[Stardust]

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama says his encounter with Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer has been "blown out of proportion" and was not a big deal.

Obama spoke with ABC's Diane Sawyer about the Wednesday incident at the airport tarmac in Mesa, Ariz. After the two were observed in intense conversation, Brewer told reporters Obama had complained to her about his depiction in her book "Scorpions for Breakfast." The governor wrote that the president lectured her condescendingly about immigration.

Obama said it's good publicity for a Republican to argue with him - but that it was no big deal and that he told Brewer in response to her request that he'd be happy to meet with her.

He said it's a classic example of things getting blown out of proportion.

Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2012/01/26/20448...rylink=cpy

[nky]

Good for her for standing up for herself

[Bob Seger]

She's definately one tough lady.alute:

[nky]

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[nky]

She's really a Birther
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[RunItUpTheGut]

While shes been criticized a lot for her views on immigration, i couldnt agree with her more.

I dont see why the liberal youth and even minorities for that matter dont understand that for every person we let in this country it takes away from us as well as a threat to our security and most importantly takes away oppertunities from our children in the future.

Lock it down.

[Granny Bear]

Well, when I'm pulled over by the police I must show photo id.
Why should it be any different for someone without citizenship?

[TheRealVille]

Well, when I'm pulled over by the police I must show photo id.
Why should it be any different for someone without citizenship?

Everyone has to show ID, even non citizens.

[TheRealVille]

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She's one ugly lady, whatever party she is.

[Granny Bear]

Everyone has to show ID, even non citizens.

Wasn't that one of the issues being protested?

[TheRealVille]

Wasn't that one of the issues being protested?

No. That's an issue you will hear from the right, but it's not true. Any police officer can ask to see ID if they stop a car. The issue is, can they stop a car with what appears to be a Mexican, and ask to see legal immigrant papers. The issue is can they stop a Mexican looking person, even though they aren't doing anything wrong.

[nky]

No. That's an issue you will hear from the right, but it's not true. Any police officer can ask to see ID if they stop a car. The issue is, can they stop a car with what appears to be a Mexican, and ask to see legal immigrant papers. The issue is can they stop a Mexican looking person, even though they aren't doing anything wrong.

no they can't

2. requires law enforcement, in making a lawful stop, detention, or arrest for another law, to make a reasonable attempt to determine the person's immigration status where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is not lawfully present in the country;

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0213.htm

[RunItUpTheGut]

^
They should stop every single car that comes into the country and do a check.
It would greatly stop the flow of traffic coming in to the states.

[Granny Bear]

I'm randomly stopped by road blocks all the time.....
wonder if I look Mexican??

[TheRealVille]

no they can't

2. requires law enforcement, in making a lawful stop, detention, or arrest for another law, to make a reasonable attempt to determine the person's immigration status where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is not lawfully present in the country;

http://www.cga.ct.gov/2010/rpt/2010-R-0213.htm

That's my point though. Most people on the right say they want people profiled by how they look. If you look Mexican, "you might just be an illegal, so proved to me you are an American."

[nky]

That's my point though. Most people on the right say they want people profiled by how they look. If you look Mexican, "you might just be an illegal, so proved to me you are an American."

that's not what the law says

[Frank Dux]

That's my point though. Most people on the right say they want people profiled by how they look. If you look Mexican, "you might just be an illegal, so proved to me you are an American."

You Sir/Mam are crazy. Please show me an actual clip or article that does not come from the left wing main stream media or some liberal blog. Look, I'm as conservative as they come, been voting that way since the mid 70's, and I do not know of one person or political figure that believes one word you just said. I have been pulled over "several times" in forty plus years behind the wheel. As white as I am, I have had officers run my liscense too, just to make sure I have no outstanding warrants. It is nothing unusual.

My gripe is that some liberals, not all, want to give illegals all the benefits and rights that natural born American's have or those that have went throught the appropriate channels to access citizenship have. If you are here illegally, then you have committed a crime and should be deported. If you want to come to the US the correct way after that, then we will let you have another shot. Why should an illegal have any say so in any public election for someone to represent them when technically they are not legally a part of our society? I want them to ID individuals that vote. I have to have ID for every continuing education course, job application, credit card transaction and the list goes on. How long would it hold up the voting process if one were to ask to see photo ID?

But back to the real topic, your image that you are trying to paint on the conservative party is the typical smear job that I am sure we will see in the near future with the Chicago politics and the Black Panthers again.

[TheRealVille]

You Sir/Mam are crazy. Please show me an actual clip or article that does not come from the left wing main stream media or some liberal blog. Look, I'm as conservative as they come, been voting that way since the mid 70's, and I do not know of one person or political figure that believes one word you just said. I have been pulled over "several times" in forty plus years behind the wheel. As white as I am, I have had officers run my liscense too, just to make sure I have no outstanding warrants. It is nothing unusual.

My gripe is that some liberals, not all, want to give illegals all the benefits and rights that natural born American's have or those that have went throught the appropriate channels to access citizenship have. If you are here illegally, then you have committed a crime and should be deported. If you want to come to the US the correct way after that, then we will let you have another shot. Why should an illegal have any say so in any public election for someone to represent them when technically they are not legally a part of our society? I want them to ID individuals that vote. I have to have ID for every continuing education course, job application, credit card transaction and the list goes on. How long would it hold up the voting process if one were to ask to see photo ID?

But back to the real topic, your image that you are trying to paint on the conservative party is the typical smear job that I am sure we will see in the near future with the Chicago politics and the Black Panthers again.

First bold: I don't need an article, I hear it everyday. BTW, there are no "non liberal media" according to your people. Anytime someone posts an article about something the right doesn't agree with, they call it a liberal rag. If you think that your "mothership" is fair and balanced, you are as crazy as you claim I am.


