[mr.charlie hustle]

Congrats to Joe Chirico, and congrats to Paintsville High School for making an excellent hire.

Let me publically say to Joe: "Thank You" for your time and help at Prestonsburg. He contributed mightily to the success of the past 3-4 years of the Blackcats, and he will be missed.

I have said before: Joe may be one of the best coaches in any sport at any level I have ever had the pleasure to watch work. This is a homecoming of sorts for him, and I am happy for him personally.

Welcome back, Tigers. You will improve almost immediately and in a couple of years...look out 1A.

Another classy post 86. Joe is truly a class act himself.

[dirtybird]

I'm glad Coy Sammons saw the light and did what it took to get Chirico back on staff. Aside from Jim Matney, Chirico is the next best coach in the Johnson Co. area.

[bluestorm]

id say runyon had alot to do with chirco comming back he coached for bmr before

[dirtybird]

id say runyon had alot to do with chirco comming back he coached for bmr before

I'd say it has a lot more to do with the community wanting Chirico and Sammons knowing they "need" Chirico. I'm sure BMR did want him back because Chirico did the majority of the coaching in '05

[bluestorm]

oh well who ever ideal it was a good one i hope bmr calls plays and goes back to i formation like he use to run and another thing i would see go back to the old helmet colors

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

From what I hear there will be white helmets next year. And I love chirico to death, as I have said on here before. But in 05 he did not in any way shape or form do the majority of the coaching.

[bluestorm]

bmr is great a calling plays the year they played for the state championship he called the plays he was the ofc ithink in 86 or 87

[Mr. Birnbaum]

[quote=PaintsvilleTigerfan]From what I hear there will be white helmets next year. And I love chirico to death, as I have said on here before. But in 05 he did not in any way shape or form do the majority of the coaching.[/QUOTE]

You didn't even play in '05. Hence, you wouldn't know.

[theoldballcoach]

bmr is great a calling plays the year they played for the state championship he called the plays he was the ofc ithink in 86 or 87

I personally think BMR should call both the offense and the defense since it's his team. I just don't think this will happen because he doesn't want people to blame him if something goes wrong.

[mr.charlie hustle]

I personally think BMR should call both the offense and the defense since it's his team. I just don't think this will happen because he doesn't want people to blame him if something goes wrong.

Ya know coach BMR will get it all, "The Good,The Bad and The Ugly". It does not matter who calls what, the old buck stops with the Head Coach. That is just the nature of things.

[KENTUCKY10]

They should be much better this year.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

[quote=PaintsvilleTigerfan]From what I hear there will be white helmets next year. And I love chirico to death, as I have said on here before. But in 05 he did not in any way shape or form do the majority of the coaching.[/QUOTE]

You didn't even play in '05. Hence, you wouldn't know.

Chirico coached his DB's and was in the press box.

[TheBigLebowski]

[quote=Mr. Birnbaum]

Chirico coached his DB's and was in the press box.

He may have been in the box for a game or two, but the majority of the time he was on the sidelines calling the defense. You clearly didn't play because anyone who played for Joe Chirico would know how much this guy does in the duration of a season.

[dirtybird]

[quote=Mr. Birnbaum]

Chirico coached his DB's and was in the press box.

PTF, you acknowledge Chirico is a great coach and knows the game of football. However, you refuse to give him any credit for anything that happened on the field. In '05 the running game was Chuke Williams and the passing game was put in by Chirico and JTA. Chirico and JTA ran the defense. Don't be so naive!

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

Lol guys Jim Tom ran the defense. Once more Chirico did not run that D. Quite frankly The D in 05 really wasn't all that impressive. The offense is what won those games. That offense BTW was not put in by Chuke. Chuke was gonna run the wishbone with those boys, but instead when Runyon became HCIC they chose to instead mirror the approach of the 01 team. Which also happens to be the same basic scheme we have used every year since with the exception of Jim toms second year, and Kinner's first year. Chuke wouldn't have been caught dead running the spread with a backfield like that. You guys obviously don't remember too much about the 05 year.

With that being said Chirico did run the defense the next year in 06, which was a much more impressive unit as far as performance compared to talent. I will be very happy watching Chirico's D this next year. But you have to credit the very good staff we had in 05.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

[quote=PaintsvilleTigerfan]
He may have been in the box for a game or two, but the majority of the time he was on the sidelines calling the defense. You clearly didn't play because anyone who played for Joe Chirico would know how much this guy does in the duration of a season.

The defense was called by Jim tom that year with joe advising him on the calls.

[Pupaw]

I don't think PHS will be dominant or anything next season, but there will be an improvement from last year I believe. The main thing I foresee is they will play much harder than in the past couple of years. The 2012 Tigers won't beat most teams based on flat out talent, but I'm thinking playing under a new coach with a history of being a great motivator will give them the edge over teams they've struggled beating in the past few years.

