[TidesHoss32]

Good mention of UNLV in your post. I think the '91 UNLV team is the greatest team Ive ever watched. The Duke game was a fluke, aided by some terrible Duke-assisted officiating, and I never blame the officials, but that Final Four game was blatant. Im a lifelong Hogs fan and my boys put together a nice run from '88-'95. They had the most wins in college basketball, 3 final fours (90, 94, 95), 2 title game appearances and 1 title during that time. One thing about Michigan and the Fab Five, dont forget that Michigan won the title just two years prior to that with Terry Mills, Glen Rice, Rumeal Robinson and company. So in five years, Michigans track record was pretty solid. Three final fours, three title game appearances and one title (although not the Fab Five's). Good discussion though, gentlemen. Keep it up.

[toussaints]

^ I think the thing that keeps Michigan's run out is the NIT appearance in the middle of that. I also was (still is) a huge fan of Nolan Richardson. His run at Arkansas was awesome and his 40 minutes of hell style was great to watch

[toussaints]

also, Michigan State had a nice run in the 2000s

[Steve Kuberski]

Been only one dynasty- UCLA

[TidesHoss32]

It would be hard to talk about current teams putting together dynasties today, because the quality of college (and pro) basketball is just awful. 90% of Top 10 or 15 teams in the late 80s-90s would run the tables against today's college teams, and included in that is last year's Kentucky team. Any UK team from the 90s would have beaten last year's UK team, because most of those teams could shoot the lights out. Not knocking last year's UK team, but I get tired of hearing them mentioned as one of the best of all time. They did their job and won the title, and yes they were a very good basketball team, but nowhere should they be mentioned amongst the best teams ever. The younger generation that didnt get to watch college basketball in the 80s and 90s wouldnt know what Im talking about, because of the age of one and done. The art of shooting and passing is gone. Nobody plays up-tempo anymore, and there's a difference in playing good defense and teams just not being able to shoot the ball.

[vundy33]

Lol smh...

[TidesHoss32]

Lol smh...

lol..sorry bro nicker:

[Ballers]

Kentucky (obviously)
Duke
UCLA
Kansas
UNLV

[outdoorsman43]

^ NCAA money and reputation, like always. i dont know why, they should have, but you know as well as I do that UK had no wiggle room out of their problems. It was as blatant as SMU football, only difference was UK wasn't caught twice in 3 years.

my guess is this: UCLA and Duke said they did something wrong, Kentucky was caught before they could say anything.

......Or...they are both the more media-loved, babied programs. If Duke wasn't relevant any more (I see them having a very hard time after Coach K leaves), the national college basketball media would not know what to do.

Same goes for UNC and their numerous academic scandals that have been made known and currently are being "investigated" :please:. What a joke.

The Corey Maggette and Elton Brand stuff with Duke is a great example. Enes Kanter's college basketball ban, the Ohio State football selling of championship merchandise, the suspension put on Texas point guard Myck Kabongo for this season (23 games for a simple plane ticket and workout), Shabazz Muhammad's slap-on-the-wrist punishment for worse violations than Kabongo, and the Penn State football junk from last year are all examples that come to mind when you think about the pathetic inconsistency of the NCAA.

- Enes Kanter stays committed to the University of Washington, that ban is never even thought of (NCAA president Mark Emmert was former Washington Pres.).

- The Ohio State deal is another story, but let's just say the NCAA had no business being involved. Same goes for the Penn State allegations. That sick incident had nothing to do with sports and the federal court was handling it just fine. The NCAA had absolutely ZERO business being involved.

- If Myck Kabongo plays for a media darling (Duke, UNC, UCLA, etc.), little to nothing happens.

- Shabazz Muhammad, playing for UCLA, of course is playing college basketball with no worries. If he committed to Kentucky, he would have received the "Enes Kanter ban" and everyone knows it. Not like it's a big secret. If the NCAA could have proven anything on Nerlens Noel, we wouldn't have saw him this season.

What an incredibly pathetic group of league officials college sports has to put up with.

[RunItUpTheGut]

In all honesty, will Duke ever be a powerhous again after Krynjkfnkfski is gone?
I dont think so.

[Observing]

To this day Dwane Casey insists that he didn't send any money. He was later cleared by the NCAA and won a defamation suit against Emery Air Freight shortly after the mess. It was described as a "healthy" sum. The facts of the case are clear, Casey's finger prints were never found on the package and it was proven that he was not in Lexington the day it was mailed. I never did buy the Emery Air employs claim that the envelope just fell open, even if that is the case, I don't think the $1k would have made it the Boss. Common sense will tell you that the money was clearly a plant and emery Air Freight payed the price for it, rumored to have been $5 million.

I've ALWAYS felt that story was complete bs. because if you WERE going to cheat and pay a player, that is certainly NOT how you would do it. You would NEVER stick a wad of cash in an envelope and send it. You put it in their hands in person, or rather your surrogate does. If a kid's shady and going
take the payoff, why wouldn't he say he never got the money? Not to emntion that $1K was a ridiculously smal amount of money.

What I figured happened was along these lines. UK and UCLA were both
recruiting Don MaCLean, a so-Cal boy who hadn't committed. The Emory employees at the depot saw a package from UK to Mills and popped it open, stuffed in cash, took a picture and fed the story to a reporter. They figured it would be a smal scandal story that would help sway MaClean, and never thought it would become a major story and become caught up in teh NCAA investigation and law suits. And Emory had to settle in a case of CYA.

[Observing]

In all honesty, will Duke ever be a powerhous again after Krynjkfnkfski is gone?
I dont think so.

Duke's not a powerhouse now with him. He's a superior coach, and
because of that he's able to mold teams in to more than the sum of
their parts. but Duke has not matched up to the top level teams
in talent for a few years now. And after K retires, they will VERY
likely become an afterthought. A team that produce some moderately
good years, but only threatens as an NCAA titlist once in blue moon
iof ever.

[Jarons]

I've ALWAYS felt that story was complete bs. because if you WERE going to cheat and pay a player, that is certainly NOT how you would do it. You would NEVER stick a wad of cash in an envelope and send it. You put it in their hands in person, or rather your surrogate does. If a kid's shady and going
take the payoff, why wouldn't he say he never got the money? Not to emntion that $1K was a ridiculously smal amount of money.

What I figured happened was along these lines. UK and UCLA were both
recruiting Don MaCLean, a so-Cal boy who hadn't committed. The Emory employees at the depot saw a package from UK to Mills and popped it open, stuffed in cash, took a picture and fed the story to a reporter. They figured it would be a smal scandal story that would help sway MaClean, and never thought it would become a major story and become caught up in teh NCAA investigation and law suits. And Emory had to settle in a case of CYA.

That's funny!!!!!!!!!:lmao: