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11-19-2012, 03:44 PM
Zach Morris is God Wrote:As a first time visitor to the CAM, are men allowed to wear skinny jeans there?
Only if they are camo, deer hunter orange, or carhart brand.
11-19-2012, 03:50 PM
Belfry0304 Wrote:We will try to get you corn chips. Of course you are, we are friendly people. You may get called a few names, but hey, you're probably used to it if you wear them often
Zach Morris has a doggone job that requires him be in attendance on Friday till the mid afternoon. Who works on Black Friday anyway? However I do love my job and I love being able to buy special things for Kelly K.
If you have corn chips, I may stop by if I get there soon enough! I do eat like a half bag of corn chips at a time, especially if you have a little salsa on the side. I will burn the mountain parkway down if you have good salsa. Especially if you get the kind they sell at the Wal-Mart there in South Williamson. I here the salsa at the wal-mart in South Williamson is to die for. Literally, to die for. Bruce Willis once stopped by there just for a taste of the salsa.
11-19-2012, 03:52 PM
EKUAlum05 Wrote:Only if they are camo, deer hunter orange, or carhart brand.
I got the perfect combo of carhart jacket, camo boxer shorts, and orange skinny jeans! I am all set. I cannot wait! Zach Morris loves him some South Williamson! North Williamson just doesn't love me like South Williamson. It's a bayside-southside connection.
11-19-2012, 03:52 PM
Just a second ago you were making the trip down listening to our fight song the whole way in anticipation of hearing our band? Now you have changed your mind? Come on Morris, pick a story and stick to it.
11-19-2012, 03:58 PM
Belfry0304 Wrote:Just a second ago you were making the trip down listening to our fight song the whole way in anticipation of hearing our band? Now you have changed your mind? Come on Morris, pick a story and stick to it.
Oh I will be there! I will likely not be there in time to tailgate however. I will be listening to the Belfry Band, thinking about how amazing the Bourbon band was that one evening in late October. The bands, the salsa, the CAM! Thinking about it makes me go HAM!
11-19-2012, 04:25 PM
Pirates 42-21
11-19-2012, 04:44 PM
This will be another interesting game come Friday. I think the game plan for both teams will be similar to the Belfry vs Breathitt plan.
Bourbon needs some big plays from their athletes to upset the stingy Belfry defense. If Bourbon can jump on Belfry early they can really put the Pirates behind the 8 ball.
Belfry need to, we'll be Belfry. Elimanate the big plays. Make Bourbon sustain long drives and let their defense make plays as it has all season. On offense don't make killer mistakes ( turnovers and penalties). If Johnson is unable to play Belfry's offense loses its best play maker. It is even more important to not get behind without him.
Should be a great game. Good luck to both.
Bourbon needs some big plays from their athletes to upset the stingy Belfry defense. If Bourbon can jump on Belfry early they can really put the Pirates behind the 8 ball.
Belfry need to, we'll be Belfry. Elimanate the big plays. Make Bourbon sustain long drives and let their defense make plays as it has all season. On offense don't make killer mistakes ( turnovers and penalties). If Johnson is unable to play Belfry's offense loses its best play maker. It is even more important to not get behind without him.
Should be a great game. Good luck to both.
11-19-2012, 04:54 PM
^Love it lol!!
11-19-2012, 05:08 PM
What's the status of Justin Johnson for this game??
11-19-2012, 05:22 PM
McCameraMan Wrote:What's the status of Justin Johnson for this game??
He is most likely done for the year, and next year possibly too. The local doctors have told him to call it quits, but he said he would like to see a concussion specialist. His health, safety, and future are far more important that the game.
11-19-2012, 06:11 PM
^ wow that's awful to hear. I didn't realize how serious it was. I hope everything goes well for him. I don't know him, but I know he's a heck of a football players I'm sure a great kid. Prayers for him and his family.
11-19-2012, 09:46 PM
I do the tailgating with the help of all my friends and we welcome Bourbon County fans to come and join us we start at 4:30 and up until game time.
11-19-2012, 11:43 PM
long_time_pirate Wrote:I do the tailgating with the help of all my friends and we welcome Bourbon County fans to come and join us we start at 4:30 and up until game time.
And brang me some hot chocolate baby.....whoaaaaaaaaaaa!,!!!
11-20-2012, 08:54 AM
I read this thread and can't help but laugh that the only Bourbon fan in here is Preppy.