[mr.charlie hustle]

Lol guys Jim Tom ran the defense. Once more Chirico did not run that D. Quite frankly The D in 05 really wasn't all that impressive. The offense is what won those games. That offense BTW was not put in by Chuke. Chuke was gonna run the wishbone with those boys, but instead when Runyon became HCIC they chose to instead mirror the approach of the 01 team. Which also happens to be the same basic scheme we have used every year since with the exception of Jim toms second year, and Kinner's first year. Chuke wouldn't have been caught dead running the spread with a backfield like that. You guys obviously don't remember too much about the 05 year.

With that being said Chirico did run the defense the next year in 06, which was a much more impressive unit as far as performance compared to talent. I will be very happy watching Chirico's D this next year. But you have to credit the very good staff we had in 05.

[I] believe that the record shows that defensively the Tigers were about 6th in the region at 249 gives in 05, The 06 team had 236 gives at maybe 3rd. The big difference in those two teams was the offense. 05 had 400 + takes and 06 had close to half that #

[WideRight05]

If I remember right, Paintsville used to win their rivalry game against Johnson Central pretty regularly. It would be nice to see them get back to being a contender in their division again. They can do it. Keep working hard guys, best of luck to you this year.

[gettheball]

Give the young Tigers two years and they will be where they need to be. Patience and good coaching will get this team back where there accustomed to being. JCHS does not have near the talent that Paintsville has in Middle school and that is probably why they decided not to play them in finals of Conference Championship. A much better football program is coming to Paintsville, however I do think they need to hire at least one more football guy to go with coach Runyon and Chirico.

[Hoot Gibson]

Give the young Tigers two years and they will be where they need to be. Patience and good coaching will get this team back where there accustomed to being. JCHS does not have near the talent that Paintsville has in Middle school and that is probably why they decided not to play them in finals of Conference Championship. A much better football program is coming to Paintsville, however I do think they need to hire at least one more football guy to go with coach Runyon and Chirico.

I thought JC skipped the conference championship for a crack at a state championship. I seriously doubt that Paintsville has more talent at the middle school level than Johnson County. If you think that simply hiring Bill Mike Runyon is going to make Paintsville competitive with Johnson Central again, then you should review the score of the only game that BMR coached against Jim Matney and you should also realize that most of Johnson Central's points were scored in the first half of that game.

Under Coach Runyon, Paintsville's football team will rapidly improve but there will be no resumption of the Apple Bowl as long as Johnson Central is well coached. Beginning with Bill Musick and continuing with Jim Matney, Johnson Central thoroughly dominated the Tigers in the Apple Bowl. Neither team would benefit from resuming the series.

The enrollment disadvantage that Paintsville faces is too big for any coach to overcome unless the Johnson County school board decides to begin playing musical chairs with the head football coach position again - and I just don't see that happening.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

I thought JC skipped the conference championship for a crack at a state championship. I seriously doubt that Paintsville has more talent at the middle school level than Johnson County. If you think that simply hiring Bill Mike Runyon is going to make Paintsville competitive with Johnson Central again, then you should review the score of the only game that BMR coached against Jim Matney and you should also realize that most of Johnson Central's points were scored in the first half of that game.

Under Coach Runyon, Paintsville's football team will rapidly improve but there will be no resumption of the Apple Bowl as long as Johnson Central is well coached. Beginning with Bill Musick and continuing with Jim Matney, Johnson Central thoroughly dominated the Tigers in the Apple Bowl. Neither team would benefit from resuming the series.

The enrollment disadvantage that Paintsville faces is too big for any coach to overcome unless the Johnson County school board decides to begin playing musical chairs with the head football coach position again - and I just don't see that happening.

The halftime score in 05 was 20-6 bro. That was the one time that central really did run it up on us.

[Bob Seger]

The halftime score in 05 was 20-6 bro. That was the one time that central really did run it up on us.

Ah the memories... Since you are getting all nostalgic here, and want to do a little trash talking, wasn't that the year that the Paintsville coach got a little uhhhh....we'll be nice and just call it happy....and attempted to pull off that failed and infamous pregame "meet me in a dark alley" intimidation tactic at the JC coach and ended up getting his bluff called?nicker:

He could have made it 75-0 if he had wanted to, and he probably should have for him trying that stunt. The JC coach was by far a stand up guy in that game. It really could have been very nasty. It's a long ago and forgotten incident and just really doesn't amount to a hill of beans, but you need to learn to remember little things like that when post little things like that.

Paintsville and Johnson Central have no business now playing each other. Neither team gains anything from it. You can speculate an outcome all you want, but in reality the end result would end up being the same year in and year out.

