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Highlands caught a break
#1
I find it very funny that the year that Bowling Green fields a great team it turns out that Highlands gets moved to 4A. It worked out well that Highlands was able to become the smallest 4A team and not have to play in 5A this year. You don't think the KHSAA was influenced in this matter do you? Or was it just good timing? How would it have looked if BG gets the title and Trinity pulls ahead 21-20 in the title race. I'm really surprised that the folks at Trinity haven't called this out.

Any thoughts?
#2
"Great?" Bowling team with a GREAT team?

They just won 5A because Highlands wasn't there. If we're in 5A, BG will be laying down, bending over and taking that 42-14 lashing in the state title game.
#3
So now we get trolling AGAINST Highlands....
#4
Not so much against Highlands. Obviously they are a great team with rich tradition and can field a team each year. I am not a BG supporter either but I did see 3 games this year and in those games they played good competion and still had some left in the tank when the game was over. Most likely Franklin Simpson wouldn't have scored against BG this year and The Purples would have scored 50+.

The team that beat FS 42-14 would not have beaten Bowling Green this year. It worked out well for them to get moved into 4A. Highlands fans can say what they want, they still should count themselves fortunate that they didn't have to face BG this year.

I guess its trolling, I'm on here all the time just don't post much. All you guys want to do is talk about how great the East is so I leave it to the experts, until its time to call B.S.
#5
And I can't even create a thread about who the easiest teams in the state are!
#6
It is a honest question. Did Highlands catch a break by moving to 4A this year? I think they did. What game can you point to that would show that they are better than last year and would have beaten BG? BG ran the table on a pretty tough schedule this year and would have sent the Birds home disappointed this year.
Timing is everything.
#7
fanof87 Wrote:It is a honest question. Did Highlands catch a break by moving to 4A this year? I think they did. What game can you point to that would show that they are better than last year and would have beaten BG? BG ran the table on a pretty tough schedule this year and would have sent the Birds home disappointed this year.
Timing is everything.

No...BG did!
#8
fanof87 Wrote:Not so much against Highlands. Obviously they are a great team with rich tradition and can field a team each year. I am not a BG supporter either but I did see 3 games this year and in those games they played good competion and still had some left in the tank when the game was over. Most likely Franklin Simpson wouldn't have scored against BG this year and The Purples would have scored 50+.

The team that beat FS 42-14 would not have beaten Bowling Green this year. It worked out well for them to get moved into 4A. Highlands fans can say what they want, they still should count themselves fortunate that they didn't have to face BG this year.

I guess its trolling, I'm on here all the time just don't post much. All you guys want to do is talk about how great the East is so I leave it to the experts, until its time to call B.S.

Trolling and baiting.
#9
[quote=fanof87]I find it very funny that the year that Bowling Green fields a great team it turns out that Highlands gets moved to 4A. It worked out well that Highlands was able to become the smallest 4A team and not have to play in 5A this year. You don't think the KHSAA was influenced in this matter do you? Or was it just good timing? How would it have looked if BG gets the title and Trinity pulls ahead 21-20 in the title race. I'm really surprised that the folks at Trinity haven't called this out.

Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]

So, why do you find it funny that BG fields a great team? They have done it a time or two before? Odd that you would find it funny. Thought you might choose a better sentiment to express.

Are you claiming a conspiracy theory in the way the classes were determined?

:popcorn:
#10
This is funny stuff, this thread.
#11
Yeah it worked out great that Highlands had 3A enrollment and murdered all of 5A for 4 years.
#12
Belfry0304 Wrote:Yeah it worked out great that Highlands had 3A enrollment and murdered all of 5A for 4 years.

You forgot to add that only one of Highlands' wins for a 5A State Championship was against the great BG. The other 3 years, they let others play for the title.

But, no reason to let any history or logic creep into a silly thread!Confusedhh:
#13
I will try to ask the same question I have asked in numerous other threads in a different fashion, hoping to get a logical answer.

Team A-2010 loses to Team B-2010 by 2 points

Team C-2010 defeats Team B-2010 by 50 points

Team C-2010 = Team C-2011 (give or take 5%)

Team A-2010 + X = Team A-2011

What kind of improvement (X) would it take for Team A-2011 to defeat Team C-2011...by ANY amount?
#14
I think both teams caught a break that they didn't have a huge increase in enrollment 3 years ago that kept them out of 6A and Trinity.
#15
^ I would be honored to be in 6A with trinity!
#16
WideRight05 Wrote:^ I would be honored to be in 6A with trinity!

I know Highlands would, but that would've been an ugly final
#17
We wouldve done a lot better than you would think.
#18
I was thinking 63 to 14 Trinity. I saw the scrimmage, then saw Trinity play a healthy, suspension free Elder team and beat the crap out of them. As much as I like Towles and Highlands, I don't see the miracle coming close to happening.
#19
You can't tell anything from scrimmages. Yeah trinity looked better but both teams were more focused on seeing what works than trying to beat each other. We didn't have towles for elder. We did, but he got hurt. I think trinity is more talented, but with Dale muellers gameplanning and our players drive, we might get a little luck on our side and pull the upset.
#20
Blau Vogel Wrote:I will try to ask the same question I have asked in numerous other threads in a different fashion, hoping to get a logical answer.
Team A-2010 loses to Team B-2010 by 2 points

Team C-2010 defeats Team B-2010 by 50 points

Team C-2010 = Team C-2011 (give or take 5%)

Team A-2010 + X = Team A-2011

What kind of improvement (X) would it take for Team A-2011 to defeat Team C-2011...by ANY amount?