11-20-2012, 09:28 AM
No Dog in this fight. Somerset Scrimmaged Bourbon and I've seen Belfry on tape. I like Belfry in this one. 42-21
11-20-2012, 09:29 AM
One common opp. Harrison co
Belfry 46-14
Bourbon 51-8
Should be a great match
Belfry 46-14
Bourbon 51-8
Should be a great match
11-20-2012, 10:34 AM
I keep seeing high score predictions for the Belfry win. Belfry may very well win this game, but I would be VERY surprised if they put up big numbers in doing so.
IMO this will be one of the quickest defenses they have seen all year, and their scores will come off long sustained drives, and not quick hits. Belfry is going to grind Bourbon out 3-4 yards at a time, and if they are going to be successful, its their defense not their offense that will need to be big. Bourbon is a quick hitting team, and can put up points in a hurry. Belfry will need to stop Hopkins at the line of scrimmage, teams that have kept it close were successful at stopping Hopkins before he got to the second level, because once he gets to linebacker level, he is deadly. The biggest mistake Belfry can make is single in on Hopkins. Bourbon is full of athletes (Hopkins is maybe the 3-4 most athletic player on the team) and any of those guys are capable of taking it to the house in a flash. We'll see on Friday, but I think a lot people on this board are going to be shocked at what they see from Bourbon Co. and the balance of their team. They could come out and lay an egg, but I just don't see it happening.
IMO this will be one of the quickest defenses they have seen all year, and their scores will come off long sustained drives, and not quick hits. Belfry is going to grind Bourbon out 3-4 yards at a time, and if they are going to be successful, its their defense not their offense that will need to be big. Bourbon is a quick hitting team, and can put up points in a hurry. Belfry will need to stop Hopkins at the line of scrimmage, teams that have kept it close were successful at stopping Hopkins before he got to the second level, because once he gets to linebacker level, he is deadly. The biggest mistake Belfry can make is single in on Hopkins. Bourbon is full of athletes (Hopkins is maybe the 3-4 most athletic player on the team) and any of those guys are capable of taking it to the house in a flash. We'll see on Friday, but I think a lot people on this board are going to be shocked at what they see from Bourbon Co. and the balance of their team. They could come out and lay an egg, but I just don't see it happening.
11-20-2012, 11:06 AM
Belfry by 21
11-20-2012, 11:21 AM
Belfry
11-20-2012, 11:31 AM
I'm really afraid to predict this one because I think Belfry big but I could really get fooled. Bourbon does not matchup well with Belfry up front and my head tells me that is a huge disadvantage. Bourbons big playmakers could even that out some but I think over the stretch of a complete game they will be physically and mentally worn down. If Belfry continues to stay in second and 4 or 3rd and 1's. Lights out Bourbon. When a 7 minute drive gets rammed down your throat it is very disheartening. Good luck to both teams. Another group of seniors will be playing their last game. Good luck young men!!!
11-20-2012, 12:04 PM
HSFOOTBALL Wrote:I keep seeing high score predictions for the Belfry win. Belfry may very well win this game, but I would be VERY surprised if they put up big numbers in doing so.
IMO this will be one of the quickest defenses they have seen all year, and their scores will come off long sustained drives, and not quick hits. Belfry is going to grind Bourbon out 3-4 yards at a time, and if they are going to be successful, its their defense not their offense that will need to be big. Bourbon is a quick hitting team, and can put up points in a hurry. Belfry will need to stop Hopkins at the line of scrimmage, teams that have kept it close were successful at stopping Hopkins before he got to the second level, because once he gets to linebacker level, he is deadly. The biggest mistake Belfry can make is single in on Hopkins. Bourbon is full of athletes (Hopkins is maybe the 3-4 most athletic player on the team) and any of those guys are capable of taking it to the house in a flash. We'll see on Friday, but I think a lot people on this board are going to be shocked at what they see from Bourbon Co. and the balance of their team. They could come out and lay an egg, but I just don't see it happening.
Belfry won't single in on Hopkins. They rarely, if ever, adjust their defense to play a single person. What will be variable is whether they use their OLB/DE's for run support/penetration...or use them more in a pass coverage/read role.
When Belfry plays running teams they have a 5-2 Defense...without changing any players...they run a 3-4 against spread teams and stand up Messer/Hatfield as more of a LB.
