance test that he's taken throughout the course of his whole career," Harbaugh said. "So there's never been a test that has shown up anything along those lines."
[Related: Ray Lewis, a polarizing figure, is the Ravens' driving force ]
In the SI story, Lewis was asked about his involvement with S.W.A.T.S.
"Nobody helped me out with the rehab," Lewis told the magazine. "I've been doing S.W.A.T.S. for a couple years through Hue Jackson, that's it. That's my only connection to them."
Yahoo! Sports reported two years ago that the NFL told Jackson, who was then coach of the Oakland Raiders, to sever ties with the company because it marketed products that contained the banned IGF-1.
The SI story said Ross videotaped a phone call with Lewis just after he tore his triceps on Oct. 14. Here is a passage from SI's story regarding that phone call:
Ross prescribed a deluxe program, including holographic stickers on the right elbow; copious quantities of the powder additive; sleeping in front of a beam-ray light programmed with frequencies for tissue regeneration and pain relief; drinking negatively charged water; a 10-per-day regimen of the deer-antler pills that will "rebuild your brain via your small intestines" (and which Lewis said he hadn't been taking, then swallowed four during the conversation); and spritzes of deer-antler velvet extract (the Ultimate Spray) every two hours.
"Spray on my elbow every two hours?" Lewis asked.
"No," Ross said, "under your tongue."
Toward the end of the talk, Lewis asked Ross to "just pile me up and just send me everything you got, because I got to get back on this this week."
That's not the only controversy Lewis was asked about at media day. He was also asked about the January 2000 stabbings in Atlanta that left two people dead, in which he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor obstruction of justice and has been a popular topic again with his return to the Super Bowl.
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"I truly believe, if you take a 13-year break on anything, as hard as it is for them, as hard as it is about the things for you want me to speak about or you want to report about, I just don't believe, honestly, that this is not the appropriate time for that," Lewis said. "Because the sympathy I have for that family or what me and my family have endured because of all of that, nobody here is really qualified to ask those questions.
"I feel that this is God's time and whatever His time is, let it be His will. Don't try to please everybody with your words or try to make everybody's story sound right. At this time I would rather direct my questions in other places. I live with that every day. You maybe can take a break from it. I don't. I live with it every day of my life, and I'd rather not speak of that today."
Sports With Alternatives To Steroids (S.W.A.T.S) a company that was spotlighted by Yahoo! Sports in 2011 for providing a product that has a substance banned by the NFL, may have provided Lewis with deer-antler velvet extract spray after his triceps injury this year. That spray includes IGF-1, which is banned by the NFL.
[Related: Ray Lewis dealing with pain of ailing grandmother ]
Sports Illustrated wrote that Lewis had gone to S.W.A.T.S., which uses unconventional supplements to treat players and boost their performance, after his triceps injury in October and had perhaps used the deer-antler spray. ESPN.com reported that Lewis told the team he did not use the substance.
The SI story says S.W.A.T.S. owner Mitch Ross provided the products, but wanted Lewis to give S.W.A.T.S. credit when he returned. That didn't happen when someone asked Lewis about the report a few questions into his media-day availability.
"Two years ago that was the same report, I wouldn't give that report or him any of my press," Lewis said during his news conference, which was broadcast on the NFL Network. "He's not worthy of that. Next question."
Ravens coach John Harbaugh was asked about it as well.
"My understanding is Ray has passed every random substance test that he's taken throughout the course of his whole career," Harbaugh said. "So there's never been a test that has shown up anything along those lines."
[Related: Ray Lewis, a polarizing figure, is the Ravens' driving force ]
In the SI story, Lewis was asked about his involvement with S.W.A.T.S.
"Nobody helped me out with the rehab," Lewis told the magazine. "I've been doing S.W.A.T.S. for a couple years through Hue Jackson, that's it. That's my only connection to them."
Yahoo! Sports reported two years ago that the NFL told Jackson, who was then coach of the Oakland Raiders, to sever ties with the company because it marketed products that contained the banned IGF-1.
The SI story said Ross videotaped a phone call with Lewis just after he tore his triceps on Oct. 14. Here is a passage from SI's story regarding that phone call:
Ross prescribed a deluxe program, including holographic stickers on the right elbow; copious quantities of the powder additive; sleeping in front of a beam-ray light programmed with frequencies for tissue regeneration and pain relief; drinking negatively charged water; a 10-per-day regimen of the deer-antler pills that will "rebuild your brain via your small intestines" (and which Lewis said he hadn't been taking, then swallowed four during the conversation); and spritzes of deer-antler velvet extract (the Ultimate Spray) every two hours.
"Spray on my elbow every two hours?" Lewis asked.
"No," Ross said, "under your tongue."
Toward the end of the talk, Lewis asked Ross to "just pile me up and just send me everything you got, because I got to get back on this this week."
That's not the only controversy Lewis was asked about at media day. He was also asked about the January 2000 stabbings in Atlanta that left two people dead, in which he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor obstruction of justice and has been a popular topic again with his return to the Super Bowl.
