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12-11-2011, 02:33 PM
LOL This is stupid i think, i know that the coaches have a right to dismiss any player they want for what ever reason they want an all considering playing the game is a privilege. But i mean seriously? come on man its a little to much don't you think? lol give the kid a break. Its just Facebook, is he not allowed to think? or express how he feels?
12-12-2011, 04:01 PM
Paintsville is 0-3 on the year, should be 3-0 and Ratliff gets rid of one of his players for expressing himself on Face Book. Come on now. I think what Ratliff should do is reflect a little on what's been going on with the coaches the last couple years and try and save his job. The Baseball and Football coaches were fired for not winning and not being able to keep some self control. If the loosing keeps up you might just find another coach sitting in the first chair next season.
12-12-2011, 06:16 PM
I may be in the minority on this but, things like like that are a cancer to the team. Openly posting on social networks that you would rather play a guitar and hang with friends insted of working hard at the position to get better and make others around you better sends a message that your heart is not into it and the team. The confidence level of his coaches would diminish greatly not to mention his teammates. That's is just my opinion and if it were me as the coach he would have been a spot player the rest of the year unless he went full out in practice to show he wanted to be a part of the team. I think alot of it was more about the middle school players were being called on to play in critical situations. Again just an opinion.
12-12-2011, 11:26 PM
Blackwater Wrote:People need to do a little case research on freedom of speech. The term, freedom of speech, is used a little on the loose end sometimes for people that want to express views that undermine ones authority or the common good of a group or organization.
you need to do a little more research, its to protect ones point of veiw or way of expressing it. to be able to speak ones mind so to say. matt doesnt need to make up rules as he goes. last years TEAM rules that were broken was also school policy as well (5 days iss). now fb status of a HIGHSCHOOL kid just got under matts skin. imo the ex-player showed more maturity than the coach did. instead of dismissing him from the team, why not find out whats bothering him. your supposed to be mentoring the players. helping them grow into adults. all matt showed was how to make a bad situation worse. lets hear of any other infractions the kid has had on the team? are there any?
12-12-2011, 11:34 PM
TigerBlues Wrote:I may be in the minority on this but, things like like that are a cancer to the team. Openly posting on social networks that you would rather play a guitar and hang with friends insted of working hard at the position to get better and make others around you better sends a message that your heart is not into it and the team. The confidence level of his coaches would diminish greatly not to mention his teammates. That's is just my opinion and if it were me as the coach he would have been a spot player the rest of the year unless he went full out in practice to show he wanted to be a part of the team. I think alot of it was more about the middle school players were being called on to play in critical situations. Again just an opinion.
again his facebook was set to private. so the coaches would not have known unless someone snitched. maybe he was needing a pat on the back from his teammates ,thats what the their for..to pick each other up. i dont believe for one minute that any player on that team was dishearted about his post on fb. yes it was probally was just venting but he is in HIGHSCHOOL.
12-13-2011, 12:21 AM
If JD, Landon, or Grimmy wrote the exact same thing would they have been treated the same? No, I think that is what's wrong with the situation.
12-13-2011, 03:42 AM
If JD, or them had written it coach runyon would have punished the whole team for it.
12-13-2011, 07:39 AM
TheBigLebowski Wrote:If JD, Landon, or Grimmy wrote the exact same thing would they have been treated the same? No, I think that is what's wrong with the situation.
If?... That is the key word. I don't believe that any of those former Tigers would have ever posted a statement like that on a silly social networking page. IMO this whole thing was just a part of what was the problem with the dismissed player. It is evident that these postings were indicative of an overall poor attitude and detiorating relationship with the coach, teammates and the entire concept of team sports. I wish the kid well, but it seems this situation is better for all involved moving forward.
12-13-2011, 10:25 AM
Isn't the kid back on the team?
12-13-2011, 11:30 AM
ForearmShiver Wrote:If?... That is the key word. I don't believe that any of those former Tigers would have ever posted a statement like that on a silly social networking page. IMO this whole thing was just a part of what was the problem with the dismissed player. It is evident that these postings were indicative of an overall poor attitude and detiorating relationship with the coach, teammates and the entire concept of team sports. I wish the kid well, but it seems this situation is better for all involved moving forward.
for who? name who its better for, name one player on that team that thinks its better. show me facts...not imo...all of the players i have spoke to have said they thought it was a wrong call by coach. none will voice it now because apparently your supposed to keep your feelings bottled up inside.