I have sang the praises of Bourbon County on here for a while, and the Colonels are not only capable of beating Belfry, I could see them winning by a fairly large margin if they got up early and Belfry started turning the ball over. The Colonels have big play threats at every skill position. In my opinion they have the best offensive team in 3A this year, or at the very least the most balanced.
With that said, just as you say Belfry fans are underestimating Bourbon, I feel you may be underestimating Belfry. Belfry is going to be the fastest, most disciplined, most physical, and most explosive team Bourbon has faced. The Harris kid from Madison Southern is certainly the best skill player the Colonels have seen, but Belfry will probably bring numbers 2-7 to the table at the very least. As good as the Caudill kid from Garrard is at LB, Belfry has two of him in Mullins and Ghormley.
What I saw out of Bourbon is a team who makes impressive plays with their skill players and a team who struggles when they are asked to put together long drives. The Bourbon line is good for big plays. They give the QB just enough time to get the ball out to his WR's who either make a play in the open field or simply run past DB's. They hold their blocks just long enough for Hopkins to use his speed to get the edge. They are just quick enough to stay with the play and get just enough of a defender for Hopkins to break a tackle in the 2nd level and get off to the races. At no point do you see them manhandle an opposing defense or impose their will. When the Pirates want to apply pressure or try to disrupt plays in the backfield, I see them doing so. For Bourbon to win the key is going to be to maintain balance and force Belfry to honor an intermediate passing game. That is the only way you keep Messer and Hatfield floating in space on defense and out of the backfield, which should in turn give more chances for Hopkins to make a play in the running game, and subsequently open up the deep ball on offense.Defensively, I see a Bourbon DL who scraps and fights and occupies blockers, but does not necessarily make plays. They do a good job of keeping lanes clean for LB's to fill, but at not point do they show the ability to be a disruptive force on their own.
I can see this game being a blowout for Belfry where they physically exhaust Bourbon and the Colonels offense works against them to give Belfry more chances to drive the football and good field position.
I can also see Bourbon jumping on Belfry and forcing the Pirates to play their tempo, where they subsequently blow Belfry out.
I think the way it most likely plays out is in that middle ground. I see Belfry moving the ball consistently, and hurting Bourbon with some big gashes either with the play action passing game or when the Colonels blow an assignment. I see Bourbon getting a couple stops either by blowing a play up in the backfield to force long yardage, or piggy backing a Belfry penalty that the Pirates can't pick up the necessary yardage. I see Bourbon hitting some home runs offensively, but with the Pirates getting them off the field fairly quickly on a few drives.
What I think this comes down to is familiarity. I think the Pirates are more familiar with the landscape of this game and will be less suspect to make mental errors brought on by nerves or trying to force things. I think Belfry is more familiar with playing an equal class of competition, whereas Bourbon will have to adjust to the speed of the game and the physicality. I think this is the recipe for critical turnovers and assignment errors that make the difference between otherwise two equal, but opposite opponents.
My prediction:
Belfry 33
Bourbon 24
Pirates clinch it with a late, long scoring drive against a tiring Colonel defense.
11-20-2012, 12:20 PM
EKUAlum05 Wrote:Belfry won't single in on Hopkins. They rarely, if ever, adjust their defense to play a single person. What will be variable is whether they use their OLB/DE's for run support/penetration...or use them more in a pass coverage/read role.
When Belfry plays running teams they have a 5-2 Defense...without changing any players...they run a 3-4 against spread teams and stand up Messer/Hatfield as more of a LB.
I have sang the praises of Bourbon County on here for a while, and the Colonels are not only capable of beating Belfry, I could see them winning by a fairly large margin if they got up early and Belfry started turning the ball over. The Colonels have big play threats at every skill position. In my opinion they have the best offensive team in 3A this year, or at the very least the most balanced.
With that said, just as you say Belfry fans are underestimating Bourbon, I feel you may be underestimating Belfry. Belfry is going to be the fastest, most disciplined, most physical, and most explosive team Bourbon has faced. The Harris kid from Madison Southern is certainly the best skill player the Colonels have seen, but Belfry will probably bring numbers 2-7 to the table at the very least. As good as the Caudill kid from Garrard is at LB, Belfry has two of him in Mullins and Ghormley.