As to the second bold: I'm all for getting the illegals deported. Obama is deporting record numbers of illegals, the most in more than a decade. 400,000 last year.

[Old School]

First bold: I don't need an article, I hear it everyday. BTW, there are no "non liberal media" according to your people. Anytime someone posts an article about something the right doesn't agree with, they call it a liberal rag. If you think that your "mothership" is fair and balanced, you are as crazy as you claim I am.


As to the second bold: I'm all for getting the illegals deported. Obama is deporting record numbers of illegals, the most in more than a decade. 400,000 last year.

Currently there are a record number of illegals in the U.S., so it shouldn't surprise anyone that more are being deported.

[Bob Seger]

^ How many walk right back across the border two hours after being deported?

Record numbers?

[Truth]

I fully support racial profiling. I even support having pregnancy tests solely for females. Of course, if I were politically correct, I would have to support such tests for all- male as well as female. If I don't have such an idiotic viewpoint, and I don't, I am, I suppose seen by Barry and the other nuts as a sexual profiler.

[Hoot Gibson]

Unless President Obama planned to apologize the Gov. Brewer for directing the United States to sue the state of Arizona, she had no business greeting Obama at the airport. Obama has declared war on states that have conservative governors and it is an abuse of power.

[Old School]

Unless President Obama planned to apologize the Gov. Brewer for directing the United States to sue the state of Arizona, she had no business greeting Obama at the airport. Obama has declared war on states that have conservative governors and it is an abuse of power.

I'd say Brewer felt that meeting Obama as he walked off the plane was her only chance to have a one on one conversation with him.

[SKINNYPIG]

That's my point though. Most people on the right say they want people profiled by how they look. If you look Mexican, "you might just be an illegal, so proved to me you are an American."

I wonder what percentage of the hundreds of thousands of "illegals" are Mexican and what percentage are white? If you are an officer of the law and want to help your state/community get rid of illegals, which scenario throws up the brightest red flag, a car load of white people or a car load of Mexicans? If you don't profile, how can you justify even trying to help your community with the problem of illegals? Just saying.

[TheRealVille]

I wonder what percentage of the hundreds of thousands of "illegals" are Mexican and what percentage are white? If you are an officer of the law and want to help your state/community get rid of illegals, which scenario throws up the brightest red flag, a car load of white people or a car load of Mexicans? If you don't profile, how can you justify even trying to help your community with the problem of illegals? Just saying.

No argument from me.

[BillyB]

Jan is just missing the hat . . . .

[TheRealVille]

I wonder what percentage of the hundreds of thousands of "illegals" are Mexican and what percentage are white? If you are an officer of the law and want to help your state/community get rid of illegals, which scenario throws up the brightest red flag, a car load of white people or a car load of Mexicans? If you don't profile, how can you justify even trying to help your community with the problem of illegals? Just saying.

While I have no argument with getting rid of illegals, you do realize that in your scenario, the police would be breaking the law by singling out the Mexicans, right? Helping their community means nothing if they break the law to do it. BTW, Mexicans do the jobs that most americans won't even touch.

[SKINNYPIG]

While I have no argument with getting rid of illegals, you do realize that in your scenario, the police would be breaking the law by singling out the Mexicans, right? Helping their community means nothing if they break the law to do it. BTW, Mexicans do the jobs that most americans won't even touch.

Yes, I realize they can't legally profile when trying to rid their communities of illegals. Officers are sort of in a tough spot. They can only check the legality of individuals if they are breaking the law in some way. So, as long as illegals are good boys and girls, they can continue to go about their business of being an illegal alien. In other words, they can break one law as long as they don't break another. Makes it almost impossible to to nail hundreds of thousands of illegals, all of which are breaking the law. What law am I allowed to break as long as I don't break another? If I'm a police officer and I want to crack down on illegal aliens in my county, the first thing I do is gather evidence. I would be pretty stupid to stake out citizens I know are legal. Wouldn't it make sense to gather evidence from the Mexican citizens? But I can't, because their Mexican, right? "Illegal" Mexicans do the jobs you say we won't do. Does that make them legal?

[Granny Bear]

Yes, I realize they can't legally profile when trying to rid their communities of illegals. Officers are sort of in a tough spot. They can only check the legality of individuals if they are breaking the law in some way. So, as long as illegals are good boys and girls, they can continue to go about their business of being an illegal alien. In other words, they can break one law as long as they don't break another. Makes it almost impossible to to nail hundreds of thousands of illegals, all of which are breaking the law. What law am I allowed to break as long as I don't break another? If I'm a police officer and I want to crack down on illegal aliens in my county, the first thing I do is gather evidence. I would be pretty stupid to stake out citizens I know are legal. Wouldn't it make sense to gather evidence from the Mexican citizens? But I can't, because their Mexican, right? "Illegal" Mexicans do the jobs you say we won't do. Does that make them legal?

So, can a law officer check their credentials/photo id on a routine stop or not? I was under the impression that they couldn't, but got "served" when I made that statement earlier in the post.

It seems to me that I must show photo id when asked but illegals can't even be asked. If that's correct, then it's just more BS. I don't know....maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I've worked and/or gone to school since age 12. It just seems like the citizens' whose back this country is built and sustained have fewer rights that non-citizens who are here illegally. I've been saving for my grand children's college education ever since they were born, but suddenly it appears more profitable if I divorce my husband, renounce my citizenship, move to Mexico, come back illegally. THEN, I wouldn't have to pay for nearly as much and no one would be allowed to challenge my position.

That's just messed up.

[Bear Nut]

I can picture you swimming the Rio now!!
:thatsfunn