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"I truly believe, if you take a 13-year break on anything, as hard as it is for them, as hard as it is about the things for you want me to speak about or you want to report about, I just don't believe, honestly, that this is not the appropriate time for that," Lewis said. "Because the sympathy I have for that family or what me and my family have endured because of all of that, nobody here is really qualified to ask those questions.
"I feel that this is God's time and whatever His time is, let it be His will. Don't try to please everybody with your words or try to make everybody's story sound right. At this time I would rather direct my questions in other places. I live with that every day. You maybe can take a break from it. I don't. I live with it every day of my life, and I'd rather not speak of that today."
01-29-2013, 10:23 PM
Sorry gut but I think your man is a phoney and a cheat!!
01-30-2013, 12:53 AM
The day we start worrying about whether or not a guy used deer antler spray is when its gets really pathetic.
Just a way to distract Ray and the Ravens and im sure they havent even mentioned it.
Just a way to distract Ray and the Ravens and im sure they havent even mentioned it.
01-30-2013, 12:55 AM
Wildcatk23 Wrote:Is he out of prison?
Yes, he will be playing in the Superbowl sunday.
You might see Aaron Rogers doing his discount double check during the game because he will not be involved in the superbowl in any form or fashion.
01-30-2013, 01:07 AM
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:Yes, he will be playing in the Superbowl sunday.
You might see Aaron Rogers doing his discount double check during the game because he will not be involved in the superbowl in any form or fashion.
He's also not a murderer.
Rodgers also has the same amount of super bowls as Lewis at this point.
01-30-2013, 02:20 AM
Who cares !
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01-30-2013, 02:45 AM
it's all good he's found god. lol hope he get his head taken off!
01-30-2013, 02:59 AM
I love when people call others murderers without someone being convicted.
Im just curious as to how many people were with Ray that night, because there sure are a lot whos positive he did it.
Rodgers isnt busy this weekend, maybe he can give us a perspective.
Im just curious as to how many people were with Ray that night, because there sure are a lot whos positive he did it.
Rodgers isnt busy this weekend, maybe he can give us a perspective.
01-30-2013, 08:21 AM
I could care less. I look at it differently. If he used something to get healthy, then by all means, use it. If you are using something to enhance your performance, then it's cause for concern. We pay incredibly STUPID prices for tickets to games to see SUPER STARS PLAY. So, let them take whatever they want to take so, I the fan can go cheer my favorite player, or Boo the one's that I hate. But for a fan that wants to see injured players stay injured, only to benefit your team, then you don't have a competitive bone in your body, and it's why you write about cheaters on a social media site to make up for your UNAthletic abilities!
01-30-2013, 09:37 AM
The accusation is that he ordered the meds, it doesn't mean he took them but he probably did.
I am sure with him retiring after this year that he needed something that would help him heal quick so that he could finish out the year.
Either way, he hasn't failed a drug test so until then he is innocent to me.
I am sure with him retiring after this year that he needed something that would help him heal quick so that he could finish out the year.
Either way, he hasn't failed a drug test so until then he is innocent to me.
01-30-2013, 12:38 PM
RunItUpTheGut Wrote:I love when people call others murderers without someone being convicted.
Im just curious as to how many people were with Ray that night, because there sure are a lot whos positive he did it.
Rodgers isnt busy this weekend, maybe he can give us a perspective.
He settled out of court lol.
Ray is a great football player. By all means. Its not his fault the family wanted.money over there family members death.
01-30-2013, 12:39 PM
Deer Antler Velvet Extract.....really! What distraction nicker:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_antler
Unbelievable, I stopped myself from cracking on the chinese because they would use it to supposedly keep their yangs up....and guess what, they already do per the wiki data. :igiveup:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvet_antler
Unbelievable, I stopped myself from cracking on the chinese because they would use it to supposedly keep their yangs up....and guess what, they already do per the wiki data. :igiveup:
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01-30-2013, 02:51 PM
I could care less if he used deer antler spray or not...
but the report says he used deer antler spray, drank negatively charged water and had a laser beam shot at his elbow (among other things).
Why don't we just give him a robot arm from the terminator and let him play lol
but the report says he used deer antler spray, drank negatively charged water and had a laser beam shot at his elbow (among other things).
Why don't we just give him a robot arm from the terminator and let him play lol
01-30-2013, 07:17 PM
zaga_fan Wrote:I could care less if he used deer antler spray or not...
but the report says he used deer antler spray, drank negatively charged water and had a laser beam shot at his elbow (among other things).
Why don't we just give him a robot arm from the terminator and let him play lol
The report could be wrong?
01-30-2013, 07:17 PM
The supposed spray that he received doesn't even show up on the NFL's drug test.
01-31-2013, 12:57 AM
zaga_fan Wrote:I could care less if he used deer antler spray or not...
but the report says he used deer antler spray, drank negatively charged water and had a laser beam shot at his elbow (among other things).
Why don't we just give him a robot arm from the terminator and let him play lol
That would be bad ass.
He already looks like he has a bionic arm.
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