What I saw out of Bourbon is a team who makes impressive plays with their skill players and a team who struggles when they are asked to put together long drives. The Bourbon line is good for big plays. They give the QB just enough time to get the ball out to his WR's who either make a play in the open field or simply run past DB's. They hold their blocks just long enough for Hopkins to use his speed to get the edge. They are just quick enough to stay with the play and get just enough of a defender for Hopkins to break a tackle in the 2nd level and get off to the races. At no point do you see them manhandle an opposing defense or impose their will. When the Pirates want to apply pressure or try to disrupt plays in the backfield, I see them doing so. For Bourbon to win the key is going to be to maintain balance and force Belfry to honor an intermediate passing game. That is the only way you keep Messer and Hatfield floating in space on defense and out of the backfield, which should in turn give more chances for Hopkins to make a play in the running game, and subsequently open up the deep ball on offense.
I can see this game being a blowout for Belfry where they physically exhaust Bourbon and the Colonels offense works against them to give Belfry more chances to drive the football and good field position.
I can also see Bourbon jumping on Belfry and forcing the Pirates to play their tempo, where they subsequently blow Belfry out.
I think the way it most likely plays out is in that middle ground. I see Belfry moving the ball consistently, and hurting Bourbon with some big gashes either with the play action passing game or when the Colonels blow an assignment. I see Bourbon getting a couple stops either by blowing a play up in the backfield to force long yardage, or piggy backing a Belfry penalty that the Pirates can't pick up the necessary yardage. I see Bourbon hitting some home runs offensively, but with the Pirates getting them off the field fairly quickly on a few drives.
What I think this comes down to is familiarity. I think the Pirates are more familiar with the landscape of this game and will be less suspect to make mental errors brought on by nerves or trying to force things. I think Belfry is more familiar with playing an equal class of competition, whereas Bourbon will have to adjust to the speed of the game and the physicality. I think this is the recipe for critical turnovers and assignment errors that make the difference between otherwise two equal, but opposite opponents.
My prediction:
Belfry 33
Bourbon 24
Pirates clinch it with a late, long scoring drive against a physically exhausted Colonel defense.
I agree with the entire post except the bold part. Go through the last 5 pages of this thread and see how many people picked Bourbon. Bourbon is supposed to lose and according to most people (sans you) lose big. You can't underestimate such an overwhelming favorite. I am simply letting those fans, who are not as informed as you, know that Bourbon isn't a slouch and if Henry Clay and Ashland beat Belfry because of their athleticism, then this could be a recipe for disaster. You can watch all the game film of the first Garrard game that you want, but if you watch Bourbon's last 3 games, you will understand that this team is on a mission, and I don't think the bright lights and loud crowd of CAM stadium is going to effect the performance given. Should be a doozy!
11-20-2012, 12:25 PM
Is the gametime the normal 7:30 startup?
11-20-2012, 01:00 PM
HSFOOTBALL Wrote:I agree with the entire post except the bold part. Go through the last 5 pages of this thread and see how many people picked Bourbon. Bourbon is supposed to lose and according to most people (sans you) lose big. You can't underestimate such an overwhelming favorite. I am simply letting those fans, who are not as informed as you, know that Bourbon isn't a slouch and if Henry Clay and Ashland beat Belfry because of their athleticism, then this could be a recipe for disaster. You can watch all the game film of the first Garrard game that you want, but if you watch Bourbon's last 3 games, you will understand that this team is on a mission, and I don't think the bright lights and loud crowd of CAM stadium is going to effect the performance given. Should be a doozy!
I know it serves little consolation, but in my eyes Bourbon is the furthest thing from a slouch. I feel much more nervous about this game then Breathitt, FWIW. With Breathitt, knew if Belfry could limit Trent and could establish an alternative way to loosen up the Bobcat defense aside from running between tackles that the Pirates stood a very good shot.
Against Bourbon I have to trust that Belfry doesn't get burnt by about 4 different playmakers...all custom suited to attack area where Belfry has allowed points this year.
The best thing that happened to Belfry leading up to this game was Garrard County pushing them to their absolute limit last year. As good as Belfry's coaching staff is at preparing and telling the kids to focus, they are still teenagers. Belfry should have beat Garrard by 2-3 TD's last year, but the Lions surprised Belfry with how quick, explosive, and hard nosed they were. Belfry woke up in time, and benefited from costly turnovers/penalties, enough to survive, but they learned a valuable lesson about how dangerous teams can be when you are judging off pedigree and their record against teams who have nothing to do with you.
Well, at least I hope they learned that lesson at least

11-20-2012, 01:08 PM
PaytoPlay Wrote:I read this thread and can't help but laugh that the only Bourbon fan in here is Preppy.