[mr.charlie hustle]

Ah the memories... Since you are getting all nostalgic here, and want to do a little trash talking, wasn't that the year that the Paintsville coach got a little uhhhh....we'll be nice and just call it happy....and attempted to pull off that failed and infamous pregame "meet me in a dark alley" intimidation tactic at the JC coach and ended up getting his bluff called?nicker:

He could have made it 75-0 if he had wanted to, and he probably should have for him trying that stunt. The JC coach was by far a stand up guy in that game. It really could have been very nasty. It's a long ago and forgotten incident and just really doesn't amount to a hill of beans, but you need to learn to remember little things like that when post little things like that.

Paintsville and Johnson Central have no business now playing each other. Neither team gains anything from it. You can speculate an outcome all you want, but in reality the end result would end up being the same year in and year out.

I agree with you Bob ,there is absolutely nothing to be gained by a renewal of the series. As Hoot said earlier (I think) The Paintsville football program needs to concentrate on the task at hand. This being an upgrade of the program in Class A. I think Coach Runyon and his staff will be effective in this process and of cource best wishes in this process. My wish for the new year would be for the Tigers to once again become competitive. As to the Eagles I hope they continue to raise the bar to get the Big one. They should have their sites set on a championship win. That is my New Year's wish for them.

[Bob Seger]

I agree with you Bob ,there is absolutely nothing to be gained by a renewal of the series. As Hoot said earlier (I think) The Paintsville football program needs to concentrate on the task at hand. This being an upgrade of the program in Class A. I think Coach Runyon and his staff will be effective in this process and of cource best wishes in this process. My wish for the new year would be for the Tigers to once again become competitive. As to the Eagles I hope they continue to raise the bar to get the Big one. They should have their sites set on a championship win. That is my New Year's wish for them.

I agree Charlie. I think things will be better for the Tigers.

[TheBigLebowski]

Lol guys Jim Tom ran the defense. Once more Chirico did not run that D. Quite frankly The D in 05 really wasn't all that impressive. The offense is what won those games. That offense BTW was not put in by Chuke. Chuke was gonna run the wishbone with those boys, but instead when Runyon became HCIC they chose to instead mirror the approach of the 01 team. Which also happens to be the same basic scheme we have used every year since with the exception of Jim toms second year, and Kinner's first year. Chuke wouldn't have been caught dead running the spread with a backfield like that. You guys obviously don't remember too much about the 05 year.

With that being said Chirico did run the defense the next year in 06, which was a much more impressive unit as far as performance compared to talent. I will be very happy watching Chirico's D this next year. But you have to credit the very good staff we had in 05.

After this post it's clear you know nothing about the game of football or what went on at Paintsville. If you've played a down of football EVER I will be very surprised. The running game was a veer scheme offense which was put in by Williams the previous year and during the offseason. Ruyon just made Jimmy run it from the I-formation so it wouldn't look like Chuke's offense. Runyon didn't and still doesn't know how to run the veer. The shotgun was added when Runyon came to take advantage of the Tigers athletic ability. To say the 2005 defense wasn't impressive simply makes you look dumb. The 2005 D was easily better than the 2006 team. The '05 defense lost everyone but Pugh, Cantrel, and Sublett. I know for a fact you weren't on the '05 team and you wouldn't know how any of this played out. Maybe if you had spent a little less time spelling out T-I-G-E-R-S from the pep section you would know a little more about Paintsville Tiger football. Ignorant.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

After this post it's clear you know nothing about the game of football or what went on at Paintsville. If you've played a down of football EVER I will be very surprised. The running game was a veer scheme offense which was put in by Williams the previous year and during the offseason. Ruyon just made Jimmy run it from the I-formation so it wouldn't look like Chuke's offense. Runyon didn't and still doesn't know how to run the veer. The shotgun was added when Runyon came to take advantage of the Tigers athletic ability. To say the 2005 defense wasn't impressive simply makes you look dumb. The 2005 D was easily better than the 2006 team. The '05 defense lost everyone but Pugh, Cantrel, and Sublett. I know for a fact you weren't on the '05 team and you wouldn't know how any of this played out. Maybe if you had spent a little less time spelling out T-I-G-E-R-S from the pep section you would know a little more about Paintsville Tiger football. Ignorant.

And you completely proved my point in that one sentence. The 06 team was very impressive defensively considering all that was lost from the previous year. For the third time in this thread I am saying that I like Chirico and he is a great coach but you have to give the rest of the staff credit. The way you say it played out all that was needed was chirico to call the D, and Jimmy to call the offense. I guess Jim Tom, and company were just there for looks.