12-13-2011, 11:36 AM
TheBigLebowski Wrote:If JD, Landon, or Grimmy wrote the exact same thing would they have been treated the same? No, I think that is what's wrong with the situation.
i agree....look at last years players. justify that one coach.. anybody? anybody?
12-13-2011, 11:55 AM
ForearmShiver Wrote:If?... That is the key word. I don't believe that any of those former Tigers would have ever posted a statement like that on a silly social networking page. IMO this whole thing was just a part of what was the problem with the dismissed player. It is evident that these postings were indicative of an overall poor attitude and detiorating relationship with the coach, teammates and the entire concept of team sports. I wish the kid well, but it seems this situation is better for all involved moving forward.Obviously "if" was the key word with my whole post because they don't play anymore and it isn't relevant unless we use the word "if." You didn't grasp where I was going with that one.
12-13-2011, 04:37 PM
TheRealVille Wrote:Isn't the kid back on the team?
Im not sure.
12-14-2011, 02:34 AM
I don't think he could come back after what has happened
12-14-2011, 07:47 AM
redhead snitch Wrote:for who? name who its better for, name one player on that team that thinks its better. show me facts...not imo...all of the players i have spoke to have said they thought it was a wrong call by coach. none will voice it now because apparently your supposed to keep your feelings bottled up inside.
Things are better for the TEAM. That is the whole point here. Coaches have to make unpopular decisions, and open themselves up to a lot of harsh critcism to make changes they believe will improve their teams. In this case, a kid that apparently did not want to exist harmoniously within the team structure was excused. Sometimes these decisions turn out to explode in coaches' faces. But, whatever was done was done with the concept of TEAM as its basis. It is easy for us to observe and criticize these tough decisions, but it is not so easy for a coach to make the decisions and deal with the repercussions. I can honestly state that I support the coach, the player, and most definitely the team, because I believe that all of them are better off with this disruptive situation behind them.
12-14-2011, 10:08 AM
redhead snitch Wrote:i agree....look at last years players. justify that one coach.. anybody? anybody?
come on there has to be atleast one person...justify last years infractions...pretty please....

12-14-2011, 05:40 PM
Last years infractions weren't disruptive to the team. These were. This completely underminded the coach and disrespected the other players. It was like saying I would rather play guitar than be your teammates. Ohh wait that is exactly what was said. And Redhead Snitch I know exactly what You username refers to and it wasn't just that one person.
12-14-2011, 09:14 PM
Sometimes teenagers just make mistakes. It happens. People ask for justification or explanations, sometimes there just aren't any that we can find acceptable. I as a parent am keenly aware of my childs mistakes and also his accomplishments. My prayer is that his accomplishments will well out weigh his mistakes, and that he will learn from his mistakes. I hope as an adult and a parent I can see beyond childhood errors in judgement and help my child grow into a productive happy adult. Certainly negative press and the constant rehashing of a childs errors are good for noone. Seth is a good kid, I have no opinion on his supposed infraction. Hopefully if he truly did wrong he will learn from this, and if he has been wronged he will learn from that as well. Life is hard, we all know that. But, hiding behind screen names and pulling others into ones issues is just not a good thing.
12-14-2011, 09:51 PM
Lisa Caldwell Wrote:Sometimes teenagers just make mistakes. It happens. People ask for justification or explanations, sometimes there just aren't any that we can find acceptable. I as a parent am keenly aware of my childs mistakes and also his accomplishments. My prayer is that his accomplishments will well out weigh his mistakes, and that he will learn from his mistakes. I hope as an adult and a parent I can see beyond childhood errors in judgement and help my child grow into a productive happy adult. Certainly negative press and the constant rehashing of a childs errors are good for noone. Seth is a good kid, I have no opinion on his supposed infraction. Hopefully if he truly did wrong he will learn from this, and if he has been wronged he will learn from that as well. Life is hard, we all know that. But, hiding behind screen names and pulling others into ones issues is just not a good thing.I think that all parents should pray a prayer that you relate in your post. Parents can only do the best that they can and pray that the best will come for their children. Although children make mistakes , the adult world makes many more. When there is a lack of equality in the adult decision process it is quickly recognized and admonished by the gazing eye of society.