It's because Bourbon Co. has the BEST DOGGONE FFA IN THE STATE! I am telling you Belfry has that Massey Energy, but Bourbon owns the FFA market. Adena Spring Field is amazing. I actually met Kelly K. on a hay ride once. We were riding horses. I give all the credit to the FFA!
EKUALUM is the man. That is a detailed, incredible breakdown. I am proud of you bro!!!!
I have a feeling that Dalton Pope may be a key to the game! If he can stay away from the wal-mart salsa before the game I think he could have several big plays.
I want popcorn. :popcorn:
11-20-2012, 01:56 PM
[quote=HSFOOTBALL]I agree with the entire post except the bold part. Go through the last 5 pages of this thread and see how many people picked Bourbon. Bourbon is supposed to lose and according to most people (sans you) lose big. You can't underestimate such an overwhelming favorite. I am simply letting those fans, who are not as informed as you, know that Bourbon isn't a slouch and if Henry Clay and Ashland beat Belfry because of their athleticism, then this could be a recipe for disaster. You can watch all the game film of the first Garrard game that you want, but if you watch Bourbon's last 3 games, you will understand that this team is on a mission, and I don't think the bright lights and loud crowd of CAM stadium is going to effect the performance given. Should be a doozy![/Q
Well Henry clay nor Ashland beat Belfry with athleticism....In my opinion, for one we didn't have all our players, and two more costly mistakes......Bourbon will be no slouch but one things for sure they are bout to play the best Team they faced all year...
Well Henry clay nor Ashland beat Belfry with athleticism....In my opinion, for one we didn't have all our players, and two more costly mistakes......Bourbon will be no slouch but one things for sure they are bout to play the best Team they faced all year...
11-20-2012, 02:45 PM
Pirate1991#8 Wrote:[quote=HSFOOTBALL]I agree with the entire post except the bold part. Go through the last 5 pages of this thread and see how many people picked Bourbon. Bourbon is supposed to lose and according to most people (sans you) lose big. You can't underestimate such an overwhelming favorite. I am simply letting those fans, who are not as informed as you, know that Bourbon isn't a slouch and if Henry Clay and Ashland beat Belfry because of their athleticism, then this could be a recipe for disaster. You can watch all the game film of the first Garrard game that you want, but if you watch Bourbon's last 3 games, you will understand that this team is on a mission, and I don't think the bright lights and loud crowd of CAM stadium is going to effect the performance given. Should be a doozy

11-20-2012, 03:15 PM
HSFOOTBALL Wrote:[quote=Pirate1991#8]
It must just be a coincidence that Henry Clay and Ashland were the only 2 "athletic" teams that Belfry faced this year.hh:
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No i would have to say JOhnson central and breathitt were pretty athletic....just outta curiosity how many athletic teams has Bourbon played....or for that matter what "GOOD" TEAM:rockon:
11-20-2012, 05:01 PM
Pirate1991#8 Wrote:[quote=HSFOOTBALL]
No i would have to say JOhnson central and breathitt were pretty athletic....just outta curiosity how many athletic teams has Bourbon played....or for that matter what "GOOD" TEAM:rockon:
EWWWWWWWW! I like it, now we got some trash talking!!! Bourbon hasn't played anybody all year long. They walked through a cake schedule and walked through a cake playoff run. That's the beauty of it. No one knows how good or bad Bourbon is, and it is up to Belfry to prove it!
Side note: If you think Johnson Central and Breathitt were athletic, you are in for a rude awakening come Friday. No offense to the kid, but I do know that if Trent is the most athletic kid on Breathitt's team (as stated by Breathitt's fans) that is a far cry from the athleticism that Henry Clay and Ashland possess. I have seen Henry Clay play, and I would say Bourbon is all around more athletic. Generally speaking, I would put Bourbon on the same level as Louisville Central with athleticism, if anything, maybe just a hair shy. JMO FWIW!!!!

11-20-2012, 05:06 PM
Should be an excellent game. Bourbon Co will bring some speed to the cam just like Henry Clay did this year. I really hope the Belfry defense can contain and stop them.. Bourbon is undefeated and im sure they hope to remain that way but im glad this game is at the CAM because Belfry hold a huge factor playing at home and the CAM will be rocking....
Belfry 30
Bourbon 22
Belfry 30
Bourbon 22
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