But quite frankly we are fans of the same team from what I gather, and we are wanting the same thing so instead of arguing over stupid shit just chill out and be supportive.

[PaintsvilleTigerfan]

Ah the memories... Since you are getting all nostalgic here, and want to do a little trash talking, wasn't that the year that the Paintsville coach got a little uhhhh....we'll be nice and just call it happy....and attempted to pull off that failed and infamous pregame "meet me in a dark alley" intimidation tactic at the JC coach and ended up getting his bluff called?nicker:

He could have made it 75-0 if he had wanted to, and he probably should have for him trying that stunt. The JC coach was by far a stand up guy in that game. It really could have been very nasty. It's a long ago and forgotten incident and just really doesn't amount to a hill of beans, but you need to learn to remember little things like that when post little things like that.

Paintsville and Johnson Central have no business now playing each other. Neither team gains anything from it. You can speculate an outcome all you want, but in reality the end result would end up being the same year in and year out.

Dude 20-6 at half isn't exactly a barnburner, I was just pointing out that it was as close as we have came to competing with central since matney came. I have never once said that paintsville will ever be able to compete with central in football again. I would love to see it but it won't happen.

[Pupaw]

The Paintsville/JC game was great during the "golden days". But Paintsville has no business even considering stepping on the same field as them anytime soon. I'm sure IF, and that's a BIG if, PHS starts improving and becomes competitive in 1A you will hear a huge wave of "We can take them on. They're not that good. We can play with them." just as there always was when I was coming up through the ranks, but in all reality there is no shot of them ever competing with, and definitely not beating, Johnson Central ever again as long as Jim Matney is there. The man can flat out coach. No other way around it. He has an outstanding coaching staff, a great scheme, the facilities, and most important of all he has a group of young men that would run through a brick wall for him if it meant they wouldn't let the man down. Until Paintsville starts getting serious commitment from players and improvement from top to bottom, they will continue to be a doormat for teams in their district, and will without a doubt have no business playing against a 4A title contender. They need to worry about the task at hand, and that's making this team competitive again in 1A football. And that will prove to be a very difficult task I feel like. I'm not doubting the ability of the coaching staff at all because I like them all personally and I hope they do a great job, but you've got some kids on this team that have no idea what a winning season feels like. Losing so much for consecutive years makes some high school athletes sick to their stomach and want to do whatever it takes to change it, and then there's others that start to get the "Well we tried hard." attitude. Which I feel like has been the general attitude in the past few years. Again I'm generally speaking as an overall team attitude. That will be the biggest influence that Runyon will have on this upcoming bunch for the rest of his tenure, is that they will learn that having a running clock in half of your games is not acceptable, losing your last 8 games is not acceptable, and being ranked as the worst football team in 1A isn't gonna cut it either.

[TigerBlues]

The Paintsville/JC game was great during the "golden days". But Paintsville has no business even considering stepping on the same field as them anytime soon. I'm sure IF, and that's a BIG if, PHS starts improving and becomes competitive in 1A you will hear a huge wave of "We can take them on. They're not that good. We can play with them." just as there always was when I was coming up through the ranks, but in all reality there is no shot of them ever competing with, and definitely not beating, Johnson Central ever again as long as Jim Matney is there. The man can flat out coach. No other way around it. He has an outstanding coaching staff, a great scheme, the facilities, and most important of all he has a group of young men that would run through a brick wall for him if it meant they wouldn't let the man down. Until Paintsville starts getting serious commitment from players and improvement from top to bottom, they will continue to be a doormat for teams in their district, and will without a doubt have no business playing against a 4A title contender. They need to worry about the task at hand, and that's making this team competitive again in 1A football. And that will prove to be a very difficult task I feel like. I'm not doubting the ability of the coaching staff at all because I like them all personally and I hope they do a great job, but you've got some kids on this team that have no idea what a winning season feels like. Losing so much for consecutive years makes some high school athletes sick to their stomach and want to do whatever it takes to change it, and then there's others that start to get the "Well we tried hard." attitude. Which I feel like has been the general attitude in the past few years. Again I'm generally speaking as an overall team attitude. That will be the biggest influence that Runyon will have on this upcoming bunch for the rest of his tenure, is that they will learn that having a running clock in half of your games is not acceptable, losing your last 8 games is not acceptable, and being ranked as the worst football team in 1A isn't gonna cut it either.

I agree with you Pupaw, it all comes down to the roster numbers in the end. Take hoops and hardball as an example, the Tigers rountinely either win or compete without embarrassment in these sports. Before the upgrade of the facilities and the spin marketing of world academic champions, it was and still is an expectation of many in the area for the Tigers to win. But your right about the football deal, only way the Tigers could compete would to have a 60 man roster. I don't think they have sixty boys in the school though.