12-15-2011, 09:15 AM
Lisa Caldwell Wrote:Sometimes teenagers just make mistakes. It happens. People ask for justification or explanations, sometimes there just aren't any that we can find acceptable. I as a parent am keenly aware of my childs mistakes and also his accomplishments. My prayer is that his accomplishments will well out weigh his mistakes, and that he will learn from his mistakes. I hope as an adult and a parent I can see beyond childhood errors in judgement and help my child grow into a productive happy adult. Certainly negative press and the constant rehashing of a childs errors are good for noone. Seth is a good kid, I have no opinion on his supposed infraction. Hopefully if he truly did wrong he will learn from this, and if he has been wronged he will learn from that as well. Life is hard, we all know that. But, hiding behind screen names and pulling others into ones issues is just not a good thing.
Very nice post Lisa. With everything out there in the world for a child to get into nowadays, it's amazing that most of them turn out as good as they do. It's a challenging world for a teen ager in this day and time and one that I dont envy them having to experience.
12-15-2011, 11:15 AM
I just have one question. Is the school gonna get rid of Matt after this season? He's had more time than Jason did with the football team, and Paintsville basketball has pretty much became a program that teams wanna schedule for their Senior night game to get an easy W. They got rid of Jason because we weren't winning, so what's the difference here. Nothing against Matt, he was an assistant when I played, I loved him. This is a legit question and argument.
Notre Dame Football…GO IRISH
12-15-2011, 12:40 PM
Redneck Wrote:I just have one question. Is the school gonna get rid of Matt after this season? He's had more time than Jason did with the football team, and Paintsville basketball has pretty much became a program that teams wanna schedule for their Senior night game to get an easy W. They got rid of Jason because we weren't winning, so what's the difference here. Nothing against Matt, he was an assistant when I played, I loved him. This is a legit question and argument.Would have to disagree in comparing the two programs from your post.
Paintsville Basketball is still competitive within their district & the Football program currently not. Coach Ratliff will have this team ready when Tourney Time gets here
which in basketball is really the only season that counts.
12-15-2011, 08:15 PM
The basketball team has lost to three good teams. Phelps beat valley, P-Burg beat east ridge, and Magoffin beat Johnson Central. In other words when the time coes Paintsville will be right there with the best in the region.
12-15-2011, 08:35 PM
doubledown Wrote:Would have to disagree in comparing the two programs from your post.
Paintsville Basketball is still competitive within their district & the Football program currently not. Coach Ratliff will have this team ready when Tourney Time gets here
which in basketball is really the only season that counts.
2008/09: 7-19
2009/10: 7-20
2010/11: 12-14
No winning seasons and haven't been to the Region tourney since the 07/08 season when Coach Runyon was still the head man.
Notre Dame Football…GO IRISH
12-16-2011, 12:20 AM
TheRealVille Wrote:Isn't the kid back on the team?
If he was number 34, i am pretty sure he was on the team and played tonight... i could be wrong though as I have know idea who the kid is.
12-16-2011, 12:34 AM
LCDawg Wrote:If he was number 34, i am pretty sure he was on the team and played tonight... i could be wrong though as I have know idea who the kid is.
I would have never dreamed he would have been allowed to get back on the team. How did he play? Points , rebounds? and turnovers of course.
12-16-2011, 12:45 AM
TigerBlues Wrote:I would have never dreamed he would have been allowed to get back on the team. How did he play? Points , rebounds? and turnovers of course.
I have know idea if this was even the kid, I was just looking at the Roster and the only Daniels kid I saw that was a SR was #34. He played fine, but I can't say that I kept track of him and too be honest didn't even know he was "this" kid until I read this thread tonight.
12-16-2011, 07:25 AM
Number 34 currently playing for PHS' varsity squad is Kash Daniel, an eigth grader, and yes indeed he played one Helluva game last night. He is going to be a force once he's had more and more playing time on the varsity level. Two other eigth graders play in the varsity rotations. Along with the solid freshman class they have, the future of PHS hoops looks very promising. Go blue!!!
12-16-2011, 09:53 AM
ForearmShiver Wrote:Number 34 currently playing for PHS' varsity squad is Kash Daniel, an eigth grader, and yes indeed he played one Helluva game last night. He is going to be a force once he's had more and more playing time on the varsity level. Two other eigth graders play in the varsity rotations. Along with the solid freshman class they have, the future of PHS hoops looks very promising. Go blue!!!"and the Football Field and Diamond as well".:Thumbs:
12-16-2011, 01:46 PM
#34 is Kash Daniel an 8th grader and yes his future is bright. HARD worker!
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