Love your post and follow you , but do not expect many to have an answer for you. Have you have seen math scores on state testing in KY? People have no idea what you are talking about.Big Grin:blondetea
#21
WideRight05 Wrote:You can't tell anything from scrimmages. Yeah trinity looked better but both teams were more focused on seeing what works than trying to beat each other. We didn't have towles for elder. We did, but he got hurt. I think trinity is more talented, but with Dale muellers gameplanning and our players drive, we might get a little luck on our side and pull the upset.

I can tell a lot from scrimmages, and I also know that Trinity would have also gameplanned and prepared well for the game. And looking at Trinity play several times, the players were driven and focused every game, so it's not like Highlands would've played against a team that wasn't prepared and driven.
#22
BG is the one that caught the break. 4A was better that 5A this year.
#23
Blau Vogel Wrote:I will try to ask the same question I have asked in numerous other threads in a different fashion, hoping to get a logical answer.

Team A-2010 loses to Team B-2010 by 2 points

Team C-2010 defeats Team B-2010 by 50 points

Team C-2010 = Team C-2011 (give or take 5%)

Team A-2010 + X = Team A-2011

What kind of improvement (X) would it take for Team A-2011 to defeat Team C-2011...by ANY amount?

52 points a.k.a. 7 TDs, 7 xps, and a field goal

not being a smarta$$, just got interested in your equation

By the way, Highlands beats Bowling Green like they did in 07
#24
toussaints Wrote:I know Highlands would, but that would've been an ugly final

Highlands would've played them way closer than Scott Co.
I would have to take Trinity by 17 if I was going to bet real money.
Highlands could pull it off though, 3 or 4 things would have bounce our way but...crazier things have happened.

Highlands would beat BG by 10. but BG could make it happen if they kept PT off the field.
#25
Neither caught a break and the fans also lost out on what could have been one of the best finals in recent years. I assure you Highlands would have welcomed the challenge.

I don't think Highlands comes within 4 TDs of Trinity. Trinity is/was that good. A few of the Highlands fans need to get real. :please:
#26
Blau Vogel Wrote:I will try to ask the same question I have asked in numerous other threads in a different fashion, hoping to get a logical answer.

Team A-2010 loses to Team B-2010 by 2 points

Team C-2010 defeats Team B-2010 by 50 points

Team C-2010 = Team C-2011 (give or take 5%)

Team A-2010 + X = Team A-2011

What kind of improvement (X) would it take for Team A-2011 to defeat Team C-2011...by ANY amount?


Team A - 2009 defeats Team B - 2009 by 42 points while giving up only 7 to Team B

Team C - 2009 defeats Team B - 2009 by 21 points while giving up 21 points to Team B

Wouldn't it be logical that Team A was better than Team C or at least as good?


Not sure comparative logic is without flaws when it comes to football.
#27
Hatz Wrote:Team A - 2009 defeats Team B - 2009 by 42 points while giving up only 7 to Team B

Team C - 2009 defeats Team B - 2009 by 21 points while giving up 21 points to Team B

Wouldn't it be logical that Team A was better than Team C or at least as good?


Not sure comparative logic is without flaws when it comes to football.

Nope...Going back TWO years does not explain a 50+ point turn around in ONE year.

I still haven't been convinced that BG or Highlands would be a big winner in a match-up of 2011 teams...I just don't believe BG could have improved SO much in one year to think they would be sure winners or even a favorite.
#28
BG wouldnt beat Highlands this year, imo. However, Highlands wouldnt beat Trinity either. Highlands couldnt have ran the table with Trinity's schedule. Highlands can always compete with a Cincinnati GCL team every year, but not week in and week out. Trinity this year wouldve beaten everyone in the GCL, or anyone in OH week after week. That is the big difference. Highlands has great coaches and very disciplined players, but playing teams in the GCL or Trinity week after week would be a disaster. They dont have 100 players like Trinity to choose from
#29
Blau Vogel Wrote:Nope...Going back TWO years does not explain a 50+ point turn around in ONE year.

I still haven't been convinced that BG or Highlands would be a big winner in a match-up of 2011 teams...I just don't believe BG could have improved SO much in one year to think they would be sure winners or even a favorite.

Actually Blau, I wasn't talking Bowling Green and HHS. I was looking at two teams from 2009 and using your own logic formula to point out if this is the way it is, then this same logical formula has to have merit in other comparisons as well. (Not just the ones we find convenient)
:Thumbs:
#30
Blau Vogel Wrote:Nope...Going back TWO years does not explain a 50+ point turn around in ONE year.

I still haven't been convinced that BG or Highlands would be a big winner in a match-up of 2011 teams...I just don't believe BG could have improved SO much in one year to think they would be sure winners or even a favorite.


So what you are saying is that one team can't get better, that much in one year?

Scenario. You apply it how you choose.

1977: Harrodsburg beats Boyle County 60-0.
1978 Boyle County beats Harrodsburg 17-0.

Can Boyle improve by 77 points in one season?

Before you ask: Harrodsburg lost Nicky Yeast from the '77 team (Future EKU player) but returned Gus Parks (Likewise future EKU starter).

People improve or new players tip the scales of balance. Who knows. I'd give an edge to HHS but who can see with any real certainty. The logical equation you bring is flawed to be effectively accurate.

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